the khmer representing the 21st century spirit with guerilla gardening to be honest a huge buff to t90

@nikolafeschiev3399

4 жыл бұрын

guerilla gardening is the bst sentnce I heard in weeks

@johnchong7664

4 жыл бұрын

Check out the channel on this website called KZread.com Crime pays but botany doesn't It's all about plants and planting them illegally to better the cityscape.

I was reading the aoe patches and saw the new Khmer farmers, and instantly thought "well, lemme just wait for spirit's video"

@kln5705

4 жыл бұрын

Lol no need, it was obviously gonna be a big boost Can't wait to see what Spirit has to say about it :>

@hoppityhares2597

4 жыл бұрын

That is exactly what I thought! Saw it last night and then new I would see a new SOTL video soon :D

@ersinculdur4401

4 жыл бұрын

I saw it at vipers video and started to waiting for sotl :))

Alright, T90 is gonna main Khmer now to stop people mocking his farms.

@skyvenrazgriz8226

4 жыл бұрын

11

@MrElderskull

4 жыл бұрын

Khmer justifying T90 farms 2020

@jaunahs

4 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for someone to write this down

@Emberlore

4 жыл бұрын

dang, one hour too late

@smartestmoronx19

4 жыл бұрын

Khmer90

One big thing is the fact that you get the ressources instantly into your bank without having to wait for the dropoff, which means that you can invest your food as soon as it is collected. The value of invested ressources is greater the earlier in the game it is. If you don`t have to wait until your vills reach their carrying capacity, you can get units/techs earlier, boosting everything even more. I think this is will be huge!

@klauspretsch7885

4 жыл бұрын

As in e^x you mean?

@ageofnumbersyt8557

4 жыл бұрын

@@klauspretsch7885 You`ve nailed it ;)

@TheRealXartaX

4 жыл бұрын

Not only that, but you can expand your farming at will without having to worry about placing new resources drop off points or waiting for them to build.

@Tudsamfa

4 жыл бұрын

Khmer confirmed top tier in 256x times mod, now you can increase your walking speed without having them hoard until they have 100 resources. Apart from that: eh, casual to mid ranked players always have 30+ food in the bank, while pros are already used to force dropping resources. Not having too force drop food may help them somewhat, but I think the 7% higher farming efficiency is the huge part here and not the convenience in never force dropping.

@PizzaManager101

4 жыл бұрын

Tudsamfa but also the saved space and wood cost of mills

That khmer bonus is also useful to hide your farmers if you know the enemy will knight rush you. Also you can just send the farmers to spots all over the map and mantaing map visibility at the same time you get food.

@GummieI

4 жыл бұрын

Hmm could be interesting in those cases where you would normally wall in towards your TC due to how the map was, you could now in fact justify to walling all the way in to touch the TC, forcing the enemy not just near your TC, but in through your TC making it a lot harder to get past even with good micro, while having the farmers begin the TC and wall still

Rams: “If I can see the other side, it isn’t an obstacle and therefore isn’t a valid target”

1:00 JESUS, atleast put in a warning before showing stuff like that...

@kln5705

4 жыл бұрын

Half of us died inside when we saw it. The rest have no connection to the game whatsoever (or are T90)

@barbarianjk2355

4 жыл бұрын

Calin Pantea there are plenty of T90s out there (and funnily enough, it's not a joke).

@gulparviz

4 жыл бұрын

ya, i mean kids also watch this, at least he needs to censor that xD

@ark_knight

4 жыл бұрын

I think he did

@fire460

4 жыл бұрын

2:04 noice.

Since khmer villagers dont have to drop the food now they can now be a top tier forest nothing x256 tech. This is because you had to eventually stop researching wheelbarrow if you wanted your farmers to drop the food.

@mauer1

4 жыл бұрын

well, you dont really need farmers in a 256 forest nothing. you just sell and buy.

