This is the worst conversation of all time

@d.1.dx3thapain47

9 ай бұрын

I have seen way worse 😂

You can't have an objective conversation when the entire room is Jay Z fanatics, it's just not gonna happen. People outside of America know Em has had a way bigger impact whether you like him or not.

@MrPmwas

9 ай бұрын

Lies.. Hov bigger than Em

@akira17_samurai

5 ай бұрын

​@@MrPmwas he really wasn't

@talkbigdosmall3192

3 ай бұрын

they keep mix with business. just talk about impact in rap, not business.. em doesn't want do business because he love with rap till this day. jayz? now he gone...

@telmennaadam6758

3 ай бұрын

@@MrPmwas hahaha go outside of America. Jay Z is known because of Beyonce. You people form America think you are the only country in the world. That thought is long gone.

Without Em we wouldn't have Joe

@dande9238

10 ай бұрын

That’s not true, joe literally had “beef” with jay z. He had a career before em

@Chxrmxndxr

10 ай бұрын

Listen to Joe Budden - Slaughtermouse and get back to me lol

@dande9238

10 ай бұрын

ive heard that song. he was just glazing@@Chxrmxndxr

@dande9238

10 ай бұрын

shit was almost a diss@@Chxrmxndxr

@JuniorRivera-ry4sf

2 ай бұрын

That's dumb

Jay-z isnt international his wife is so yall are being ignorant. Eminem is known everywhere everywhere. He brought more audience to the $$$ Cash cow

@d.1.dx3thapain47

9 ай бұрын

Facts

@JohnKing-jz9zb

9 ай бұрын

If u think someone who got 24 Grammy Awards (most all time) and 14 number 1 albums (most all time) ain’t global Bozo then it just proves u another weirdo that’s on jayz nuts

I don't think they account for the fact that Em benefited everybody as a whole more. If Em didn't exist, millions of white kids might not have gotten into hip hop because of how marketable he was. And those kids went on to buy and like other black artists music. If he hadn't been around, that may not have happened.

@tylercanton3836

9 ай бұрын

So explain NWA, Wu-Tang impact that has nothing to do with Eminem. TRL wasn’t playing black artists that’s why Rap City, and 106 & Park were so important. Eminem had Dre, and sign 50.

@soundshape6496

9 ай бұрын

wrong… Hip Hop was worldwide by 1990! White people were buying records in Europe. Asian people were buying records in Japan. Eminem has white fans that don’t even care about hip hop. I’m not saying that’s his entire fan base is made up of this type of fan, but he’s definitely got the “I don’t listen to rap but I listen to Eminem” white fan base. Y’all know the type… the white guy that works for Budlight driving a truck that listens to COUNTRY and some rock & roll. The I don’t really like rap but I like Eminem fans aren’t hip hop fans. They’ve got no say in the culture, about the culture, they’re not part of the culture.

@JohnSmith-pg9ns

8 ай бұрын

Eminem 🐐 period

@tylercanton3836

8 ай бұрын

@@JohnSmith-pg9ns nope

@JohnSmith-pg9ns

8 ай бұрын

@@tylercanton3836 👑

If Jay-Z didn’t exist we have Nas, If Em was erased idk if Hip-Hop is #1 today on a global scale

@orlandoogando2476

8 ай бұрын

Damn that’s a stupid ass statement

@blackcobra1981

5 ай бұрын

Hip Hop was number 1 before Eminem

@talkbigdosmall3192

3 ай бұрын

@@blackcobra1981 BS, if not about em i dont listen to hiphop.. because em i start looking jay, because em i start look up royce, kendrik, j,cole, 50, snoop.. im not from US.. Go ask people other country from US who they knew em or jay.. i bet they knew em better than jay... even go to africa which you said "black people" who they rocking with..

@blackcobra1981

3 ай бұрын

@talkbigdosmall3192 Because you are white and young... Hip Hop was the number 1 genre in the world in the 90's.... Learn your history and stop going by feelings

@blackcobra1981

3 ай бұрын

@talkbigdosmall3192 Nobody said anything about Jay-Z... He got you in your feelings over Eminem... You sound like you, fangirl

No one can have this conversation without exposing their own biases. But I do think they're totally skipping over just how many younger artists site Eminem as an inspiration.

