Let’s be honest, seeing house Lannister get put in its place is always a treat.

@randomcenturion7264

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. Arrogant little shits. Glad they're practically extinct now.

@jakuboledzki6499

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, ever since the Field of Fire the Lannisters were wealthy, but they were declining in reputation with the culmination in Tywin's Father who was a total joke. Thwn Tywin came and Lannisters were serious people again.

@masterplokoon8803

Жыл бұрын

@@jakuboledzki6499 the Lannisters were feared and respected for most of their history Tywin's father wasn't a culmination of anything, he was a weak man and bad lord, many houses have those kind of lords from time to time.

@Vwctor

Жыл бұрын

Yess

@derekflores3089

Жыл бұрын

@@masterplokoon8803 Nah, they were powerful and wealthy, but they didn't get their sinister reputation until Tywin

And this is why Lord Beesbury was 100% sure Viserys didn’t change his mind about Rhaenyra as heir

@azra2263

Жыл бұрын

I hate criston for what he did to lord beesbury. Beesbury was the only one there that had honor and fin go along with alicent and Ottos Games. Can’t believe I liked cole on the beginning. His obsession and later hatred for rhaenyra are psychotic

@BlackDiamond2718

10 ай бұрын

@@azra2263incel even though he was right about one thing. She ruined his honor and her own for one night and saw nothing of it.

@azra2263

10 ай бұрын

@DVillagomez240 I mean true be he has free will. Like she didn't ruin anything he Ruined his own honor. She didn't rape him ?? Also having mistresses and concubines was a normal part of royal life. Even for women (albeit it was much more looked down upon, it still happened in most royal families in real life). So for rhaenyra thats not even such a big Deal if no one knew about it. Her Moral Compass is different to ours (tbh all royals especially in asoiaf have a screwed moral compass). But for cole to run around and be like "she Ruined my honor" is laughable. Dude she didn't raped you, you were a willing participant

@finnheisenheim8274

8 ай бұрын

​@@azra2263Crispin Cole being crispy.

@persephonehades7547

5 ай бұрын

@@BlackDiamond2718 "Ruined his honor?" A man 1.5x her age, a tower over her in full armor who should have the sense to know damn well she couldn't report him for not coming to bed with her while she was not of right mind? Pff...

Visery’s may have been a kind man; but he’s still a dragon underneath. When he put his foot down; he meant it. RIP King Viserys I

@sirgwan5768

Жыл бұрын

"There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man", or rather in this case, the anger of a gentle dragon

@donaldduck3078

Жыл бұрын

A kind man? I name him fool, he caused a civil war that would end up kill the dragons his house needed.

@shamcaster6087

Жыл бұрын

He's a great father only to Rhaenyra but other than that he's nothing but an irresponsible individual who laid the foundation to a destruction.

@dannyboy4140

Жыл бұрын

@@donaldduck3078 Not entirely his fault though. Daemon,Rhaenyra and others fucked up just as much as he did.

@dannyboy4140

Жыл бұрын

@@shamcaster6087 He was famous for being generous, kind, and diplomatic. Most of the lords and commonfolk loved him. A rare site when a ruler is not consumed by power or greed. Rather he is obssessed with keeping the peace but perhaps to a fault. He was far better than the worse rulers kings landing ever had but also far worse than the best rulers the sat on the iron throne.

"And when would I be doing that?" I love it. He said "Go on, tell THE KING what he's supposed to do."

@johnsham7568

Жыл бұрын

It was his foolish obstinance in the face of tradition that brought down his house so I would say the KING chose poorly.

@kuchikimakoto

Жыл бұрын

@@johnsham7568 It was the king's good will to a house of traitors that did such thing.

@Red_Race_Nation

Жыл бұрын

@@johnsham7568 it was the misunderstanding at his death bed that caused the war. Everyone knew damn well who was next to rule but alicent apparently has no idea her ex bff has a son named the same as hers like it's all just one massive misunderstanding.

@Ares99999

Жыл бұрын

@@Red_Race_Nation Actually false. The Greens would have plotted the coup no matter what, as Alicent found out to her dismay.

@fated0858

11 ай бұрын

​​@@johnsham7568just because something is tradition does not mean things can't change.

Viserys seems really easygoing and laidback until it comes to Rhaenyra. The ferocity he shows when protecting her is next level. It's almost impossible to believe that Alicent really thought even for a second Viserys would ever want Aegon as king over her.

@egooidios5061

Жыл бұрын

And this is why it should be crucial to keep your own house in line. Maybe having them all together and reminding each of his kids what is what, and that they are after all one family, and how they must leave everyone else out of their family because eventually only dragons matter.....it would not come to a schism. But things like that happened in real life and so...

@alessaross3559

Жыл бұрын

If only he had been willing to put Alicent in her place, the Dance Of Dragons needn't have happened.