@VaygrX

4 жыл бұрын

@@mauer1 If you want to rush then you need farmers. Eventually buying food becomes too expensive so you need farmers if you want to keep researching or pumping out units.

@jorgeruesta9123

4 жыл бұрын

@@VaygrX Exactly and researching, which is the main focus, is usually very gold intensive

chinese: first civilization to invent block printing also chinese: had to wait 20 years and a several new versions of the game to have access to it

@greenbrickbox3392

4 жыл бұрын

Not to mention they don't get handcannoneers or bombard cannons

@icarian553

4 жыл бұрын

It's hard to balance them in a game like this when they pretty much invented everything.

@EmperorNaval

4 жыл бұрын

That's communism for you 😂😂😂😂

@Harvest133

4 жыл бұрын

@@greenbrickbox3392 They didn't have handguns. Didn't even have cannons until much later on. They invented gunpowder, but not guns

@TheArklyte

4 жыл бұрын

@@Harvest133 they literary invented hand cannon! A century later mongols introduced it to arabic states. Lol, firearms didn't start with muskets, yankee.

So we can't laugh at T90 farms anymore?

@benjaminmclaren8782

4 жыл бұрын

We can ALWAYS laugh at T90 farms :)

@tvremote9394

4 жыл бұрын

What if *Puts tin foil hat on* T90 forced the devs to add this update so he won't be laughed at anymore? This needs more investigation

@R3stor

4 жыл бұрын

well we can still laugh at his three archery ranges on neutral island though

5:38 That's something inspired by Age of Mythology king of the hill maps, where the monument is a Plenty Vault, a greek building summoned by a god power, wich is indestructible, change ownership by units near it and generate resources.

*_Cave Johnson approved this civilization_* -Now we need combustible lemons-

Khmer: We are utilizing alien technology from other galaxy to farm more efficiently then ya all ! It's 10/10 ! Meanwhile in pre-soviet Russia, Boris invents glorious vodka-infused farming technique for the Slavic nations. This mysterious technique has earned the rating of 11/10 !

Khmer: Best T90 Civ

@biaslina

4 жыл бұрын

11 This patch is dedicated to him

0:52 Everything is right in the world 1:00 The world is a dystopian mess

T90Official's new favorite civ confirmed. Edit: Damn there are so many same jokes already...

1:00 T90 is that you?

What about the update on trade carts (goes to the furthest market)? You made a whole video on this earlier, but no mention of this update?

Khmer farmer: portal to transfer food Khmer mill: water comes from a portal already

Can’t wait to watch the Viper set up his food eco on the far side of his opponents base where they would never look

Each video you make contributes significantly to competitive AoE. Thank you very much for all the work you do!

Finally The Khmer received a deserved buff I hope the Vietnamese can get a new bonus, maybe free archer armor upgrades

@Gunth0r

4 жыл бұрын

@Nguyễn Hải Dương Are you trolling? In real life, feudal and medieval vietnamese never had a strong economy. Trade was relatively non-existent, especially with foreign powers. Yet, the vietnamese in game have the following eco techs: - full food techs - full wood techs - full market techs - gold mining, stone mining, stone shaft mining - wheelbarrow AND hand cart - free conscription - supplies (less food for militia line) - Paper money in team games (500 extra gold) - gilnets, careening and dry dock (better fishing ships) Tell me, how is this not a good eco civ??? The only thing they need to be the winning civ is blast furnace and paladin, people just need to learn to use the archery ranges properly and complement with monks and bombards/elephants.

@Gunth0r

4 жыл бұрын

@Nguyễn Hải Dương Rattan/Arbs / elephants / monks are powerful gold mix, imperial skirm with rammed or siege towered pointybois is good trash! Also, not every civ has the same role or strength. obviously, vietnamese are going to be slinging and supporting team with archer line / elephants in team games. In solo, you'll have to perform archer+skirm raids against enemy feudal eco (+20% hp is a lot) (like the historic Nam Viet against the Cham) and counter with pikes if they bring cav, like you would with a lot of civs. Some civs are better generalists, others are better in niche situations. I wouldn't have it any other way. But I get it, you're vietnamese and you wanna be proud :) You're of the Nguyễn line after all.

