I am looking for constructive criticism ONLY. If you believe the info in this video is not correct (which I got from a book written in 1910) state what is incorrect/false or else keep silent. Trolls will be blocked!

@munenex

3 жыл бұрын

The book by W. Routledge and his wife has been criticized by Kikuyu historians. Routledge sources were frauds.

@t0n0k0

2 жыл бұрын

It's impossible to make corrections when almost the whole thing feels like this, ....wrong, wrong, not quite, wrong, not the whole story, wrong.... where do you even start? It's too.

@hoverboy

2 жыл бұрын

Akamba came from Akikuyu not the other way around. That book is grossly misrepresenting facts. We all know routledge was an obscenly racist man an him writing about a people he takes no time to understand doesn't mean you should continue perpetrating his lies.

@lewismuriuki6982

9 ай бұрын

​​​@@hoverboyvery true. The Akamba came from the last daughter of Mumbi... Actually she was chased away after sleeping with her Nephew. (son of wambui)

@janendegwa5462

5 ай бұрын

The book with a prehistoric people is not likely to have correct information the author even said she would substitute words for Kiswahili that's why she even called as Kikuyu of which we are not we are gikuyu she was biased in thinking our methods of metal work were prehistoric so the bias can't tell the truth on top of the fact gikuyu people were secretive and they never used sed to give information to arrogant people who are looking down which they used to detect quickly up to the 90s even nowon them so all that info is questionable

Kikuyu did not come from Kamba. In fact, if you consult history well it is the Kamba that came from Kikuyu. They are regarded as the lost daughter of Mumbi. The lost daughter moved from the fertile lands and settled in the dry lands. You can observe the language similarities.

@talatalaco6837

7 ай бұрын

Exactly 💯

@Sharon-rl3dy

4 ай бұрын

Yeah the last daughter actually slept with her nephew and was chased from Kikuyu land and due to her bitterness learnt witchcraft and became today's Kamba tribe

I'm sorry, but there are some inaccuracies in what you've said. Firstly, the Kikuyus are not descended from the Kambas - they are actually the 10th clan. Secondly, the Iregi generation did not fight Somalis; they actually overthrew the Kings who ruled over the Kikuyus. Thirdly, although there were conflicts with the Maasai, they were also our biggest trading partners, and we learned a lot about warfare from them.

I stopped after the video told me I came from the Kamba people ...

From the first minute this video is bogus

Mathogothanio...

@NicholasTabuche

27 күн бұрын

Mathoroko

I went ahead and read the book you obtained the footage from. The authors, W. SCORESBY ROUTLEDGE & KATHERINE ROUTLEDGE (husband and wife), (1910) highlighted some of the challenges they faced in their preface. It included some Kikuyus giving miss guiding information and their assistants getting bored during some of the sessions. However, they still got other Kikuyus who told the truth, and the missionaries provided some more information from what they had learnt of the people. Many of the comments critique the origin of the Kikuyu story because an alternative has been passed down the lineage. I appreciate this video since it is purely based on the original book. It provides detailed information about the Kikuyu way of life that may be valuable to many Kikuyus. I would advise people to find a copy of the book or alternatives provided to base their facts upon. This is a commendable job to me!.

@africananecdotestv

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I absolutely love reading books about Afrikan pple, esp the ones written in the 1800s/1900s but I do realize that since they were written by outsiders (so called explorers, and colonizers) they may have half truths exagerations etc. But it's start. We must eat the meat and spit out the bones as we conect the dots.

This is very true. kikuyu never being victims of slavery. Good work let all go back to our traditions.

@muiro2204

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZZ-uzMmHgsq2pcY.html

Such misinformation is really detrimental, am actually surprised the story of the swollen knee origin story wasn't included in here, seeing as to how much fictional information is included herein. Really saddening.

Please to whoever who did this videos do research because whatever you have is not the facts

Uhm, this video is not entirely factual and misinformed.

I believe the huts were made due to colonialism, they were made as temp homes as they had to keep moving or risk being captured.

