I had a KLR 650 for 9 years and it was a great bike! I now have a 2014 XT660Z and it is AWESOME! You cant go wrong with either bike, they are both great in their own ways. Cheers from Australia!😎

@holeephuk

4 жыл бұрын

@@90Legends yamaha bit more power,more refined,but on the end of the day is personal choice..you cant go wrong in any of them

@nunyabusinessutube

3 жыл бұрын

which is more reliable, would it be yamaha because efi?

@carleyian

3 жыл бұрын

@@nunyabusinessutube They are both very reliable machines!

Funny thing is, no Tenere in the states, no Klr in Europe.

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

It is what it is...

@kino266

4 жыл бұрын

If you are lucky there's some klr for sale, chances are big it'll be in another country though. I found one in my own country for 1350eur (Belgium) 38000km. Planning to make it awesome and go to mongolia :)

@trionrider

4 жыл бұрын

KLR is sold in some European countries.

Wonderful, it is difficult to find honest opinions in the web about any article, very grateful to both! Regards

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

Our pleasure

Thank you for the video and a nice, safe trip back! Lupo

Good video as usual 👍🏻 If your planning a trip to Scandinavia someday I would be more that happy to ride with you.

It is so nice to have good friends to share about our passion.

Nice to have the choice! Enjoy whatever you travel on. Happy travels

Hey Pavlin, greetings from Poland :) I think, that XRV 750 Africa Twin scholud be tested by such great Traveler as You. Your videos are great extra combined with beer in garage :) greetings ;)

Love your vids! You’re on a roll... So, do something on the DR 650, if you love simplicity. I have a KLR and a DR and the subcontinent of Africa is a great place to ride both...

@artwebb6939

4 жыл бұрын

Love the Dr, not only is a carbureted, you can adjust the valves without removing the camshaft I'm on a dr200 myself right now, as I'm just learning off road skills

Very good Pavlin!

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

My vote for KLR. Hard to explain. Tenere - Dakar style, KLR - world traveler that has nothing to lose.

Yes, dry sump is a bit more work, but I prefer the dry sump. Never knew about until I bought my XT660R. Even with almost 10,000km with current oil, the oil is still fairly clean. My service will be done this month again

Well done guys... great video. I would like a comparison between the Honda NX 650 the Dominator year 1998 and the Yamaha 660 Tenere year 1998

@AshHalls

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a good one

The Tenere was going to cost twice the amount i paid for the KLR and sits in the shed most of the time like other people's bikes. So for the occasional adventure it's perfect.

unrelated to this video but im wondering whats best for first adventure bike, was looking at either yamaha xt660z or 2019 honda cb500x. im on a2 liscence at the moment but planning for big trip through iceland and need a reliabke bike to do it with.

As someone who has not ridden either bike, I like the industrial look of the KLR. I also like the price. I have heard heard other vloggers state that it is one of the most comfortable bikes they have ridden. It has one of the largest fuel tanks in its class. On the other hand, I just don't care for a carbureted thumper engine. I prefer the injected two cylinder engine such as the Tenere has. If I owned a KLR, I would have to do the doohickey, and thermostat fixes, raise the bars, install a better windscreen, and upgrade, and loctite all the chassis fasteners. With the Tenere, what do you need to do other than a few mods to personalize the bike. I love the looks of the Royal enfield 650 INT! I rode a 70s Honda 350, and the looks of the Royal Enfield bring back all of those fond memories. For touring though...? I am very interested in the Tenere 700, and will be thrilled when Pavlin test rides one. For touring, I think it is the better choice. There seem to be a few gripes, but hopefully those will be addressed before the US release. It is expensive compared to the KLR, and RE 650, but it will be cheap compared to the Honda Africa Twin, and much lighter. I saw a reliability chart which was based on real world data, and Yamaha was number 1. That is an important factor to consider. I can't wait for the full length episodes of this trip to post. Thanks Pavlin, and all of your friends who help make these trips possible.