@TheIanOakley

4 жыл бұрын

The extra HP isn't particularly meaningful, and if you give them that *and* free armour they're even more pigeonholed into archers. I'd swap the HP boost for free Fletching line - it's stronger archers, stronger galleys, stronger towers. Their other issue is that Imp Skirms and Rattan Archers both have the same niche, so one's gotta go.

@frankseward7017

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheIanOakley I'd also give them more gunpowder units for late game. Also longer lasting wood resources to give them an edge mid game.

@Hamanuna

4 жыл бұрын

@@frankseward7017 In my opinion I could give them Heavy Scorpions or at least Hand Cannoners because they don't have a good answer against infantry. Or why not Blast Furnace

Thanks for informing us about the Khmer bonus effect so quickly. I was hoping to hear your analysis on it.

I know you had to get this out fast, but was really expecting to see some more numbers on the Khmer farm bonus. Separate dedicated video coming soon, I hope?

Khmer confirmed for being T90's new favorite Civ

Slavs: BLYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT Edit: no wait slavs are still the best farmers *HAPPY SLAVIC NOISES*

@alexanderaden70

4 жыл бұрын

Master T-poser 69 kind of “URAAAAAAA” noises confirmed

@barbarianjk2355

4 жыл бұрын

Slavic women are the most beautiful IMO so of course they're happy.

@TheManofthecross

3 жыл бұрын

*has MG42's ready.* no blyat for you sir. now get gunned down. :P

If they're really going with portal-farm, one idea that I can definitely think of is "Portable Fortified farm" for those with corners to retreat to. Basically, find a place that's hard for the enemy to raid, wall off then just farm there. Then you can just focus on defending this one spot instead of spreading your defenses everywhere. Although, It's a double edge sword as you put all your farms in one place so if it's wiped, then you're wiped.

I like the bonus. It seems quite appropriate, both thematically and historically. The Khmer already had a strong "versatility" theme going on with the removed requirements for age advancement. It also makes sense historically for the Khmer to have a farming bonus, their cities (especially Angkor) had huge populations for the time period, which was achieved through very productive farming.

I love your videos!

love your videos! one small thing: Khmer is pronounced like khmai (rhymes with Thai). keep up the great content!

Most anticipated video of 2020

imagine having a secret farms in the corner of the map as Khmer

Best part of a new patch: new Spirit of the Law video!

Great video. Would love to see you commentate a regicide pilgrims game with T90!

Atlantean vils also follow this rule for all res in AoM

OMG, now T90 on Khmer will be unbeatable!

Using the Aegis cheat while playing as the Khmer is really insane now, those farms give food so fast, it's crazy

Your tests gave very similar results to mine. I'm extremely happy with the buff. You really notice the bonus in late feudal/early castle, but the bonus isn't so oppressive that other civs can't deal with the late game hussar/elephant spam. The khmer have always been fun to play, and now they're viable to play.

Excellent Choice!

I just started playing the Khmer campaign and thought: "Holy shit this is a strong civ". Didn't know they used to be an underdog. Such a noob friendly civ.

@virgileusa

4 жыл бұрын

its the opposite actually :p

@teddyhaines6613

4 жыл бұрын

The Khmer campaign, even relative to other campaigns, likes to give you a ton of units and resources to start off with, so their early game weakness on random maps is really not apparent there.

@meepo5223

4 жыл бұрын

Teddy Haines agree，when I played Khmer in a larger map with richer resource it turns super strong，while playing khmer in standard map like Arabia is frequently rushed and lose quickly

Wow this is interesting. You can even do cheeky stuff like farm with forward villagers. When they aren't building towers or production buildings

Love seeing that this is still getting support

Will you do a video about AoE III DE when it comes out?

