Been training in Jiu Jitsu for just over 2 months now, my first day in training I went up against this skinny 14 year old kid and within 1 minute he got me to tap, and I'm 23. Jiu Jitsu can kill your ego if you aren't prepared for it

@critiquemytechnique1135

3 жыл бұрын

Same exact thing with me. I was a really jacked 190 pound wrestler 21 years old at a mma gym and after i took down a 130 pound 14 year old he triangled me immideiately. It bothers me still lol. Martial arts will always humble you if you stay consistent

@TheBattlefieldPro97

3 жыл бұрын

@@critiquemytechnique1135 how long have you been training in BJJ?

@critiquemytechnique1135

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBattlefieldPro97 off and on, mostly off for about 10 years

@critiquemytechnique1135

3 жыл бұрын

@Chavez 88 100% agree. Bjj can expose your flaws to yourself

@ayomarvo

3 жыл бұрын

Big facts!

How tf does Joe always find a way to end up talking about Jiu Jitsu? That dude was literally talking about technology 😂😂😂

@user-lk1ky1hx5r

3 жыл бұрын

he is a black belt

@stellarguymk

3 жыл бұрын

Lex Friedman is the one that brought it up. He mentioned the "touch of death" then MMA and it transitioned into BJJ

@adamjosiah123

3 жыл бұрын

They are both black belts.

@Frogswilly

3 жыл бұрын

Manu Barboza because it’s great 👍

@arminmontana1704

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

Aikido is the physical representation of how your girlfriend argues.

@5thBabbitt

5 жыл бұрын

I'm dead I hope others may respect such a level of humour

@rjw4149

5 жыл бұрын

🏆

@aberagrant9000

5 жыл бұрын

OwenEx stfu bitch ur martial arts doesn’t work on me when I got my glock

@realtree008

5 жыл бұрын

Abera Grant look out we have a bad ass

@hurrifanc.3434

4 жыл бұрын

@@tyleroldham4676 GOT EM

8:53 Joe starts getting into jiu-jitsu vs other MA

@dallionrenfroe6248

5 жыл бұрын

Stephen Willard Not all hero’s wear capes

@SeganHealthHacker

5 жыл бұрын

THANKS

@mikemma6695

4 жыл бұрын

Stephen Willard my man

@joshhead9368

4 жыл бұрын

Legend

@BoazYoshiYahBanYasharalah

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks man

Aikido is great if everyone is drunk and untrained except you.

@makerstudios5456

5 жыл бұрын

jo7dan119 Those aren’t aikido techniques though. They are from classical jujitsu. The founder of Aikido was a student of Daito-ryu Aiki-Jitsu. He just made his Aikido much more peace and love after WW2 and his experiences with a small Japanese cult. Aikido didn’t really invent anything. It just layered a pacifist philosophy over a bunch of previously deadly techniques.

@thegreenwave6741

5 жыл бұрын

Aikido isn't that practical. With that being said, I learned Yon Kajo nerve techniques from Yoshinkan Aikido. They can be used when grabbing opponents, and if used correctly, are fucking painful. It's the most hard core Aikido, but still not too practical. The footwork and balance work is useful though. So are front and back rolls. I prefer bjj though.

@thegreenwave6741

5 жыл бұрын

@@makerstudios5456 Well put.

@MattIsLoling

5 жыл бұрын

or if your fighting people at a retirement home

@stevenjp911

5 жыл бұрын

It was great in the time of the Shogun era

I remember my first day on the matts. It was one of the most humbling and important lessons of my life. I got dominated so badly by a blue belt and for the first time in my life I was shown how vulnerable I really was against someone who was trained to fight. For many, this experience mades them walk away, but for me it made me want to learn how not to vulnerable anymore. Nearly 3 years later I’m a blue belt myself and I hope I already have, or will someday give someone else a similar experience to what I had on my first day and motivate them to learning Jiu Jitsu.

@Medreg1983

5 жыл бұрын

Cool

@zacharymiles795

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@macruz8503

5 жыл бұрын

0TheMihn0: how much do you pay for your classes? I am interesting in training.

@EquinoXReZ

5 жыл бұрын

So basically you just want to destroy some white belts 😂

@chrisregan9903

5 жыл бұрын

If it's taken you 3 years to get a blue belt then clearly you aren't being trained or promoted correctly.

Similarly to Lex, I come from a background of calisthenics and powerlifting, and about two months ago I had my first Brazilian Jiu Jitsu class. I'm athletic, physically built 190lbs, 6ft tall, 20 years old, and yet none of that matters. I got my ass whooped hard by a blue belt who weighed probably no more than 150lbs and was nowhere near me in raw strength. Arm bar, kimura, all sorts of chokes, you name it - he got me in those positions effortlessly, and I couldn't do much about it. Since then I've gotten better, but every class is an incredibly humbling experience. If you're on the fence about starting BJJ, just go for it! You will not regret it.

