A friend posted to Facebook that they didn’t want anyone to post anything about Ukraine unless it was verified. I asked “verified by who?” Now they have blocked me. 🤦‍♂️

@jjroseknows777

2 жыл бұрын

WOW! SO chilling.

@wirefortyseven8707

2 жыл бұрын

"friend"

@jjroseknows777

2 жыл бұрын

Wait! Facebook blocked you?!

@lowriderbug

2 жыл бұрын

@@wirefortyseven8707 yeah a guy I went to college with who I regularly meet up with. So I consider us friends but I guess that's over 🙄

@cathyburkart9395

2 жыл бұрын

Verity is a present day joke...

These last 2 years have shown me that we cannot trust no World Leaders or Politicians

@tharanit4856

2 жыл бұрын

Very True.. There are very few .. handful of Politicians are trustworthy.. They openly speak up the truth. Aussie Sen. Malcom Roberts kzread.info

@gardeniainbloom812

2 жыл бұрын

The alternative?

@emorkTLK

2 жыл бұрын

Very funny. So anachism for the better?

@mottgirl13

2 жыл бұрын

Truth. No politicians are trustworthy. New York Nadia addresses it. I personally have seen it myself. Early on, and this is includes self professing Christians. All must be held accountable.

@terraflow__bryanburdo4547

2 жыл бұрын

The one person who I would trust at the helm right now is Ron DeSantis. Trump was excellent before with Putin, but now is not the time for a divisive hothead.

"I'm not interested in what Russia wants, I'm not interested in what provokes Russia" - he sums up the Western attitude that has led to this conflict. In other words Russian security concerns don't really matter ...

@wyqtor

2 жыл бұрын

Democratic and prosperous countries, especially ones with lots of Russian speakers, are what threatens the Putin regime. You can even see this with Armenia, as he basically stepped in at the last possible moment to stop Azerbaijan from fully conquering Nagorno-Karabakh, as punishment for Armenia removing its oligarchs from power and electing an honest reformist.

@agep.5853

2 жыл бұрын

Not just a Western attitude. Most Eastern European countries actively sought NATO membership for a reason. They don't want to be a bitch of Soviet Union 2.0.

@hatidjesabri7326

2 жыл бұрын

spot on!

@cosmopolitanbay9508

2 жыл бұрын

@@agep.5853 Some with very strong anit-Russian sentiment, esp Poland and Hungary, but others were blacklmailed into it, as NATO membership was a prerequisite to EU membership.

@notreallydavid

2 жыл бұрын

@@agep.5853 As I recall, they couldn't get their applications in fast enough. They knew the.propensity of the USSR and Russia to muscle in on its neighbours. 'Nato expansion made me do it' is the new 'She shouldn't have been wearing a short skirt'. NATO never massed colossal, overwhelming quantities of armour and artillery on Russia's borders, like the USSR did on Western Europe's.

“I’m not interested in what provoked Russia. I’m interested in the West . . . being the dominant power in the world.” Kisin, I’m starting to worry about you! You cannot maintain the power of the West without paying very close attention to Russian provocation. You need a lesson in 19th Century “balance of powers.”

@KimKoomKum

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@BestResuMS

2 жыл бұрын

"Russian provocation"??? Russia has not moved westward, institutionally occupying Warsaw pact nations. But NATO has moved dramatically eastward, occupying and/or taking into membership all Warsaw pact nations except Belarus. It has sponsored regime change coups in Georgia and Ukraine, and then demonized Russia's defense of those takeovers.

@09bamasky

2 жыл бұрын

@@BestResuMSI’m sympathetic to Russia in the sense that NATO has certainly provoked it by becoming enmeshed in some of the politics of these countries. Kisin was literally saying that he wants the West (e.g. NATO) to maintain its dominance in the world. Well, that isn’t going to happen without paying attention to whatever Russia does to provoke the West.

@thenonexistinghero

2 жыл бұрын

@@09bamasky I don't think the west needs to dominate the world. It would be terrible. We need variety, different systems, different values, etc. Otherwise everyone will point their noses into the wrong direction with no way to change it since everyone is too high from their own values to actually think about what's right or wrong. Besides that, the noses in the west are definitely in the wrong direction. And no, not the opposite kind of wrong from Russia and China. But exactly the same direction. Different area, different values... Same exact system and a government that dictates all and can do no wrong.

You asked, “Has the media got The Ukraine wrong?” The answer is wrapped in bigger questions like: when was the last time the media got something right? Does the media actually seek to report facts anymore(if it ever did)? And who is this media person anyway.

@lesliesolwayboyd689

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@prp584

2 жыл бұрын

bingo

@GeorgeFafa

2 жыл бұрын

Bullseye

@mypronounismaster4450

2 жыл бұрын

It's like everyone has been laughing at CNN and MSNBC for a few years, but overnight everyone is agreeing with them on Ukraine. The same people that made fun of orange man bad are now joining in with russian man bad.

@skepticalfaith5201

2 жыл бұрын

They are telling their audience exactly what they want to hear that keeps them tuned in.

Much appreciated this discussion. I found myself in Ukraine in February 2014, and responded to what I saw by adopting my assumptions as fact. But the longer I stayed - until April 2016, the realities of Ukraine began to emerge as I talked to Ukrainians who had expert knowledge of its history, economics and society. As that happened, my assumptions proved to be wrong. What emerged in their place was a picture of a failed state, created over more than a century by self-interested outsiders: Russia, Austria, Poland, the U.K, and the U.S. While I respect Konstantin's views, he's clearly assuming there are immutable "Western values." I would argue he's not looking at that question with clear eyes. The U.S. is not the same place where I grew up in the 1950s and 1960s. The values of that time, family, friends, faith, and freedom of choice and opportunity have been eroded and replaced with an ideology that foreign to me, authoritarian, secular, and a regulated society that doesn't permit choice and dictates opportunity. It also have become thoroughly corrupt, which is the source of its decline. I now live in the "eye of the storm" in Moldova, and choose to remain because the values here are much closer to my own, and I've learned to respect the people behind them.

@AlexxAmadeo

2 жыл бұрын

"What emerged in their place was a picture of a failed state, created over more than a century by self-interested outsiders: Russia, Austria, Poland, the U.K, and the U.S." So, in other words, the more you learnt, the less you learnt? Because you clearly know nothing about Ukraine and its history if that's your takeaway. Now please tell us what you have learnt about Moldova, I am truly dying to learn what nonsense you can share with us.

@vicki5811

2 жыл бұрын

@Darrell Whitman Values and moral character is no longer part of this generations pay...it is only what they have in their pockets. My soul has more money than what is in my pocket.

@newforestpixie5297

2 жыл бұрын

Very many older British folk or over 55s at least unfortunately still believe everything they read and hear from the mainstream media without question . I work in their homes and have done for many years and many seem oblivious to the way corporate or political manipulation operates nowadays .. 👍❤️

@cherylmockotr

2 жыл бұрын

Well-written, thank you. America has declined in the wake of Europe declining, both due to the steady attack by Marxist ideology against basic Judeo-Christian values. Wide is the road to destruction...

@CKDz

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlexxAmadeo One must be careful with a small amount of knowledge on serious issues... and ensure a full reckoning of one's biases as we think.

I appreciate his perspective. As a citizen of the USA with a young nephew in the US Army, no we should not put boots on the ground.

Good talk, but is it genocide? It is if the Ukrainians keeps on bombarding the eastern Ukrainians because they leans more towards Russia. It isn't genocide if they just try to reclaim their territory. But the facts are Kyiv are attacking civilians in Donbass. The main question to be asked is who's to benefit from this war?

I'm not convinced modern day Western values are better, when a large portion of our society is made up of intolerant woke authoritarians, many of whom were happy for the lockdowns and restrictions to continue indefinitely without question or scrutiny. I'm not a Putin fan and don't think military action is justified, but it is clear that the west overthrew Yanukovych who was an ally of Russia and installed a leader who was hostile to Russia and pro-Nato. People like Obama played a big part in taking us to the situation we find ourselves in.

@MrImarcus

2 жыл бұрын

Spot on sir.

@RFSA180

2 жыл бұрын

The leaders (regardless of the side) are the baddies. The vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people just wanna be left in peace.

@marksulzman1551

2 жыл бұрын

True not to mention the constant war mongering & cimes against humanity perhaps going back to the 2 atomic bombs dropped on Japan though technically that was before the Nuremberg trials. Pretty naive/ignorant? & arrogant to boldly prop up "Western Values" especially with his modest celebrity success. Come on, the Gulf War / Slaughter didn't happen that long ago.

@denisdaly1708

2 жыл бұрын

only racists use the word woke.

@philblagden

2 жыл бұрын

@@denisdaly1708 It's not about race at all, and you are the one trying to make that an issue. My problem with the woke left is that they aggressively try to ruin the livelihoods of people who disagree with them. Old school liberals were tolerant of people with differing viewpoints. Modern woke liberals do not engage in dialogue, they only seek to censor people and start campaigns to get them fired.

Think Western values today? Think Trudeau and the truckers. Think Macron and the yellow vests. Think compulsory vaccination throughout the whole of Europe. Think BLM. Think Wokeism. Mr Kisin. YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!!!

@woodsonsanders1112

2 жыл бұрын

That's a really good point that would have added a whole lot of richness to this conversation.

@sebastiansigvardsson3950

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget The clowns in WEF 🤡

@cathyburkart9395

2 жыл бұрын

Am sure he meant, the Western World that fell with the new EU, BLM movement & wokeism... I know I never thought it would unfold like this, yet here we are. Should have nipped it in the bud but didn't.

@sonya2916

2 жыл бұрын

@@5heffPaul people are fighting..we have to become super mentally and spiritually stronger. We need our leaders to listen to our veiws too..it cant continue being top down governance.Otherwise those destructive totalarian forces are going to destroy the wild and free west

@youtubeyoutube936

2 жыл бұрын

Roger if you watch triggernometry he has spoken against all those things. It’s a traditional liberalism not the Wokery

During the time I spent in the British Army in Germany from the mid sixties until the early seventies, we went through essentially the same series of manœuvres year after year and we were always in attack. Each training year started after the winter with ‘section in attack’ then ‘platoon in attack’ and so on right through to the big autumnal exercises with the whole NATO shooting match involved. We were always in attack. The only times I remember being in defence was when we played the role of ‘enemy’ or the Russians, for the main body. The expansion of NATO to the east is just the same process acted out politically. NATO is not now, and never has been, a defensive alliance. The US is the sheriff and NATO is his posse.

@ainenibharra5176

2 жыл бұрын

Delighted at the high IQ of common sense, oridary folk

@nickmaclachlan5178

2 жыл бұрын

Well, as the old saying goes: "The best form of Defence is to Attack". If you wait for your enemy to make a move, it may already be too late to counter it.

@larrycable1948

2 жыл бұрын

I served in the US Army in the 1980s and our realistic function was a speed bump that hopefully would slow the Soviet's down enough to deploy from the states. Sitting in the Fulda Gap with M47 Dragon waiting for our portion of the 19,000 Soviet Bloc tanks didn't seem like a plan that included my long term survival.