Idk why but I love these videos

Love the background music

I dont like the portal farmers tbh Would be more interesting and in theme with khmer if instead houses worked as a drop off point for farmers

@Salnax

4 жыл бұрын

That would make some sense, but that basically would just make houses a cheap Mill alternative, something that isn’t going to matter until you need a second or third mill. By that point it could be the Ccastle Age, and saving 75 Wood on a building at that point is a pretty bottom tier bonus. Maybe if it were, say, 50% cheaper Houses it would both be on theme and useful?

@Progeusz

4 жыл бұрын

@@Salnax You're forgetting the fact Khmer vils can hide in houses but you can't hide in mills. But oh well, only one person in the world can play Khmer.

@nicholasthompson9410

4 жыл бұрын

Or what about houses acting as a general drop off for all resources way stronger

@Salnax

4 жыл бұрын

@@Progeusz You're going to need a Mill for your upgrades and reseeds though. So unless you move those to Houses and just scrap the Mill, you'll need to build at least one anyways. What nicholas says sounds interesting, making Houses into generic dropoff points for resources. That would be useful throughout most of the game.

@YeobDuk17

4 жыл бұрын

Chinese is awful but chinese civ is wonderful

i love your vids. plz make more gameplay vidoes :).

Can we expect reviews of all civs pls :) I mean in the light of the changes, new techs and so on?

Sneak villager in dark age can now be productive while waiting for feudal age to build the archer range.

@tomassmith2088

4 жыл бұрын

Bonus points for shooting a deer and nabbing the extra food, although I guess that's not extremely sneaky

The Chinese/Mayan starting vills on Nomad were useful not only for building a TC faster, but also for beating down enemy villagers. The number of game overs in three minutes will drop significantly :p

I just played a Nomad 3v3 with Khmer and oh boy how much they've improved. I'm sure we normally would've lost this game for sure but in the late game we started dominating when that 70 vill farm eco kicked in. The bonus is very, very noticable. I don't know where to put them now, but maybe even top 10...? Huge buff regardless, love it!

YOU ARE THE BEST !!!

You said you were waiting for this patch to do some overviews but in the patch notes they mention there will also be a February patch

Wow@khmer buff I can see some really interesting weird strategies with farms and their placement. They're going to be extraordinarily hard to raid imo

Proxy farms for khymer sounds like a dope strategy. I mean you have an idle villager out in the middle of nowhere after doing a trushing or scouting. Besides who really focuses down on farms, it's usually military buildings and tc that get targetted

Can't wait for the new civ overviews. Aztecs represent!

I waited for this :D

Spirit of the law Can you make a episode about each civ bonuses what is the meaning behind then (history etc)

Have you considered doing an overlord scenario with the community, I'm interested how you would play it.

You made a minor mistake at 1:32 calling hand cart wheelbarrow.

back then I've heard a friend mention that in one of the earlier version of the game (not sure if it was 1.0a or 1.0b), the game had a bug where the Korean farmers didn't move around while farming, I never tested it myself so I'm not sure if it was true

another new feature is, that sometimes units can walk through an unfinished stone gate or just straight through house walls. had this happen twice during my last game

Fuck dude I love your stuff. Very well thought out and detailed

Hey Hello. You have noticed that since the last patch the AI launches all units towards the left corner of the map (all AIs). this happens at least on the black forest map.

Hey, can we, (mainly me), see the DE AI take on the other civs in death match? Just want to see how the increased resources at the start impact the game.

If you convert a Burmese farmer and/or farm, do you also get the teleporting food? Or would the Burmese farmer lose the portal gun to transport food with?