@keeganwrathmall

2 жыл бұрын

Tenere 660 has a single cylinder if I'm not mkstaken?

@scotty2307

2 жыл бұрын

@@keeganwrathmall Yes. It was a much more expensive bike, at the time, than the KLR. Even at that, Pavlin had to make many modifications before it would meet his requirements. I have since looked at the new KLR at my local dealer, and it is just too tall, and heavy for my age, and riding experience.

Hello Pavlin! As you pssibly know, Yamaha launched new Tenere 700. It will be wery interesting to hear your opinion about this motorcycle.

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

I will try it as soon as possible.

so the new Tenere 700, weight is about the same, so would you say it's now 2 levels better and 2 levels more expensive?

Great video, do them all with beer and a barbi mate......the true auzi way!!

Someone else said the same thing. Here in the states we have the KLR, Tenere isn't available. Even the new Tenere 700 is available in Europe now. But in America we have to wait another year. I probably would have preferred the Tenere for the extra power. Our interstate highway system you have to be able to cruise at 80 mph sometimes, and the KLR is too slow. And I hear a lot of people complaining that to cruise at even 70 on the KLR a lot of them burn oil.

i have a klr 650, dependable, and easy to maintain (and if i drop it, i just pick it up (no big tears)). was getting 4.9L/100k till i cleaned the air filter up to 4.6 now. I use my klr mostly to commute to and from work daily 85kms round trip, alot of that in highway traffic, 110+ km/hr, Klr working hard at 5000 rpms. considering (wish list) Africa Twin next bike just for the highway speeds. luv your videos and to ride. happy trails.

@jordymaas565

3 жыл бұрын

KLR 2010 - 4.5k rpm gets me 110km/hr. prefer 4k or under, mostly.

I reckon you blokes made a good review and will get heaps of subscribers. By the way what was the 4th Australian word you learned?😉

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

Secret!

The best bike is the bike that you ride a lot. Regardless of the features that it may have or not.

My 2013 KLR is a virtual sail in the wind and leaves me feeling l have been wrestling a bull all day (Canadian prairies). My 2015 Super Tenere mocks the wind and doesn’t even blink when it blows. How does the Tenere 660 (and the T700) do in the wind? Thanks Pavlin!

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

More or less the same as the KLR

Can I fix a carburetor? Yes, it's like knitting to me In fact on most singles I can actually pull the pilot Jets sitting on the side of the road without taking the carburetor off of the bike So can most of the Riders I know who started in the 70s and 80s, except for the ones who never serviced their own bikes It's a trade-off, injection on a quality motorcycle usually requires less tinkering, but tinkering is much easier on a carbureted motorcycle What I have found is that most people who spend a lot of time on or near paved roads tend to prefer fuel injection, and most people who go far from civilization tend to prefer carburetors The downside of carburetors other than their trade-offs of course it is as you mentioned, in Europe, most carbureted motorcycles aren't available due to the stringent emissions requirements

Hmmm I see movie maker in the making!!😊😂😆😂 A good video, guys.

What would you choose for an Europe to Asia trip: a XT660Z like you've got or an XRV750 Africa Twin from 2002/3? Does it matter or is it preference only?

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

I will always prefer the Tenere, this Africa is way to heavy and complicated.

@Valc09

4 жыл бұрын

@@motorcycleadventures Thanks for your answer! I didn't expect you to find the Tenere to be less complicated than the Twin.

I think the Honda Transalp is the KLR of Europe. The differences between the two are very market specific based on the conditions in each region, but essentially aimed at like minded people per region. The Tenere on the other hand is rather different, being aimed at a more aggressive off road explorer than either the KLR or Transalp.

What do you think is better on the dirt and off road a newer generation 2 KLR 650 or the new Yamaha tenere 700?

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

Both are great.