@keithkelso9872

2 жыл бұрын

This is all a show. Putin gets Ukraine but zelenxky is made out to be a hero

@krissveismanis990

2 жыл бұрын

Stephen, I guess You don't know this sir, but in Latvia a huge percentage of population are Russians + other Russian speaking minorities. Most of them live a seperate life from most of Latvians, many don't even speak Latvian. Most of these people or their ancestors have arrived here illegally during Soviet occupation and after tge USSR ended, they stayed. They hate America, NATO and Latvians. In the capital only half of the population are Latvian. Plenty of people here who hate You, but they also hate me and my fellow Latvians. Pretty sure that not everyone gave You a finger. Did they? Most of the people here are against war and support Ukraine, which is the reason we joined NATO and EU, to protect ouraelves from war and invasion like the one happening in Ukraine now.

Fantastic conversation. It’s super cringe to watch all these people on social media immediately take a side, even idolize one side based on propaganda.

@keithkelso9872

2 жыл бұрын

People like being sheep

@harryflashman4542

2 жыл бұрын

the Russian perspective of the west being a culture of mindless children has some merit

@wyqtor

2 жыл бұрын

@@harryflashman4542 Those 'mindless children' know how to establish supply lines and war logistics. The duraks in the Kremlin don't.

@harryflashman4542

2 жыл бұрын

@@wyqtor I'm referring to western media hysteria and how it drives our worldview.

@projectzed5766

2 жыл бұрын

I follow the new thing.

I am not sure what the western values are anymore after what has been going down in Canada.. Lets see how western USA is handling the Trucker Freedom convoy heading to D.C.

@cminor3016

2 жыл бұрын

That's no joke! Canada and US are acting more CCP backed every day

@dmsteele92831

2 жыл бұрын

Corrupt leaders are... pretty much the democratic party in USA and leftist leaders in Canada and Australia

@bdboyo

2 жыл бұрын

Thats my take, what are western values?? Western values are and have always been about greed and theyve trapmled over all to get what they want.

I thought “west was best” but I sadly note that we are spoiled and soft. Many live in Netflix land.

@LoremIpsum1970

2 жыл бұрын

Would you want to swap that with a life in a small town or rural Russia? Seriously?

@fanfeck2844

2 жыл бұрын

@@LoremIpsum1970 silly reply! Just because the wests populations have become weak, doesn’t mean we want to live in a village in Russia. The two things are totally unrelated

@LoremIpsum1970

2 жыл бұрын

@@fanfeck2844 Not in the slightest, you see your prospect and standard of living going up or down? Parts of America, just like parts of Europe already look rundown like Russia. That's just the start, you actually won't have to go there, where you live will end up looking the same. Well done!

@fanfeck2844

2 жыл бұрын

@@LoremIpsum1970 and what’s that got to do with being spoiled and soft? It’s being weak and lazy that will see a lower standard of living

@LoremIpsum1970

2 жыл бұрын

@@fanfeck2844 They're all one of the same. You'll realise that one day once you're off your meds.

The answer for years has been to negotiate a neutral Ukraine-Finlandization. Finland has been a Democratic western country since the 1950s, and USSR/Russia have been fine with that because it is not a strategic or military threat.

@stevephillips8719

2 жыл бұрын

That would be true IF the Russians (not just Putin) didn't believe that part of the Ukraine is wholly Russian.

@nutyyyy

2 жыл бұрын

It goes beyond that. It's not about Ukraine being neutral. Russia wants Ukraine as a puppet. Natural gas reserves in Ukraine are a serious challenge to Russia's dominance of natural gas supply to Europe. That's why the Crimea was seized. If you are astute enough to see the bullshit of western politicians yet gullible enough to think that a Kleptocractic Autocratic ex KGB agent somehow doesn't have overarching geopolitical goals that aren't simply to help people then I don't know what to tell you. The enemy of your enemy is not automatically you friend. Putin isn't here to own the libs or remove woke culture from the west. He is out to take advantage of perceived weakness from the west to his own advantage. There is a reason no Eastern European nations are flocking to Russia for protection from the West. They know what it means to be subjugated by Russia - whether its a Tsarist empire or murderous Soviet Socialist Regime.

@keithkelso9872

2 жыл бұрын

You’re right

@wyqtor

2 жыл бұрын

@@nutyyyy Spot on! I live in one of those Eastern nations, the rapes and crimes of the Red Army following our occupation after WWII is well documented. Now we are in NATO and the EU and we are very happy about it. Meanwhile, in Ukraine, we see the Russians acting the same as their grandfathers did back then.

@JustAsPlanned1

Жыл бұрын

Finlandization doesn't work because Russia attacks neutral countries. Finland joined NATO today and it's Russia's fault.

"The west has better values" so this justifies any aggression against Russland. Please think and replace "west" by "east". And then you see that your attitude only leads to war. You are not superior.

@ladybug5859

2 жыл бұрын

Nikki he didn't say that. He said he prefers the values of the West and he said that Ukraine was leaning toward those values. You can make your own decision and if you prefer the East put your money where your mouth is and go there and live be in Russia or Ukraine or China. IT'S up to you but try to NOT just hear but actually listen to every word spoken. Then respond. IT'S not all about you.

@wyqtor

2 жыл бұрын

The only aggression we see here is a Russian aggression towards people who were previously happy to live their lives in a pro-Western nation, but are now showered with bullets and rockets. And we also see the aggression of Russian bots trying to dominate the comment sections of videos, with little success - they are easily spotted.

@MuellerNick

2 жыл бұрын

@@wyqtor Watch "The Maidan Massacre" and "Ukraine on Fire" to get an educated oppinion. Both are on YT.

Essentially: we need wisdom in responding to this, and wisdom is severely lacking in this generation.

@chris-mg5ui

2 жыл бұрын

When they have been taught to despise their culture and themselves, is it any wonder

@danielwarton5343

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not just this generation. We’ve seen every generation alive caving to the dictatorships of medical mandates. All eyes of generations are blinded when it comes to wisdom.

@-b-sharp

2 жыл бұрын

Boomer?

@FMIFestival

2 жыл бұрын

I blame the Internet. The medium is the message.

@honeybadger5933

2 жыл бұрын

and GUTS and COURAGE and a lot of things.

When I was a young girl, my mother told me "across the kitchen table, no one wants to go to war". 50 years later, wealthy and powerful men continue to make choices that result in innocent men, women, and children being murdered "legally" in wars and occupations.

@morgan817

2 жыл бұрын

My parents always said, war happens in poor economies and over population. It is a way for a country to make some money and curve the population. War will always happen, just hope it's not here

@christopher_ecclestone

2 жыл бұрын

The wealthy powerful people don't fight the wars, that's the problem

@janejenkins5137

2 жыл бұрын

Military industrial complex.

@janesmith8050

2 жыл бұрын

@@morgan817 I think the mentality of "wars will always happen" is a big part of the problem. We have free will and choice. It's time to evolve and stop choosing war.

@grissom2023

2 жыл бұрын

@@christopher_ecclestone Neither do their kids. Can't see Hunter replacing his 'artists' brush with a rifle.

John Mearsheimer has interesting views on the Ukraine crisis and the West's blindness to it's own ideological bias. He described todays events six years ago! I write this as someone who is deeply appreciatieve of the fact that he lives in a liberal democracy.

Ah, the glorious "US intelligence"... - Putin says: "if you push (and you better not), this will happen" - US: This will happen - also US: ** push ** "Aha! you see! We told you it will happen!"

Having traveled a little in Russia in the last 40 years and had a few Russian friends in the past, what Konstantin has said is a true wake up call to people in the West. Putin and many Russian people do not think like the people of today´s UK, our history is different, we can never truly understand what lies deeply behind this issue...it is something we will just never get! If you don´t understand something how the hell do you think you are going to deal with it successfully? We have become overly influenced by those that get upset if you use the wrong pronoun, tell our 4yo´s that they can be any one of 12 genders they want, call the police if you call them an idiot, our nation is a wishy washy self indulgent mess, not a strong nation! Putin knows what he wants, we dont understand it or him, and the only thing we will do is invite more refugees...our virtue signaling answer to everything! This is an issue that will unfold over years, there is no answer now and to expect one is dumb beyond belief! But many will be asking for it!!!!!!

@dereksbooks

2 жыл бұрын

It is true and sickening that while the west has been embroiled in trivial first world problems like gender Identity, Russia and China have been busy actually working and being productive. I would like to hope that this is a wake up call for the west, but this will probably lead to just more divisive tribalism.

@TheLastSongbird124

2 жыл бұрын

@@dereksbooks agree. As sad as it may be, this perhaps will, over the coming decades, be the persistant reminder of the difference between the need to be a strong culture and one driven by self indulgent, adolescent woke idealism? Or, we could just listen to more Floyd :)

@naturegirl1970

2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree. The West has become so weak. Its embarrassing!

@NnamdiNw

2 жыл бұрын

So what do you want the West to do? Ignore what’s going on? I don’t understand the sentiment of this grandiose statement you’ve made.

@Goig3D

2 жыл бұрын

@@dereksbooks I would be astonished if Russia and specially China haven't been pushing wokeness in the West to undermine it over the past several years.

2 Questions: 1. Have you seen "Chernobyl" where the Russian miners pulled together 'for the greater good' to save their country men / Europe, when they were assured personal death? 2. Do you think ANY country in Europe would replicate that sacrifice today? Probably not based on 2 things: 1. Diversity does not create 'sacrifice' 2. The people who would, are discouraged, because they have been replaced. The ONLY encouraging thing, is that a vaccinated non-binary military will not save us... and neither will Klaus Schwab

@kathrynmcmorrow7170

2 жыл бұрын

Hear, hear!

@lr6477

2 жыл бұрын

LOVE YOUR WORK!

@scroopynooperz9051

2 жыл бұрын

Konstantin asks "is NATO / Western Europe willing to give up the comforts to stop Putin at any costs, including war?" One thing he doesn't ask is "Is NATO willing to stop its expansionist eastward drive in order to preserve peace?" He also doesn't ask, "is the western neoliberal dominant, 'profiteering at any cost' type of revolving door between corporations and governments really the system we want to preserve and spread around the world?" Given the horrendous state of the world economy, looming climate disasters, growing western techno feudalism and censorship, why would you want such a hegemonic system? Why wouldn't you want competition? Isn't that the way systems are refined and bettered, the western way?

@peterrezac881

2 жыл бұрын

@@scroopynooperz9051 Excelent points and well said.

@scroopynooperz9051

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterrezac881 we must always be careful to deconstruct a narrative and see if someone's logic can be applied in an open ended way. Sometimes what people say can sound profound and insightful but when we apply the their logic in a certain way, their argument falls apart. In other words, what Konstantin says here sounds intelligent, but it is simply emotionally charged opinion informed by his particular political views. No hint of objectivity here.

