This is an interesting form by a hard-working student with good focus. Yes, classical Chinese kung-fu forms incorporate the Qigong with the martial techniques and their connecting transitions. Southern Praying Mantis, Bak Mei, Yau Kang Mun, and another southern kung fu style, the very rare Bok Fu Pai (White Tiger) system all have similar stances, postures and body mechanics, but slightly differing internal energy cultivation methods (Qigong).

Great to see another branch of the Southern Mantis tree. Please continue to share your art and open our eyes to the various expressions of this fantastic system. Thank you for sharing, Best regards

Your face shows determination and you show strength/power in your moves. I applaud you!!

this style was taught by sifu heung khan seong in tangra kolkata. the style had never been named as such. it is a southern mantis style that has not been named. sifu abhijeet mukherjee the one performing the ki-bu-jin form and sifu lee-kuo-sen (seen performing fa-khian) are the masters of the present generation. i have been a student of the system for the last 10 years.

i think it could be an original jook lum temple form because sifu yaap mun had learnt the style from a temple in southern china though we do not have any information on the name of the temple. he was probably a monk who escaped when some temple had probably been destroyed. then he was working in the merchant navy as a cook wher sifu chen met him.

@SonarWavePulse Quite right,thank you ,although Toph's style is Chuka Southern Mantis of GM Sammy Wong as taught by Sifu Manuel Rodrigues.

Dear Neil, the late GM,K.S.Heung,discouraged not only weight training but calisthenics as well,this is due to the fact that the mechanics of the style are very detailed and in order for them to work at their optimum they need to work within the parameters of a very defined physical structure.

the first 4 or five months are just spent on learning stance training and punches. there is a lot of intricacy involved in the footwork. it usually takes 1n half to 2 years of basic training before one can start ki-bu-jin.

seriously? wow next time im in india possibly this year im coming to calcutta to train with you guys for a week or two!

@Pakua4581 Yes I was. I practiced along side with you, ahLam, Kuo, Sham, Manoj brothers. etc

@artistickone The complete first form 'Kiu Bu Jun' demonstrated here is an energy building form,i.e training chi/prana

thank you my friend,its an interesting reference you have made it will be a learning experience for us in investigating this link to chow gar.

Hi Bruce, Thanks for the clarification,Ive just returned from a training trip to Calcutta and may have just seen the picture of your fathers training group,with him as well.

thanx for such n awsome insight.......can u post any more incidents of inter style contests as u hav posted b4

if you know what your looking for, this guy is awesome! Great mantis!

@artistickone The energy work in classical Chinese Martial Arts ( not the modern Wushu rubbish)is highly detailed,i.e you can not separate the chikung with the fighting aspects,the energy work is what powers the fighting aspects.The first form that is presented here is a perfect balance of yin/yang that is hard and soft energies,the body structure and breathing combined with the actions work on developing the chi.

@sampochin The best known ones are from our lineage, the late Sifu's Chen Kiu and K.S.Hsuing and the current masters,Sifu's Abhijit Mukerji and Lee Kuo Sen.

the names of the forms performed are ki-bu-jin ( nine step arrow) and the other one is fa-khian. this was a style taught by sifu k.s.heung in tangra kolkata. the style has seen three generations in kolkata itself. starting with sifu chen kiu who learnt it from a master by the name of yaap mun while working in a ship. the style was passed on to sifu hsieung khan seong who died in the year 2000. hsieung sifu had learnt it in the late 1940's from chen sifu who had been staying in kolkata.

@Pakua4581 I remember Sifu K.S. Hsuing said his master was Tseng Kiu

Thanks for your comment,please do write in more detail.

@indyprns Yes,Sifu Hsuing's teachers name was Chen Kiu,who was very famous in the Tangra/Chinatown area as a fighter. Sifu Chen Kiu learnt the system while he was a sailor somewhere around 1905 to 1910 from a gentlemen named Yaap Muun.He taught Sifu Hsuing during the early 1950's. Were you also a student of Sifu Hsuing?

not as yet!!! planning to come up with one more soon!! will inform u!!

@abhijitb38 "Pei Moiy school in Tangra (Chinatown) of Calcutta,India"

Looks awesome, I can also see why they chose this style for Toph. But I did mute it, the music is irritating.

@Pakua4581 Yes, I was. I practiced there along with Ah Lam, Sham, yourself aswell.

@subratabanik Thank you!