If BIG didn’t pass away Jay wouldn’t have even had that lane. And I love Jay

@StinceVaples

10 ай бұрын

“HOV was gon always be HOV…”

@dpowell468

9 ай бұрын

Prove it..yall say some real dumb shit. Prove it

@only1needed

9 ай бұрын

Hov was gonna get to where he’s at regardless of who’s alive or dead.

@PrinceSaheed

9 ай бұрын

I think he would be bigger because biggie was his homie and they were about to start a group together

@blackcobra1981

5 ай бұрын

Without Dr Dre, Eminem would still be living in 8 mile

Em an Snoop are bigger than Jay Z, If we talking global, more ppl know Em and Snoop than Jay. Thats NY bias to the max

Em blow hip Hop world wide... Africa, Europe, Asia Me btw i've heard of jay z cuz of Em & i really learn English cuz of Eminem 💯✌

@dpowell468

9 ай бұрын

Don't matter. Eminem isn't more impactful in hip hop than jay z its not close. Hip hop is a BLACK AMERICAN thing your opinion don't matter when you talk about OUR music. What are u Hispanic? Let's just say u are. Us blacks in America have no say with reggaeton same way yall have no say in our music. Jay z is definitely a bigger hip hop icon than Eminem

@m.i.c9992

9 ай бұрын

@@dpowell468 stop crying...its our music blablabla :D you a clown man go make some animal balloons

@PICKLEEEJUICE

6 ай бұрын

@@dpowell468 What makes hip-hop solely black though? is it the struggle? the poverty? the oppression? because those are not color restricted... Is it who invented hip-hop? because white people invented basketball... doesn't mean basketball isn't done better by black people...

@tuntejaable

Ай бұрын

Africa? Absolutely not

Parks is right on this one.

To the majority of people Jay Z is Beyoncé’s husband

Like 50 said,"you remove em you don't have the cars and the chains and the deals", so idk what the hell they talking about.

@thadonjuan2339

2 ай бұрын

How is that true when hip-hop had that before Eminem was even out.

Im from Sri lanka. And i have to say copared to Jayz, em had more impact in hip hop in the south asia sector than any other rapper. Pac and big had a bigger impact here with the style of music than Hov.. Ish said that most of the black audiance are influenced by jay and i dont refute that but em had a way bigger impact all over the world... alot of artist mostly black can definetly relate to jayz but on a global stage hes not touching em. The contents in his raps (been bullied, growing up poor, abusive house holds, ) was more relatable world wide than selling drugs, flexing cars and hustling

all of these are good points but Em made hip hop world wide and brought a bigger audience to hip hop and thats how artists made more money.

@joaopaulo-tz5rv

10 ай бұрын

ahahahahaahahahhahaha brought white people

@shahaneperera349

10 ай бұрын

Sorry but not just white people but asia as well... to this day u can see his impact on those countries

@Don-v-e-r-g-a-s

10 ай бұрын

And latin people. Eminem can go to any other country and do stadiums, jay z in the other hand will struggle to fill a theater

@joaopaulo-tz5rv

10 ай бұрын

@@Don-v-e-r-g-a-s hahahaha hahaha

@joaopaulo-tz5rv

10 ай бұрын

@@Don-v-e-r-g-a-s you don’t even believe that lie

Sometimes people need to go outside their country to see that some things aren’t big as they think. All the artist that we think are big in the US aren’t even known in other countries, clear example is Drake. Jay z maybe be big in hip hop but not enough where his impact is worldwide, in the other hand you have Eminem who inspired all the battle scene in Latin America, even Argentina artists talk about how 8mile inspired them to get into the rap

It's dope that Eminem is in the convo. Rap alone.... Eminem is the beast as far as flow is concern.