@joshpowell1045

Жыл бұрын

@@alessaross3559if only he had executed Otto

@eiji862

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I feel like she was just looking for an excuse rather than truly believing that Viserys would just change his mind on a whim.

@georgepaul1613

Жыл бұрын

Alicent needed a good Robert Baratheon backhand to the cheek

Probably the most loved character to sit the Iron Throne in the whole franchise. Well fucking done, Paddy. You deserve all the awards.

@thalmoragent9344

Жыл бұрын

Jaeherys was dope to be fair

@manthe3711

Жыл бұрын

I still prefer Robert.

@ironsideeve2955

Жыл бұрын

Miscast actor

@jacobdarling1524

Жыл бұрын

@@ironsideeve2955 I will have your tongue for that

@napoleonsolo5929

Жыл бұрын

@@jacobdarling1524 He can keep his tongue...😉

I love how Jason’s beard and hair style actually give him a subtle lion’s appearance, as if he’s trying to directly imitate his house’s sigil.

@BrettSmashy

Жыл бұрын

I never really thought about it, but you’re right. I like how Tyland / Jason actually look like they could be distant relatives of Jamie and Cersei. Good casting.

@toy5965

Жыл бұрын

Lmao

@ffarkasm

Жыл бұрын

According to GRRM, by this time not only dragons lived in the Crownlands, but also lions lived in the Westerlands.

@alexanderb5726

Жыл бұрын

@@ffarkasm Lions lived on for far longer in the Westerlands did they not? Tywin's father Tytos was attacked by a lioness while hunting and was saved by the kennelmaster whom he elevated thus creating house Clegane.

@ffarkasm

Жыл бұрын

@@alexanderb5726 exactly. Though "far longer" might be a matter of debate. If we consider that Westerosian lions died out about a century later than the dragons (which were introduced there by the Targaryens roughly 200 years before the event of HotD), it seems to be a mere coincidence that lions died out in the same time period, after being a deteminating part of the local ecosystem as an apex predator for probably _several hundred thousand_ years. Nevertheless I'm not entirely sure evolution and ecology in GRRM's world is that similar to that of ours.

I love how Viserys beat a Lannister at their own game, subtle implications with sharp authority underneath.

@angelaholmes8888

Жыл бұрын

Yeah love viserys for doing that

@arturosiew2043

Жыл бұрын

Lions maybe king of beast but lion cannot beat a dragon

@SuperHongTay

Жыл бұрын

No that was Tywin's game. And Tyrion adopted it after that. Before Tywin, the Lannisters were actually known to be exploited for their soft and kind tempreament. Perhaps Tywin adopted this approach from the detractors of his hoise

@greasybumpkin1661

Жыл бұрын

This is the Lannisters at their weakest, they are soft summer lords who are tucked away from the problems of westeros on top a large deposit of gems. The Lannisters we are used to seeing is thanks to Tywin, and we also get Tyrion who is basically a reincarnation of Lan the clever.

@hevnervals

Жыл бұрын

Lannisters at this time weren't conniving. They were rich and kind of stupid.

Viserys may be one of the most timid of Targaryen kings, but he has his inner dragon alive and well. It just takes it to growl and even a lion tucks it's tail. People seem to forget he's the last person alive who rode Balerion the Dread. And given who his previous riders were, he didn't accept weaklings.

@LordJeremy94

Жыл бұрын

Thank god someone mentioned this...

@sweetpotatofries99

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if Vizzy T figured taking Godzilla flying wasn't for him. Maybe a type B guy like him didn't care for riding a nuclear warhead with a mind of its own.

@fistinyourface7053

Жыл бұрын

@@sweetpotatofries99 it's implied that a dragon can have mamy riders, but the rider cannot have more than 1 dragon.

@ischeele7203

Жыл бұрын

He's a people pleaser at times and avoids conflict, but I wouldn't say he ever acts timid

@sgshumblecrumb6046

Жыл бұрын

@@sweetpotatofries99 Balerion was very old and near death when Viserys flew him. Viserys I actually don't find that timid. I think he was pretty balanced and effective in fact. Every king makes mistakes and the show happens to focus heavily on some of his biggest. The Targaryens were always a ticking time bomb anyway.

He kept digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself the more he talked. Lmao

@Bahamut3525

Жыл бұрын

He started well enough, but destroys his entire credibility.

@VDA19

7 ай бұрын

It's not his fault, no one expected Rhaenyra to inherit over Aegon@@Bahamut3525

@finnheisenheim8274

3 күн бұрын

​@@Bahamut3525 Reminds me of when Jaime tried negotiating for his and Brienne's lives. He succeeded with keeping Brienne safe but bit off more than he could chew and ended up losing his hand.

