man, what got me wasnt this scene. but when you go back to Fortemps Manor and Edmot gives that *incredibly* broken "My... son..." dudes, I bawled. Just straight up ugly cried.

@thedarkness490

3 ай бұрын

Yep some times it not the death that get a tear it the aftermath when it sinks in and can bring a player to their knees

@bipedalanimeskull

3 ай бұрын

same it's always the aftermath of a death that get me

@boanoah6362

3 ай бұрын

As a famous person once said: "There are no words for a parent that must bury their child." One of the many times in FFXIV I've cried and I still tear up whenever I see that scene.

@filipvadas7602

3 ай бұрын

That scene kicks my heart in the d!ck *every time*

@kitsunehanyou09

3 ай бұрын

Agreed, I watched it in both ENG and JP. RIP Stephen Critchlow, his work as Count Edmont will be remembered especially for that scene.

Props to the TTS massagers. They all knew exactly what they were doing. But what gets me the most is not just the Vault but the father’s scene right afterwards. Really drives the knife in.

@lizardizzle

3 ай бұрын

lol "massagers"

Gotta love the fact that they went back fairly recently and amended this cutscene to make it even more clear that we couldn't save him and to give more evidence to the sorts of things that curative magics can and can't restore.

@IKMcGwee

3 ай бұрын

Yeah Aphi's line was added in later just to make sure you knew that healing wouldn't work

@ToxisFaux

3 ай бұрын

my only gripe with the change is they took out Haurchefants line in the beginning where he says "we are not to late my friend!" I know it doesn't really add or loose anything but it still catches me off guard when I hear Estinien say something instead.

@SNAFUq

3 ай бұрын

Glad they added that. Nothing more frustrating than my White Mage butt sitting there like "Oh I guess you die". TBF they do do a better job of acknowledging you as a healer later on.

@zarkento4881

3 ай бұрын

Given how the mechanic works in the fight too...

@AzureKyle

3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, they also heavily toned down how thirsty he was for the WoL as well.

The angel in chat told you to turn off sounds and emote only for this dungeon for no particular reason. The vampire demons in chat made you stream for 12 hours and get nosebleeds just to see your boy die yeah.

Welcome to The Trauma (Savage). You are now one of us!

@Dubrichius

3 ай бұрын

Man I can't wait until he gets to The Burn (Savage).

"A smile better suits a hero" As he dies smiling. Amen.

Koe: "Nah, you're good." Alphinaud: "It's no good"

I played Scholar up until I hit this quest. I was so upset after this happened, since I was a healer that couldn't save my friend, that I swapped to Black Mage at that point and spent all of HW and Stormblood as one in mourning. It's been years, and to this day I've never played Scholar again.

@calprey

3 ай бұрын

There's no better therapy than casting your daily explosion!

@castoputa

3 ай бұрын

I was a blm, but I switched to leathercrafter, so I could make luggage from the skin of Thordan.

@ericbright1742

3 ай бұрын

I went the opposite direction. I was Pugilist/Monk all the way to Heavensward. When I hit level 60, it was around patch 5.5, so I decided to pick up Gunbreaker. The first dungeon I ever tanked? The Vault. "It should have been me." I've been a Gunbreaker ever since. I ended up making that Survivor's Guilt part of my WoL's story. So much so that "I couldn't save them" is his *Soul's* Core Wound.

@Abyssionknight

3 ай бұрын

@ericbright1742 Yeah it was a narrative thing for me too. She realized that healing and shielding is reactive and has limits. If she had been stronger and more aggressive, a dead enemy can't hurt anyone. Took until she thought she'd lost everyone in the lead up to shb for her to leave the black mage's path of pure destruction, instead focusing on dancer and rdm. Rdm a balance between her healing roots and destructive period, and dnc because of the understanding she doesn't have to carry the burden alone, but can work with and support her allies so together they can achieve even greater things. No clue where dawntrail will lead my wol.

Good job chat, you managed to save Koe from spoilers. Proud of y'all!

5:16 is the look of a man who's never gonna forget that line

After that I did the Dark Knight storyline because it felt so right to be so VENGEFUL and damn did that enhanced the experience

Heavensward, for me, is a story of grief. People die. People suffer. The Dragonsong War has caused so much pain. We end that cycle, but lives are given to do so.