cannot take non of them seriously

Eminem the goat get over it 😂

@janpierre827

3 күн бұрын

I think what alot of Em fans need to realize, is though he is a beyond gifted artist and wordsmith, hip hop fans are judging him under hip hop criteria. I could be wrong but alot of Em fans are not hip hop fans and theres nothing wrong with. I went to an eminem show once in high school and as a hip hop fan, i dont think i had anything in common with the other people that show

If you take eminem out of hip hop, nobody would care about hip hop outside of the US

@michaelatencio2917

9 ай бұрын

Take Eminem out & the rap game wouldn't be the #1 genre & rappers wouldn't be making the money they make. It don't take a rocket scientist to see why. Eminem is a better overall rapper then Jay Z. when Jay Z came out he wasn't all that, because we had biggie who was so much better then Jay z, we had tu pac & then DMX. Big L was better then Jay Z. They are not talking music. They are talking finances. Totally different topic. Eminem can rap with anybody, Jay Z took Biggie style in alot of ways. Jay is a billionaire, but doesn't mean his impact on hip hop music is bigger. I like Jay z, but people don't give Eminem credit because of his skin color. So who's really being racist.

@michaelatencio2917

9 ай бұрын

It means Jay z capitalized on hip hop

@michaelatencio2917

9 ай бұрын

No matter what people say Eminem, is in the top 10 sales in all genres. He's sold the most by far 170 million next is Drake. Numbers don't lie. You have to remember the United States is 70% white & who buys all the albums. It's the middle class. So without Eminem the white audience ain't being that supportive without Eminem, because he was nice. I don't B.S. just straight facts & logic mixed with common sense

@josephtewksbury6546

9 ай бұрын

@@michaelatencio2917 Only white people can be racist... I mean I don't believe it but a ton of ignorant people do!!!

@godsownson2469

9 ай бұрын

You must be crazy because over here in Africa,we don't listen to Eminem..We listen to Pac

em inspired more rappers worldwide period

@staymadloser7754

10 ай бұрын

Wrong Karen

@SuperProfecy

10 ай бұрын

@@staymadloser7754 lmao Jay is amazing but he didnt inspire a wave of rappers like em did, people who say otherwise never been abroad, Pac the best rapper ever tho

Honestly they both great but to put Em next Jay Z when Em was discovered while battle rapping is crazy

Eminem is definitely better

@kc-zf1jp

10 ай бұрын

When

Jay z is not that big outside of the USA, ive never heard his music on the radio or seen his musicvideo on television. And I live in the uk

@dustcore

10 ай бұрын

What TV programmes are you referring to? 99% of my favourite Hiphop artist aren't on uk TV. Who cares if their not on Good Morning Tv 😅

@StinceVaples

10 ай бұрын

Irrelevant point.

@strongbone9471

10 ай бұрын

So what?

@openyourmind8294

10 ай бұрын

I come from Africa and than Germany, I was listening to Jay z from reasonable doubt, Jay z won awards in Germany in 1998 hard knock life album. Can I get a f* was in every club. And guess was Eminem was not known, Maybe you are Eminem generation, but real rap fans know Jay Z well.

@jerry85g7

10 ай бұрын

Jay's biggest hit is NY with Alicia Keys

Finally I agree with parks 👏🏾😂

EMINEM IS WORLDWIDE , outside usa many people dont know jayz and im from Africa if u ask them about jay nobody know who is 🤷🏻‍♂️

@dpowell468

9 ай бұрын

Hip hop is American..Black American. Focus on yall artist and music we focus on ours. Stay over there. Jay z is undoubtedly a bigger icon in hip hop than Eminem its not close. This isn't about skill or who make whatever music u like .this is about status. Jay z is a bigger icon than Eminem in hip hop and its not close. Music. Fashion. Trends. Artist he brought to the game. The respect he gets from everyone from basketball player,to Warren buffet to rappers Jay z is way more respected than Eminem u can't be this delusional

@D89an

9 ай бұрын

😂😂

@MrPmwas

9 ай бұрын

Lies.. Hov bigger than Em in Africa

@D89an

9 ай бұрын

Hov isnt big over anywhere 😂 the numbers suggest that

@MrPmwas

9 ай бұрын

@@dpowell468 FACTS

Without Em there would be no Budden or Budden Podcast. Eminem helped Joe go from Pump it Up to Slaughterhouse to a voice in Hiphop. Facts 💯

Bunch of grown men talking about being inspired in life by a rapper 😂

New York biases 😂 they all living on delusion

@thadonjuan2339

2 ай бұрын

Who's from NY in this video.