@ovo3474

Жыл бұрын

How’s it going, you still doing bjj?

@user-sg8kq7ii3y

Жыл бұрын

It's the same for ANY sport, bud. You can be the most fit, athletic, and well-conditioned athlete in the world, but if you don't have knowledge and technical skills in any sport, you will fail, and fail miserably. I've seen big, athletic, muscular men nearly drown in the ocean for the simple reason they did not have knowledge of waves and rip currents. A shark out of water is harmless. A lion in deep water is harmless. A human who is out of his/her element is harmless.

@SINdaBlock411

6 ай бұрын

6ft tall is average, 190 lbs is slightly above average, your poor attempt to hype up jiu jitsu like 20 million people have done before you already failed miserably

@RocArio

4 ай бұрын

@@SINdaBlock411if you haven’t tried it you don’t know.

@SINdaBlock411

4 ай бұрын

@@RocArio always the same with you people, you don't even know me and already you assume I haven't tried it, I've trained judo for 7 years so please respectfully fuck off

Jiu Jitsu guys came into my wrestling room, a purple and blue belt, who never wrestled for an entire year themselves completely fucked my entire team up (we do have many freshman but impressive still) and yesterday I went to their gym to start bjj and the humbling aspect is very true. Found my next new passion

@Javid_74

2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah man! Kind of a strange thing they just rocked ur whole gym but good attitude.

@thomaslanoue7519

2 жыл бұрын

Your Story sounds fake af

@robbeam5599

9 ай бұрын

Hardest transition for me was getting comfortable working off my back

@robbeam5599

9 ай бұрын

A wrestling base has pros and cons for bjj. Coming in with wrestling gives you take downs, balance an understanding of pressure and contoll. A great top game. My first day rolling bjj I caught a guy in an arm triangle. I didn't know what it was even called at the time my wrestling coach called it #2 side or a cross face pin. Once I had the guy in it they talked me through the finer points to get choke. The cons anything involving exposing my back made very uncomfortable. It took a long time to be comfortable working off my back. I am still very lopsided in that my top pressure game is far superior to my sweeps and working from guard. I love bjj but I still miss wrestling, maybe it was the girls checking out our singlets and being a ripped 18 year old lol

@mrsssman23

7 күн бұрын

Give us an update bro whats going on with you

I can't believe Daniel Radcliff knows so much about ai and martial arts

@bloodcurdling3581

5 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha

@ryanmcginlay2001

5 жыл бұрын

Wingardium ju nim chuck 😂

@goldlionshaolinmdlv

5 жыл бұрын

LMFAOOOOOOO 😭

@TheClinchMagazine

5 жыл бұрын

Jajajajaja

@RecencyBiasRadio

5 жыл бұрын

@therainman777 underrated lmao

Just got finished with my first bjj class. The first hour was cardio and drills focusing on footwork. The second hour was grappling and takedowns. I am now going to pursue private lessons atleast twice a week. Martial arts will now be a part of my lifestyle

@swayambasnet8936

Жыл бұрын

How's it going?

@timothybailey404

Жыл бұрын

@@swayambasnet8936 good, in about a month I should get my forst stripe. I'm also hitting the weight room. Having alot of fun with bjj, even though I get worked by the upper belts lol.

@annexgroup6878

Жыл бұрын

That's awesome. Keep rolling brother!!

@intellectualjr8085

Жыл бұрын

@@timothybailey404 I’m thinking of starting are there any teenagers there (I’m 16)

@Zipswastaken

Жыл бұрын

@@intellectualjr8085 yes and that doesn't really matter. Probably better for you if you're going to roll with adults because they are less likely to hurt you.

Joe did not expect him to say jiu jitsu, judo and wrestling when he asked him what marshal arts he trained after the conversation they just had.

The truest martial art, is and always will be, a duel with revolvers at high noon

@kaijupinnosso1854

2 жыл бұрын

You Talkin shit about me boah? Meet me in front of the pub at high noon

@sumuqh

2 жыл бұрын

Horseshit 😁

@flash4901

Жыл бұрын

Il use a bazooka in a revolver fight

Just did my 5th jujitsu class and I got absolutely battered by everyone, I got massively humbled and I love t because it's made me want to get better!

@ccepeda56

2 жыл бұрын

How’s it been going so far? Any progress?

@youravgdude9978

2 жыл бұрын

@@ccepeda56 it's going very well. Still getting squashed, but learning alot.

@keanenfulton4696

Жыл бұрын

@@youravgdude9978 right on dude! Keep at it, I'm almost at my 2 year mark. Only now am I starting to get "good," still got A LOT to learn.

@balbirchall9119

Жыл бұрын

@@keanenfulton4696 thanks for your comment bro, really helps out beginners like me who are worried about how long it will take to finally see major improvements.

