“That’s the thing about world wars, even the winners lose” might be the best line

@SamAronow

18 күн бұрын

That's not an original; I got it from HistoriaCivilis and I'm sure he got it from other sources.

@nathanseper8738

17 күн бұрын

@@SamAronow Still an epic line on the sheer carnage of WW1.

@ag7898

11 күн бұрын

Heck... doesn't even have to be a world War. KZreadr Ryan McBeth constantly says about the Russo-Ukrainian War, "There is no winners and losers in war. Only one side losing a little less."

@dr.victorvs

3 күн бұрын

I mean... the US's and USSR's superpower status were entirely confirmed by WW2. The US economy had vertiginal growth.

An Australian Murdoch lying on the news? Preposterous!

@SamAronow

18 күн бұрын

His father.

@superdevton1137

17 күн бұрын

@@SamAronowI suppose the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree

@patdan123

17 күн бұрын

@@SamAronow like father like son I guess. I know it sounded a bit reductive and libelous but that is what they choose to be. Libelous tabloidmongers ala the hearsts

@DiamondKingStudios

16 күн бұрын

⁠@@patdan123At any rate libel against libel is probably much less condemned as libel against truth, and understandably so. When one is demonstrably shown to be untruthful, other rumors against him hold greater weight, as honesty is a commonly-known enduring sign of character to most of us.

@DiamondKingStudios

16 күн бұрын

@@SamAronowLachlan’s grandfather also?

I applaud the use of the Bleucher horse whinny. Also, was this the first episode with video footage? Mazal tov on completing the WW1 arc.

@SamAronow

21 күн бұрын

Film footage was first used in "The Dreyfus Affair," but not to this extent. Thanks!

@elh93

20 күн бұрын

I think you mean Bleucher [horse whinny]

@zachesherman

18 күн бұрын

And also if we disregard the present-day footage used in early episodes, like of the 1st Temple-era aqueducts and the house in Jaffa in the Jesus episode.

Murdoch Family origin story was unexpected. Great video.

@israelilocal

18 күн бұрын

especially with all the conspiracies that they are "part of the Jewish elite"

@ElvingsMusings

17 күн бұрын

@@SamAronow I am not sure I understand. I didn't mean it like that. I meant that I didn't think the Murdoch family reached as far back as World War I in terms of their chicanery.

@SamAronow

17 күн бұрын

@@ElvingsMusingsI was responding to someone else whose comment is gone.

@ElvingsMusings

17 күн бұрын

@@SamAronow Ah ok. Thanks.

@Mackyle-Wotring

8 күн бұрын

I feel surprised and unsurprised at the same time considering Keith Murdoch's son, Rupert Murdoch, being involved with Fox News and the Tabloid industry.

As an Aussie, I'm so happy to see Monash mentioned here! I'd forgotten just how important he was. I know I learned about him in school, but I just remembered he was a good Australian-Jewish General in WW1. Now I'm even more proud of him.

@weevilstevil9901

18 күн бұрын

Honestly the paltry state of Australian's education about Australia itself is probably at fault. I myself can barely recall being taught much more than the broad strokes of Aussie history in school, and hell the vast majority of Australians are woefully unaware of Aussie history as is. Tell me, can you recall the first Aussie PM off the top of your head? Probably not, yet you can most likely name the first US president!! Makes me sad. That's why we should all read the 'Girt' series of Aussie history :)

@SamAronow

18 күн бұрын

@@weevilstevil9901 I was surprised by this. In my research about Monash I read a lot of handwringing from Australian politicians/intellectuals about how seemingly impossible it is to make Australian history feel relevant to New Australians. This baffled me for two reasons. (1) I'm American, and we're _very_ good at teaching immigrants and their children that our history matters to them. (2) John Monash is, like, _the model New Australian_ before the concept existed. This should be easy.

@SamAronow

18 күн бұрын

@@weevilstevil9901 Edmund Barton. I didn't even have to look it up. Unfortunately I only remember because he was cited as a counterpoint to George Washington for how irrelevant/forgotten he is. Not that that's necessarily _wrong:_ like I said, Australia was a _state_ well before it was truly a _nation,_ and its nationhood is very much a product of the World Wars which were after his time. Additionally, the US President isn't a fair comparison because he's also the ceremonial figurehead, and Washington has even more significance as Commander-in-Chief of the Continental Army and was basically drafted to be President based on that. A prime minister is just one of many dispensable public servants, which I actually prefer.