Nothing worse than hearing Ish talk about hip hop lmao

riding at it's finest

Ish take is stupid, bcuz many hoods outside of NY does not listen to Jay and till this day his impact is still not it having a net worth of a billion is different from having a billion liquid.. Em brought the ppl that'll buy tickets, albums behind, hence why Drake is elevated half black/white, and hes a Jew.

@tylersauls3557

11 күн бұрын

Yeah bro I know I'm late to this but I'm not going to lie I love JAY z but I'm from GA and nobody holds Jay Z to that light

You can't quantify fans? Well you can by album sales ffs.

Again no shot at Eminem 😂

in africa eminem bigger then jayz not even a comparison we dont really bump jay z like that eminen,50cent,2pac are the most listerned too hiphop artist and lil wayne.

@MrPmwas

9 ай бұрын

Stop lying..

@DumbBaby

Ай бұрын

@@MrPmwas I remember a few years back Eminem was the biggest artist in Africa (the whole continent) that year. Whats ironic is Eminem, along with DMX, appeals to a lot of poor people; they never really rapped about being rich etc. Em rapped about being poor, feeling hopeless and doing cheap prescription drugs. Makes sense that he was more relatable to the entire global south.

Both the best ever to do it.

At the end of the day, it all comes down to what kind of impact are we talking about US or worldwide. If is US I’ll say jay z but worldwide Eminem, and by the way you can’t use skin color as an excuse for Eminem’s impact outside of the US because there’s a lot of countries with different races

@dpowell468

9 ай бұрын

Hip hop is American who cares about overseas...this is BLACK AMERICAN MUSIC..that aired on BET. That started in the Bronx hip hop is black not white we don't care. Jay z is who most rappers want to be. Jay z has set more trends than Eminem. Jay z is more respected than Eminem in hip hop its not close bro. Stop it

@AmeerBANKAI

2 ай бұрын

Hip hop is world wide .. stop being so lame racist and ultimate fanboy mode , eminem in asia and africa and most non american areas is breaking bad level of legacy I personally listened to 5 jay z tracks and i think lyrically great but the music , flow , delivery are kinda decent if not boring

Em brought rap to a global level jay z didn’t do that he literally transcended rap globally

Jay and Em are both american success story. However when it comes to the out reach and cross over? Em has it by a long shot due to his rapping abilities and his "music". Yes, Jay-Z has this and owns that etc. But we dont even know what Em owns because he has never really used his money, connections or business deals as a marketing tool to gain popularity. In contrast to Jay? vis-a-vis to the perception of black excellence in the urban community. Jay was the perfect example. Em on the other hand, has always been quiet.

@strongbone9471

10 ай бұрын

Jay z has roc nation. Roc nation alone makes his outreach more by a long shot. If you can show what eminem owns that has the reach roc nation has then he'll be the answer.

@messifcb101

10 ай бұрын

@@strongbone9471 you are proving my point lol.

@meladgoat

10 ай бұрын

em has sold his songs for ipod commercials. has made music videos for popular movies, and has put himself in movies and tv shows. he also has tried out for a few movies but didn't get the part. That is by definition using his money, and connections, to gain popularity and to make money. He started his own label just like hov as well. he's a businessman too. hov is just a better one. i like both but i rather listen to jay or nas. ems first 3 albums are great after that nah. i like the way he puts words together but his content is what loses people. for every stan and cleaning out my closet, he has we made you, just lose it, ass like that, i can listen to weird stuff like that. jay, and nas to me have been more consistent the last 20 years. relapse, revival have been some of the worst albums i ever heard. jay don't have trash albums.