@isaialn

Жыл бұрын

@@keanenfulton4696 what color belt

I remember getting manhandled by a bluebelt at an affiliate gym early on in my training, to see someone control me the way he did I knew instantly " Oh theres no fucking way i'm not going to learn this" knowing that blue was the first belt you earned I thought that's such an acquirable skill set to effectively control someone.

@ofathousandstrings2396

2 жыл бұрын

Technically white is the first belt you earn

@TolkienTube

2 жыл бұрын

@Q U A N No, not really. Usually you get get it upon entry/buy it. You do no training to get it.

@MansterBear

Жыл бұрын

@@ofathousandstrings2396 My 9 year old earned his white belt 2 weeks ago, after he did his free trial at our local BJJ gym and I asked him if he wanted to keep doing it before we signed him up to officially join and he said "I want to do this the rest of my life". He earned it by me going to amazon and buying his first Gi and the white belt came with it haha

Loved that humbling moment when I first did jui jitsu

@stuart4860

3 жыл бұрын

yep, been doing martial arts for years........... but jj is a whole new game

@darraghconnolly2553

Жыл бұрын

I started my first BJJ class two weeks ago, my first opponent was a blue belt, at least 5 year younger than me and 40 lbs lighter, before i blinked he had me in an arm bar

It is so cool to see someone that I would consider just a knot head like me and be nice to have a beer with be able to carry on a conversation with men of this caliber. You are my favorite interviewer.

Karate and BJJ saved my life.

Who the heck is this dude some engineer dude or mma shit i am so confused who he is and why he wearing a suit its weird when joe wearing t shirt

@bigchasedawg

4 жыл бұрын

Willy Schwerin I feel you

@petersifuentez6420

4 жыл бұрын

Teaches free self-driving car classes online at MIT. selfdrivingcars.mit.edu/

@dnmabra12

4 жыл бұрын

This guy has all the emotional range of Hayden Christensen in episode 2

@emtm8005

4 жыл бұрын

Devin it’s all course, rough and irritating. and it gets every where

@good52karma77

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe that is why they posted the link below the title to help you: Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #1188: www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5FOu... I.E. Lex Fridman

"It's a martial art that has merit - in a vacuum". LOL

@P12ooF

2 жыл бұрын

"Bro! Have you ever tried to break out of a vacuum?!?!" - super duper master.

Why do I just love to listen to the Joe Rogan show?

In these maddening mellowing times, times where people and also myself had forgotten importance of coming out of your comfort zone, BJJ was truly one of the brightest things that I stumbled upon in my whole life. This martial art truly slaps you in the face. But the slaps are not slaps of hatred but a strikes of meaning and direction to guide you through life.

The truest martial art is and always has been jousting.

@itscork

5 жыл бұрын

Try a slice or two of avocado on your sandwiches.

@buckjansen239

5 жыл бұрын

Who the fuck is out here jousting

@char6102

5 жыл бұрын

@@buckjansen239 Doth thou not joust Sir!?

@quasar4601

5 жыл бұрын

Jousting on horses. lol. Good way to easily DIE. ITS LIKE JUDO times 1,0000

@Jake-cy7to

4 жыл бұрын

@Char Char Binks Jousting on DMT

… Migliarese Brothers as well as Vogel Brothers are great to hear Lex acknowledge on this platform … good stuff 🤙🏼🤘🏼

Everyone one knows the best MMA is Run Fu lol

@dogman5028

4 жыл бұрын

No, it's Gun-Jitsu.

@Kaledrone

4 жыл бұрын

Nuke-Jitsu is even better, the US Air Force used it on the Japanese, twice, and won both times.

@averagedan3282

4 жыл бұрын

These comments killed me lmao😂😂😂😭😭

@mdavis3262

4 жыл бұрын

A Lone Pizza 😭😭

@slenderman8170

4 жыл бұрын

Is that the one where you run away screaming fuck you?

A real hard liver punch is a "touch of death" if done hard enough. look up Bas Ruten liver punching a guy in the ring and causing his liver to rupture.

@davidgambirazio3350

4 жыл бұрын

W B lmao fair point but for the force humans can generate most places aren’t as vulnerable as the part of the liver not protected by the ribs

@Dell-ol6hb

4 жыл бұрын

David Gambirazio or kidneys a kidney punch or god forbid a kidney kick is an instant drop, that shit hurts more than words can describe

@alexanderyurrr7129

4 жыл бұрын

Nope it’s depends how you punch it

@alexanderyurrr7129

4 жыл бұрын

W B it’s depends how you punch it if you punch it soft nope if you punch it hard then yes

@dchiznit209

4 жыл бұрын

A liver punch may not be a touch of death but it feels like one

Joined BJJ 2 weeks ago. Already have had a few minor injuries, bruises, and scratches. But I LOVE IT 🥰 I highly recommend for women. We’ve been missing out trust me! You don’t have to be good at it. Every single person in my class is on their own time and individual journey. We all have personal goals, some compete, some simply enjoy the class.