FROM A FRIEND: Being a Ukrainian living in the USA for the last 18 years, I have long lost count of how many times I have been through some variation of the following discourses: --- 1 --- Them: Good to meet you. What’s your nationality? Me: I am from Ukraine Them: Ah, RuMe: No, I’m Ukrainian Them: Oh, what’s the difference? Me: Well, you know, about the same as between Chinese and Koreans or Mexicans and Guatemalans; they are different nationalities. Them: {either awkwardly apologize or get offended and walk away} --- 2 --- Them: You look so Russian. Are you Russian? Me: No, I am Ukrainian. My ethnicity is Slavic. There’s no such thing as “looking Russian”. Them: {a sarcastic} Oh excuse me! -OR- {a silent stare} -OR- Jeez you sound like you hate Russians! --- 3 --- Them: {overhearing me speak Russian} What part of Russia are you from? Me: I’m from Ukraine Them: Oh, The Ukraine, that’s in the eastern part, right? Me: It’s Ukraine without “the”, it isn’t part of Russia, it is a separate sovereign country. Them: {look confused and change the subject} Sigh… I know that many will find it obvious why such discourses are unnerving but since the above examples show that there are also many who have no clue, I’d like to explain. The history of Ukraine is long and complicated but the short of it is roughly this: in their early histories Ukraine and Russia were developing on separate tracks with their own distinguishing cultural and linguistic features until Russia’s relationship to Ukraine became that of an imperialistic oppressor. Driven by a desire to assimilate Ukraine under its control, Russia resorted to a variety of measures ranging from brute force to economic warfare to cultural extermination policies banning Ukrainian language, scorning Ukrainian culture as crude and inferior and stereotyping Ukrainian people accordingly. This went on for quite some time. Various groups within Ukraine continuously resisted the oppression and fought for Ukrainian identity and self-determination with only a few short-lived successes until the eventual collapse of the USSR. In 1991 Ukraine finally gained independence but its fight for identity and firm footing was far from over. During the soviet rule, Ukrainian economy was fashioned to play narrow (mainly agricultural and industrial) roles in the overall USSR economy which, upon USSR’s collapse, left Ukraine without the full range of industries and infrastructure necessary to support an independent economy. The country began its still ongoing struggle to become self-sustaining while Russia continued to be able to dominate economically, Ukrainian people and culture still often stereotyped as “less-than” with many also suffering from now internalized stereotypes of inferiority while a lot of the world didn’t even get the memo that Ukraine has ever been anything other than “the bread basket of the USSR”. This history isn’t long-forgotten past, it is a living reverberation in the minds and hearts of millions of Ukrainians today affecting many aspects of our wellbeing. It’s an open and often unspoken wound that cuts across generations of Ukrainian nationals and the diaspora and it will take many more generations to fully heal this legacy of oppression. Although I’m sure it does happen, and not at all to say that the groups I’m about to mention suffer any less from prejudiced treatment in the US, but I imagine that very few would be ignorant or insensitive enough to approach a stranger with Asian features and proclaim “You look so Chinese! Are you Chinese?” or overhear someone speaking Spanish and proceed to ask “Where in Mexico are you from”. As a Ukrainian Slav, that same consideration was not extended to me far too many times. When that happens, when people I meet automatically associate my origin, look or language with Russia, what hurts is not the ignorance itself but the reminder that this was the whole point: to erase Ukrainian as a standalone identity that is separate from Russia. Every time it happens, there’s a voice inside me that whispers, “the oppressor has succeeded”, that's what hurts. There’s no changing the past, what is done is done. None of the above is said to demonize any nation or group of people or hand blame for the historical injustice that was done. I want to be seen as Ukrainian not because I hate Russians (I absolutely don’t hate or even dislike Russians and have a number of dear Russian friends whom I adore) but simply because I am not Russian, I am Ukrainian and being Ukrainian is a part of my overall identity that is important for me to honor. And all I ask of my sisters and brothers of all nationalities is just to remember this. Ukraine is not Russia or in Russia. Ukrainians are not Russians. It is “Ukraine”, not “the Ukraine”. A lot of Ukrainians speak Russian as well as Ukrainian; speaking Russian does not make someone Russian. There is long painful history that makes it a touchy subject and a lot of Ukrainians take it close to heart, please respect it. Today is a special day. Today is International Vyshyvanka Day, the day on which Ukrainian nationals and diaspora around the world celebrate our traditional Ukrainian garment as a symbol of our identity, unity and heritage. Thank you for reading this long rant saved for this special occasion. If you are a fellow diasporan who has suffered similar frustrations, I hope it served as validation, and if you’re someone who may have unknowingly inflicted them, I hope it was of edifying value.

@stevengallagher635

2 жыл бұрын

I get something similar being Scottish as many people, ignorant people, who live far away say that's in England right? The difference is Scotland and England's bloody history is further back in time while Ukraine has a very more recent difficult relationship. What you said did not surprise me but it does happen in many instances, not just Ukraine. I pray for a resolution to the conflict.

@eloramiller3492

2 жыл бұрын

Hi there. Thanks for sharing your story. I'm wondering if you're able to shed some light on the reason that Putin says he's stepping in. Is what he says true? Is the media totally getting it wrong? I can't believe that Putin is the good guy here, as many people are saying. Do you know anything about the so called neo-nazis that have been targeting Russian speaking Ukrainians? Is this war justified do you think, and could Ukraine have solved it's own problems itself? Thanks.

@utube271258

2 жыл бұрын

@@eloramiller3492 I also would like to hear further discussion and understanding on these points. especially around the Azov Battalion and the National Guard, and also the break away states.

@bearskyshebearsky

2 жыл бұрын

well, you are getting a re-branding dude! Are you happy about this?

@rudakita2822

2 жыл бұрын

The genoside thousands of Polish villagers and Bandera helping Hitler is also a part of Ukrainian history, I am afraid.

Absolutely brilliant. Many forgot about the Munich security council speech made by Putin in 2007 and where he was very clear about what would happen.

@smaragd_

2 жыл бұрын

It would not happen if Trump stayed in power since Putin then had someone to talk to and negotiate. Democrats only want war and need one to cover for their failed actions around Covid and economy in general. Now this is being used to push for the Great Reset as well and apply Chinese methods in the middle of the West. You watch.

@Cliodhna3ltlbrdsheal

2 жыл бұрын

@@smaragd_ I agree with you. I’ve been watching Russia since a child and Regan propaganda. I love history but not fairy tales created to condemn. So much ugly, so many outright lies spreading everywhere. Chinas economy (housing and tech) in a hidden mess and the US ? We’ve been screwed since Ruby Ridge and Waco. Those should have been seen as the canaries they were for the dystopian hell Biden Administration culminating in. Putin been trying to keep things level from go but deep state coups leading to civil wars meant to destabilise haven’t done anything of the sort. Russia makes its medicines, can produce food needs and wares obtained from India if necessary. I believe citrus is the only imports not also available at hand. They can build greenhouses. Crashing the Ruble okay? They raised interest rates unlike the US with the Fed lying 🤥 and changing reporting data to continue debt jubilees before the lies cannot be maintained anymore. Rhyming in time with 29’ incoming. Americans are going to have their collective arses handed to them and the Come to Jesus” on the economic alter. Our inputs for crops have more than doubled and continue to rise, we outsource everything unless you are your own food supply chain. Our dairy industry decimated, our small farms long been gone. Regenerative Ag is getting a foothold though this renewables nonsense is a death sentence if Biden continues. US debt? They stopped counting after the Enron scandal and bailout jubilees began. 911 ushered in mass state surveillance cause when the masses looked the other way with Distractions our Constitution became toilet paper.

@Cliodhna3ltlbrdsheal

2 жыл бұрын

I’m a peaceful Anarchist (despise communism most of government but democracy is no more than sharply dressed tyranny at end of the day too) and voting as I’ve seen growing up is nothing more than money interests putting in a mouthpiece and the deep state runs the show in the shadows. Our leaders are weak and who wants that? Putin the smartest man in any room or situations and has done for Russian Federation what no one else could have. He has my respect for his intelligence and dedication long before any here in Washington.

@rideon6140

2 жыл бұрын

@@smaragd_ Napolean - Dont interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. Putin did not start the war in the Trump reign because America was doing more damage to itself then he could. To place any faith in Trump after his behavior in the last election is just contributing to Putin's anti-American propaganda.

@smaragd_

2 жыл бұрын

@@rideon6140 That is not true. Trump worled against globalists. Look at the USA now. It is pathetic what Democrats are doing inside the country.

Good conversation. I was in the camp of thinking Russia wouldn't invade and konstantin is right it was because I don't trust the UK media or government to tell me the truth. Finding some people I can trust on this issue is going to be interesting over the next few weeks.

@johannabarry6325

2 жыл бұрын

Me too. It is awful at a time like this to not know who to trust

@tristancan

2 жыл бұрын

Me! Check out my FB posts over the last few years! All by design #Plandemic #Thesilentwarcontinues Sorry just gone mainstream, but they are covering a fake war!?

@Madonnalitta1

2 жыл бұрын

That's my take on it too. I still feel that way though, who knows if what we've seen today is true? Look at covid coverage. People believed that for months on end.

@H.L.S.98

2 жыл бұрын

Yep.

@blackswan4486

2 жыл бұрын

@@johannabarry6325 and because of the Covid lockdowns we can’t go out and verify things ourselves…

Appreciate your candour boys. I’m first generation Australian so “ western”. My father came here in 38, from Greece , my maternal grandmother in the 1910s from Cambridgeshire. I love this country which has enabled my whole family to thrive( I’ve been a GP for 30 years ). But like Peter Hitchens I fear the west is lost. You began mentioning the distractions of trans etc. instead of matters like the Ukraine. But the enlightenment project in my opinion is following its natural course towards nihilism. The west’s demise has produced a climate which would not tolerate Churchill nor even JFK so what is there to uphold Konstantin ? In my opinion the meta narrative is not about liberal west vs CCP vs Putin it is about what we ground ourselves in. As a convert to Eastern Orthodox Christianity my grounding has a strong premodern bent and trumps( excuse the trigger!) political systems as a means to ultimate purpose. As a GP working now I have nothing to give my suffering patients who lack purpose and meaning within the medical model. Scratch a little deeper but I really do appreciate both of you and the freshness and truth of your perspectives . Keep up the good work!

@typhoon2827

2 жыл бұрын

Have you been paid per jab given?

@brendancorrigan

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed. The worst is yet to come ... kzread.info/dash/bejne/fGaE0MmhqM2uj7A.html

@Robsav-yx6vi

2 жыл бұрын

@@typhoon2827 … oh please ( grow up! ) Science is real sir .

@Robsav-yx6vi

2 жыл бұрын

@S T between the Doctor and his patient.

@asnark7115

2 жыл бұрын

@@Robsav-yx6vi Not any more. Now it's between the govn't, tech moguls, investors, the hospital admin, and the doctor lastly. Patient is just a lab rat.

As a Ukrainian who lives in Israel I must say that I know the situation in Ukraine from within through my family who lived there, and though I know that the situation is complex, I've noticed that the mainstream media has been drawing a narrative and that made me very nervous because I couldn't be sure wether I'm dealing with facts. So I'm very grateful for this show. Fraddy you are awesome.