I like how Viserys starts annoyed but bemused at first, but as Jason assumes that he'll be replacing Rhaenyra with Aegon the fire in Viserys heart flares, and the dragon in him stirs angrily.

@BrettSmashy

Жыл бұрын

The Lannisters never did learn to avoid angering a dragon! Did they? 😉

@twinsen1949

Жыл бұрын

The guy was the last one to ride Balerion the Black Dread, but... he was definitely a rider of Balerion nonetheless.

@thalmoragent9344

Жыл бұрын

@@BrettSmashy To be fair, the Lannisters DID ally and aid the Targaryens multiple times in their history. Wasn't till Tywin came that they suddenly Rebelled against the House of the Dragon to end it

@hubbabubba2570

Жыл бұрын

@@thalmoragent9344 Jason's father supported Visery's claim.

@rickstalentedtongue910

Жыл бұрын

It was a fair assumption.

This was the first scene I truly began to be impressed by Viserys' inner strength. He told it how it is out in the open and stuck to his word on Rhaenyra's ascension.

@mihaimax2180

Жыл бұрын

He took Alicent to the campfire minutes later and cried to her about his decision tho

@dbix11

Жыл бұрын

He had to be drunk to muster the courage tho

@Destroyer120296

Жыл бұрын

@@mihaimax2180 Thats part of what makes him human and a good character imo He is unsure and in general dislikes violence and conflict. He can put his foot down but he dislikes doing it

@coldfire39

4 ай бұрын

He humiliated another house humbling themselves to their king. This doesn’t take courage. This is arrogance and un-diplomatic.

@andrewprice8820

4 ай бұрын

@@coldfire39yeah I mean Lannister was the one who arrogant, assuming he was going to name Aegon heir and saying that to the king’s face.

Do you have dragons to offer? Idk why but I love that line.

@BrettSmashy

Жыл бұрын

Me too! The delivery is perfect and makes me LOL!

@TV-ge3uj

7 ай бұрын

Comparing GOT Viserys to this guy is like comparing Aegon the Unworthy to Aegon the Conqueror.

@ryankwon8785

6 ай бұрын

This could also allude to Golden Dragons (the biggest monetary currency in Westeros).

@TV-ge3uj

6 ай бұрын

@@ryankwon8785 Yes, that's obviously what Jason Lannister meant. But Viserys took advantage of his ambiguous phrasing.

@Byenie0912

2 ай бұрын

Jason should have went with targaryen princes and princesses from rhae rhae's marriage with him. could have been a good conversation with the king

Tywin Lannister would be shaking his head seeing his ancestor make himself fool like that

@Person57586

Жыл бұрын

Tywin himself was bowing to targaryans offered his daughter and got rejected the same way

@ty814

Жыл бұрын

@@Person57586 😅😅🤣🤣🤣

@generalcaesar3477

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention Aerys II enjoyed fueling rumours his relationship with Joanna Lannister was less than appropriate for years before that.

@thedoctor4327

Жыл бұрын

I can’t decide if Tywin would be more embarrassed by Jason’s inept politicking or his father Tytos’ general incompetence.

@euanskii2050

Жыл бұрын

Lannisters!...*throws deer entrails to the ground* don't act like fools!

The tragedy is that by insisting Rhaenyra be his heir over Aegon he's putting her in mortal danger and doesn't know the nobles will refuse to accept her as queen after his death. Seeing him fiercely defend her because of how much he loves her... it's heartbreaking.

@mihai000000

Жыл бұрын

the tragedy is that as much as we like the lannisters put in their place , jason lannister was right in this case. Naming aegon his heir would have saved both his house and the kingdom.

@justinbowers2749

Жыл бұрын

If he had just followed the Ruling of Jaeharys I in the Great Council of 101 AC that stated the male takes precedence over the female line, the whole Dance of Dragons would have been avoided.

@ragnabolt683

Жыл бұрын

@@justinbowers2749 Rhaenyra was just as capable of ruling. She was quite good at it prior to the Hightowers emptying the treasury. Besides, that’s not how fate would have it. The Prince That Was Promised would come from their line.

@rimanm6934

Жыл бұрын

@@ragnabolt683 yeah but Viseris forgot he got throne by very same logic. His sister Rhaenys is first in line but his granfather Jahaeris made Viseris king simple cause he male. Viseris stupidity destroyed house of dragon. And if he loved her so much why he didnt married her to Deamon to begin with and name Deamon his heir? Lords would accept Deamon as king. Only reason why he was pushing Rheanira was out of sentimentality to his dead wife Aema. You cant allow to be sentimental if you king. Good king should make decisions out of pragmatism. Aegon should have replaced Rhaenyra same as Viseris replaced Rhaenys as heir.