Interesting bonus. My interpretation is that TC's, Mills and Farms are now no longer bound to each other. Wich also means the space around the TC is no longer nessesarily tied up with farms. Normally the farms are bound to the TC. And thus the mill is indirectly bound to the TC. Farms still want to hug the TC for arrow/raid coverage. Or you can put them around a castle for even *more* protection then a TC could allow. The house was a nice idea, but why not use something miltiary instead? But it might also be viable to hide a few farms in far-off spots. Or even put them into your allies base or around their Castles/Kreposts/Towers. You might have a very distributed farming (all over the map) farming area, a well protected one - or even both. It is also worth considering if there might be other buildings you want to place under TC coverage. The farms kinda hogged the TC coverage, as they needed to be close for dropoffs. But maybe there is something else "as important as farms" that can now be protected? Another bonus is the lack of delays. Both the part where they collected until "full" before dropping off and the running to the Dropsite could introduce delays in getting the resources. But now for Khmer you effectively got a "streaming" food income. Transitioning from the woodline to farming can now be seamless for the worker. Finally farmers can now be taken of at a moments notice and send to do some other gathering job - they will not loose any carried food.

Holy shit, Khmer and OP in the same sentence! PogChamp

As someone who likes to play Khmer, I love that they finally get some sort of eco bonus considering that they want to make big and expensive units! Building my Elephant army should be easier than ever! >:D

0:15 Elephant facts where?

Come on man Indians still aren't getting Elephants! Developers need to get that right.

@m136dalie

4 жыл бұрын

If the game were historically accurate meso civs would all die as soon as they make contact with any outsiders

@GunsAndRoses871

4 жыл бұрын

@@m136dalie my point isn't about historical accuracy. The Indians are by far the least interesting Civ out there. With American Civs you have eagles(Camels are too much gold intensive and take alot of bonus from defensive buildings)to compensate for no Stables unit plus they have decent UU as well. Can you say that for Indians ! Indians should on other hand have infantry as the bulk with huge cavalry on the other hand if we go by history but since we arent going by historical accuracy they still are pretty bad with average barracks and too heavy gold intensive units like Camels and Elephant archers the latter being very situational. The devs should have chosen Mughals instead of Rajputs as they were far better administrators. The civ would be alot better than what it has been represented in the game.

@m136dalie

4 жыл бұрын

@@GunsAndRoses871 Indians are perfectly balanced. Vietnamese are the ones that need a buff desperately.

@MawksProductions

4 жыл бұрын

@@GunsAndRoses871 Did you forget about the Indians cheap villager bonus? They arguably have one of the easiest booms in the game, and are excellent for scout rushing. Also in team games where gold cost doesn't matter as much (even though they collect gold faster than any other civ due to their castle tech) they are a phenomenal counter civ, having imp camels which DESTROY all elephant and horse units and hand cannoneers with extra range.

@OhSayWhatIsTruth

4 жыл бұрын

@Josh Herman The Ghana and Axum Empires had no technologies? News to me.

i don't have time to play actually so how does the farm boust work when village have full inventory of food you win it or is it evry lime the farmer get 1 food?

Wow, within the same hour we have SotL going over the update and T90 showcasing himself using it.

Can Khmer still drop food off at TC or mill if you need to get a bit of food quickly?

You forgot something. Because the sources directly teleported to your stockpile while you are gathering them from farms it also adds up instantly one by one which lets you get your villargers more quickly without any need for extra micro for forcing your villagers to gather food from farms when needed.

Do civ balance updates changes affect the campaings?

I literally played portal for the first time last week and now there is a portal reference!

Doin’ the lord’s work!

Those beautiful T90 farms. His new fav civ confirmed.

So the Khmer run on AOE3 rules when farming.

@Salnax

4 жыл бұрын

Except they still need to reseed.