Since the Tenere was never sold in the USA I can't comment on the XT 660 Z but the aftermarket is your friend on the KLR however that will bring your cost up to the Tenere's. The KLR Dash and a Zero gravity windshield gives the KLR that Dakar Rally look and better protection for around $150 US. Sasha, blue Loctite is your friend. ;) If the Tenere has similar fuel capacity then the Yammy would edge out the KLR in my mind. However, my KLR isn't going anywhere, we're pals for life.

I am coming back to an adventure bike at age 69. I raced enduro in the 1970s so I am a bit nervous. Its been a long time. I can get a nice KLR for less than $6k here in Australia. The Tenere is too tall for me. I am only 5'7". I am also looking at the G650GS. Its even lower than the KLR. The other great thing about the KLR is the range of accessories and after market bits that are not too expensive. I am still three months away from a decision.

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

Enjoy your future trips man!

So Sasha, if the KLR is not available in Europe will you be able to get parts if you need them?

@pinkiewerewolf

4 жыл бұрын

Plenty of aftermarket options for those parts.

@holeephuk

4 жыл бұрын

So far i didnt need any ,but i need some ,there is always ebay

Maybe the new and "little" improved KLR for 2022 will be in the market. Euro compliant, better seat and windshield, EFI .. Should see a review one day I think. 👍

@motorcycleadventures

3 жыл бұрын

Let's see it first.

Great comparison review. Zero room to argue because you started off saying it's a subjective review. I prefer the Dakar style too. But the dual purpose style is nice. I prefer a twin over a single cylinder. But to be fair, if you upgrade the KLR with accessories to reach the same price point as the ten' I'd bet it could be much harder to decide which is better. The deciding feature? For me.... FI vs a carb. I'd say the Ten' still wins, but only barely. Cheers!

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

Agree

Awesome comparison! Let’s do this..... put the price difference (about $3000) worth of mods into the Klr to make them both equally priced and see which bike you like! I’m betting it’s pretty tough... that’s a lot of upgrades for a Klr because even the mods are cheap... just a thought 😎 Have a beer for me ok? Happy riding 👍

I am curious about your opinnion of the KLE 500!Nobody talk's about this bike,I have one and it's a powerfull good looking,simple and cheap bike!

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

Very rare model. I have seen it few times, but never had a chance to ride it.

@Motoreger

4 жыл бұрын

@@motorcycleadventures Thank you!

Love the KLR (and the DR and the XR)..but in Europe we haven't them no more. You find only very old ones... And that is a shame

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

True

The Yamaha is not available in Canada, next year no KLR either. No doubt the XT is a more refined motorcycle, but that comes with the price tag. Even the mighty Yamaha will have to be modified for the riders weight with springs, most bikes do because it is never one size fits all. So the price point is very important. You can set up the KLR suspension to suit your weight and riding style, set up the cockpit to suit your height and comfort with bar risers (ROX pivot) and handle bar bend, buy your kid a mini bike and still have money to take the wife out for dinner before you hit the cost of the Tenere.

Good try Pavlin but 200 kg circa for 40 hp makes me even be more sure to go for a Drz asap

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

DRZ is great bike, but it is super uncomfortable on the long trips. I need one bike to work good, not great on any conditions, not only off road.

What tank bag is on your klr?

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

Famsa

Here in northern Australia $4000 difference in new price.

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

The same in Victoria

@holeephuk

4 жыл бұрын

New is around 8g ,tenere 12.5 or something..

pavlin how to buy a used tenere from germany? can you do it for me ill give you 200E bonus

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

I am sorry, but no. I am sure you will find more than enough companies to do it for you.

@Spandex08

4 жыл бұрын

@@motorcycleadventures im a new rider, how will i know how to not get screwed when buying a used bike? what companies? give links or mention some

You cannot compare. KLR is like a tractor very industrial you can plow the fields with it. Refined over 30 years and done more miles than a tenere hundred fold. KLR designed for you not your ego and when you sell one you end up buying another above everything available. KLR not the best at anything but its the best bike in the world.

@supertrucker2077

4 жыл бұрын

Shane Harrison couldn’t have said it better myself! Finally someone gets it..😎 Happy riding!