@fatheranthony4pope

Жыл бұрын

@@justinbowers2749 the Great Council didn't state that male takes precedence. It set a precedent that a male would inherit first, but it did not state it. It is the main interpretation of the Council's decision though.

Paddy Considine is such a great actor.

@BrettSmashy

Жыл бұрын

I wasn't sure he was going to pull off Viserys, but I'm beyond thrilled with pretty much all the actors in HOTD

2:03 What a smile at the end of that. God Paddy killed it in this role. Although the guy playing Jason Lannister also did a tremendous job with the few scenes he had. If you close your eyes, you can totally hear Tyrion's tone and speaking patterns - it's clear Peter Dinklage's performance influenced his.

@nicksmithnutmilk

6 ай бұрын

This guy played Ser Hugh of the Vale in GOT season 1 😂😂

@phousefilms

2 ай бұрын

@@nicksmithnutmilk And the reporter who tried to get Michael to speak in the"Halloween"restart.

@nicksmithnutmilk

2 ай бұрын

@@phousefilms he played Torstein in Vikings too

@Mink-yu8nu

Ай бұрын

@@nicksmithnutmilk And Haakon Chevalier in Oppenhiemer.

Before this show, his predecessor was my favourite Targaryen. But thanks to the outstanding performance from Paddy throughout, Viserys now takes that top spot for me 😊

@StoicSurvivor99

Жыл бұрын

King Viserys is the prodigy of Jaehaerys Targaryen. Viserys acquired so much influence from his beloved grandfather.

2:05 omg that smile. "I'm smiling now. Get the fuck out of here right now or I might not be smiling anymore."

Out of all the Kings we’ve witnessed in this show Viserys was definitely my favorite.

@AlexanderofThebes

Жыл бұрын

And to imagine one of the most despicable and unworthy Targaryen was named after this great man

@flaviusaetiuspt

Жыл бұрын

Nah, Bobby B was cooler :)

@targonyt7258

Жыл бұрын

The best king of House Targaryen was Jaehaerys the First. The rest of the kings are either weak, stupid, insane, cruel. It just so happened with Jaehaerys that around him in his time there were strong and reliable people who supported his rule.

@6whiteshadows

Жыл бұрын

@@targonyt7258 Definitely not. There have been as many good and wise Targaryens as cruel, insane and weak Targaryens.

@targonyt7258

Жыл бұрын

@@6whiteshadows example?

I can't believe Viserys murdered a Lannister without even getting out of his chair

Viserys and Dany have that same “That’s cute.” smirk.

@CainEverest

Жыл бұрын

Its genetic

To be realistics, Jason had to say `Golden Dragons´ when Viserys asked him if he had dragons to offer. House Targaryen had enough flying dragons at this moment but more golden dragons are always welcomed to the Iron Throne.

@BrettSmashy

Жыл бұрын

He should have. It would have been funny, but I don’t think he had big enough 🥜!

@ryankwon8785

6 ай бұрын

Ironic since the Lannisters supported the Greens whose sigil is a Golden Three-headed dragon.

@atlaskaiser9951

10 күн бұрын

He would ve lose his tongue for that, challenging the king in a way of telling him you are poor, changing the subject was the best move

@altair227

8 күн бұрын

Knowing viserys he wouldn't cut out his tongue but he would blast him for it and reject his gift and belittle him in front of people. ​@@atlaskaiser9951

You can definitely feel Tyrion's wit, Cersei's vanity, and Jaime's smug confidence

I think Tywin just warged into the past to say this to his ancestor "Lannisters dont act like fools"

@angelaholmes8888

Жыл бұрын

Yes indeed 🤣😆😂

@mst3KGf

Жыл бұрын

"I thought my kids could be dumbasses sometimes, but YOU..."

This episode was where I really started liking Viserys. I was worried he was going to replace Rhaenyra for Aegon but here he stands his ground. And he looks so annoyed at Jason for even suggesting that. I love how he is still diplomatic but you can tell from the tone in his voice it translates more to "Thank you for the gift, now get out of my sight." And you see the look on Jason's face, he knows he stepped in it hard. Needed to shut up and just walk away.

This is what happens when a lion comes face to face with a dragon

Viserys became immediately annoyed once he heard Jason's voice. 😂

@BrettSmashy

Жыл бұрын

Well, of course! Lannisters have that effect. 🤣

@TV-ge3uj

7 ай бұрын

Who wouldn't?

He has to win an Emmy for his performance this season. He's been incredible to watch.

" Do you have any dragons to offer? " " Only gold ones, your grace. " *Puts sunglasses on.*

@gooby214

4 ай бұрын

If Martin wrote the dialogue

I love that, before it turns to anger, Paddy’s expression is “the fuck is this guy talking about?”

0:53 Look at Otto. Looking at their conversation from the distance.