@saqu7401

11 ай бұрын

blue belt now? or white

Finally Joe invited McLovin. He can really take a punch

Being a musician is to know that deep honesty.

@gianttigerfilms

2 жыл бұрын

the knowing you're always a student

That guys voice is so mundane i literally entered a trance and regained focus on the conversation 5 minutes later...twice

@99jerry72

3 жыл бұрын

So did I haha

@juusokorhonen1628

3 жыл бұрын

And now he has one of the most succesful podcasts on youtube😂 go figure

@RicardoMontania

3 жыл бұрын

@@Couchlover47

Started BJJ 9 months ago, I’m not the biggest guy but have always been physically active and competitive, powerlifting was a huge part of my life, and boy I agree with Lex: this is the most humbling sport but also the most technical. I love how cerebral it is, details and angles matter, adjustments can be made but it’s also quick paced. It’s definitely an absolute art as Joe claims

@SINdaBlock411

6 ай бұрын

bjj folk need to get locked up for life using words like "humble", there's nothing even remotely humble about it, they make fun of other martial arts, bodybuilders, hell even other grappling styles all the time

there is nothing more difficult and at the same time fun as jiu jitsu imo

Joe Rogan i definitely love your breakdowns i do martial arts and your videos have helped me to improve i now do mma training im a baby and do understand what you mean about speacalist like westren boxers vs generalists and just your content in general it makes me think and i love it

"There could be someone out there with magic that could have escaped my grasp" hahahahaha

11:00 somehow I can't see this guy being a "total meathead powerlifter".

@Tecolote41

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing

@sheadoherty7434

3 жыл бұрын

Slimming from the suit perhaps

@tadi3808

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tecolote41 jôjijohih

@tadi3808

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tecolote41 hi

Just started my first day it’s fucking awesome…if your nervous to go in on your first day don’t be… everyone is welcoming and willing to help you get where you need to be

I came here to listen Joe talking about Jiu Jitsu, but the first topic was soooo much interesting, and that guy is smart!

6:50 good quote

IMO, the whole modern Jujitsu split should be treated like this: 1. Learn Judo from zero to 1st Dan black belt for a HEALTHY BASIS. 2. Start learning BJJ to get the higher aspects of Ne Waza, while progressing several Black Belt levels into the refinement of Judo (a 1st Dan Judo Black Belt is not a master, but a "ready student"). 3. When you get your BJJ Black Belt and your 6th Degree Dan Belt in Judo, start AiKido. 4. Aikido looks funny or unrealistic if you take it at face value, but any Judoka who has experienced and been taught Aikido techniques has surely learned that "oh fuck, this is extremely dangerous and painful": Apply Aikido with a Judo mentality, especially with a Judo MASTER mentality is probably the key.

@AlexanderCollis

7 ай бұрын

Step 5 kid punched in the face by a boxer

@danielfrancisco9469

6 ай бұрын

@@AlexanderCollisa boxer obviously beats aikido but a boxer has no chance against a black belt judoka or BJJ fighter, it wouldn’t even be close

@AlexanderCollis

6 ай бұрын

@@danielfrancisco9469 depends who the boxer is and who the bjj fighter is. Great boxer with Good sprawl and wrestling is a nightmare for bjj guy.

@danielfrancisco9469

6 ай бұрын

@@AlexanderCollis we’re talking about style vs style. If a boxer can wrestle then he’s basically a mixed martial artist. The point remains that a boxer that knows nothing else loses to a BJJ fighter or judoka almost every time

@user-zo4br7ml5x

3 ай бұрын

@@danielfrancisco9469not if the jiu jitsu clown is knocked out

I worked out at the Quincy Vale Tudo club and went up against highschool/college wrestlers and football players. I was almost 30 and trying to get in shape while learning/improving grappling. I learned so much from everyone that submitted/rolled me. Most of the dudes were cool as hell and would, when asked, tell me how I they got to said position, how to identify, and try to defend against it. All the addtl' knowledge and wisdom that was shared, was phenomenal. Anytime I got "whooped", I needed to learn how/why.

@anthonycaporaso4353

2 жыл бұрын

Vale tudo means anything goes

@thesergiorevengeshow

2 жыл бұрын

@@anthonycaporaso4353 For sure. It was more of a name for their gym, to be honest. They def had rules

i am a jiu jitsu black belt, one day a friend who was doing aikido showed me a cross arm grip wristlock, i use it all the time , its more a grip breaker than a submission, but it works, sometimes if the dudes wont let go of the grip they tap

Joe and this guy are so on the boarder line of getting along haha

The problem with Aikido isn't even the techniques; you'll learn a lot of techniques in Aikido that are similar or identical to BJJ techniques. The difference is the circumstances under which you practice them. Next to no Aikido schools force their students to use the techniques against an uncooperative, resisting opponent who is skilled and doing their damnedest to use them on you with any regularity.