@Volcano4981

4 жыл бұрын

@@TARDISES Yep, the infinite farm thing actually first got introduced in the base AoM. Though it's much slower to farm as a ratio of their hunting rate in comparison to AoE 2 farmers to balance out the infinite Food farms so they are still mostly only worth it once nearby hunting and gathering points are exhausted. Early on they start out slow, about three quarters the rate of hunting (while AoE 2 farming is much faster in comparison), and cost a ton of Wood (except for Egyptians who spend Gold for some reason) to get going, but as you get the farming rate upgrades and can defend them late, they become a solid food source. Same in AoE 3 as well, except instead of only Atlanteans it's all civs that can gather and drop off resources instantly.

Hmm got a map idea, wonder how hard it would be to make. Monument war: each player starts with a monument that generates resources and defends its self like a castle. You loose the monument you loose the match. Monument counts as a castle upgrade wise.

IT'S BEEN ONE DAY ARE YOU INSANE ARE YOU ON COKE ARE YOU EVEN HUMAN

Can someone please explain how Aztecs could possibly have a faster gather rate than Khmer? As their only bonus, to my knowledge, is they carry +5 before they have to drop off but Khmer never have to drop off so it should be always quicker? Does Aztecs have some sort of a hidden farming bonus or am I missing something? Thanks in advance.

I guess we know T90's new fave civ...

Id like to know how your head works spirit of the law♥

I think that the Khmer bonus was to see if people stopped talking about the "three archer ranges on neutral island strategy." It worked.

1. Will villagers gather food until their capacity is reached and then you get the food OR will every single food unit be added instantly? 2. Could you use 8 villagers, wander around the map looking for deers and boars and get huge amounts of food without walking to or building a mill?

Cry in Vietnamese ;-;

@theowlogram888

4 жыл бұрын

@Nguyễn Hải Dương Laaaan did beat Daut in NAC3 in a Vietnamese vs Maya match (ie.trash tier vs uber meta civ). Which gives them a 100% win rate in the tournament since they only have been used once 11. But yeah it would be cool if they had a different use than making your opponent lose out of surprise.

@nguyenkhoa7482

4 жыл бұрын

Huhuhuuu..

A good way to evaluate the power of the Khmer farming bonus would be to compare food income from Khmer farms to "well-placed" and "poorly-placed" farms. The worse your farm placement is, the more powerful the bonus will be. If Spirit's tests are conducted with optimal farm placement, which probably isn't realistic in most late games, the tests will underestimate the power of the bonus. Another interesting aspect of the bonus is that the food trickles in 1 by 1, instead of in lumps of 10 or 15. This means that your food comes in slightly earlier, so that it's kind of like your food drops come in about half a cycle earlier than other civs'.

But what if you just need 1 food to click up? Do you have to wait until the villager is at max food?

Will this be T90's favorite civ now?

I think there’s a bug with new pathfinding. For example, if i have a stack of mixed unit (max60) on defensive stance, i send them auto attack on an area, they sometimes acting like previous battering ram. They suddenly lost interest in whatever target thryre attacking along the way and proceed to the original order.

Everyone seems to be ignoring the major benefit of the Khmer farming bonus. The income goes straight into stockpile and doesn't stay with the villager. That is huge. If you have 10 vills collecting 1 food/sec, you can produce a scout every 10 sec after the drop off, for Khmer that happens 2 secs sooner because you get the 80 food faster. And that's without considering the walk time to drop off. It might not seem like much but allows to bring scouts out a lot faster than other civs. And that's not only scouts, an upgrade that costs 150 food will be clickable 5 secs faster as well. It adds up.

But how does Chinese Block Printing affect the Aztec Dark Age Farming Rate?

Interesting monument change. Very often in a FFA people are reluctant to be first to take the monument, but now they may be more motivated.

Are you going to redo the civ overviews?

I miss the intro music so much that i had to learn how to play it

Aside from being a big eco boost, it's also a huge convenience to just be able to plop them everywhere

You guys having enemy units walk through your palisades since this patch?

The monument gives resources like ~10 vills. But how much is that counted in Feitorias? :¬]