I love how the Lannister just keeps digging his grave deeper and deeper 😂😂😂😂😂

@involuntaryanalysis

Жыл бұрын

Now we all know where Cercie got it from.

@mst3KGf

Жыл бұрын

This episode, it only takes one scene for the Lannister twins to show that Tyland is the serious, smart one and Jason is the strutting dumbass with more ego than brains. It's going to get him killed someday. ;)

Paddy did a fantastic job with this character, I hope he gets awarded for his performance.

@BrettSmashy

Жыл бұрын

So do I! I sincerely DGAF about Oscars or Emmys and haven’t for some time, but this year, I truly hope this show and Paddy Considine get rewarded for an amazingly well written, acted, directed show. If not, WTF is all that BS for?

This scene and the last one in the Throne room are solid proof that Viserys I was a true dragon. He just chose the right moments to show his teeth and breathe fire. After all, he was Balerion's last rider before he died. Would the Black Dread choose him if he was not a true dragon?

@gerardjagroo

Жыл бұрын

The show made him too likeable. In the books he was a weak King who allowed a Civil War to simmer during his reign because of his blind favoritism. Both he and his daughter used to cut themselves on the Iron Throne, which indicates that the Throne itself rejected them.

@servebotfrank4082

10 ай бұрын

@@gerardjagroo The only indicator that Rhaenyra ever cut herself on the Throne was from a third hand account of her sitting the throne and apparently having her legs riddled with cuts. The problem is that Rhaenyra sat on the Throne while wearing PLATE MAIL, which means it would be impossible to get an injury like that. The Throne doesn't have a mind of its own, but for thematic reasons it usually happens when someone isn't behaving well, Kingly and gets careless. Even Aegon The Conqueror cut himself on the Throne. It's a throne made of swords.

@rafayetrahmanratul1059

10 ай бұрын

​@@gerardjagrooBook plot os written from biased POV. The people around him thought him as weak and that's how it was in the books. But in the series, they showed us from characters POV. You can say its kind of an accurate description of him.

“I got a text message that simply said: ‘Your Viserys is better than my Viserys’," Considine said. "It was from George R. R. Martin. And I thought: that’ll do it. Thanks for trusting me.” I love that George RR Martin admitted that. His main priority is what's the best version of the world he created.

@mst3KGf

Жыл бұрын

He's said Considine's performance has tempted him to go back, rip up the pages with Viserys in "Fire and Blood" and start anew.

I can’t believe he would question his choice

"Rebellion? There's been nothing of the sort your grace" -future rebel who doesn't support his choice of heir

@neville-ashhume8870

Жыл бұрын

Vicerys should have killed Jason lannister right there0, as he showed his desire for Aegon.🔥🔥

@zxylo786

Жыл бұрын

The rebels are the blacks since Aegon II was crowned in the Red Keep and sat in the Iron Throne first. If you want to argue then watch the historical timeline and check who is the king after Viserys.

@andreypopov5972

Жыл бұрын

@@zxylo786 The rebels are the ones who usurped the throne from king viserys chosen heir Rhaynera. The order of coronation does not matter as Aegon is a usurper and a rebel regardless of order. Hes not the heir so the blacks cant be rebels.

@zxylo786

Жыл бұрын

@@andreypopov5972 By that logic Stannis is the royals and Joffrey is the rebel. Aegon II was the official king like it or not, and rebeling against him is the literal definition of a rebel.

@Mourtzouphlos240

Жыл бұрын

@@zxylo786 Stannis is the rightful heir as all those in senior and legitimate decent from Aegon I are either dead, fled, or in the Night’s Watch when Stannis is crowned. Rhaenyra is the heir because her King said so and then had all the lords in the realm agree. Then he wedded Rhaenyra to Laenor Velaryon he told them that Rhaenyra’s firstborn, REGARDLESS OF GENDER, would be the Targaryen King or Queen after her. And at the end of the Dance of the Dragons, every Claimant to the Iron Throne is descended from Rhaenyra Targaryen and none from Alicent Hightower.

That little short sarcastic smile after he thanks him for the gift is what sealed the deal for me over Paddy's performance as Viserys. I didn't think he'd be able to pull it off when i first saw the casting, but he's not just proven my doubt wrong- he deserves awards for his role as Viserys. Dude knocked it out of the park

I don't blame Visery for the death that comes after his passing. He did say, that he did not name Rhaenyra as his heir on a whim, all the lord's of the kingdom would do well to remember it.

@kahorhehan

Жыл бұрын

The North remembers.

@Kaszkieciorz_TG

3 ай бұрын

He broke the very law that put him on the throne. Rhaenyra sure is better ruler than Aegon (esepecialyy in the show) but sometimes keeping to the unjust law is a lesser evil than revoluton

Visery's was the best king of Westeros we got to see on any of the shows. People call him weak, but only the strong can maintain peace for decades, while the weak immediately turn to fighting.