@messifcb101

10 ай бұрын

@@meladgoat So far, for some reasons. I feel like y'all dont understand the point i am trying to make. Lol For music. By themselves, Em has had more impact. However as for business? We can say that Jay might have an edge. Due to the médiatisation of all of his business ventures. However, i personally dont know the business ventures that Em has been on that has been publicized as much a Jay. And this is both heard in their music. Jay at times gives us a verse about how he may have bought this or that etc. I have NEVER heard Em talking about his riches. Lol But as far as we know, if we want to rely on mere perception. Yes Jay may seem like a better✌ businessman✌ than Em Because the music industry focuses its impact on business rather than the art itself. A perfect example. Drake vs Kendrick or Cole. Drake is louder with his money than Cole or Kendrick. We see his house, his plane, and some of his business investments. Fam, we have no idea where Kendrick or Cole lives lol. We have no idea where they have invested and what they own. As far as we know. They could own a % of a professional team, tech company etc. We dont know because they are private. And this is the point i am trying to make. The perception of business may seem more impactful than the art itself...only if the metric of the impact were measuring is based off precieved ✌numbers and values✌

@dpowell468

9 ай бұрын

​@@messifcb101we don't care bro. Jay z is a bigger icon in hip hop. You're point is just dumb. Jay z has birth bigger artist. He's had a better career overall than Eminem. He's done more. He has more awards he's more revered and respected. From athletes. To moguls to rappers. Stop the comparison. That worldwide stuff nobody cares hip hop is a. From the Bronx nobody cares about Europe and Asian etc they are irrelevant to this they just like Eminem not rap lol big difference. Jay z > Eminem when it comes to who has done more for hip hop. Jay z is easily who most rappers want to be.

I'm from India and Eminem was the only popular hip-hop artist. Through him, I got to know the other hip-hop artists. EM is really big outside of the US. Some people in the US are in denial.

@rajatrai7325

12 күн бұрын

Facts

Don't forget they did the detroit New York tour to help Jay-z career not Eminems. Also that Jay-z took an L to Eminem's prerecorded Renegade Version With Royce On It.

@garygnu8775

9 ай бұрын

Renegade was one song. Jay-Z has a greater body of work with much more range.

@josephtewksbury6546

9 ай бұрын

@@garygnu8775 Get off Jay-z sack

@VinceBond-ky2zt

4 ай бұрын

Eminem is Allen iverson Jayz is jordan Just because ai crossed mj in a game dont mean shit cos he lost that game by 20

Sorry to say. JayZ big and impactful in the America. No doubt about it. I don't debate it. He great rapper, influence so many rapper in culture, OG, billionaire, business mogul and etc. But Eminem, it is impactful globally worldwide. American should go outside of your scale, see for urself. Pac and Biggie famous in asia after their death. then, here come the white boy, Eminem. I'm as asian, literally live in asia continent, know Eminem, DrDre and 50cent first in 90s and 00s. Their music firstly arrive here and from that we learn about JayZ and another OG. Aftermath and Shady Records presence first in asian and it open the door for another hiphop artist globally and bring more money to culture. HipHop culture in asia literally start from that. I just speak from my point of view as asian people.

@garygnu8775

9 ай бұрын

Of course Asians are going to praise the white guy that's doing the black stuff.

@justicelaw4498

9 ай бұрын

That's a fact. Im from cape town and no one listens to Jay z. Black or white.

Eminem has never transcended music is such a wild thing to say. Unbelievable

I don’t listen to Em anymore but the disrespect on his name is CRAZY

Counting business doesn’t count to your rap just becuz ur a billionaire

Every rapper should respect Jay-Z he did it like no one periodt, made a billionaire off rap 💯 that is real achievement diamond 👌 💎🤴❤❤❤❤❤❤

Roc Nation , Shawn Carter Foundation, Roc Nation Sports, REFORM ALLIANCE etc… HOV’s impact transcends hip hop. It’s actual concrete societal impact and changes. I love Em, but Jay is a league above. It’s only close when we talk music.