The "physical structure" that is required is built up over a period of time by the novice student through the training,if the student were to add weight training /calisthenics etc then it would be a constant tug-of-war between the styles mechanics and the kind of physique that weight training builds. kind regards Yasser Bilgrami

From what I know from my friends in the Chuka Southern Praying Mantis Pai,the choreography for Toph was done by Sifu Manuel Rodrigues using the Chuka Southern Mantis System as a reference point.Look for videos of the Chuka Saam Bo Jin form you will see a lot of Tophs moves are from this source.

Both SPM and Ngo Cho Kun are worth exploring and have their merits,in the end the choice is yours.I cant speak for Ngo Cho Kun but I find SPM to be a very powerful system to train in.

Thank you for your kind words!

@351brock,thank you ,opinions vary

like our style which was just called tong long khian throughout, chris daniels told me dat they had named it liu family chu gar since the style had never been named before.

Master Lee is awsome.. Soon we will meet

Hi, I assume youre talking about the first form demo (Ki Bu Jin),we actually had to "speed it up" as the form requires at least 12 minutes to perform! :-)

This system is from Moiyang village in Guangdong province brought to India by Sifu Chen, this is not chow or Jook lum.

Its "the Boxer" by Simon & Garfunkel.

Ok, let's set the record straight. I learned 9 Step Arrow from my father when I was younger. He doesn't remember much of the material, however. I met Rodriguez Sifu in '98 and studied Chu Ka under him. I did teach a 9 Step Arrow seminar at his school, and I mentioned that though I did not know which family it belonged to, it did resemble the Chow Gar. I studied with Whitrod Sifu in 2005-06. I have never studied Jook Lum under Poo Yee Sifu. -Bruce-

@Pakua4581

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this and apologies for any misunderstanding.I would also like to thank you for sharing some very rare and rather precious pictures attached to our Pai that are in your collection.You are our Senior Kung Fu brother separated only by Geography.My regards to your Family.

1 thing i wud like 2 ask mr.bilgrami......i read in a post of yours or someone else related to this style that late grandmaster k s heung discouraged weight training? can u kindly explain a layman like me the reason?? did he also discourage calisthenics like push-ups,squats or abdomen crunches???? waiting for ur answer..... with regards Neil

Whats the difference between northern and southern prey mantis fist?

Sorry guys, but Toph uses Hung Gar, not Mantis. Google is your friend.

@Pakua4581 I know very little about martial arts in general, but I did know that weight training and traditional martial arts like kung fu are not supposed to mix. Yet you also mention "calisthenics". This would exclude simple exercises like push-ups and sit-ups. What is the reasoning behind that?

@yunshen is there southern mantis masters in india?

@JookLumSon I have sent you a PM sir.

Nice video. Real kung fu.

mantis system is an internal style.

Toph's style is hung gar (earth style) not southern mantis

Amazing!!!

ok now i am seeing yasser! maybe we can talk in inbox?

The sifus demonstrating are direct 5th generation lineage masters,just like Gin Foon Mark is5th generation for his lineage. The Southern Mantis family is very large,Jook Lum Mantis has many branches as well. Your comment only reflects your ignorance ,we will gladly cross hands with you if you would like to experience our systems combat effectiveness.

Impressive, most Impressive.

This reminds me of Goju

Ah sorry, my fault. Toph was the exception.

Just like Toph ^_^

@TheChiFlows You dont know how to read SPM practice/forms at all.

coldnt u play sumthing more dramatic

好功夫

@Pakua4581

8 жыл бұрын

+hakkalogin Chi Thank you for your kind words!

I KNOW MR, ABHIJIT MUKHERJEE,,HE IS A GENTLEMAN & REAL FRANK PERSON,,, I WOULD LIKE TO POST THE PRIME VIDEO IN MY FB ACCOUNT,,KINDLY GUIDE ME,,,,,,

@Pakua4581

7 жыл бұрын

Hello,Thank you for your kind words,please copy and paste the below URL to your Face Book page: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ipytrrtqXZS4g7Q.html

Nice tao, but please stop that music..

I think I know Shifu Lee...is he a maths teacher?

@Pakua4581

3 жыл бұрын

Yes he is

@krishnendudutta5837

3 жыл бұрын

@@Pakua4581 I started practice 20 years back but couldn't continue...kindly share me your number....Does Mr Lee still teaches kung fu?

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