@kalliopea6911

2 жыл бұрын

Here is a good one kzread.info/dash/bejne/fZ9ty8mNobfeadY.html

@feverdata6640

2 жыл бұрын

"lives in israel" lol, not reading after that

@petersimmons3654

2 жыл бұрын

The media have been asking Ukrainians who are still living there, they all say the same thing. Russian conscripts are being bussed to what they think is a training camp, and when they get there it's the front line. He even abuses Russians. The media describe what they see, it's called journalism, not opinion like these slack lads in designer gear thinbking they are important commentators. Commentators are made from experience, it i9sn't something you just think 'I casn do that'. Saves having to work though.

@franfinesim

2 жыл бұрын

My co-worker thinks the same. She stopped following any news, because she's bot sure what's true. Her family tells her another story from Kijev.

@Christian-jx3nx

2 жыл бұрын

So what is the truth?

This may well have been avoided if Putin's security concerns were taken seriously. The expansion of NATO is perhaps the biggest problem.

@nutyyyy

2 жыл бұрын

You don't understand he always wanted Ukraine and always will. You are fundamentally assuming that you can simply placate him by compromise and showing weakness. This isn't about the west, that's simply an excuse to justify expansion. You are acting as though the world and realpolitik requires fairness but it doesn't. Take that approach and you will continue to be outmaneuvred.

@pz_faust6866

Жыл бұрын

@@nutyyyy as John Mearsheimer stated, "its all western imagination" you spit on there as well as what he said, you dont take the Russian seriously about it.

“I’m not interested in Russia, I want the dominance of Western values”. Well, there you have it. The origin of most all post WW2 conflicts.

@Rig_JW

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly true. Everyone who says "I don't want to talk, I want to win" is a warmonger by definition. It's not important how benign they feel when saying that. This is a tyrannical framework and will always lead to war, as one will always feel justified waging it. Peace needs understanding, respect, awareness and sometimes compromises. You can't have everything you want if you want to be on good terms with others.

@flavorgod

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rig_JW but the other side does not share the same sentiments. Do you want Russia or China running the world. Say goodbye to the freedoms and way of life you've taken for granted. Especially for me who lives in a third world Asian country I would rather the West be in charge than China who has plans on my nation. That doesn't kean I think the West is perfect. No one is.

@devilgod136

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@solitairecat1

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't understand the claims he was making until he made that statement, which made me realize his opinion is biased.

@deltatee9050

2 жыл бұрын

@@flavorgod As someone who is also living in a third world Asian country, I honestly don't want the West to dominate the world, which it is already doing through influence. I don't want to live in Chinese or Russian rule either, but I believe they need to exist for check and balance among superpower nations. What the West is doing now is just rebranded colonization, not focused on literal territories but influence and ideology. Ideally, each country should be able to stand on their own feet and protect themselves. They can't, so us smaller countries tend to rely on superpowers to defend them (which isn't free), but let's not kid ourselves, any superpowered nation will take advantage of a weaker country and only those on a similar playing field would be able to scare the other enough to actually mean something. Again, I do not want to live under Russian or Chinese rule, I don't even want to live under Western rule because I'd prefer my country be able to stand on its own some day. I just think the world following one set of values dictated by the West is another form of colonization that can easily be taken advantage of especially with no one to serve as check and balance.

Ok guys.. but when can we get back to talking about transgender vegetarian communists saving the climate and the fact that old people die from colds?!

@annmorgana2848

2 жыл бұрын

😂

It wasn't unpredictability. Trump offered respect and dignity to world leaders, and he knew how to pull it back and lay it on at the right times. Prime example being North Korea. He gave them a pathway to earn the world's respect and save face, and that goes even farther with politicians than it does in kindergarten.

@marynadononeill

2 жыл бұрын

exactly!

@davebauman4991

Жыл бұрын

27:00 We the people didn't reject Trump for being bigly bold. We are alarmed by the company he keeps. The extremists that rally around him. He never admonished nor distanced himself from them. He'd only fan their flames.

Great discussion, I totally agree with Kostya! I am a Russian, who lives in the USA, I heard concise, strait forward answers to a quite weak, left-leaning host’s questions. To many Russians over here, the situation in Ukraine is clear. Especially for those of us, who still have families in Russia and Ukraine. Putin, has been reassembling the USSR, that was dismantled in 1991. In his speech during the celebration of 300 yrs of St Petersburg, he mentioned the need to restore the pride of Russian people, erasing the humiliation of USSR destruction. He made his plan of restoring the glory of Russia known to the world. Why nobody in the West paid any attention then?

@bogmelochej

2 жыл бұрын

I have quite different opinion after listening Putin's speech. Neither he nor Russians never wanted to invade Ukraine. It's USA work. American politicians inspired this conflict similarly as they are provoking China with Taiwan now. Bastards. Divide and rule.

My father was born in Poland in 1935. It is now Ukraine and has been since the end of WWll. Putin might have a point.

Absolutely, "the caliber of our leaders has declined..." Putin was given an opportunity.

@jjroseknows777

2 жыл бұрын

I thought Freddie's response to this SO TRUE statement, was quite dense, didn't you?

@000anon

2 жыл бұрын

@@jjroseknows777 He's just playing devil's advocate which is his role as a (great) interviewer.

@wildcampingharry

2 жыл бұрын

The West no longer has any real statesmen. And that is a real problem for us.

@melmorrison1400

2 жыл бұрын

Western leaders are puppets to the WEF and UN. Who are constantly telling us we need to build back better. To do that our societies need to be broken. Maybe... this has been planned for a while, by the people who are really pulling all the strings

@metaphoricdirigible1499

2 жыл бұрын

Mel Morrison This has been in the cards since at least 2003. Just a matter of time.

Patrick Lancaster who is an American journalist, has lived in Ukraine for 8 years in the Donbas region. His uptakes are truthful along with Eva Bartlett. Their reporting really differs from the mainstream narrative. They deserve so much cognition for their bravery in speaking out and reporting on what is actually happening.

Konstantin commented that he wants Western values being the dominant values and within 2 minutes acknowledged that Western countries reneged on their commitment to protect Ukraine. This is central to the problem and it's not the first time this problem/inconsistency had occurred. We don't keep our commitments. It's a problem and we have to fix it.

@marynadononeill

2 жыл бұрын

The west needs to return to its Christianity or it is doomed.

@barbramae4942

2 жыл бұрын

Agree. Felt the same with Jordan Peterson’s interview with Kagan who started out saying Russia invaded Ukraine unprovoked. In the comment section of that piece, a person pointed towards this professor’s talk. It was very enlightening and I think less biased: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fKaBy7WKcaq1g5c.html

@pz_faust6866

Жыл бұрын

@@barbramae4942 im glad UnHeard bring him in 4months ago

Timely podcast. Thank you both Unherd and Triggernometry coming together to discuss this very important issue.

@theotheo7241

2 жыл бұрын

bottom line is, how can UK and the rest of the West claim that they want to fight for the preservation of the democracy outside their countries when Australia, New Zeeland, America, Canada have cracked down on their own people's rights and freedoms with so much violence ? When Canada has police on horses trampling an elderly indigenous woman just because she was part of a protest against the useless and mad vaccine mandates and totalitarian covid restrictions why would Canada even dare to think that it has the right to meddle in other countries' affairs??Same with Australian govt, don't we all know that their police used energy directed weapons against the protesters fighting the vaccine mandates? The heck with your finger wagging as if you are the depositary of truth and righteousness . Do you think Russia and China are not seeing what these globalists are doing to our countries?? Of course Russia is taking advantage when they see Trudeau, Biden, Boris, Macron, Merkel dividing their own people and good for Putin for using this opportunity.

@microfarming8583

2 жыл бұрын

Ukrainian government has closed down 3 TV stations that criticised them and imprisoned the head of the opposition party. That's not a democracy

@twohands475

2 жыл бұрын

@@microfarming8583 But it's a 'democracy' installed by the western world, so all good 👍 🤣

@1watsonwatson

2 жыл бұрын

Ukraine is a distraction. Has Russia really invaded Ukraine? The BBC says so, but just because that's what they say has happened does not mean that it has happened. Putin and NATO could be actors playing for the same team. Keep an open mind & don't give this nonsense a moment of your time, or an ounce of your energy kzread.info/dash/bejne/c4SMm7NmoqbVYLQ.html

@friscovigario9780

2 жыл бұрын

@@theotheo7241 Well said

I think your point about Western Values is really key. But are WE doing that right now (US/UK). I don't see very many Western Values in our domestic or foreign policy over my lifetime. Konstantin, this might look real good to you comparatively speaking, but we're in freefall. Morally, ethically, institutionally - so not sure a response from us will promote Western Values.

@bighands69

2 жыл бұрын

What you are seeing is the same as what happened in pre WW2. Nobody really want to fight especially at the elite levels of society. The British elite for several years prior to WW2 was appeasing at every level even when Prussian Germany was taking over Germany and building towards war. The only thing about Boris Johnson is that he does not seem to want to appease at this stage. The spirit of a culture is something that is deeply ingrained into the psyche. Things like free speech, right to defend and the right to self determination is a manifestation of a society. Russia better hope that its 50 year old nuclear warheads actually work when the time comes.

While I appreciate Mr Konstantin's candour, I will not mistake his frankness for correctness. If Western values should be the premier value system then why not go a step further and try to make it the only system? We've tried this btw. This is the reason NATO exists. It is there to impress upon the world its member states' superior value system through expanding the West's economic and military influence. We rightfully talk about the failures of the USSR but how many success stories does NATO have? The Balkans is still poor and the Middle East is objectively far worse off than it was at any point in human history. Libya is a mess, Syria is a mess, Iraq is a mess, Afghanistan is a joke and there is a Western-backed genocide taking place in Yemen. We've found reason after reason to invade and spread or civility. We couldn't let Saddam have "WMDs" so we gave them democracy. We couldn't let Gadaffi and Assad kill their own people so we gave their countries democracy. We couldn't let Afghanistan be a breeding ground for terrorism so we gave them democracy too. The West brought civility and modernity to those savages in Africa and we couldn't let left-wing governments in Latin America threaten our wonderful value system by spreading theirs so we engaged in all manner of unscrupulous tactics like plotting coups and funding rebels with drugs and drugs money. A supremacist view of any kind will always lead to the need to impose it on everyone, at any cost - whether you are a Muslim and believe homosexuals should be killed, a Christian and fight to make laws that make abortion impossible under any circumstances or that democracy is the best thing since sliced bread and everyone must have it. I sincerely believe that one reason the entire world is not in complete ruin due to western values is that there is push back from other value systems. I believe the same about communism, Christianity, Atheism and just about any other political, economical, social or religious value system. Total dominance leads to silos and echo chambers. On top of all of this, we can't even figure out what our values are and what the hierarchy of importance is for these values. Some people believe that using the correct gender pronoun is more important than the right to free speech. It seems more and more that cancelling someone for a thing they did or said decades ago is, without any regard for the personal growth they have made since then, is what the West is turning to. One last point. You started off by saying that just because the media often lie to us doesn't mean that they lie all the time. This is true but I would argue that if someone has a history of lying to you, it is better to be sceptical of everything they say than it is to believe anything they say.