@josephtewksbury6546

10 ай бұрын

Hov is a purse carrying bitch now if you haven't looked. He isn't even really doing hip hop anymore. He is a USA success story from investing money into things which should not count as hip hop credentials. I have owned most of Jays albums and he was a vibe back in the day but honestly a lot of his shit isn't aging well.

@kungfufemafam9216

10 ай бұрын

Does not transcend hip hop. Jay z works for the white man and has been basic for over a decade

@StinceVaples

10 ай бұрын

@@kungfufemafam9216 Who do you work for? How many jobs and opportunities have you provided?

@tritone11

9 ай бұрын

It is not close when we talk music. Make a trip outside of the USA and have your eyes opened. Some kid in the slums of Sudan has somehow seen 8 mile, but couldn’t tell you who Shawn Carter even is.

@alphaghost9672

9 ай бұрын

@@tritone11 For some Americans their moms basement is their world.

I hate when people bring up Eminem sales and equate it to whiteness… yet can’t show me another white rapper with the same sales & impact

A waste of 9 minutes I can never get back

Kendrick said multiple times that he was inspired by Em…

Didn't joe budden write a song called Slaughter Mouse talking about how he related so much to eminems lyrics

Did they ever have a conversation like this about Jay & Nas cause ...that'd be a good convo i was late to appreciate both Nas & Jay but over time I'm leaning more towards Nas tbh

@zairethinker

10 ай бұрын

usually people that mature lean towards Nas

@Artvibesmatter

10 ай бұрын

@@zairethinker Nas narrative if I can hear correctly is going at Jay 99% percent of the time, correcting all of the misconceptions givin & saying jay stole his flow & style that's what I got from both kings disease & magic series

@brianlarkins4250

9 ай бұрын

@@ArtvibesmatterJayz entire career is base off Nas his first song starts on the back of Nas man done mentioned him on every album.

@Artvibesmatter

9 ай бұрын

@@brianlarkins4250 I wish there was a video that pointed out what & how & explains that side story their history

@blackcobra1981

5 ай бұрын

Nas is not close to Jay-Z when comes to impact

1st non athlete with a sneaker... its history baby!!!

Eminem was a gateway into hip hop for a whole new audience who may have not been into hiphop before that. And those fans then got into Dre, Snoop etc etc. He got all rappers more bread.

He emphasized that Jay showed little black boys what could be. Then said 2 minutes later. You can quantify fans. Huh?

Because of nas jay rap like that now he use to up fast asf but when illmatic came out everyone switch they’re style

I heard Jay Z once I play Biggie album

Rewind back to 2011 and Joe was an Eminem cheerleader 😂

Jay

They’re both legends Jay probably has him beat but em still is a legend and you can’t deny that

50 cent and snoop are more popular outside of USA though

Em is goated I got jay on impact Tho

Talking about impact make a video about Eminem and another video about Jay Z and see which one you get more views you guys are just haters just by saying not a shot at Eminem is a shot at Eminem but the world is bigger than your hoods 😉

Em was in the wash, em was in 8 mile, voice acted in 50 cents games, em was a producer on bodied, opened the door wider for hip to go world wide even more than it was. Hov wasnt known as much as em was up till the 2000s

5:10 If you're gonna say Jay for that, might as well say Biggie because Jay's style is Biggie's style.

It funny because they are hired by Joe who was put on by Em 😅

The first rap i listened to was eminem n later cone to know about jayz n i am not from america .eminem is known all over globe then jayz

If you remove Eminem presence out of Hip Hop, you won't be seating here. Half of your audience is out of U.S

*Em was more important for expanding the Culture but Jay-Z is all around the best rapper to do it. Em is the Bill Russell of rap and Hove is Michael Jordan* 👍

No one gave a fuck about rap outside usa.... Hip hop is worldwide because of Eminem

Ish mentality is like saying a black kid needs to see a black man can do it for him to know it’s possible wtf?!?! We all have 1 head 2 arms 2 legs and 1 torso we are men that mentality is limiting yourself drastic it’s sad to hear this man think like that

They just chatting

Americans forgetting that “the world “ is not one of the 50 states. Eminem had a way(!) greater impact than Jay Z. People all around the world suddenly felt like they were invited, and they don’t even have to try to be black to be part of the culture. 8 Mile catapulted him into a completely different stratosphere. Eminem is one of the top 10 best selling artists (!!) of all time. He is ahead of Beyonce. Stop dreaming.