Those warpits ☠️We noma Ukaikùrúka piu☠️

Very accurate information based on the collective memory of clans from different parts of Kikuyu country.

I see much misinformation from this clip. i.e Kikuyu did not come from kamba

The first information just did it for me. I cant believe this misinformed video still exists after 3 whole years!! Your ignorance even after being corrected multiple times in the comments is amazing. At least learn from the people who have been raised by their OWN BELIEFS AND CULTURE instead of trusting a mzungu's book.

Kikuyus NEVER came from Kambas! We are very intelligent people!

@africananecdotestv

Жыл бұрын

Hmmm. That's a bit offensive ndugu..

@positiveego5397

Жыл бұрын

@@africananecdotestv we are very intelligent not to be cheated by an amateur KZreadr. I don't know exactly what your were thinking.

Nothing is true about the legendary agikuyus in this clip!

@africananecdotestv

3 жыл бұрын

Don't just state it's not true. Say what is true and what is not. The book was written by a mzungu so what do you expect? If at all you are a Kikuyu, you'd know that not all is posted in the video is lies. Also, this book was written in 1910. Don't compare Kikuyu cultural norms of 2002 with those of 100 years ago.

@jagenaught

7 ай бұрын

@@africananecdotestv Muzungus lie a lot and that is a problem.

I'm a native gikuyu and you info is all wrong. Just because it was written by someone from the 18-19 century it doesn't mean it's right. My great-grandfather a maumau fighter has taught me about our culture and your facts are ridiculous. My great-grandmother who's almost 100+yrs old has a completely different story to tell so take it from me it's bullcrap.

@elizabethwandere3688

2 жыл бұрын

Please don't just dismiss information without clearly articulating and pointing out where the information being presented has gone wrong. We are here to constructively criticize the information not just to deem it as pure BS.

@je6962

2 жыл бұрын

@@elizabethwandere3688 I'm glad you mentioned BS coz it it is so. Better do more research than to depend on one book written by a nonnative. Might wanna take a look into work like (Nash narrates) channel. He does field work too hence spot on in his work. Also get your facts from the tribesmen especially elders, it'll save you from spreading ignorant mistake to those who are not aware of that.

@elizabethwandere3688

2 жыл бұрын

@@je6962 thank you for referring me to nash narrates, it's got amazing information

@je6962

2 жыл бұрын

@@elizabethwandere3688 as a kenyan native I can say he's Info is 90% correct bare minimum. Your welcome.

@stanleymwangi6524

2 жыл бұрын

It will depend on where you came from as a Gikuyu. The book is centered on the Southern Kikuyu and this information is very close to how things looked on the ground. Minus the origin stories from other intergrated clans and tribes

Hold up. No. Just no. Don't go spreading around false information. Please do your research

@africananecdotestv

3 жыл бұрын

This info is from a book. I'm not the one who wrote the book. Simply reviewing it. Don't shoot the messenger.

The entire thing is made of misplaced facts based on rumours and clearly shows that the person who came up with these did not do any research

Did you read this from Kinyatta Foundation and Publisher's , it doesn't rym with the real history of the Agīkūyū....that stuff is so cheap !

@africananecdotestv

4 жыл бұрын

Please share what is your issue with the video so that we may all learn from each other. For example, you may disagree with the CLAN names and give your version or you may disagree with the elders habits and give your version of what you heard. Otherwise your comment, as much as it is appreciated, is only adding confusion and bringing no clarity.