@PnoidNews123

2 жыл бұрын

The countries you mentioned Libya Syria Latin America are in terrible shape due to us killing thier leaders or installing puppet governments. Sir western ideology is great for growth of capitol but is it great for families or humans? I would argue no. Divorces broken homes medicated diabetic illiterate under classes. bug men stuck in cubical worshipping technology never touching a woman. Our culture is hamburgers n Prozac. I see nothing to be chauvinistic about.

@SaltyDooDoo

2 жыл бұрын

Nobody is gonna waste their time reading all the shit u just typed... 🤣

@safi456

2 жыл бұрын

@Abby I'm assuming he was being sarcastic.

@safi456

2 жыл бұрын

@@SaltyDooDoo Speak for yourself

@safi456

2 жыл бұрын

@@PnoidNews123 I agree. Everywhere the West has stepped foot in, it has left it burning in anarchy for many decades after. We dont export our values, we impose our say-so on the rest of the world. We install and/or bribe puppet leaders to do our bidding, almost always at the expense of the will of the populace, and against their values. We always go in uninvited. Our capitalist mindset of voracious, unstoppable consumption has been spun to give it the term "Western values". Afghanistan is an example of trying to export our unwanted values on others: we have had to leg it out of there with our tail between our legs. They got their value system back without firing a single shot, while we massacred hundreds of thousands in an attempt to impose our will on them.

I like Triggernometry and enjoy KK's usually humorous analysis and opinions. While respectful of his knowledge on this subject I have a counterpoint: In the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, Russia, the US and the UK agreed to (1) Respect Belarusian, Kazakh and Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders. In 2014 the USA engineered a coup on the back of civil unrest. It also ran Ukraine (Biden) and chose its political leaders (Victoria Nuland). This, in my book, shows as much respect for Ukrainian sovereignty as Russia did when it invaded. Ukraine is a victim of the callous geopolitical games of more powerful nations. Also, I believe NATO should have been disbanded in 1991 following the collapse of the Warsaw Pact. NATO is now little more than a tool of American foreign policy.

@jmerced

2 жыл бұрын

Good points, I'm not a historian but from what I've been able to gather, I like your reasoned response.

@Kavala76

2 жыл бұрын

@@olddouchebag "...the people of Ukraine want to align with the West". Can you provide any evidence for this? My understanding is that Ukraine is a very divided country as evidenced by voting patterns and the civil war which started after the US-backed coup in 2014. Ukraine rejected EU membership in 2013 partly because it made economic ties with Russia (Ukraine's biggest trading partner & energy provider) impossible.

@tarqinquentinsson-obviousl957

Жыл бұрын

@@Kavala76 Still having trouble believing that the people of Ukraine want to align with the West?

@Kavala76

Жыл бұрын

@@tarqinquentinsson-obviousl957 I'm sure some do, as I'm sure some do not. Where did state that I was having this "trouble"?

@tarqinquentinsson-obviousl957

Жыл бұрын

@@Kavala76 describing the Maidan Revolution as an "American coup", and describing Ukraine as being the victim of the "geopolitical games of" any nation besides Russia, is at odds with the notion that Ukrainians want to align with the West... don't you think?

When you watch Unherd...it's hard to fathom how in the hell CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN and FOX are still in the "news" business. These guys just simply put them all to shame.

@Demane69

2 жыл бұрын

It's been this way for years. A very part of the culture war is this persistent ignorance that our news is sill telling the truth (allowed by the social media explosion). The frustration lays with so many so called intelligent people still thinking our western media isn't a bought and paid for propaganda machine. The truth hasn't been told since BEFORE Trump hit office and has worsened 10 fold since. Nearly everything since 2016 has been bloated lies, from major political controversies like Russia/Trump collusion to destroying people who did nothing wrong like Gina Carano by sculpting false narratives on a 24 hour news cycle. Why has it become this way? Because globalization means central power control. The (global)Left is bringing us toward this, by telling us it's the far Right doing it. Russia is a no bullshit country. They admit they are an Oligarchy and admit voting anyone in only means you get another Oligarch. The west is THE SAME WAY NOW, but we mask it behind fluffy safe sounding words reflective of a bygone past, that makes us think we still have actual choice and freedoms.

@1dkappe

2 жыл бұрын

Unherd is uneven at best. Some good stories, some - like the one about the Yale “tiger mom” faculty couple - that are pretty awful. Just because you’re contrarian doesn’t mean you’re better than “the media” (whatever that means).

@1dkappe

2 жыл бұрын

Unherd is uneven at best. Some good stories, some - like the one about the Yale “tiger mom” faculty couple - that are pretty awful. Just because you’re contrarian doesn’t mean you’re better than “the media” (whatever that means).

@detroitredwings7130

2 жыл бұрын

@@1dkappe the toast I make in the morning could do a better job reporting the news than the current corporate media giants. You seem to be looking for perfection when I was just pointing out the obvious.

@1dkappe

2 жыл бұрын

@@detroitredwings7130 Unherd is far from perfect. The consolidation of media was already being reported on in The Nation in the mid 80s. Substantive news coverage from alternative sources can be found, but don’t just follow the lazy contrarian point of view like Unherd.

Better question is does media ever get anything right?

@anderander5662

2 жыл бұрын

If you're talking about mainstream media and state supported media......probably not

Convenient timing for all of this. Are they hoping we all now forget about COVID and focus on the new danger in Eastern Europe?

Nice video I saw Konstantin's tweet on twitter He makes a lot of sense and his no nonsense explanation is refreshing to see Lots of inconvenient truth in what he says imo

So this guy listened what Putin had to say, that's very good as we all shoud learn to listen what others say first. He started to analyze Putin's speech and actually couldn't find anything wrong with that, but decided to dismiss the entire rationales because: hey I don't care what Russia says, we are the West and we have to be dominant. So I would like to know: exactly what are these values that West promotes? Free speech? well we see what happened in the last 2 years. Freedom of movements? Well people in Russia enjoied much more freedom in the last two years than Europeans or Americans or Australians, that's for sure. Freedom to get rid of our leaders if they do something outrageous or against the Constitution? So why Boris Johnson is still in his place? And why many other leaders are in their places after what they did in the last two years? Moreover, how should we affirm our "dominance"? Invading other countries? like NATO did with IRAQ and Afganistan? Or bombing whoever we think is not aligned with our values, like NATO did with Belgrade? Btw, if NATO is a defensive alliance, why it attacked those countries? My point is that whatsoever value we want to defend or promote, these values must have a foundation on the basic values which have always ruled people's relationships. The most important being probably to listen the point of view of others and see if we can agree on something, if there are elements of truth on the base of which we can pave the way for a compromise, because yes life is finding compromise and everyone living in the real world knows that. On the contrary, not listening others because I already know are views are true is the foundation of ideology.

@EightFrancs

2 жыл бұрын

There aren't any values in the West.

@georgecurly5965

2 жыл бұрын

The best analysis of the situation I've heard so far on any English-speaking forum. Thanks. As regards the alleged Western value of free speech, in the country where I live, the Czech Republic whose government is now a US puppet, a severe censorspip on the internet has been introduced and our citizens are even threated by 3-year prison sentences for expressing views differing from what our "Ministry of Truth" declares to be true.

@josefisrael9887

2 жыл бұрын

Best analysis. God bless you

@okwrite7120

2 жыл бұрын

@@EightFrancs I disagree there is one over-riding value and that is self interest. They camoflage it by talking about human rights etc but ultimately they weild those rights in service of it. The west only cares about human rights when it is happening in a country that they don't like (read can't control the leadership).

@EightFrancs

2 жыл бұрын

@@okwrite7120 You're absolutely right. They are despicable.

Expansionism and coercive force are also ‘western values’. The U.S has 780 military bases set up around the world.

@bighands69

2 жыл бұрын

That is called strength. Many of those countries want to US to be present and are even in some instances willing to pay for the privilege.

@georgecurly5965

2 жыл бұрын

@@bighands69 This strength is the source of the arrogance of the US exceptionalism which in turn causes and further aggravates most of the problems the world is facing nowadays.

@bighands69

2 жыл бұрын

@@georgecurly5965 US exceptionalism is about its structure of government and how the US separates power. People confuse that to mean US power internationally. The reason the US is so powerful is that it has had over 150 continuous years of Market economy which no other nation has had. American exceptionalism allows for its market economy to exist in a very stable manner. The old idea that you can make it in America exists because it has a very free culture.

@lyupkabackstrom3845

2 жыл бұрын

@@bighands69 you talk as you know what people in these countries really want? You are talking from a point their installed governments want? Or are you saying this from your personal perspective?

I am in Europe. We get different and a wider variety of news. If you look at a map, you will see that programs in three quarters of the world, are implying that they prefer to trade with China, the Arab countries, India, and Russia, etc. etc. rather than the US. They see the Russia-Ukraine war similar to the way US Historian John Mearsheimer. John Joseph Mearsheimer is an American political scientist and international relations scholar, who belongs to the realist school of thought. He is the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor at the University of Chicago. If you are lying to the American and British people that is a great disservice. Mearsheimer says the war is the fault of the West. If the West is no less corrupt than anyone else...Well? I hope we are not lying to ourselves.

Mr. Kisin should know history of Ukraine better, especially being part Ukrainian.

🦉It will be Freddie's problem when he becomes the best thoughtful, insightful PM the UK may have the sense to elect in the future. Thanks for offering the sane, self-questioning program as always🙏

@lemilemi5385

2 жыл бұрын

Then the puppet masters will pull out the “photos” and Freddie Blair/Trudeau is at the wheel

@jozsefnemeth935

2 жыл бұрын

In France, the former esseist Eric Zemmour is candidate for presidency and made this address today: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZqSGpLltoqjakqQ.html

@blackswan4486

2 жыл бұрын

@@nokateno but then a jerk or an idiot gets it

@blackswan4486

2 жыл бұрын

@gatherington I agree. And while I agree that classic western values should dominate, because they are the most helpful, at least comparatively to Russian values, it would seem (for my limited perspective on the issue), no one should want to dominate for the sake of domination. That’s exactly what Putin is accused of doing. Don’t dominate others, just leave everybody alone. Live and let live. Defend yourself, defend others, but don’t benefit at others expense.

@Bryt25

2 жыл бұрын

Well Starmer is also a product of Klaus Schwab's special school, like Trudeau and Macron. Let's stay with the idiot for now, unfortunately.

Keep up the outstanding interviews Freddie. Your integrity and interview style is just outstanding. Konstantin has total credibility and courage. Very grateful to you both.

"You have to accept reality before you know what you want to do about it." - Konstantin Kisin

@richardeastman9846

2 жыл бұрын

Reality -- the universe of physics including human behavior -- is complex and is never fully seen or comprehended. What we discriminate of it comes simultaneously with learning to do something. Realistic people are overrated and often the biggest nay-saying drag. Whether one is wrong or has ignored relevant factors is another matter. Detecting that requires, of course, someone who knows better, and of course that's always "me," right?

ask Eastern people if they want Western dominance….