I love that he was going to end the stream after 12 hours of streaming before this dungeon but we got him to do it.

It's been years since I experienced that moment in Heavensward so I didn't expect to still tear up seeing it again, guess that's the power of good story telling and characterisation, it sticks with you.

Pain shared is pain lessened. Though a smile...

5:45 I wonder if the Skip Police has already found this guy. This bloody monster skipped straight to Stormblood.

@offender0

3 ай бұрын

Skipping ARR - Understandable, it's a real slog. Skipping HW - Firing Squad. Skipping HW but then enjoying the story at Stormblood - Crucifixion is too good for this person.

@nicholaswhite7056

3 ай бұрын

Bro shared that right away on stream with a bunch of people, couldn't have gotten that outta me if you went full guantanamo on my ass.

@barbatosrex1087

3 ай бұрын

it's probably a joke, but I've seen worse Once followed a sprout streaming the game. I can *almost* tolerate him not feeling anything when bro died, but when the late-comers asked him how he felt about Haurchefant, he said he didn't care if he died because he and everyone else is "useless" unlike his character, forgets it moments later, and had the face to say "what did i say? oh whatever i said i probably meant it, chat"

Now its time to watch BeneG. :)

Welcome to Heavensward!

I remember when I originally did this dungeon that it just made me *hate* Alphinaud more because originally there was no attempt to use healing magic and I'm just sitting like "Heal him you stupid bastard can you not do a single thing right at all?!"

@caleb4717

3 ай бұрын

I retrospect, this may actually have been where a lot of my original distain for Alphy came from. He was annoying up to that point but not so bad.

And now you understand why we all tear up when we are told that a smile better suits a hero. Little bit of trivia for you, Koe: that scene where Alphinaud was attempting to heal Harchefaunt wasn't originally there. It was added in (I think) around the same time as when they put the 3.0 dungeons under Duty Support because there were so many people that didn't see the logic of a WoL playing healer just casting Cure on them when - in truth - nothing could have been done to save him.

@theredknight1757

3 ай бұрын

If you play the EX version of HW's final boss, this attack is present and applies a debuff that prevents healing. That explained why he couldn't be healed. That being said, it was a very obscure way to give that knowledge so, as you pointed out, they reworked this cutscene to just flat-out say it now.

@spiritmuse

3 ай бұрын

I think the main reason he was added is simply that because of the duty support system he is now part of your raiding party instead of being off somewhere else, so they now had to account for his presence in the scene. That it makes for a good opportunity to explain that Haurchefant couldn't be healed is a happy coincidence.

@ericbright1742

3 ай бұрын

In the EX version, if someone is KO'd to that spear attack, it's a party wipe and reset. Because that person wasn't just knocked out.

there is a special hell for cut scene skippers, when you pass from this world you will be sent to a limbo where you will have to watch every single cut scene youve ever skipped on repeat and will be unskippable for all eternity.

Gets me fuming when people say the story stinks because i know they skip cutscenes like this.

ah yes, the Marineford of FF14. We must let the sprouts experience the same feelings we did. They must understand the love of this game we share!! With that in mind, PLEASE keep doing this to streamers xD

It's nosebleed season. Woke up to blood stains on my pillow today 😭

I audibly went "oh no" seeing the title

A smile better suits a hero

Ah yes the dungeon that made grown people cry. And i'm not speacking for my self 😢😢 your crying.

there it is!

This is why the dark knight story is so important, and why i recommend everyone do it.

Koeppium would be the best word to describe this video...

Ah...god...it's that pain again...

Man, even watching this knowing what was happening still wrecks me. The feels this game inspires from the cutscenes and the music. There's still music in this game that just -hearing- it makes me tear up.

Very accurate, about the despair.

what hurts more is that if you talk to haurchefaunt at any point after meeting him the first time, he says something along the lines of do not run blind into battle, you will only be met by your demise.

A smile better suits a hero.