Much better to go with a XT660R over the Tenere 660 .. it’s a whopping 30Kilos lighter, same engine & HP but the 660R pumps out a little bit more torque . 30Kilos is ferking huge.

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

when you have a a bigger tank, fairing and proper subframe the kilograms will be the same.

Tenere 660 es mejor. tiene mejor precio de reventa, y las piezas de Yamaha en América Latina son mas fáciles de conseguir que las de kawasaki, a nivel de performance eh probado a las dos por años y me quedé con la Teneré. Pero sin duda las dos son excelentes motos. Saludos.

@motorcycleadventures

3 жыл бұрын

Cool!

But the big question is.... how good is the new T 700? I tell you: BETTER! 😎

You forgot to tell, that the cons of tha Kawa are actually pros of the Tenere, you get it? The cons of the Tenere are pros of Kawa!

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, exactly!

YAMAHA by far.

na zdrowie mates 😀

@motorcycleadventures

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

let me know the name of dog behind you

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

Bella

The biggest con of the KLR is the brakes. They are absolute shite. It’s a good thing the bike is so damn slow.

@holeephuk

4 жыл бұрын

You dont ride them hard enough 😉

Интересно конечно.... Только не понятно... Мог бы и по русски рассказать...)

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

Могу, но будет тежело.

4.00 ahh KTM?...

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

We are talking about simple and reliable bikes, KTM is not in the list...

Tenere is far more beautiful...

судя по лексикону вы русские, а если так, то хотелось бы послушать это видео не только на английском, но и на русском языке.

@motorcycleadventures

2 жыл бұрын

Я из Болгарии.

@alt13658

2 жыл бұрын

@@motorcycleadventures так или иначе, благодарю за ответ и видео.

По русски бы ещё...

@motorcycleadventures

Жыл бұрын

Cool!

0:00 drama to smoke garbage in a garden in a barrel near the terrace - a total potology

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

Drama for you good fun for us...

@grzegorz77madej

4 жыл бұрын

@@motorcycleadventures where is the fun when you inhale the smell of burnt litter - what exactly is it fun to do?

@adamrichards2072

4 жыл бұрын

Had to look up what potology means...Potology: Dr. Nuke's Guide to the Science of Cannabis and the Sociology of Getting Stoned... Turns out it's a book.

@grzegorz77madej

4 жыл бұрын

@@adamrichards2072 no points

@henningyoutube9563

4 жыл бұрын

Grzegorz probably meant "patologia" right?

Most people don't want to hear about your love for your yamaha! And your 185 cm ! By the time to be more creative!

@motorcycleadventures

4 жыл бұрын

It is free channel. Watch whatever you want.

@haywoodyoudome

4 жыл бұрын

Most people don't want to hear your bitching either.

@mortenviking3196

4 жыл бұрын

Sorry if I hurt you!

@mortenviking3196

4 жыл бұрын

I can take that! Just an observation!

@tomasmonsen1798

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure which the "most pepole" you talk about are. Its pretty obvious that Pavlin loves his Tenere, or he wouldnt have ridden it 160 000 + kilometers... right? Its also quite obvious that the channel is about budget adventure riding, which for most people mean no sponsorship and no frequent changing of bikes ever year - that is actually what "most" ppl are about - working with what you have and making the best of it. I'd say that "most people" watching this channel does it to be inspired by Pavlins way of looking at motorcycle travelling and motorycle adventure riding - it does not need to be expensive, complicated or require new big and cumbersome bikes. I'd say Pavlins channel is the most down to earth and "most people"-friendly channel there is - he's like anybody, you, me whoever. If he can do it on his "old" bike, so can you, me whoever... Also a tip for you in the future - if you want a change - don't just complain but instead leave creative feedback like "You are 185cm, can you make a video like this but maybe talk about options for ppl who are 170cm or shorter?" - That would have been some real good criticism that could lead to change and new content.