@kingzy2127

3 жыл бұрын

@@africananecdotestv There’s a lot of inaccuracies in this video. It’s important to have more than one source of research and in the case of African history, it’s important to hear the other side of the story. The first- Kikuyus don’t say their nation is derived from the Akambas. Agikuyus and Akambas are both Bantu speaking tribes are geographical neighbours. But we have our own creation story as a tribe(this shouldn’t be hard to find). In terms of “nation”, Agikuyus weren’t a nation, we are a tribe who settle in the slopes and highlands of Mount Kenya. The Kenyan nation was born out borders drawn by European colonisers in the Berlin conference “scramble for Africa”. Second- the time periods you mention from Manjiri to Muiringu also make no sense. Some of these are actually Kikuyu surnames. I think this may have either been materialised or lost in translation. Third- the relationship between Maasais and Kikuyus was more friendly than you perpetuate. They’re trade partners in spears and leather. Of course there was conflict just like most societies battle each other, but it was mostly peaceful. I think this was a imperialist twist on actual truth in order to paint Africans as savage and violent, you know, to justify colonialism. Fourth, the war with Somalis is kinda confusing. Somalis occupy the North east dry lands of Kenya, Kikuyus occupy the central highlands, logically, conflict, especially in this “age of Iregi” makes no sense. There was conflict with Somalis however, later around the early 80s, but this wasn’t a kikuyu problem, it was a Kenyan problem. Fifth- I think this was an honest mistake but Kikuyus were known for their spears & bows and arrows over swords. It’s even cited in the traditional prayer to Ngai. I think these are the main points that you ought to correct as they’re just obviously inaccurate. I would suggest reading books sourced from Kenya, written by Kikuyu authors, interviewing actual kikuyu people, especially the older ones who speak kikuyu fluently. Reading kikuyu stories, even if fictional, give a better idea of a people’s culture and social mentality. Remember, African cultures are mostly inaccessible to Western audiences and pretty much the rest of the world; you will only find information painted by the biased imperialists. I can testify to this, I grew up both in Kenya and London and it doesn’t matter how much I search official books and records, the most extensive knowledge I know came from stories from my grandmother.

@africananecdotestv

3 жыл бұрын

@@kingzy2127 Thank you. Your comment is indepth, valued and appreciated. I was simply reviewing the book and I will continue to review more books and people will be free to agree or disagree.

@catherinenganga9324

3 жыл бұрын

@@africananecdotestv sorry in fact u are not talking about the Agikuyu people the house of Gikuyu and mumbi I don't even know where to start sorry.

@catherinenganga9324

3 жыл бұрын

@@kingzy2127 Ni Thayu well put 👍this is why I always tell my fellow Agikuyu to know themselves get information from our elders not going to Google like I have read here our duty is to protect what was passed from our ancestors and everyday I say Ndi thayu.

SMH whaaaaaaaat?

very misleading. would not recommend!

This is very inaccurate and very misleading video about the Agikuyu Community. God created Gikuyu and Mumbi and together got 9 daughters... Another parallel myth says that, that Mumbi got the tenth daughter who never got a husband. She moved and got married to other tribal men and the raised the Akamba community. So, the Akamba came from Kikuyu and not the other way round.....

@africananecdotestv

3 жыл бұрын

Those are myths my friend. Myths and legends cannot be relied on 100 percent.

@kingzy2127

3 жыл бұрын

@@africananecdotestv excuse me, you can’t be telling a Kenyan what is a myth and what isn’t when you read our history from one inaccurate textbook please. What he’s saying is actual Kikuyu history. It’s part of the creation story.

@africananecdotestv

3 жыл бұрын

@@kingzy2127 I am a Kikuyu and I realize too that history is made up of myths, legends, and facts. Yes, Gikuyu and Mumbi story is part of the creation story but that doesn't mean it's true.

@catherinenganga9324

3 жыл бұрын

@@africananecdotestv you are a kikuyu that means I can talk as a mugikuyu big deference .

@africananecdotestv

3 жыл бұрын

@@catherinenganga9324 You cn watch the Tribal Life of the Kikuyu review for an alternative view.

Lmao what did i just watch

This is not a true story..... FALSE! FALSE! FALSE!.

Very shallow research

@africananecdotestv

2 жыл бұрын

I wasn't researching. I was reviewing the book.

whoever made this is not a real kikuyu smh

Ha ha lol

Popeye......hahaha???

First delete this and get your facts right.

Wtf is this!

Ndite tu nyeni ngamenya mathaii ari mugikuyu hahaha pathetic

@esthermaitho1629

3 жыл бұрын

Where can I get factual info on the agikuyu people? One that is true