@weevilstevil9901

18 күн бұрын

@@SamAronow Honestly it is unfathomable to me, even as someone that grew up in Australia, how little Australians seem to care about being Australian. Very well done on the Barton recollection! You've now achieved more than what 98.37%* of Aussies are capable of. I suppose that you've plucked at exactly the errant chord. Symbols. Australia cares precious little for her symbolic characters and stories that may aid in nation-building (sans Gallipoli and Ned Kelly, of course). *Actual figure may differ.

@weevilstevil9901

18 күн бұрын

@@SamAronow Another factor which isnoften overlooked is the odd shadow of Australia's fourth most famous foundational Jew. Sir Isaac Isaacs*. Isaacs was desperate to frame himself as having rejected his Jewish heritage, especially in a way that tied him to Zionism and responsibility to his community. This, coming so soon after Monash's support of Zionism in the postwar-years, and his fledgling identification as a symbol of Australian multiculturalism, muted Monash's memory outside of his martial achievements. The enforcement of the White Australia Policy during the second Yellow Scare come WW2, as well as the rather public refutation of the Kimberly scheme didn't help matters either. It's only since the 80's that Monash has been more widely recognised for his cultural and national symbolism and legacy rather than just martial. I hope Australia gets better at enjoying its own history. *A yid so nice they named him twice!

Since this is the last WWI video and as such an end of a chapter on your channel I wanted to say that this chapter was brilliant and what an incredible way to end it. By this time most of my great grandparents were young teens living in Warsaw, Eastern Galicia, Vienna, Morocco and Tunisia I know some of their parents were recruited especially my Moroccan and Tunisian ancestors

@milobem4458

18 күн бұрын

It may be the end of WW1, but our great-grandparents in Galicia wouldn't get a break for another couple of years, which I suspect will be covered in the coming episodes. Polish-Soviet border went quiet in 1921.

@israelilocal

18 күн бұрын

@@milobem4458 I am well aware both of my branches in Galicia just so happened to live in the border regions of Galicia one branch on the Galicia-Volhyna border to the north and the other on the Galicia-Podolia border to the East.

I really like how you show the Jewish perspective on events from so many different sides. Really shows well how Jews at this time were mostly very attached to the countries they lived in. On one side you've got Victor Klemperer the German nationalist already writing in his diary, on the other side Alfred Dreyfus (and his entire family) were proving themselves to be the staunchest French patriots. I look forward to videos about Jews in the USSR - my great-grandfather massively profited from the Bolshevik takeover, eventually rising to lieutenant-colonel. Lieutenant Colonel David Khoder - who could have imagined such a thing when he was a boy growing up in a shtetl? Our family only left the former USSR in the 21st century. In previous videos, many people commented with stories about ancestors who left, and it will be nice to find out more about the people who stayed.

Sam Aronow, can you please make videos on these following topics: - History of Jewish communities in Penang, Singapore and Manado (that way you can talk about Singapore's David Marshall) - History of Yemeni Jews - History of Sephardic Jews in Suriname and the Caribbean - History of Montreal's Jewish community (that way you can talk about Montreal bagels and Mordecai Richler) - History of Jewish communities in Latin America (that way you can talk about Don Francisco, Alejandro Jodorowsky, Jacobo Timerman and Silvio Santos) - History of South Africa's Jewish community (that way you can talk about Helen Suzman and Harry Schwarz) Thank you very much and please accept my requests.

@gamermapper

18 күн бұрын

He's usually much more active on Reddit than in KZread comments

@smorcrux426

18 күн бұрын

It is so bizzare to me that Yemen was not even mentioned once until now especially in zionism, since basically all early zionism was Yemeni

@ryalloric1088

18 күн бұрын

​@@smorcrux426Yemen has actually been mentioned; see for example the India and Ethiopia videos.

@Lunaticsofearth

18 күн бұрын

What about South Africa’s Jody Scheckter, F1 world champion

@yellowlightsyndrome9959

18 күн бұрын

If the talks about Montreal he should also talk about Sam Steinberg and Sam Bronfman (the former was my great grandfather)

"Where there had never been a Jewish Question..." that resonated with me. I'm not Jewish. But I've always wondered what it must be like to live in a place where racism toward my people doesn't have a home.

