"Sometimes people just do bad things. There's not always a disorder that goes along with that". THANK YOU for pointing this out!

@SpcGiraffe

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think anyone was really labelling her, her lying speaks for herself. She is a pathological liar and that is clear enough..

@animalmgsavage9346

3 жыл бұрын

“Disorder” is just a term for the medical mafia to use to continuously push deadly drugs into humanity.

@sspbrazil

3 жыл бұрын

Best thing ever said.

@KutWrite

3 жыл бұрын

To me that was a completely unscientific statement.

@sspbrazil

3 жыл бұрын

@@KutWrite so? Sometimes that’s the way life is.

I love the lesson at the end: Sometimes people do terrible things. Associating those terrible things with mental disorders could exacerbate the stigma of mental illness. Thank you for this thoughtful video, Dr. Grande.

@d3l3tes00n

4 жыл бұрын

@@leescuderi8331 Men actually say that line?

@TriXorcist

4 жыл бұрын

While I think that it's possible sometimes for "normal" people to do bad things, it's far more unlikely. It's probably safe to assume that a person who commits a crime like this is indeed disordered.

@LuvBugBlaqkHart

4 жыл бұрын

@@TriXorcist Agreed. Narcissistic abuse is definitely a thing. To say that there is a "stigma" and that it's bad and hurts those with cluster B personality disorders is an injustice to those who have suffered at the hands of these individuals. They obviously need help but most of them don't seek out genuine help and a lot continue to abuse others. This is coming from someone who has been in more than one abusive relationships with actual diagnosed cluster B's and have known MANY people who have been with either diagnosed or obviously disordered individuals. I know the damage it causes. I've lived it and I've seen it up close and personal. Instead of being so worried about these people why not worry about their victims?! I see so many people protecting these abusers and don't care to help those who were abused by these disordered individuals.

@amandarios448

4 жыл бұрын

@@LuvBugBlaqkHart because you can't put everyone in a bag as "cluster B". You never really hear about the people in cluster B, also a lot of abuse comes from borderline or histrionic people who hurt themselves more than they hurt others, we've all met borderline or ASPD people who are less intense on the scale and who haven't hurt anyone but they'd never admit to having these disorders because of the stigma that you have to be bad. I agree abuse is a serious issues and there are many NPD and ASPD people that take the trophy at committing the worst crimes. But what about the majority of people with some traits and how about the people who barely qualify. You can bet that by statistics alone at large many more people have traits, then more people barely qualify and then some 1 or 2% are the ones who fully qualify and a much lesser amount are the ones much worse, with higher scores and more symptoms in the list. So we hear a lot from the very worst in the list... Since schizophrenia is hard to hide, we know better that there's some that hurt others more and are violent and other that live in torment too but don't bother anyone. And we know that only the much, much worse in the spectrum tend to commit crimes. I think the trend is a little different for cluster B and other PDs but I'm pretty sure that the super negative perception is a little bit because most people with only traits or who qualify but are not high in the spectrum do not out themselves out of fear but mostly live without doing much harm. There's a neuroscientist that made brain images of people with ASPD like mainly serial killers and the found out he had the same type of brain image (fMRI), but he's a good worker, father, has not committed any crimes, he maybe just is not very emotional & uses his mind on his research & career ? How many sorta 'cold' people are there who are inventors, scientists, legislators etc. Just because we only hear from the worst of the worst doesn't mean we know what the average or low on the spectrum majority are all abusers, in my clinical experience is that like I said most people have traits, of a few PDs, then there's people who barely qualify, and the people that do qualify & are just as problematic as your typical neurotic person. But when you go to the low functioning, these people don't blend in, they can't hide they have these disorders because of impulsivity & crimes. But you will never really hear from the people who are less afflicted with those diseases or of victims of those people. What you hear on the media and catches your attention is the extremes. Now I'm not saying those PDs aren't bad, they are, but just like all there PDs most who do shit like consistently abuse their partners are the low functioning, worst part of the spectrum and it's that way for most disorders, and even for "normal" people. What you see in jails are normally the people who've have the worst lives, poverty, traumas, bad friends, etc. So just a thought from my experience with people clinically. You can't put everybody in one big box and say they're all abusive. mentally ill does not equal evil.

@BunnyLang

4 жыл бұрын

@@LuvBugBlaqkHart I agree with you .

My feeling is that the fear of Travis being with another woman was far greater than the fear of jail. There was an aura of peace about her during her police interviews, she didn't care about the consequences because her greatest fear had gone.