@StoicSurvivor99

Жыл бұрын

The strong are capable of fighting and the weak are incompetent and indecisive, much like Aenys targaryen. A true king is one who keeps the peace but is prepared for a fight if that peace shatters.

Viserys: “do you have more dragons?” Jason: “I could help you get more; I can use my families wealth to build you more dragon nesting grounds in my lands and expand the number of dragons your family will have in the future. You currently only have one place to hatch dragons and 16 under your control, when you could have multiple sites in case of a disaster. Most of the dragons died because they were only hatched in Valeria, too many eggs in one basket so to speak, why not seek to expand your families power by rebuilding the dragons numbers with a marriage alliance with my house? The dragons would be the property of house Targaryen, and house Lannister could cover the cost of building and upkeep.”

@mst3KGf

Жыл бұрын

That's not a logical response. Not that those arguments don't make sense, but because Jason is too much of a dumbass to ever make that argument. Tyland, on the other hand...

I feel viserys during this age was paranoid of people thinking himself weak and overcompensated. He knew he never faced maegor the cruel like his predecessor or even distinguished himself in his youth. He was completely unprepared for being king when it was thrust upon him and never had the complete mind for politics

There's the Dragon. The lions tucked his tail

This is such a brilliant actor, Jesus Christ, he stole the show.

Viserys just wanted to celebrate his baby's second birthday with a hunting trip and everyone's giving him grief.

@ryankwon8785

6 ай бұрын

It's shows how the noble major houses, aside from the Starks, Arryns, Tullys, and Martells, are very petty despite having everything they wanted in life as a major noble house. As Daemon said, “No matter how fat the leech grows, it always wants another meal." Daemon's understanding of this helped him navigate through the Game of Thrones and advise Rhaenyra on military matters.

Love that dragon-ish growl Paddy gives to that Lannister when he suddenly questions him.

Paddy was immense, he deserves some serious recognition.

I like how viserys stood by his decision

Seriously one of my favourite scenes❤

I was waiting for Lord Tywin Lannister to come in from off screen and just slap his ancestor in this scene lol !!

There’s Balerions last rider

He could have just flipped a coin out and said "Why yes, golden ones! "

This king didn't need a dragon, because he WAS a dragon!

Viserys's part of the dialogue was a masterclass in giving someone questions they can't answer without implicating themselves in some way. Jason was forced in short order to either admit he was making empty promises, questioning Viserys's judgment, or fomenting rebellion. Well written.

A Lannister always craps his pants.

King Visery only ever made one big mistake naming his daughter heir and then remarrying. You should never have remarried because once he got a son the son's life would be put in mortal danger because his claim would be better than his sisters. His sister would have to kill him to keep the throne. Otto recognize this immediately and Alicent not to long after.

@dannyboy4140

Жыл бұрын

During those times when life expectancy was so short, it is the duty of a King to produce as many spare heirs as possible. If Rhae were to die it would result to immediate power struggle and possibly war.

@pg1448

Жыл бұрын

​@@dannyboy4140 Yeah but Rhaenyra should have been the spare heir, not her brothers. There is no reason for Rhaenyra to be first in line of succession after sons were born to Viserys, that puts them inevitably at odds with each other

@ryankwon8785

6 ай бұрын

It's not a mistake. Monarchs remarrying is mandatory to birth as many children as possible in case something happens to their chosen heir. This was evident during King Jahaerys' reign which led to succession conflicts when many of his early heirs died. The only problem is that Otto is better at playing the Game of Thrones at this period.

@sirtarquin6306

6 ай бұрын

@@ryankwon8785 Visery was inconsistent with the law, if he or Rhaenyra wanted legal justification for her rule they should have changed the law for all men and women in the 7 kingdoms, but as usual it was about the special white haired girl and what she wanted.

@ryankwon8785

6 ай бұрын

@@sirtarquin6306 I agree. Viserys' problem was he could have worked harder to make Rhaenyra his heir similar to how King George VI made the effort to make Elizabeth II his successor.

Who’d have thought that centuries later that a Lannister would slay a Targaryen King and a Lannister would sit one day sit on the Iron Throne? 😂

@yusufraage8554

Жыл бұрын

Not a Lannister but a Bareatheon bastards.

@Ilyas-ty6cy

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, but that all thanks to Tywin who save his house from falling and being feared again.

@JulianaSantos-es7yc

8 ай бұрын

And a woman for all that matter

@VDA19

7 ай бұрын

Jaime, Cersei, Joffrey, Tommen, Tywin have all sat the Iron Throne.

just started watching this show and isn't viserys just the sweetest king ever? I love him!

That forced smile he gives at 2:03 kills me.

Paddy Considine did a phenomenal job as King Viserys. Very enjoyable.