@SamAronow

18 күн бұрын

He was being very literal. Australia is the only country with a large Jewish population where emancipation was never legislated because it was always assumed. Australia has a lot of problems but this isn't one of them. Also another thing they can flex on New Zealand, which had the first Jewish prime minister in modern history yet didn't allow Jewish immigrants for decades afterward. ETA: It also probably wasn't seen as necessary to discriminate between people who were already being sent there as punishment.

@weevilstevil9901

17 күн бұрын

@@SamAronow Hi folks, i'm here to be a downer. The statement about never having a Jewish Question in Australia is quite daintily counterbalanced by a far darker mirror. The Kimberly plan was a proposal to shove a bunch of Jewish refugees from pre-war Germany and Poland into the relatively under-settled Kimberly region of Western Australia. The Australian government rejected the plan via the following claim: ""as we have no real racial problem, we are not desirous of importing one"...mentions of their contemporaneous treatment of Aboriginals aside....jesus fucking christ aye. Also as for New Zealand, I was born there! In its tiny and gorgeous Jewish community. Most of us left in 2004 facing brutal antisemitism which was partially state-condoned 🤷‍♂️🥰.

@ehudshapira2745

17 күн бұрын

​@@weevilstevil9901 What happened in 2004?

@felixbabuf5726

17 күн бұрын

@@ehudshapira2745He’s massively overblowing what actually happened, but feel free to look up “Israel-New Zealand Passport Scandal” since KZread hates links apparently

@ronmaximilian6953

16 күн бұрын

​@@SamAronowUnited States has never had emancipation of Jews

The arc is at an end! How fantastic! Also mister Aronow, I commented on an old video and shall do so here to keep up to speed. I just found John Henry Patterson's grave in Moshav Avichayil!!! HOW COOL!!??

@bomoose

18 күн бұрын

woah

As an Aussie, great to finally see Monash, and almost in time for ANZAC Day too. They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old, Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning, We will remember them.

And while Wilson made Europe safe for democracy, he did otherwise back home .

Amazing episode and very much long awaited! I'm originally from Melbourne and my family has a very strong connection to the Monashs. John Monash's congregation (also happens to be my family's) is one of the oldest in Melbourne and is a gorgeous looking synagogue!!

"How many Sabaton songs will be referenced in this video?" "Yes"

@SamAronow

17 күн бұрын

Enlighten me.

@gideonm.7425

16 күн бұрын

"The Lost Batallion"

The quality of these videos just keeps improving, both content and production value. Thank you!

Just wanna say, this is some of the best historical videos I’ve ever seen. Learned more stuff about WWI than I did in community college. Keep up the amazing work💯🙌

Wow I remember a couple of years ago writing in your comments about Australian Judaism and Monash in particular. Sam you’ve made my day, month and half year.

Jewish Australian here, had no idea why John Monash was famous. Thanks for the education.

>19 Jewish generals in the first world war This list is fascinating for the states which are absent on it.

Sam, you can't expect us to listen to your narration with the banger "Over There".

Monash is on the fucking hundred dollar bill!!! 😂❤

So good, again and again you make such incredible videos, thank you Sam!

My great grandfather served in the "Lost Battalion". He was in Company H of the 308th Infantry. However, he was wounded in action about a month before the 77th division launched their attack into the Argonne. We have his two journals from the war, along with a series of letters and photos from his service and the purple heart he later received.

I love the art style, humbleness, professionalism and proper sourcing of your videos. You can't help but enjoy them.

Awesome as usual .you wouldn't believe how much I look for ward to your editions

My great-grandfather fought in St. Mihiel. Cool that you mentioned it.

Opening with Ecclesiastes like an absolute savant ! Right out of the gate you know its going to be a good history-buff episode. Thank you for your awesomeness, Sam.

You are doing a great job of storytelling.

In addition to the actual content and presentation of your channel, can I point out that you have some of the BEST maps out there?

SUPER episode! 👍👍

"yadda yadda ... Operation Blucher" * NNNNEIGH! * Damn it, Sam, that got me. XD

An outstandingly good video.

What are the cities at 33:18? I recognize Berlin, Istanbul, the no clue what the third one is, London, Paris, and again no clue, Sofia, Alexandria, Jerusalem, no clue, new york, Tel aviv, DC.