@lisayappel4029

3 жыл бұрын

Bingo! I think you are exactly right! The fear of him being with another woman probably made her feel so rejected and now he can't be with another woman so that rejection is off the table and jail looks better to her than rejection.

@Rocket_Queen_Australia

3 жыл бұрын

@@lisayappel4029 yep! She had peace.

@pinkgorilla99

3 жыл бұрын

@@lisayappel4029 you are probably right but what a sad way to think. I love the way Dr Grande breaks it down

@lisayappel4029

3 жыл бұрын

It is a sad way to this k. But some psychologically messed ups mpeople think this way. They feel unloved and unloveable and rejection to them is the worst thing.

@lisayappel4029

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry for all the typos.

"Whoever hires a Mental Health clinician, gets the diagnosis they want." A truth that applies to and extrapolates the entire Justice system.

@gryffbirb

2 жыл бұрын

I would disagree because I have had to seek mental health treatment and have been ignored on some of my concerns before. I also know some people who have had it a lot more than I have.

@vanities9484

2 жыл бұрын

Romans 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

@tia2676

2 жыл бұрын

They were talking about the Justice system

You’re brilliant. Thanks for pointing out that the majority of people with BPD aren’t violent or “bad” as there is so much stigma attached to a disorder that is already so hard to live with.

@helenamargarita7034

4 жыл бұрын

straight out jealousy, in my opinion.

@kjtamf

4 жыл бұрын

AM P 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@veronikabohrn9520

4 жыл бұрын

Borderline personalities are usually empaths.

@mamabear-9.18.18

4 жыл бұрын

@@veronikabohrn9520 ... Very true! Typically we're very highly sensitive people who are MORE LIKELY to HURT OURSELVES (privately and desperately to to hide it) OR KILL OURSELVES. We're usually, not all BUT most I would personally say, are the LEAST LIKELY to PURPOSELY HURT OTHERS (extreme shame, guilt and depression occurs after realizing that we've hurt someone), much less actually attempt or succeed in taking someone's life with absolutely no remorse or anyone noticing a change in the person's behavior (like one would assume one would notice if less than 24 hours earlier, someone was murdered by them).... you know what I mean?

@dagnaldblumbf1882

4 жыл бұрын

@@mamabear-9.18.18 Stacy has to be the most appropriate name for someone that has BPD.

During one of her interviews, while applying mascara she said: "I'm glad to see this is waterproof. I don't plan to cry but...you know." That was really sociopathic to me.

@laurenmay2098

3 жыл бұрын

Can't remember that, and I watched all of her interviews, are you sure about that statement?

@laurenmay2098

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, yes completely sociopath.

@oanaamaricai8081

3 жыл бұрын

@@laurenmay2098 Yes, I saw it too, it's exactly what she said.

@ambermay6884

3 жыл бұрын

@@laurenmay2098 yes she said it

@tamvee

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, sociopathic.

There was a interview released about 3 days ago. It was quite long. She didn’t have any kind of trauma during childhood. She is very intelligent and manipulative. She premeditated this. She came off in the interview as a sweet, spiritual innocent woman and how could a person like her ever hurt anyone. She was portraying herself as a “nice” girl. Pure evil and she had no remorse.

@Bobawob

3 жыл бұрын

You may be right that she didn’t go there to actually kill Travis. But why did she take gas cans with her so she didn’t have to stop and steal the gun from her grandparents. Her behavior in the interview room was very odd. Most likely she is a sociopath and was used by Travis. Stalking him and showing up unannounced should have raised a red flag to him, or he just ignored it.

@ellenhemighaus5039

2 жыл бұрын

😥 he liked the sex too much. It was his demise. He should have put her right out of his house.

@coreyanderson7424

Жыл бұрын

I belive she's a narc. Just my opinion.

@mishi144

Жыл бұрын

Aspd maybe? Psychopathy?

@ccm8817

Жыл бұрын

​@@coreyanderson7424 For whom though? Honest question?

Mental disorders are not synonymous with evil. Thank you for bringing that to light. As always, a very interesting video. ♥️

@pamhunter-to4xs

7 ай бұрын

Thanks. I have bpd and never hurt anyone in my life...

I think she showed up with the plan: I go to Mexico with him, he lives. He takes someone else, things go according to plan.

@tammydayrhoads7017

3 жыл бұрын

Yep!!

@icegangsta4004

3 жыл бұрын

True

@DrPhil-kx3ci

3 жыл бұрын

I bet she brought up Mexico multiple times right before her brain fog kicked in.

