When I first heard the phrase “mind body and sword move as one” I immediately interpreted it as just having good body control/coordination so no part of you is dragging behind in the time of need. Not that they literally all move together at the same time, but rather they compliment each other when each is called for. I think the way it is taught now is not bad for beginners. What you go into are not things should be thinking about they really should focus on the very basics

@JustaBug

5 ай бұрын

And i think that's exactly what it should be, but many places are teaching it as everything together even for their competent students. Even in the seitei iaido booklet it comments on the key marker of kikentaiichi being done well as all movement conclude at the same time. I'd much rather have struck my opponent on a first intention strike microseconds before my foot has hit the ground

I like your sword theory videos. These ideas are interesting 🤔

Where I learned KKT1 was from Kendo, and I think it's in that sphere where it shines. Because there are few blocks in Kendo, it negates the problem of your strike being intercepted. However, outside of Kendo, I think KKT1 is an excellent tool to learn how to fix "synchrony" issues, but ultimately will fizzle out at higher levels.

@JustaBug

5 ай бұрын

Definitely agree with ruleset for kendo favouring kikentaiichi

Another thing to be said about separating your hands and feet separately is that it can confuse your opponent since they are probably used to people moving hands and feet together

@JustaBug

5 ай бұрын

Definitely agree with this. Some schools teach to look at the sternum to track your opponents distance, and these are the people you will get with this every single time. Sternum tracking assumes 100% hands and feet move together

A little sharing from my POV (kendo beginner🙋‍♂) - Ki Ken Tai Ichi is an element unique to Kendo & Kumdo (correct me if im wrong), for both their practice methods as well as sparring for competition. Like any sports, the ruleset influences the way the player play the 'game'. so for kendo, kikentaiichi is heavily emphasised into their rules of sparring - it may not fit into other sports when applied. KKTI, the idea isn't exactly to move as one but a harmonising of the 4 elements as part of the striking process in kendo, its heavily emphasised as a way to train and ingrained the philosophy into the practitioners. - without those elements, an ippon does not count. Ki, the energy & spirit - showing you are on a level of high alert and readiness, physically & mentally, hence the Kiai serves a function to intimidate your opponent & pshcye yourself up as well as purging your mind of unnecessary thoughts for the moment. Ken, the techniques/waza of your sword (showing proper techniques, accidental shots does not count) Tai the posture, including footwork & correct posture (don't want to look sloppy and un-energetic) Ichi, as one. Harmonising all of the above for a cut So the ideal kikentaiichi practice is to show your preparedness & energy , create the opening with waza/techniques, then launch a strike while calling the name of the target through fumikomi. Back to readiness & zanshin for a follow-up strike (if need to) hope this is informative - in my lighthearted equivalent would be of Pickleball vs Tennis. Same Same...but Different....🤭

@JustaBug

22 күн бұрын

Yeah, I'm not against the concept of kikentaiichi. Just the execution ends up as everything moving as one, and it's a concept that's leeched over into many koryu schools and other sword arts as well. The concept is fine, the execution is usually poor and the teaching of why or the thought process of order of movements that students get taught- often even poorer

@JustaBug

22 күн бұрын

@NamazuRyuSaiken quite possibly. Many of koryu schools I've been to have been in the context of sparring and most of them have had some kendo experience. Either way, I think many kendoka would benefit from considering order of movements though that's probably the least of issues with kendo

@NamazuRyuSaiken

22 күн бұрын

@@JustaBug Different Koryu have different approaches to combat - so KKTI being bleed over to Koryu may have something to do with my theory of a kendoka dojo doing koryu as an extension. It's just a theory of mine since I dont hear KKTI term being used on Koryu exclusive dojos. My best guess is a Kendoka that trains in Koryu as an extension bleeds the concept over because its what they are learning from the beginning. And Koryu is very open ended conversation too because MSR is categorized as Koryu but it is a relatively modern style developed during a peaceful era (which seitei takes heavy inspiration from) - when other much older styles were developed during the warring times when theres more emphasis on survival than "presentation" base

George Silver would probably dissed the Japanese the same way he dissed the Italian if he heard "sword body feet move together at the same time"

@JustaBug

5 ай бұрын

To be fair, Silver likely would have hated the Japanese simply because they were not English

@frankheninja1

5 ай бұрын

@@JustaBugtrue lol