@SamAronow

18 күн бұрын

Berlin, Istanbul, Lisbon, London, Paris, Thessaloniki, Vienna, Alexandria, Jerusalem, Melbourne, New York, Tel Aviv, Washington.

@everettduncan7543

17 күн бұрын

I thought that was Haifa and not Tel Aviv​ @@SamAronow

You summarize and give a better narrative end to WW1 then some documentaries that focus on the war do

I’m American, and a student of the war and era, and yet learned who Monash was only a few years ago. Wow. He all but invented multinational interoperative cooperative combined arms warfare. Today, that concept is core to collective security and NATO. Australia should be very proud.

What a fascinating man. I love the role that Monash and Currie and even Smuts played in the war

Thank you.

Absolutely delightful. I would pay so much for a feature film about Monash

Monash now joins the ranks of fascinating characters like Trumpeldor and Sarah Ahronsohn that I've never heard of prior to Sam Aranow's videos!

@amsellem

16 күн бұрын

If only he had accepted the proto-Israel proposal...

@mikhailv67tv

15 күн бұрын

You need an Australian $100 bill Monash is Australian and Jewish

Oh yes, a nice addition in the middle of Pesach!

@SamAronow

18 күн бұрын

I wish I'd known about ANZAC Day so I could release it yesterday.

@patrickkelmer6290

18 күн бұрын

@@SamAronow Still a good timing!

I’m assuming we’re talking about Rosa Luxembourg next?

Would you make a video about the Balfour Declaration? If so, then I can't wait for that topic!!

@SamAronow

16 күн бұрын

It's in the WWI playlist: "The Jewish Legion (1917-1918)."

Didnt even know this was up, i didnt get a notification

Well done. A century later John Monash is well remembered and is still held in the very highest regard by Australians.

Great video! I found it interesting that the last thing in your list of achievements at 37:17 that Monash was the (first) President (and one of the founders) of the ZFA. With his fierce Australian nationalism I think his presidency here is an interesting decision. On another note, as we are in the late 1910s, youth movements such as Blau-Weiss, Hashomer Hatzair and Dror are beginning to emerge. Will you be delving into youth movements in a later video?

Great intro.

thank you for ewerything i learn a lot a thing

Murdoch is Rupert Murdoch's (owner of Fox) father.

The 77th Infantry still exists, as the 77th Sustainment Brigade, based in Fort Dix, NJ.

Hey Sam have been greatly enjoying all of these videos. It's very interesting to me having watched this entire series how well Jewish History works as a lens for all of human history both in terms of longevity and geographic spread. It doesn't work perfectly of course as places like Ancient America and swathes of Africa and Asia are ignored or are at least of lesser importance but still fascinating.

Out of curiosity Sam, how did you come across the primary source of the NYT op-ed published on 06/10/1917? What was your process? I'm fascinated by how you are able to weave so many sources together. Kol hakavod!

@SamAronow

18 күн бұрын

I got an NYT subscription for one day, looked in their archives, and immediately canceled. It was surprisingly cheap, so I'll probably use that tactic again.

Monash deserves a miniseries. To quote Australians, he's a fucking legend!

15:01 I disagree, his plans werent overambitious. Moving his drinking cabinet 12 inches closer to Berlin isnt that ambitious

@SamAronow

18 күн бұрын

That wasn't his intention. He was trying to advance like 20 miles every day. That was the problem.

@jonyprepperisrael60

18 күн бұрын

@@SamAronow and all he got is a desk size dirt advancment. With a little worm on it

Love learning some Australian history in this one, even though my mum's side of the family is Australian I was raised in America so the only Australian history I ever learned growing up was the general, half-remembered stuff I got from them lol

Great video, learnt alot. What is the name of the accordion song, starting at 34:25? Thank you

@SamAronow

16 күн бұрын

"Kass' Theme" from BOTW. All music is listed in the end credits of each video.

In news completely unrelated to this video the Padres are one game back from the NL West.

17:52 I think j just did the most sarcastic auidble gasp of my life

I would point out that the word Nationalists meant something different at the time in Australia, as can be seen by PM Billy Hughes being a Nationalist... after being the Labour leader.... and becoming the Labour leader again later We still have a major party called the Nationals

@SamAronow

17 күн бұрын

Yes, I was going to say his nationalism was more Bob Hawke than Pauline Hanson.