@LIV-FREE-VET

Жыл бұрын

They don’t want western dominance, they want western values. My wife is Ukrainian, they want democracy. There’s a difference. I think you’re smarter than that unless you’re old Soviet babushka. We’ll depends what kind.

The news coming out of Ukraine hasn't shocked those of us who have been paying attention. Putin told us what Russia's security concerns are, and Ukraine had 8 years to implement the Minsk Agreement and to stop shelling the break away regions.

Konstantin: "The people on the ground, who are there, who speak the language..." know even less than you do. If you are in the forest, you only catch glimpses of the sun, but everything around you is in shadow, so you cannot tell direction. I was one of those who believed Biden was pumping it up to misdirect attention from his own failures. I live in the third world, and here you can only feel galled when fresh-faced American 20-year-olds believe they understand your country and its history. You are right: What is required, is humility. Report the facts, not opinions, and certainly not the opinions of kids fresh out of college.

@andreaskyriacou1173

2 жыл бұрын

What is required is 'love thy neighbour no? USA is not a neighbour? They just stir conflict divide people n cause wars which benefit them no? Haven't you noticed starred in the last 100 years or so?

@claramadrigal3991

2 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate your comment. I also live in a developing country and find these same kind of people that come to "help".

@soulcompassastrology7995

2 жыл бұрын

I think something that has been glossed over too is that there js leaked recordings of US gov picking Ukrainian leaders and politicians which has definitely created reaction from Russia as well... I don't think Russia is good but the west has been provoking the situation for sometime now and hasbt been good actors either...

@ajb7786

2 жыл бұрын

Shocked and surprised us all? This was one of the most predicted historical events ever. Everyone who is paying attention to reality instead of desperately trying to convince themselves that the ideology they've decided to worship while ignoring all realities that contradict the fantasies of said ideology rightfully, clearly, publicly, and logically predicted BEFORE Joe Biden became president that IF Biden became president he would hand over Afghanistan to the Taliban, Ukraine to Russia, Taiwan to China, and nuclear weapons to Iran, as well as making moves to destroy the value of the American dollar. None of what I'm saying is hindsight. This was well predicted by ALL right-leaning news sites in America. People didn't pay attention because they didn't want to, and now we're all going to pretend that none of this was predicted despite it all being archived on the internet.

@angelarich8455

2 жыл бұрын

they even think they know better than their elders over here in america it's rather obnoxious and lead to the state of our country right now- and now affecting the world

There has been a lot of mention of the "western values", but what exactly do you mean by that these days? Canada, France, Italy, Austria, or a UK government scaring the ... out of people while themselves partying every day?

Constantin was on fire in this interview. Great insight and measured thinking!

We do not choose weak leaders, they are chosen for us

@alexanderyozzo

2 жыл бұрын

No I specifically remember mailing my ballot in, so I got to choose right?

Putin has been saying since 2008 when NATO offered Ukraine future membership, and shouting since 2014, that he wants a demilitarized Ukraine with at least a negotiated neutrality. But the US keeps selling them arms. My bet is that Russia will forcefully demilitarize Ukraine in a few days without any real occupation. All the Javelin anti tank missiles sold by Raytheon are in store bunkers, and despite the fact its an automatic system, the Ukrainian military don't know how to use it. The pity is that the massive IMF loans used to buy all the US arms will have to be repaid by the Ukrainian people for decades to come. So sad it had to come to this - dialogue is best. We should push for a negotiated settlement because the last thing Putin really wants is to occupy Ukraine. But he does want a buffer state - security non-negotiable.

Anyone shocked and surprised never really understood the situation in the first place. What is happening is well within the parameters of what was obviously likely to happen, for quite some time.

Konstantin is a good guy. He talks a lot a sence too.

The Ukraine crisis is extremely complex, and this issue needs to be solved on the basis of understanding history and reality simultaneously. If the history of the region is ignored, there can be no correct path to a solution.

@cathyburkart9395

2 жыл бұрын

The problem with history is that it's fluid

@altaimountain

2 жыл бұрын

yes. and European security should be security for all. or its gonna be insecurity for all.

@sirrathersplendid4825

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not all that complex. But you’re right, it can’t be solved without understanding the history of the country.

@altaimountain

2 жыл бұрын

@Martin Baldwin-Edwards yes. all yhe space from Atlantic ocean to Urals including Russia is Europe and it's in the obvious interests of all european countries to have peace and good relations with each other.

@rider65

2 жыл бұрын

Extremely complex? 😂 That's typical rhetoric from a pseudo-intellect. Which means you don't know your ass from your elbow. It is not complex it all Fozzie Bear. Maybe you should pull your thumb out and stop pretending like you know. 🤣🙄 It's a simple matter of a bully getting their ass kicked and rightly so. It is time the West got their asses whooped. The west is nothing but a warmongering murderous pedophile Enterprise. It is time for the West to get its teeth knocked out. 👍 so save your bullshit for your fellow Muppets down at Fraggle Rock. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

After hearing Konstantin's words: 'I want Western dominance in the world and I do not care about what Russia wants' it became impossible to listen to him further. He is arguing for the balanced argument, however, he is failing to provide one. Does he realize essentially what he is saying? President Vladimir Putin also wants Russian dominance in the world and look where this desire has taken him. And which exactly western values is Kisin talking about? The west has deviated from them further than it ever has, two years of Covid have shown it very well. Look at Australia, look at Canada for god's sake

@blackswan4486

2 жыл бұрын

Even before the Covid era, the west values of the 1950s were replaced by materialism, the me generation, and hyper capitalism

@carlwide6594

2 жыл бұрын

Because it's the reality of life. Either the Weat rediscovers itself and its values and starts pushing them, or Russian and Chinese imperialism will take over. You have to choose which one you want out of those two things

@nutyyyy

2 жыл бұрын

@̐ But Russian values are for Russians and Chinese are for the Chinese. That's what you people can't understand. They aren't out to free you from woke culture. Woke culture is there to destroy our ability ro resist foreign power.

He said it best when the interview began "don't comment on things you know nothing about"

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

@tjtube65

Жыл бұрын

Cosmopolitan Bay 1 year ago "I'm not interested in what Russia wants, I'm not interested in what provokes Russia!"

@Present-Tense

Жыл бұрын

@@tjtube65 Do you have a point?

@tjtube65

Жыл бұрын

@@Present-Tense The two statements are contradictory.

Konstantin makes absolute sense regarding the young journalists who are boring and bring no real news and too much of their childish opinions and the idiot leaders or should I say "puppets". Been saying this myself for several years. I especially do not like the glorified Hollywood styled TV presenters that think acting goofy, when they're not being sanctimonious, is a mature way to report news and current affairs! I'm astounded at the immaturity in NZ of how our news is delivered. I don't watch it as I just cringe every time.

@marcopanti1017

2 жыл бұрын

100% Julie not to mention the fact that all TVNZ news and current events shows are state media products, inherently biased and sometimes propagandist. Then there’s the print/digital mainstream media in NZ, those outlets friendly to the current government received funding from the government, the PM also holding the department responsible for media funding. Conflict of interest much? So as you say, their output is patronisingly childish, often infantile, clearly biased and sadly, demonstrably corrupt. I do not tune in anymore, at all. Ironically you can tune in to Sky News Australia and there get far more critical content on NZ affairs than you can get from mainstream NZ broadcasters/publishers. It’s a sorry and shameful state of affairs indeed.

@ljo642

2 жыл бұрын

It's the same with Sky News Australia which, up until recently, was the best MSM channel for world news. Now, suddenly, they've got rid of their best and serious newscasters, and are using second rate lightweights to deliver important news and to carry out interviews. I'm tired of seeing young women (and sometimes men) who look as though they're about to go out clubbing rather than sitting on the world stage to speak about serious issues.

Here's the problem; Konstantin is taking what amounts to a Neoconservative position of aggressive self interest when he says "I don't care about how they feel, I care about the West being dominant". Okay, that's a rational position, but it isn't a wise one. Because in international affairs, you're not caring about hurting someone else's feelings, you are meant to care about what they will actually *do* if you hurt their feelings. If you are going to aggressively suppress some other state or power, you need to be sure (a) they cannot actually fight back and (b) you can cope with the aggression that naturally inspires in them, effectively forever. As we now see, we do not have the means to defend Ukraine. Pushing and pushing Russia- not least by the blatant western-backed coup in 2014- has created the current situation and Russia has responded. You have got to be pragmatic in international affairs and this Neoconservative "Ourselves uber alles" philosophy is consistently *not* pragmatic, because it requires and presumes a level of power we do not have and which no empire in history has ever been able to maintain in the long term. And if things then go wrong, as they have, you aren't entitled to switch to a "high minded" denunciation of the opposition, effectively holding them to a higher standard than oneself, bleating about sovereignty and democracy and human rights. It's a very flawed position. It has been continually blowing up in the West's faces for decades, and now here we are. It was simply practical to make agreements with post-Soviet Russia that Eastern Europe would be effectively a non-aligned DMZ, but we have instead used those nations as pawns in the Game Of Empires, and now we have the inevitable chaos.

@philoakman5040

2 жыл бұрын

Well said.

@nicolelouis8968

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, very well said. And the West's mask of democracy is steadily heading towards dictatorship.

@meatyowlleg8340

2 жыл бұрын

Liberal hegemony has failed so many times if you look at middle east, and at the front door of a bear you cant sadly act and do things all based on the self interest.

@nicolelouis8968

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/a4Ga2JSGadSepsY.html Interview with Donetsk-based American former military, Russell Bentley. I would trust people on the ground who live there, and other perspectives and not those supporting Nato/ Globalist oligarchs and their mainstream media puppets.

@lickspittle1

2 жыл бұрын

If the West is not dominant expect more conflicts like Ukraine, it is because the West is seen as weak ( Putin was obviously looking at the shambles of our departure from Afghanistan) this is what the decline of the West looks like

It's not only about listening to Putin's speech. Just rewind to John Mearsheimer's lecture in 2015, with 22 million views at the moment here on KZread, outlining EXACTLY why and what it is happening right now. We keep getting tangled analysing the reaction of media or government (propaganda) which is absolutely irrelevant.

Konstantin is spot on. Our political leaders come from our people. We are depoliticized in the West. Also we are raising technologized human beings. The results follow.

Freddie Sayers gets the scoop! Again! I wish you'd covered the Canadian Trucker /Trudeau thing ... but you are doing GREAT WORK. Konstantin is excellent and has skin in the game. This is a brilliant interview. Thank you. Thank you. I'm sharing.

@GenevieveOKelly

2 жыл бұрын

There is an episode on the Canadian Truckers, it's great

@youejtube7692

2 жыл бұрын

Freddy interviewed an Ottawa Trucker a couple of weeks ago.

@Koosharem

2 жыл бұрын

@@GenevieveOKelly Thank you GK! You are so right. I was so wrong. I watched the episode. I actually forgot that I watched it when it came out. The video was spot on. Freddie again handled it flawlessly. The trucker articulate and measured. I will take a break from commenting for a minute b/c obviously, I"m convoluted with stories - so many huge stories - happening simultaneously. Trying to sort it all out and plan. Thanks again Genevieve!