@1:53 grats gg

But remember Koe.. a Smile Better Suits a Hero! Always o7

Ah a fellow nosebleed "Enjoyer" a man after my own heart. I've had both nostrils cauterized several times, and still get serious nosebleeds NONSTOP at some times of year.

Maybe the background is some sort of joke but why does it look like he's streaming from the cubicle of a Huntington Bank?

I mean... its true... Though I didnt skip anything, some parts of the story still get me - and this is one of them. Never gets easier, even after four years...

I used to get arbitrary nosebleeds all the time when I was younger, every summer. I don't know if it was related to the heat, or change in air pressure, or what. It sure was annoying, hanging my head over the sink just waiting for it to stop. Then I'd try to clean up, and -- oh! Touched my nose the wrong way, I guess it's Nosebleed Time again for another 15 minutes! But you know, human beings are so intelligently designed, created in God's image, it's all according to the divine plan. Nothing in the universe can work itself out unless I have this nosebleed.

What happened to your work attite lol

@katmeerkats

3 ай бұрын

it was casual friday I think

It's actually worse then it used to be, because alphi trying to heal him was added to the scene later

Yo yo yo what’s up dude

welcome to ff14 welp!

The number of bodies these expansions claimed smh. A good number of them were my favorites too

@Ausdrake

3 ай бұрын

That's how they get that emotional payoff, by making a great character just to kill them off. Writers can be cruel sometimes lol

@caleb4717

3 ай бұрын

*SPOILER* Moenbryda still hurts. And then they brought it back and made it all hurt again in EW.

@Ausdrake

3 ай бұрын

@@caleb4717 No offense but, Moenbryda was a plot device, a character introduced and killed off in the same episode. We barely had time to like her to truly mourn her passing. If she _still hurts_ then you're a far too sensitive soul for dramatic fiction and have my sympathy. The only thing that truly hurts, is the pain Urianger feels. Much like how the (arguably) worst part of Haurchebro's passing was the pain his father felt afterwards.

@caleb4717

3 ай бұрын

@@Ausdrake Yes. You restated my point. Congratulations.

I'm a paladin. I'll always use that shield.

@Coolio_Ash

3 ай бұрын

Same with "house fortemps knight" title.

You kept me here to see my boy die!? >.>

RTD. Real-Time Deppresion

Koe was Koe-ping hard here (I'm Sorry)

Welcome to FFXIV, its only going to get worse.

I never really got into Harchefaunt, mostly because I was too busy angrily trying to unlock HW so I could play Machinist. And when I did this dungeon, someone spoiled it with "Now you get to watch THAT cutscene" and I immediately knew a character was gonna die, so I've spent my entire FF14 career just picking apart how stupid the death scene is. I always love watching new sprouts get to it and become heartbroken though. Welcome to Heavensward! ;)

You cut the father's speech?! Shame!

Wow 2 nosebleeds and they didn't even get the guy to the hospital ? Does this office even follow health and safety guidelines ? Koe should get a hazard pay or else he should live this office job and go back into being a full time streamer independently

The one man I am still pissed that they killed and never brought him back to life, meanwhile we did that multiple times in Endwalker with other characters..

@sparemobius7430

3 ай бұрын

can I interest you in the ultimate version? The one that asks the question "what if our boy lived?"

@Shiirow

13 күн бұрын

if you are talking about the end... they are not killed, their aether is dispersed and reconstituted, then returned to their original form.

Just Wait Until Papalymo Dies By Trying To Seal A Primal!

@potatohildy

3 ай бұрын

As it happens, that was yesterday

PLEASE LOOK FORWARD TO IT

At the end there “skipped arr and hw cutscenes but i like to watch” guess whoever that dork was shouldn’t have skipped the cutscenes then i mean why do they even care? They didn’t care before

@Water-vk1vs

3 ай бұрын

Its like when zuko shows up at the end of avatar to the team we’re all like wtf is this guy doing here 💀 people are so weird

@Shiirow

13 күн бұрын

these sorts will be the first to claim a story sucks because they skipped all the important information leading them to not be invested in the outcome. Like someone who buys a book, and just reads the final chapter then goes "Meh, the story was mid".

Xbox version of final fantasy online is down people don't understand why spread the word

A smile better suits a hero.