Hip Hop wouldn't be the same without Eminem lol especially worldwide

@LarryBonson

Ай бұрын

Lies.

@aceinspadesz4882

2 күн бұрын

​. Eminem has bought an international comsumer base to hip hop. India , Dubai, London, Japan. No rapper has done something like this

@LarryBonson

Күн бұрын

@@aceinspadesz4882 Hip was already being consumed world wide before kiddo.

@aceinspadesz4882

Күн бұрын

@@LarryBonson not as big as and as expansive before Em came in bucko

@LarryBonson

Күн бұрын

@@aceinspadesz4882 It was expensive before eminem kiddo go sit down.

I've travelled a lot and Eminem is played far more around the world than Jigga. Em ensured hip hop travelled and bridged many gaps to allow a greater audience. You go to Thailand, Bali, Columbia for example, Eminem has more merchandise in those SE Asian/South American markets than Jigga. Tbh you rarely see the latter. In Europe Em is 100% played more on the radio and in bars etc. Hip hop is bigger worldwide cos of him. Jay may have had a bigger impact in the US but Em conquered the world. Both faves of mine but you can't knock the worldwide hustle of the white boy...

EMINEM WASHED JAY Z

Eminem, influence the worl, jay z only in u country

We got blame ourself lol I bought bootleg blueprint black album wu tang albums for sure. I'm ashamed but I didn't have it.eminem customers consume whatever he puts out legally lol not to say he's not great or deserves it but his music is not for me.

And this is why yt niggaz don't need to debate anything with Em

Jay Z made most of his billion outside of rap! As far as hip hop the music wise Jay Z is not more successful as Em. Think about this Jay Z has been rapping years before Em and has all kinda Grammy awards but no diamond 💎 record. Em has gone diamond multiple times heck Nelly went diamond so how is that impact? Plus he never out song guys like 50, DMX, Wayne, Kanye in their prime so what we even talking about?

@ANTTEAMSMOKE

10 ай бұрын

Get over it

@jaydon7956

10 ай бұрын

@@ANTTEAMSMOKE what facts?

@ANTTEAMSMOKE

10 ай бұрын

@@jaydon7956 niggaz said what they said none of that matters to the 98%

@strongbone9471

10 ай бұрын

Em has gone diamond because he appeals to more demographics of people than Jay because eminem is white.

@lovehate8286

10 ай бұрын

But they’re taking more than music. Jay has done things no one has ever done. His own shoes, own clothing line, own record label(major label) Managing tons of platinum acts Finding and making another billionaire in Rihanna, teaching rappers business where a lot of ppl in this generation looks up to jay as everything they want to be, while seeking his counsel. Coming from the projects to becoming one of the biggest moguls in music, film, and sports. He’s done it all.

Musical impact eminem wins by far thats what it m.mathers

The world is bigger than ur hood.

What is the debate ??? Eminem took Hip Hop/Rap to places no one ever has been able to take it. Eminem raised hip hop/rap to the level of pop music colossal level. He made rap the new version of pop. Eminem brought 50 Cent to the world His musical products are way way over any other Hip Hop or rap artists

Why can't Americans look beyond their country? Eminem globalised Hip Hop. From Mexico to India to Saudi to Indonesia, almost 75% of Hip Hop heads got introduced to the culture through Hip Hop. 9 out of 10 of us have him in our top 3. Look beyond the white-black discourse.

We don't know jayZ

Why are they gassing Jay so much. Parks prolly had the best takes

Eminem is the reason white people know who Nelly is. That’s the difference. No Eminem and 80% of the US population isn’t getting hot in herrrrrr.