@theotheo7241

2 жыл бұрын

bottom line is, how can UK and the rest of the West claim that they want to fight for the preservation of the democracy outside their countries when Australia, New Zeeland, America, Canada have cracked down on their own people's rights and freedoms with so much violence ? When Canada has police on horses trampling an elderly indigenous woman just because she was part of a protest against the useless and mad vaccine mandates and totalitarian covid restrictions why would Canada even dare to think that it has the right to meddle in other countries' affairs??Same with Australian govt, don't we all know that their police used energy directed weapons against the protesters fighting the vaccine mandates? The heck with your finger wagging as if you are the depositary of truth and righteousness . Do you think Russia and China are not seeing what these globalists are doing to our countries?? Of course Russia is taking advantage when they see Trudeau, Biden, Boris, Macron, Merkel dividing their own people and good for Putin for using this opportunity.

@GenevieveOKelly

2 жыл бұрын

@@theotheo7241 completely agree

Yes exactly. I’m not wasting time with mainstream media at all, but am not knowledgeable enough about regional experts that can give a contextual and historical analysis about this situation. - It’s good to hear different perspectives, but his “West is Best”POV is a little over the top in light of how much the average person, (more so in the USA?) is backsliding into vulnerability due to massive debt & little security. We seem to be heading towards neo-feudalism. I’m think we need to watch that if we’re to maintain the balance of power.

@vallivergano239

2 жыл бұрын

The best solution, and has always been, to do your own research. I wish we all had the time to do study and research, in in the crazy times we live it. They rob us of the crazy lives which stop the abilities to question the spoon-fed narrative we're given. I'm afraid the US/EU/NATO are all in bed together. When the overthrowing of the Ukrainian government happened in 2014, Trump kept Ukrain at bay for the longest tims. And now? Boom 💥 Enter gun-slinging Joe. Because he is sick and tired of not having the two eastern D & L Russia is unfortunately going to be blamed for a whole host of problems by the West (And EU) Inevitably. Supply chain issues, cyber issues. Climate issues, more pandemics. It is coming. This man is correct. I like the Alice analogy. The two Eastern Ukraine states wanted to form part of Russia. Like Southern Crimea with so many historically Russian speaking individuals happy to do stay. Not to mention the Russian base there in the Black Sea. Russia won't give that up because of the base. The two states want the same recognition. Russia recently asked for security guarantees which were denied. Not even once, bu twice. Putin then said he would get them by __any other means necessary. #olitricks. Re-/think what you're told.

@DirectorHMAN

2 жыл бұрын

IMO Ukraine is a western puppet and Putin is claiming it back

@Bryt25

2 жыл бұрын

@@vallivergano239 Yes, you have to DIG for news now not take everything at face value. BBC is one of the worst now, under complete government control, hiding important detail we need to know. Some of them need to speak up.

@Bryt25

2 жыл бұрын

@@DirectorHMAN It hasn't always been a puppet of either side you know.

@DirectorHMAN

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bryt25 yes I'm aware, but it seems over the last 20 years Russia and US have been using it like a chess board

This conversation is like having 2 guys at a bar having some beers & yammering about geopolitics & maybe later head into soccer teams. I'm heading on... enjoy your beer.

"But you're of Russian heritage..." Just imagine, what a traitor he is!

USA invading countries for years and no one made anything, so what are you complaining about now?

@rtl6398

2 жыл бұрын

And when the US did it was always with other nations support. Now, no other nation is with Russia. What does that tell you?

@stevenrickett4333

2 жыл бұрын

So it’s all ok then? Where do you live. I’d like to come round with a gun and take your stuff. Or is that not ok?

Leaders with a vision, political intelligence, diplomatic skills, patriotism and high IQ are in short supply!

@Pilgrim06

2 жыл бұрын

And the irony, for us in the West, Putin ticks all of the boxes mentioned: political intelligence( one only has to follow his press conferences and listen to his answers), diplomatic skills, patriotism and high IQ….western leaders utter slogans without substance. Boris?Ursula? Kamala? Trudeau? And the biggest irony, the west is more occupied with political correctness whereby patriotism is now called ‘fascism’…the way we are going, one fine morning the Russian bears will be grazing in Normandy….

@KISTOVI

2 жыл бұрын

And tested negative ....on narcissism

@kuba2ve

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pilgrim06 I fully agree. That´s what´s going on. We in the west are doomed and when we wake up is going to be too late!

@bighands69

2 жыл бұрын

None of that is needed. Simple values and sticking them are all that is needed. The east since 2008 should have been armed to the heavens by now. Russia should be aware that the price for invasion would be extremely high even against a small country.

This conversation is 2 months old and it is still relevant. Parts are dated - we now know who will stand up to defend Ukraine: the Ukrainians. They are doing an amazing job and have my admiration. Regardless, Freddie and Konstantin are having an intelligent discussion and are asking hard questions. Thank you.

@bogmelochej

2 жыл бұрын

I am very sorry for brainwashed Ukrainians who serve as canon flesh for their corrupt governors. The world was amazed when high-educated Germans supported Nazis. Now I am amazed even more: the nation that suffered so much from Nazis had developed strong Neonazis sentiments.

Thank you Freddy and Konstantin for the open conversation..

If you continually kick the dog and then the dog bites you aren’t you responsible for getting bitten???

@Madonnalitta1

2 жыл бұрын

@Martin Baldwin-Edwards the west made promises to Russia after the cold war. We have broken many of these like the march westwood of military jurisdiction. That may be what the OP meant.

This young guy said it all when he said I'm not interested in Russia (and nato expansion). This is the problem with the west's thinking, they refuse to be interested in Russia's point of view and it is that anti Russian bias that is systemic that results in no useful diplomacy or compromise and so the west does have a responsibility for what us going on in the Ukraine. And how can you deny that Ukrainian forces have not been shelling and killing Ukranians in the 2 republics of Donetsk and Lugansk when it has been going on for 8 years!

@jascu4251

2 жыл бұрын

True. I must admit, currently living in Estonia part of me is wondering if the same thing would happen to us that is currently happening to Ukraine, but that could just be media bias its so difficult to know

@vladsikorsky7931

2 жыл бұрын

Selective bloody blindness. Accompanied by blatant sanctimony of the media suddenly discovering that there are people dying in Ukraine, pictures of which they can put on their freaking frontpages going as far forward as taking shoots from Donetsk and assigning it to the other side as they did with that poor father saying his goodbyes to evacuating wife and daughter. Now they see it, now they care, now they make a Pikachu face, like if cemeteries weren't growing in those rebel states for the entirety of eight years, like "alley of angels" does not exist, like they did not dehumanise their own citizens, called them terrorists while bombs were going off in Donetsk and not in Kiev, like they did not burn people alive, like they did not shoot rockets from jets at Donetsk condominiums and claimed that nothing happened or those pesky separatists bombed themselves, like if literal bloody nazis with swastikas tattooed all over their bodies and black sun and SS insignia on their colours weren't committing war crimes, like if people from Donetsk and Luhansk are not advising Charkov, Odessa, Kiev how to survive under artillery fire because after eight years they are experts in those kid of things. Like none of that happened and those weren't people in DNR and LNR and their suffering did not matter or exist for the western media and politicians, but 50 kilometres from there -- oh, those are people, their suffering matter. And those morons on the other side, now that Russia is advancing, use DNR and LNR people's suffering as an excuse for the suffering of the rest of Ukraine. Like if you can fix a broken glass by breaking a dozen more. What a mess, what a mess. You side bad, my side good. Humanity did not change even a bit.

@wyqtor

2 жыл бұрын

Funny how before those artificial 'republics' were created by Putin in 2014, everything was completely peaceful there.

@Truthispower701

2 жыл бұрын

@@wyqtor my reading is that these republics formed after the "coup" in 2014 and the subsequent decision to ban Russian speaking and Russian education. It makes sense to me that Russian speaking people in Ukraine would want some autonomy from a new leadership that wants to change their language. I read that they didn't want to become part of Russia (they might of but that would have been very controversial for them) but rather to have some powers to govern themselves (devolving of powers as in UK with Scotland and Wales). Why do you blame that on Putin?

I agree with every thing you say Konstantino.

I believe Kristina is saying it like it is . And most are not willing to give up whatever it takes

I said the same about Trump after he was elected. He was a nightmare to have as an ally but Putin and Ching Ping didn't know what to expect from one minute to the next. Compare with the geriatric and Obama who let their enemies know exactly what to expect from Day 1.

@alexanderyozzo

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah Ukraine sure is glad Biden is their ally now, instead of Trump that “nightmare” of ally he was.

@trinacriafitnesstrinacriaf5723

2 жыл бұрын

how was trump a nightmare?

@dereksbooks

2 жыл бұрын

@@trinacriafitnesstrinacriaf5723 he was a nightmare in PR because major politicians couldn't be seen as being too friendly with him. As an ally in a time of war, he would have been gladly welcomed by everyone. A person of strength doesn't need to fight. His strength is his deterrence, and Putin kept in his place.

@danielch6662

2 жыл бұрын

Mike, Trump is like the driver who is all over the street, changing lanes and turning without signalling. Stopping in the middle of the highway for no reason. Everybody gives him a wide berth. You may think that is nice. So much road all to yourself. BUT THAT IS HOW THE WORLD ENDS. Your utopia doesn't last because eventually other countries also decide they want leaders like that. Then we have the mother of all pile ups. Everybody clash, WW3.

@ajb7786

2 жыл бұрын

Shocked and surprised us all? This was one of the most predicted historical events ever. Everyone who is paying attention to reality instead of desperately trying to convince themselves that the ideology they've decided to worship while ignoring all realities that contradict the fantasies of said ideology rightfully, clearly, publicly, and logically predicted BEFORE Joe Biden became president that IF Biden became president he would hand over Afghanistan to the Taliban, Ukraine to Russia, Taiwan to China, and nuclear weapons to Iran, as well as making moves to destroy the value of the American dollar. None of what I'm saying is hindsight. This was well predicted by ALL right-leaning news sites in America. People didn't pay attention because they didn't want to, and now we're all going to pretend that none of this was predicted despite it all being archived on the internet.

But Klaus Schwab said back in something like 2017 that Putin was part of the World Economic Forum. So what the hell does that mean in terms of who is on what team and what game are they really playing here? Cause it seems like it's probably not what the people at home think it is.

@dark-o

2 жыл бұрын

Covid failed to destroy everything. We need more to be pushed to the Great R.

@tharanit4856

2 жыл бұрын

I too watched that video recently

@OkTxSheepLady

2 жыл бұрын

Could the timing be take attention from the Freedom Convoys popping up worldwide which put a roadblock in the great reset?

@thegeneralist7527

2 жыл бұрын

Schwab is the guy behind all this. He is selling us all out to global communism. Lol! They are playing to win and they are 10 moves ahead of us.

@leonorabarany5061

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, Putin is also a Young Global Leader... so who's pulling the strings?

I agree with you if Trump was President today world would be different. We have got in the West leaders weak, confused and lost. Russia will make history...