He is family man first and a king second. That is why I love his character so much.

King Viserys The Peaceful was a right king for the Seven Kingdoms

Love every second of it! 0:29. Vyseris questions the political subtext of Lannisters words and actions 0:51. He understood, he is annoyed cause his daughter marriage is a hard topic. 1:01. He looks up as if the dragons are flying in the sky simbolising the Targarian strengh. 1:16. He finally drink from the cup cause he understood the political purpouse and knows he will succeed in standing his ground. 1:45. He points his finger at the opponent as if its a spear just like the one Lannister gifted him.

I always seen it like this : Viserys is the father Daenerys would have killed to have and would have cherished all her life .

Paddy has owned this entire season

@BrettSmashy

Жыл бұрын

Yes he has and I did not anticipate him absolutely nailing this role.

A friendly dragon is still a dragon…

You gift a Gilded Spear +300 Reputation with The Throne "Can I marry Rhaenerys?" -300 Reputation with the Iron Throne. "Wh-? NO! Now fuck off before you make me angry."

it's crazy the levels of respect people show the targaryens in hotd than the lannisters in thrones.

@Commanderziff

Жыл бұрын

'Respect' or 'fear'? It's kind of like the old statement about war between the US and the Soviet Union just after WW2, "Whatever happens, we have the bomb, and they don't." Dragons may as well be the atomic bomb. Targaryen power is essentially a given, no one can stand against them, and it's been that way for quite a while. The Lannisters just had gold, and an army, everyone had those.

He should've pretended to go along with it and consider naming Aegon He could've coaxed him into revealing what other lords he should look out for... A bit of cleverness could've gone a long way

@CainEverest

Жыл бұрын

Yes but that also could have ended up backfiring on him as well

Kind of interesting how you can see Otto watching this whole exchange in the background.

People like to criticize Viserys. I liked him a lot and the actor did an amazing job portraying the character. That 'thank you for the gift' and subtle smile afterwards was a nice touch. Very well done.

Congratulations Lancel, you're no longer the dumbest Lannister 😂

@gooby214

4 ай бұрын

Tytos Lannister was the dumbest Lannister...to bad you're a show-only normie

@TV-ge3uj

Ай бұрын

A show-only fan would have said Orson Lannister.

He was not a dragon rider, he was not a father to most of his kids, he was not a warrior, or a poet, or a genius of finances or logistics, nor did he succeed in protecting his grandfather's peace, but the one kingly trait Viserys I absolutely had was a mastery of the art of being politely unimpressed.

To date my favorite King in the show many what a legend!

It’s annoying knowing how it went from centuries of valyria ruling the known world, then Targaryens conquering Westeros after the doom, to Targaryens and dragons getting driven to near extinction and replaced by these Baratheon and Lannister fuckers.

@michaelsuder486

6 ай бұрын

Targs made themselves extinct

Dang. Thats actually some great acting. Bravo

Lmao Jason Lannister's face as he realizes he just fucked up

@BrettSmashy

Жыл бұрын

Truly a great moment! 😂

It's hard to imagine that tywin is the grand grand grand grand grand son of this clown. Sometimes it's hard to imagine that tywin is a Lannister at all, as most members of the family seem to be defined by their smugness.

@George-Hawthorne

Жыл бұрын

Forrest Frey would roll in his grave if he saw his descendent.

@fortheloveofcats2462

Жыл бұрын

Tywin was definitely smug.

@Magido89

Жыл бұрын

@@fortheloveofcats2462 but wasn't defined by this self entitled smugness.

@aurelian2668

10 ай бұрын

​@@George-Hawthorne Yeah, people forget too that the freys were pretty brave from the past. Only in the recent time did house frey truly become shit.

@ryankwon8785

6 ай бұрын

Tywin became serious because he and his brother, Kevan, had to grow up watching his father act like a clown. People like Tywin and Olenna are rare so it is difficult to understand the common stereotypes of each of the major houses aside from the Starks.

Gold is used to beautify objects but is ultimately far too soft of a metal to be useful in something practical like hunting. Perfect for Jason Lannister.

@masterplokoon8803

Жыл бұрын

The spear was fine, it was Viserys who wasn't a good warrior or hunter.

@Lach1234

Жыл бұрын

This was the nicest insult I've ever read. Lol

@mst3KGf

Жыл бұрын

Yes and nicely foreshadowing what a complete waste he'll be in the Dance of the Dragons.

@masterplokoon8803

Жыл бұрын

@@mst3KGf he's not gonna be a waste, he won two battles before dying and his death caused the war to turn against the Lannisters. He wasn't brilliant but he was competent, brave and efective. He won more battles than Rhaenyra did.