@lucianom3585

3 жыл бұрын

This is totally correct. I did one belt of Aikido, and I found that some of the techniques were great, but that you were not really applying them in challenging environment. Aikido is certainly much better than nothing to defend yourself if you know about its objectives and limitations, but it is more a 'martial art' in the philosophical way, that a combat-oriented discipline. It is still a good exercise for people that cannot handle more intense training regimes, and the ability to fall correctly can be life saving.

@patrickjs166

3 жыл бұрын

so true

@panterano69

9 ай бұрын

Exactly

I could see a lot of wing chun by ferguson in that fight not just the elbow. Paul Vunak taught the wing chun, but later in life ditched a bit of that because he knew that he was dealing with the masses (not capable/disciplined to train it) so he just went to dirty fighting more eye gouging, biting, hitting/grabbing the balls.

I agree, when it comes to handgun retention, entanglement training, break free training/CQB ....

Joe "I don't like blanket statements" Rogan

"Steven Seagal might be onto something" **watches Steven seagal dance**

Great 👍🏼 discussion of JJ...

Brazilian jiujitsu is such a amazing martial art getting humbled by someone smaller than you then over time being able to submit someone bigger than you is the most humbling experience that will give you real confidence

@user-bn9sp3wp7s

4 ай бұрын

If the big guy knows martial arts even a lower skilled then the small guy then the small guy is f'ed

My man gave us a “OOF”

We know how computers work. We have no idea how conciousness works .

@worldwartrump4829

5 жыл бұрын

Acinoralas Agreed.

@MCJOHNSON95

5 жыл бұрын

We'll learn in time hopefully before AI destroys us lol.

@dantedlane2

5 жыл бұрын

GO TO THE ORIGNAL ANSWER

@lean4real_11

5 жыл бұрын

Lawman think wider. consciousness is multidimensional.

@markworks6663

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly right. Many people don’t stop to realize that science does not know what consciousness is. Thank God they keep trying AI with Binary. Because if they were using the holographic model to create AI, they may stumble into it.

Love Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu..just started last week!

Great interview

Any martial art that cannot effectively incorporate modern day pocket sand techniques really shouldn't even be in the running.

@bigjimmcbob9358

5 жыл бұрын

This made me laugh harder than anything on KZread in a while.

@heater3572

5 жыл бұрын

Chong Liz Chong li!!!!!!! Hahaha good comment dude

@weareallbeingwatched4602

4 жыл бұрын

ninja has been doing pocket sand since donkeys

@kojik4271

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like I’ve hear dale gribble use that technique haha

my first time going to a bjj class i was 16 and i swore i had everything down but i didn’t even know the purpose of the gi , and got cross choked from the mount by a smaller 19 year old blue belt , a year later i came back and my first roll i triangle choked a man who was at least in his mid 30’s and stangled a kid who had been training a little over a year with bow and arrow choke, never had had more confidence in my life jiu jitsu is the best thing ever

Wow, that's the first time anyone ever mentioned a martial arts school that i'd ever heard of. My teachers at the little south Philly karate school I worked at had a few guys from team maxercise teach us. They were trying to do some sort partnership because we were doing great with kids classes in bjj. I was in an accident and ended up quitting, now my old school is gone, though I had heard they moved closer to maxercise. I wonder how that went.

Re: Touch of death. There is something called the xyphoid process in the human body. It is a small extension of the sternum (chest bone) shaped something like a tiny dagger. Its purpose is to protect the organs directly underneath. It is kind of weird because it starts out as cartilage but solidifies into bone as we age becoming brittle in the process. A blow delivered at the right angle with the appropriate force can cause the xyphoid process to break loose in some individuals. On occasion one or more fragments can be driven into the underlying organ(s). At the time of the incident it will be experienced as pain. However, if the organ is lacerated it will bleed. Without treatment, the subject *may* bleed out. Since the damage is usually small, it may take as much as a couple of days for death to follow. Hence the touch of death. If the xyphoid is still cartilage because of the subject's realtive youth (maybe twenty years old), if the damage causes only severe bruising but not laceration, then no matter how skilled the attacker or powerfully executed perfect strike, it wil not cause death. However, the pain experienced from the bruising damage caused swelling and inflammation may well increase exponentionally over a period of time for a while, causing the victim to believe he narrowly escaped the touch of death. A smaller hand will focus the force more directly onto the xyphoid maximizing the probability of success. This leads to the perception that certain individuals delivered the touch of death even though they were of slight build going against a larger attacker. Thus the attribution of some magical power that the holder can summon up in some undefined circumstances. Why can't the atacker deliver it at will? Well, that is just how it is with magic, you just never know for sure how and when it will work.