@DumbBaby

Ай бұрын

Stop with that.

Also, without the greatness of Eminem, you wouldn't even have the so-so white artist you have today. It had to be someone great to take their whole race seriously in the genre. A reverse Jackie Robinson in a way.

Eminem and Akon are more familiar outside of America jay z is Not famous outside of America 😂 Most people knew jay z when he was collaborating with linkin park

Sorry, but they are speaking from a New York mindset. Jay wasn’t a big hit in the Midwest…. Until he got with R.Kelly! We was rocking to our artist, Memphis and Texas as well as westcoast

So you loose 50 cent, you loose G unit, slaughter house, d12, 1000s of mc's, from across the world, in countries where hip hop wasn't a big thing, but became big because people wanted to emulate em, not Jay z. I hate that i have to use this as an example, but you go to European countries, mainly white heritage, unless theyre were hardcore hip hop fans they wouldnt know about Hov until he got bodied on renegade. So who did more for hip hop?

jay has stolen so much lyrics its crazy ...

Master.p did everyone before jay-z

This dint age well only coz Budden been a hater for awhile now😭, that white boy did what he couldn’t do

Issue here in first few minutes is the guy is pretending like there haven't been black artists that noted em's influence on them. His entire argument falls flat after we've seen j cole, dot, tyler etc. note eminem as an influence. There isn't and wasn't this strong dividing line between em and the black audience, but there was a strong dividing line between the white audience and the rest of hip hop, which em was largely responsible for eradicating.

I'm so fed up with Eminem crying and complaining also being envious of the art and better men than him Eminem is disrespectful to his mother and can't respect the craft

To counter Ish’s point about removing Jay/Em, understand this, Eminem made hip hop GLOBAL on a totally different scale than we had ever seen before. Hov did units but he wasn’t a super popping global artist. Em has done more for hip hop globally. Em has an album that impacted American culture. Hov has created more trendy moments and made himself a household name. Rocafella is not the first independent label. They might not even be the most successful. Em is def. closer in this debate than he was given credit for.

@jahlilthorn1

10 ай бұрын

Hip Hop was already Global & Snoop Dogg made Hip Hop Global not Em

@thechosenone1877

10 ай бұрын

I agree 100% …when I served in Afghanistan and Iraq I only seen 2 pictures of rappers and one was Eminem in Afghanistan and the other one was or 2pac in a barber shop in Baghdad (Iraq) ….Jayz doesn’t have the same impact globally 🤷🏽‍♂️

Impact in what way? Em made hip hop worldwide and not just stuck in the hood. And gave hip hop a microphone. That and one of the best to ever do it. Let's be real snoop has a bigger name then Jay. Rappers can sell out stadiums now bc of em. U take away em and u can barely get hip hop on the radio. And u still stuck trying to get people to listen.

@dpowell468

9 ай бұрын

Bro you're talking one specific side of it. Which benefits em cause of his skin color and that's the facts. OVERALL jay z is a bigger icon IN HIP HOP than Eminem.. it's not even up for debate. Jay Z is most rappers idol come on bruh this isn't a conversation

@Raven44

9 ай бұрын

@@dpowell468 look at his monthly streaming numbers nobody even listens to him. Just a name that gets pushed. Dude is overrated. He is also more popular bc of his wife. Is what it is.

@JohnKing-jz9zb

9 ай бұрын

Jayz way bigger then em bozo

@Raven44

9 ай бұрын

@@dpowell468 so the question should be who has the greatest impact in hip hop to black people then and in what way? and not hip hop in general. Hip hop is mainstream. Who has the biggest impact in the hood u can have that conversation. Since it's so important to some to point out who is what color. then the question should be asked in said way.

@Raven44

9 ай бұрын

@@JohnKing-jz9zb in what way

It’s so childish. Full grown men can’t just be honest. We can all see it and it’s the most embarrassing thing to watch. It just ruins their credibility. Cope

Eminem way bigger deal