Mr. Konstantin, I have been thinking the exact same but tell no-one as they won't like to hear my thoughts! Thanks 👍

Unherd and Triggernometry are brilliant and it is fantastic to see you both together on the same show and hear your thoughts.

@1watsonwatson

2 жыл бұрын

Ukraine is a distraction. Has Russia really invaded Ukraine? The BBC says so, but just because that's what they say has happened does not mean that it has happened. Putin and NATO could be actors playing for the same team. Keep an open mind & don't give this nonsense a moment of your time, or an ounce of your energy kzread.info/dash/bejne/c4SMm7NmoqbVYLQ.html

@irenepeek3211

2 жыл бұрын

@@1watsonwatson How about Russ taking out u-s-bio-weapon-facilities-inukraine!?!🤔🧐. Thinkaboutit.

@LG_Psalm46

2 жыл бұрын

Both good at giving the other side of stories; however, both fail to see things through the lens of prophecy. Please bare with me and watch this link. kzread.info/dash/bejne/om1mtJOPZNXKlLA.html

@trackdusty

2 жыл бұрын

Slime, deception and more slime.

@powerbite92

2 жыл бұрын

Kisin is a Tribe member and they are all, in every country, calling for and trying to engineer huge bloodshed in Ukraine. He is massively lying and distorting Putin's speech. What his fellow tribe member Zelensky and his owner Kolominsky and NATO are doing is unnecessarily evil. Zelensky supports genocidal Neo Nazis in the Donbass and he evacuated his fellow hebrew Ukrainians while he banned all other different men from leaving, Zelensky is now arming women children and pensioners to fight with his new NATO weapons. Kisin is leaning on his people's ancestral hatred of Christian Slavs and bitterness over what happened with them losing power in 1937. "My wife is Ukrainian" - she wouldn't describe herself as "Ukrainian" though would she? And there is no way Why move the border eastwards against NATO? ha ha he says. The European plain is the entrance ramp for Napoleon and Hitler's armies. For Russia it has to be in their control, going back to their 27M War Dead. Kisin loves this foolhardy Western NATO escalation and the Western intelligence lies. "I hope Im wrong about Taiwan but I dont think I am"- no way China will invade Taiwan now, not possible. He is lying through his teeth. What arrogance and blood-thirst. NATO is already funnelling in its soldiers and pilots.These two posh boys are spewing rubbish. His propaganda here is a joke.

Ah - the cat’s out of the bag the minute these guys mentioned the gas pipeline to Germany. LOL. Thank you. Also for these so called “western values” of which you speak…. Did you guys just sleep thru the past two years?

@chomama1628

2 жыл бұрын

We have values as a people. The powers that be have been dismantling those values for decades.

@thetwinflamealchemist

2 жыл бұрын

@@chomama1628 agreed.

@Libertariun

2 жыл бұрын

@Martin Baldwin-Edwards The enlightenment.

@chomama1628

2 жыл бұрын

I was talking about values that anyone would hold dear no matter where you are in the world. Love of a spouse, love of your children, the family unit that builds society into a stable world. Love of a power higher than yourself. That is what we have lost as a society around the world and those that try are belittled by a selfish and uncaring world.

@chomama1628

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry if I broke it down to simply for the “ western” discussion. Didn’t know this was a think tank discussion.

I wonder how different this discussion would be if done today, two months later.

Brilliant, nothing less. You have a genuine approach to the subject and your guest is someone to listen carefully to.

The reasons behind everything is happening is so unnecessarily complicated that it would be nearly impossible to people to believe it. Not because they have not the ability to understand but because media had cauterized people's understanding. The only thing people should keep in mind is: nothing about this, is happening by chance, everything is carefully prepared, so positioning for any side will make you fall even deeper from the actual truth.

@tommygunn7745

2 жыл бұрын

yeah my wife want a 10 min sound bite to splain it. otherwise she will continue to believe / watch msm. Much of mankind is retarded

@daddycool228

2 жыл бұрын

I think you need to explain

@PaulineMitchell

2 жыл бұрын

You hit the nail on the head brilliant thank you. This is the message I tried to convey to friends and family but it just goes straight over their head

@blackswan4486

2 жыл бұрын

That’s the best explanation I’ve read about it yet. Even as someone who knows next to nothing about it. Perhaps because I know next to nothing about it.

@lr6477

2 жыл бұрын

Sheesh I said the same thing three times these last two days. Political theatre is all we'll get

I' m interrested in knowing what are the "good values" of the west from the guest' s perspective?

@tanyam5471

2 жыл бұрын

In his podcast KK said that he prefer wastern values with all negative sides over russian's. It's just better for him.

@dmsteele92831

2 жыл бұрын

Freedom of speech, right to bear arms, free and fair elections, term limits (not dictators), equal rights for women and minorities. Free markets/capitalism that can lift all boats (not these mega corporations that we now have) . Those are at least the ideals of the West even though there are now leaders who are acting like dictators...

@gicir19

2 жыл бұрын

@@dmsteele92831 exactly. In canada we are under a dictatorship.

@helendaniel2974

2 жыл бұрын

He's referring to such things as democracy, the rule of law, the right to a fair trial, freedom of speech and freedom of conscience, the right to own property, accountability of our elected representatives and our right to vote them out of office, freedom of the press, freedom of choice in how we bring up our children, protection of the rights of minorities etc etc. The reason why such ideas are so confusing for Westerners is because many of those values have been rejected. Over the past 40 years or so the West has been engaged in a collective act of self-harm, slowly dismantling every structure that once held us together and gave us our unique identity. 'A house divided against itself cannot stand'.

@gicir19

2 жыл бұрын

@@helendaniel2974 yes I know that very well. This is why I was interested to know from the invitee's perspective. But thanks for the message.

"Nobody in Western media has an hour to listen to a politician talking." Exactly. The standards of modern political journalism are abysmal. We used to have hour long political interviews with senior politicians, including the Prime Minister, in the 1980s. It's not just an issue of 'establishment narrative' but the entire sloppy and unintellectual climate in which we find ourselves. Anybody that actually takes the time to read serious books could see this coming a mile off. Putin has been testing the water for years and every time he did so told him he could get away with it. The only response he appreciated was when Erdogan shot down one of his planes. Analysis - Don't mess about with Turkey. It's the only language he understands. We go back to Stalin - "How many divisions does he (the Pope) have?" Putin is a completely unreconstructed Soviet (and like China it's all about power and privilege rather than ideology). Living in his bubble he now believes his own lies. Forget Putin, he is what he is. More importantly is our relationship with such a man. The U.K. Government has always sold itself to the highest bidder. It is absolutely sickening how desperate we have become for anything at the bottom line. There is a price to pay and we are now having to pay it. We have been so desperate to incorporate Russia and China, with all their wealth, into our system but they remain impervious and completely rotten.

@safi456

2 жыл бұрын

You are completely deluded and brainwashed by your own media and govt's lies. It's not Putin who is the villain in this story, its the West, whose media has gone into an overdrive of spin and lies to try and drown out the voices of truth, as always -- exactly as we saw with the Iraq "weapons of mass destruction", and Syria, and the plandemic, to name just a few recent examples. If you want to know exactly what is going on, and not just blindly follow your govt's lies, then I suggest you watch Oliver Stone's documentary Ukraine on Fire, where some decent, honest Americans have themselves exposed their govt's and the West's stinking lies and criminal activities w/ re: to Ukraine. If Russia did not exist, there would be no system of checks and balances on this earth. The only superpower would devour and destroy everything in its path, as it has been doing for a very long time now. The Edward Snowdens of this world would be nipped in the bud, as Assange has been. That's what this is all about, an attempt to destroy Russia once and for all. After that, they go for China's jugular. All in pursuit of a new world order with only one ruling govt.

Where did Freddy dig this guy up?

Trump was strong in a sense of opposing the generals in Pentagon. Before election, it was discussed how USA will go to war with North Korea. Trump won election, flew to the border between North and South Korea and made peace. Who remembers this? Generals got really pissed off and Trump had to go.

The “Russian man bad” narrative is just so predictable

IN CONCLUSION: WE NEED LEADERS THAT "ARE NOT IGNORANT" THAT ARE MORE OPEN, THAT ARE NOT HARD HEADS.

Professor John Mearsheimer's talks on KZread give better clarity than msm narrative. Very intelligent and very balanced.

@vibefrequencyable

2 жыл бұрын

Started listening 2 mos ago.

Sorry to say, I agree: this wouldn't have happened under Trump

@sonya2916

2 жыл бұрын

My question is why?Do you you know?He didnt explain that very well.Did he gain Putin's trust.I recently read that the ex Chancellor of Austria Sabastian Kurz was a Trump supporter.Now he's long gone

@zelda1966

2 жыл бұрын

@@sonya2916 because trump was harder on Russia than previous presidents. Despite what CNN etc claimed, trump put the hardest sanctions on Russia and it was actually Biden who lifted the sanctions on the new pipeline nordstream2

@sonya2916

2 жыл бұрын

@@zelda1966 Thanks..it's a start. I'll Google it..especially about the whole sanction thing.

@zelda1966

2 жыл бұрын

@@sonya2916 yeah and I'm no trump fan. To say the least.

@sonya2916

2 жыл бұрын

@@zelda1966 Im not a politic fan..I'm just trying to figure things out..There is so much out there. And then I'll go back to my own understanding of what i have learnt and focus back on what it is to do in my own little life to make anything around me a better place.Anyways God bless Zeezee..thanks again☮🌈🍀🕊

Put it this way- who has been lying about wuflu and jabs and tracking apps for 2 years? They are also lying about this.

This Kisin guy makes mi literally sick. I watched this interview twise because the first time I had this sinking filling that something was wrong. I believe that this interview deserves a thorough expert examination because I believe there are subtle messages in it. There is something off with this guy and may be I am paranoid, but in times like this it is better to be paranoid than naive.

@adda25

2 жыл бұрын

Such as? I also think he’s neither here or there. Deliberately creating confusing points

@MrPeetmura

2 жыл бұрын

@@adda25 I cannot quite put my finger on it. He is pushing the statement that he embrases the Western values fully, yet he is making a chilling statement about the refugies from Ukrain (being an economic immigrant himself), the way he evaids the question where he stands regarding Putin's claims made in the one-hour spreach, the line of questions he puts after 17:36, which sound more like messages than questions. The statement that countries like Russia want prosperity and power for their people, what Westerns have? Come on! He is an economic immigrant! I watched the interview for the third time as I an answering you and I am not an expert but the impersonality, the robot-like lack of any emotion, his accent, whech is nearly perfect (and I know how difficult it is for any Russian to speack any other language without a heavy accent)... Maybe it is Trigonometry...

Why should the rest of the world continue to be dominated by the west? Russia and China and many other nations around the globe also have the right to be prosperous. It doesn’t have to be at the cost of others. To me the presumption that Russia and China want to ‘usurp’ the west’s dominance is the only view in this conversation that rankled. The stranglehold that western nations have over the world economy is what is distressing for the remaining nations. This is eventually going to end, I hope, with there being a more level playing field for other economies.