When is he going to hurry up and release Gordon Freeman from stasis?

@kingbyrd.1512

5 жыл бұрын

Lololol

Joe "We need good politicians, and by that I mean politicians that legalize muh weed" Rogan

@EgadsNo

5 жыл бұрын

The war on drugs costs the country about 193 billion per year. The FBI accounts about half of all drug crime to cannabis- if you want to keep pretending that wasting enough money to pay for all education in the US and ending world hunger combined, three times over every year, is not a big deal- that is your prerogative to act ignorant. If you think that creating black markets which drive up the value so high that shedding blood becomes worth it to some individuals creating a never ending cycle of violence is a smart move- your an idiot, and if you don't think stopping that is important- you're also an idiot.

@carlosc.1568

5 жыл бұрын

EgadsNo hi Joe

@carbonbasedmolecule9197

5 жыл бұрын

Glow in the dark

@Peadeymclovin

5 жыл бұрын

​@@EgadsNo my man I think he is joking

@buckjansen239

5 жыл бұрын

Can't believe ur username was allowed

Both gave great ideas

This Quote is quite interesting regarding ‘touch of death’: “Pausanias relates the story of two boxers, Creugas and Damoxenos, who were competitors for the boxing crown at the Nemean Games, contests that at some point nearly rivaled the Olympic Games for their sacred aura. The two men battled to a draw, and so it was agreed that each man would get one free shot at his opponent, to see if either one could be felled in such a way that victory might be declared. Creugas went first, and landed a blow to Damoxenos’s head. Doubtlessly addled (Pausanias does not describe the blow), Damoxenos requested that Creugas raise his hands from his sides, then landed a blow to his abdomen with an open hand, but with such force that he tore into the man’s midsection and disemboweled him on the spot. The Nemean judges awarded Creugas the crown posthumously, but on a technicality; Damoxenos, they argued, had landed more than a single blow. Note that distinction: the judges objected to the number of blows, not to their violence. Pausanias, like most other Greeks, was much impressed by Panhellenic athletes who gave their lives for a crown. Most ancient Greek athletic sanctuaries were littered with monuments commemorating such untimely endings.” So yah, touch of death is real.

@BFCnational

5 жыл бұрын

KING CRIMSON

I learned bjj at pat hardys school down in Texas. Learned under jason and that school was amazing. I was 135 and learned to roll and I loved it.

@williamleblanc3551

4 жыл бұрын

Sure haven't seen you at tpc recently

@Tykoon25

4 жыл бұрын

What the advantage of bjj over other martial arts

It's disappointing to hear Joe say that. The truest martial art is the one that your practice diligently and faithfully all the time, the one that works for you. I love jiu jitsu, have been practicing it since 2002, but it does not complete me by itself.

@TheseYeahThese

2 жыл бұрын

That wasn't his point tho

i have been doing win chun for few years now i think i am gonna take jiu jitsu up as well

This guest was awesome

You can make any “ineffective” or “fake” martial art work if you include pressure tested martial arts, I do aikido and can make locks work because of my jiu jitsu and boxing training

@stuart4860

3 жыл бұрын

akido does not work in the real world, one of the guys in my club has been doing akido for 26 yearss, but when it comes to striking.... dead meat.........he also holds 4 black belts.... akdio has no skills in the real world

@stuart4860

3 жыл бұрын

@@Digitalcataloghub from what I've seen its very effective, the Israel's tend not to muck around when it comes to combat. From what i know they have taken bits from boxing, judo, karate etc and made it into a form. i guess when people do martial arts it depends on what they want from it- fitness, self defence, community, spiritual, mental etc... not everyone wants to fight, i have friends that do tai chi- they do it to relax.

@tiocroc4814

2 жыл бұрын

no you cant lol

6:25 - "our imagination allows it to be true" - a lot like Aikido then

Fascinating conversation

I think wrestling has shown it is the dominant basis for MMA success as they tend to be able to control dominant positions, which is what wins most fights. Khabib, for example, is arguably the best fighter ever is essentially a superior wrestler that stays on top and just leverages down head strikes. Jiu jitsu is most of value for defense at this point (from bottom position) rather then an offensive technique, as a lot of the classic submission techniques are so well known that they can be avoided. You rarely see the classic BJJ submissions of early UFC events these days because fighters are so well drilled in how they’re set up

I've always agreed with the point that Joe made in regards to applying techniques in actual combat/competition. When you can successfully do that at will, you oeen that particular technique/move. That why people blame certain techniques for not working but it's usually because the student that has not mastered it yet, particularly in knife/weapons defense. This also applies to generating power. A living body is already full of energy, learning to channel it on the direction that you choose comes with a certain level of mastery. Jiu-jitsu is extremely humbling.🤣

Joe"i remove my boots when im sneaking up to my prey" rogan

i did not expect that guy to be on the show when i saw the video title

When i started learning bjj from John Crouch it was like learning bjj with all kinds of subtle tips I never received before. It was because he's kind of narrow shouldered and chubby, without and natural strength, or athletic advantages. He had to break it all down and make it work with the most leverage possible.