@geoffreyfyfe2248

Жыл бұрын

@@masterplokoon8803 He's killed in the first battle he fights in and him being absent allows Dalton Greyjoy to wreak havoc on the Westerlands. So, yeah, complete failure.

😎😎😎He was a great king. Kind of sad how everything just fell apart as soon as he died, considering that he was probably the only one that kept his family together.😢😢😢

This scene never gets old 😭😭😭

No wonder GRRM said paddy’s version of viserys was better then his

Viserys fake smile is just like Daenerys lmao

I love how this shows the Targaryens and Lannisters have always been hostile to each other.

That mans pride has Pride.

Looks like Jason almost shat his pants

@BrettSmashy

Жыл бұрын

💩 🤣 For sure!

@qmegamann

Жыл бұрын

But would it be gold?

@franciscohcoronado4947

4 ай бұрын

@@qmegamann heh, I get it :3

I believe initially he named her heir out of fear but he began to truly see that Rhaenyra had the potential to be good ruler. That is why he stood firm in his decision. He could be swayed about a lot of things but never that once his mind was made up and didn’t stand for anyone questioning it.

Idk why I thought Paddy wouldnt do a good job but he showed up as King Viserys every episode!!!! What a wonderful actor I am impressed!

Jason Lannister is well aware that this a guy who has dragon riders at his command by the end of this conversation 😅

@ryankwon8785

6 ай бұрын

Viserys still need to be respectful since the Lannisters and the Tyrells are very rich and are essential to Westeros' economy. It's why he is respectful and threatening simultaneously in the scene. Plus, Jason's statement regarding dragons could also mean Gold Dragons (Equivalent to 11,760 copper pennies).

I like how we often see Viserys as this kind and a peaceful king but I loved scenes like this where I wish he’d be more strong

When you fail all persuasion checks.

@laningsmith9163

Ай бұрын

I just played bg3 a few hours ago so i laughed. When I fail persuasion checks I just reload

@TV-ge3uj

Ай бұрын

@@laningsmith9163 The power to reload would have come quite in handy for Jason Lannister here.

Always feel bad for Aegon, his own father didn't pay attention to him😢

Man I've been giving Viserys so much shit throughout the season, but after last episode, I realize... he wasn't as dim-witted as I thought.

@ninodino444

Жыл бұрын

That just means that you are not a smart cookie…. It was clear from first episode that he is not dim-witted…..

@twinsen1949

Жыл бұрын

@@ninodino444 Bro, he knew damn well that trouble was bewing and still chose willing blindness. And his decsion is still going to throw the kingdoms into war. I can admit I judged the guy harshly, but you're pushing it a bit too much lil dude.

@dannyboy4140

Жыл бұрын

He aint dumb. He never prepared or imagined himself king. He inherited a great and peaceful kingdom and he was obssesed with keeping that way. Unfortunately sometimes you have to commit vile acts to maintain order, Viserys never had the stomach for those type of things.

@spottedslash4256

Жыл бұрын

@@dannyboy4140 No he just had Principles and wasn't going to fold them out of convince.

@spottedslash4256

Жыл бұрын

@@twinsen1949 The Family was going to fight anyway. If he chose one side, the other wouldn't accept it. And still would take there shot the moment Viserys died. The only difference is. The lines would be much more clear. But the War would of happen out of the others Ambitions.

I love the subtle sigh Viserys gives when Jason asks for Rheynera's hand, Viserys is just like: "This shit again"

Ah, there’s that mythical backbone we see once or twice a season.

dang, the lannisters were so different back then. they weren't even the richest family

@sanderflop

Жыл бұрын

They were still, albeit briefly supplanted by the Velaryons. They just didn’t have that cold ruthlessness until Tywin came along

@Kncperseus

Жыл бұрын

The Lannisters were basically an average Warden Noble House back then. It wasn't until Tywin came to power that House Lannister saw some prosperity.

@zxylo786

Жыл бұрын

@@Kncperseus They were pretty rich, but not the first. They were probably the fourth richest house and in control of the Westerlands. House Velaryon may be richer. But they don't have hundreds of vassal houses.

@ladygrey7425

Жыл бұрын

They weren't even the most feared Great House back then. That belonged to the Starks and the Greyjoys, considering that everyone shit themselves in pure terror once they heard Cregan Stark was marching with a huge army at his back and they rushed every available ship they could to the Sunset Sea to stop Dalton Greyjoy from sacking every town and city on the west coast.

@Kncperseus

Жыл бұрын

@@ladygrey7425 Starks and the North were the strongest of the Seven Kingdoms during the pre-Aegon times. The only reason the Starks weren't ruling Westeros is because they had little love for the rest of Westeros.

If Jason Lannister just shut his mouth up about the succession business he may have had a shot

What a great scene! It's always a treat to see a Lannister smacked down a peg or ten. 🤣

the whiplash lmao