You should do a video on Jewish Racing drivers, like Stirling Moss and Jody Scheckter

I had no idea George V was a pirate

Great work with Monash here - a clearly underrated general in a war full of donkey leaders.

Monash was fucking based

Funny,I noticed that out of the 19 Jewish generals there werent any British ones. I understand America and their small armies at the start of the war, and other commonwealth nations since they either had a small army like NZ or a small jewish community but Britian I do not, especially wince they had a jewish generalin 1887 like you mentioned in the previous episode in the comments.

I love this Channel. Many thanks. In a few weeks, I Will share with you the story of my family. Some were the Wasserbergers and Landaus of Krakow. From the other side, the Reichmanns. The 1933 Bernheim Petition was issued from the desk of my grand grandfather, Marek. He never told us that. I discovered researching for myself, last year.

Keith Murdoch. Any relation to Rupert?

@baelonthebrave5474

17 күн бұрын

He's Rupert's father

11:57 I think that was every General in that era

Where is third aliya video?

There is a moshav called Kfar Monash.

Why are comments on the next video turned off?

@SamAronow

12 күн бұрын

Because it's just a promo. Why, have you found a technical issue with the survey? I'd be happy to address it.

lol Murdoch of course.

Elliot Roberts voicing Monash?!?

Armee Polski sent 23,000 from Chicago in 1917, for the win.💪🇺🇲🇵🇱🇮🇱

Bit of a niche topic but have you ever thought about maybe a side episode about the way that Jewish creators basically invented the American comic book? The Superhero genre specifically? I know the 60s and especially the 40s would be a very heavy time for this show so it might be something fun to do on a tangent.

@SamAronow

18 күн бұрын

I’ve thought about it, but the Scots might take issue with that statement.

@samwill7259

17 күн бұрын

@@SamAronow I say you should totally do it. Siegel, Shuster, Kirby, Simon, Lee of course. You could probably find way more than that. I just...you know I think you should take every chance to do something a little less dark and heavy. Jewish creation and triumph and all that nice stuff

Now that we are going into the postwar era, are we going to hear about John Maynard Keynes and the accusations of antisemitism that libertarians make about him?

13:38 I'll try to find the first name of these French Generals !

Science, literature, art and music. The SLAM subjects

Strange Welsh accent on Lloyd George....

Australia being in any sense tolerant during the period seems at odds with its' reputation as somewhere nationalism of the Anglo and Protestant kind ran rampant. The Dominion territories were effectively independent by 1918 with participation in the war not guaranteed without local input. You mention Australia having never had a Jewish Question, surely that also applies to India at the time?

13:36 Fascinating that twenty years after Dreyfus, France has more Jewish generals than all other powers combined

OK, I’m getting an AUS$100 now!

Another 30 years war, not a bad way to recon the years between 1914 to 1945.

Thank you for enlightening me on the importance of John Monash. Sadly I feel we are at the precipice of yet another age of bigotry

Blucher!

Event he winners lose... At least most of the time looking at the Untied States.

It is a bit strange, to see that Sir John Monash's name scores only two places in Israel's toponymy, a street in Tel Aviv and a charming Moshav Northeast of Nétagnât on route 4. You'd think that such a Gibor Israel would have a street by his name in every city of the New Chelm! Hey Jerusalem municipality, I'm looking at YOU!

@SamAronow

17 күн бұрын

1. I don't think he would have wanted that. 2. Northern hemisphere bias.

@DanielLLevy

17 күн бұрын

@@SamAronow 1. Maybe, but I do! 2. That where most of WWI took place. Namibia was a footnote...

@DanielLLevy

17 күн бұрын

@@SamAronow 1. Maybe, but I do! Didn't you mention he headed Australia's Zionist Federation? 2. That's where most of WWI took place. Namibia was a footnote...

@SamAronow

17 күн бұрын

Monash also tends to get downplayed outside of Australia as a major player in the war, especially by the British. That may play a part.

THEY PUT A JEW ON THE $100 NOTE I CANNOT

Your analysis of British generalship and the role of the colonial forces (dumping ground etc.) is wildly inaccurate

@BitspokesV2

17 күн бұрын

How so?