The guest's argumentation here regarding a "death touch" move relies on placing the greater burden of proof on Joe, i.e. the more reasonable stance, and pointedly, the falsifiable stance. Per Russell's Teapot, the philosophic burden of proof falls on the person making unfalsifiable claims (the guest: death tough might be real), rather than shifting the burden of disproof to others (Joe: from what we know, it's not). For anyone who felt the guest to be irritating, this is essentially why.

@cpaaretrofit

5 жыл бұрын

You my man are a genius

@BloodMoneyy

4 жыл бұрын

You my man are an idiot

@arenh2049

3 жыл бұрын

He is not saying that there IS a death touch, he is simply saying that we can’t say for sure it hasn’t been figured out and forgotten in the past; or some hidden tribe has figured it out. He never stated that for sure it exists, simply that we cannot say it can’t or doesn’t yet exist. You would he correct if he said I know there IS a death touch and you cant say no because you can’t disprove it.

Regards the "touch of death" I spoke to Wang Hai Jun, 29 gold medal winner national champion of traditional Chen style taijiquan [the oldest form of Tai Chi] and he categorically said it is not possible to knock someone over or inflict damage to organs etc. without contact. In 1996-1998 he was the all round national champion of China of Tai Chi in every category. When touring China with top Shaolin masters doing demos he met the best traditional martial artists of every generation, old school and modern and he said there is no Chinese martial art that does this. You also cannot do this with qigong. There is some kind of hypnosis that a teacher can influence students to believe they are being pushed over but basically they trip themselves up. This will not work on someone on the street and certainly not with a trained fighter. What is real however is the ability to generate huge amounts of power from any part of the body from very short distances of one inch or less however this is seen cleanly in just a few hundred practitioners. 200 million plus people do Tai Chi, and add up qigong and other internal arts like Xing-yi and bagua and the amount of people out there fooling people is huge. I once offered Conor Mcgregors coach host a seminar for Wang Hai Jun and John Kavanagh was up for it but then his jiu jitsu coach wouldn't allow it as he has a policy of no traditional martial artists teaching at SBG. This was when McGregor fought Dustin Poirier for the first time. It was a sad moment for me as I love and respect MMA and traditional Taijiquan and if John's coach was more like Lex this could have been an amazing learning moment comparing training methods, techniques and actual fighting skills from a real internal martial arts highly decorated champion and the coach of more national champions than anyone else at the time the level and judging competitively was at its highest in China. Maybe next time I'm in Curitiba teaching I will get to meet Anderson Silva and have a chat about this. Anyway here are some names of the old school masters now in their 70's with skill Chen Jun, Chen Xiao Xing, Chen XiaoWang, Wang Xian, Chen Zhenglei, and the younger Wang Hai Jun who just turned 50.

Perhaps jujitsu is the best one on one combat technique against armored opponents... historically speaking my understanding is it was developed for unarmed villager types to have a method to disable armed and armored opponents... but in unarmored combat a quick strike is always going to be the primary one-on-one fight starter and ender.

@TopazDr

Жыл бұрын

I’m a 5’5 dude. There’s no reason for me to start trading punches with a guy bigger. But if I can surprise him, rush him to his waist and send both of us down on the floor, I have a solid chance with bjj experience. That’s the difference.

@davida.rosales6025

11 ай бұрын

Jujitsu was not developed by unarmed villagers.

Jiu-jitsu is so darn addictive. I had a bit of a different first experience. But Hamblin all the same.

put Keenan Cornelius on. You guys would have an amazing conversation on jiujitsu.

@schmidtforge1946

4 жыл бұрын

Fuuuuuck yes!!!!!

Yo joe... As far as jiu jitsu goes... By far it is the one who surpassess all the other ones i tried by miles when compared to being the truest. Many other fighting Arts resemble the nature of our abilities used to navigate in life. At times we call it self defense and mainly because how we have evolved as people and states but it is used as offense or being the aggressor. Jiu jitsu does capture, at least 50% of the human body and its actions related to the individual navigating through life either on offense or defense. The crazy part is that with jiu jitsu, involves all your muscle groups even in the smallest moves or techniques and because it does so to the buddy so it is doing with the brain working and creating a mind that is close to reality of where do u stand in the foodchain. Thats what makes jiu jitsu the truest. It gives you back the flexibility and movement that we once had in our mothers belly. And since we are providing the nutrition for ourselves and not by our mothers as we would inside their bellies, we are now excersizing the brain and strengthing the mind. End result, we feel safe and some contentment with our efforts towards life or living

@Anonymous95202

Жыл бұрын

Wtf

It's funny now to see Lex and Joe in the early stages of their friendship while they're still getting to know one another

this made me love anderson Silva even more

10:00 I hope everyone gets to experience what Joe is talking about here. The utter helplessness of grappling with someone who actually knows how to do Jiu-jitsu. As a white belt, even a particularly good blue belt can give you that.

@JDinho

3 жыл бұрын

Jiu jitsu or mma buddy? Still debating on what to join I really want to take one of these badass sports seriously!

@alphanerd7221

2 жыл бұрын

Not really.

@KelNg130

Жыл бұрын

BJJ white belt here who just took his 4th class. I literally sparred with a blue belt today and you exactly described what I experienced. It's been a humbling experience so far.

@teddricklamarr9135

Жыл бұрын

FACTS

If you got into a fight in the real world, you already lost. Your goal should be to not put yourself in danger.

I just started at Gracie Barra a week ago. It is humbling but everyone has been so welcome so I don't look at it as being humbled rather I'm being taught. It's a lot to take in but it's a marathon, not a sprint for me.

Is the whole podcast with this guy this woo woo

Had my first Jujutsu class this week. Very humbling. I have a good build and weight (6ft tall and 180 lbs) and got stood no chance. My prior experience is all MMA, mostly striking.

You guys really underestimate boxing in matter of smaller guys defeating big guys on a street fight , personally i would never try to wrestle a much bigger guy on the ground cuz first he can escape my moves with his strength and can also smash my head with his fists , with boxing you have a much better chance of knocking him out

Love Joe Rogan..he's such a good interviewer,great listener and I can appreciate his love for Jiu-Jitsu..just did my first week..I'm 6'6" 240lbs and was choked out and twisted up all week by kid's and little people alike!

totally agree

How long can Joe go on about MMA, to a person that is trying to talk about AI?

@armorers_wrench

5 жыл бұрын

Was thinking the same thing, dude seems to have an interesting perspective on AI.

@therookie8895

5 жыл бұрын

1:29 he is talking about martial arts though?

@Andrew-tt9zv

5 жыл бұрын

Probably as long as him and his MMA show guests talk about literally anything other than MMA

@dannynghiem7804

5 жыл бұрын

Joe just wants what we all want Russian Bot. For scientist like Lex Fridman to make AI a reality. And enjoy high level AI gladiatorial combat.

@gezzapk

4 жыл бұрын

To be fair he is a blackbelt. So its not like he doesn't want to talk about it.

More than half of Jui-jitsu moves you can’t pull them off if you are getting punched in the face or fighting multiple opponents. BBJ is Good but it’s just one element in the universe of fighting.

@milky3hunna

5 жыл бұрын

Dan Mor I don’t think you know much about it considering you said bbj

@TommygunTorres

4 жыл бұрын

I think BBJ is “bare back blowjob” in Thailand.....?

@Teo_live

4 жыл бұрын

@@milky3hunna Don't be spelling/grammar police just to deflect his valid point.

@nouvelhomme8990

3 жыл бұрын

@@milky3hunna So what defenses/attacks does BJJ have for knives or sticks/batons/makeshift clubs? Or do both parties need to sign a contract about what the rules are before the fight begins? I think we know the answer.

@alphanerd7221

2 жыл бұрын

@@nouvelhomme8990 Any martial art that says it has a defense for those things other than running is selling you a bill of goods.

I’m 3/4 of the way into this and I have yet to hear them talk about Jiu Jitsu 😭

The were (and are) many fighters with HUGE hands and below average punch and there are many power punchers with small hands and forearms. Marciano, Louis, Demsey, both Klitschko's have small fists. Now small wrists and small hands place you at a disadvantage in grappling arts, like Ju Jitsu. Many smaller framed people can generate strong punching power in boxing.

I'm a mauythai fighter and whenever I started bjj I go tapped a lot

@Radio-sg3dh

4 жыл бұрын

it be like dat

The man is dressed like my doorman. But I like this conversation.

@Bigfitz2

5 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@itscork

5 жыл бұрын

Your doorman is an interesting fellow also, but doesn’t quote as many people.

I would love to see some videos of Lex rolling.

ILOVE JIU JITSU

I love these limiting beliefs, it'll help keep them from people who lack the moral development to deserve that type of power.

@TheFaro2011

3 жыл бұрын

Great comment. I agree

“The mat doesn’t lie.” 13:33. Awesome.

@jeffhathorn7148

2 жыл бұрын

Neither does the street.

There are many techniques in Jiu Jitsu found in Western and Chineae Martial arts as well.

Its also real in fencing.