@handsomepetevideos

3 жыл бұрын

this seems reasonable. I struggle with her stabbing first - seems like if she wanted him dead she would have shot first. I know she said (later) that she shot first, but the forensics don’t support that. The picture of him sitting in the shower is also weird - who does that? I can see it making sense that she kept asking about the trip and he said the same things he said in his texts/emails and she snapped. Maybe stabbing is a cry for help? still can’t figure out why she’d stab first if she really wanted to kill him.

@whoome1638

3 жыл бұрын

@@handsomepetevideos I think to simply torture him. Stabbing is also more a personal act. She was soo involved with him before he died and she wanted to be deeply involved in the manner he died. I think she wanted him to suffer cause I’m positive she planned his death

Don’t have a sexual relationship with a stalker. I can’t believe people actually have to be told this, incredible!

@faticus5369

3 жыл бұрын

I’m with you!

@Lord_Hillcrest

3 жыл бұрын

How right you are.

@sweetgirl070707

3 жыл бұрын

Victim blaming is the best!

@baccarorenee

3 жыл бұрын

People are on a spectrum of complexities. Why else would we need profilers psychologists and psychiatrists.

@KingdomTingz

3 жыл бұрын

How could they possibly know....

This was definitely premeditated. She took her license plates off when she got to travis' house so no one could take down her plates info. That in itself should be the BIGGEST sign of premeditation. She was stopped by police after killing Travis because her license plate was upside down and the one in front wasn't even on and in her car or something like that. But both license plates were on correctly when she rented the car. She turned her phone off when she left CA and was on her way to AZ so she couldn't be tracked. She didn't turn it back on until she was en route to Salt Lake City away from AZ where if it was pinged it could be believable where she lied and gave a fictictious route for her road trip (obviously leaving out the real route she took to AZ). She told police her phone died for almost 24 hrs. She later said that her phone charger was in her back seat but stated earlier she couldn't find it and that's why it was off for so long. She purposely bought the third gas can in cash. She borrowed the two others. She saved all her other receipts that weren't any near arizona they were all paid credit card. So she could show proof if necessary. When the procesecutor, Juan Martinez, confronted her about the receipt of the third gas can purchased. She lied and said she returned the gas immediately because she miscalculated on how much gas she needed. There was no return transaction for the gas can at the date and walmart location she provided. Martinez also stated that she did in fact have all 3 gas cans when she went to salt lake city after the murder of travis to her friends house. He then showed receipts of gas station fill up before she went to Travis to show separate transactions all for gas and how the three were for filing up the gas cans as they did the calculations on how much gas was, mileage, and how much the gas cans held, etc.) .Also, she was first offered a red car but declined and accepted a white car and rented it like an hour away and not in her home town. She dyed her hair so shed look different. She set up the alibi by going to that guy's house in salt lake city. She set the staged robbery where 3 insignificant items were taken from the home including cash that she had was conveniently stolen and obviously the GUN, at a time when it was one of the only times her grandparents left Jodi alone and wouldn't be back for a substantial amount of time. Jodi allegedly then left the house during that time when the robbery happened. So to summarize it all up: 1) dyed her hair right before she killed travis 2) rented a car an hour away from her home when there are several rental car companies in her town 3) turned down a red car and chose white 4) took her license plates off the car when she parked at travis when she murdered him 5) borrowed two gas cans and purchased a third in cash (transactions at gas station reflected filling up all three cans) 6) all other transactions were made by credit or debit cards in CA or near Salt Lake City and saved in a shoe box at home (no receipts or transactions made anywhere near arizona so she left no tracks of her going and being there) 7) staged a robbery at her grandparents house so she could take the gun 8) purposely turning her phone off once she went off track the route she would later lie and give police for her road trip to see her friend in Salt Lake City. And turn it back on once she was back on her fictitious route How in the world does the above NOT prove premeditation?!??

@patty7791

3 жыл бұрын

Shannon Huntley ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! WELL WRITTEN, THANK YOU!

@harpernicole4536

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely pre-planned Hell she even had her excuses pre-planned! Lost her battery charger.. Pasadena kids with the screwdrivers..etc The only thing she didn't have plans for was no make-up when she was arrested .Damn Jodi should have atleast put some make-up on! Yeah girl that's what you shoulda done 🤷

@jennipeach2565

3 жыл бұрын

If he had, after their interlude, invited her to Cancun, she might have let him live...until a next time unless he married her. She called him the night before she left for Arizona...most probably to find out the whereabouts of his housemates...that we will never know. Its obvious that he was not expecting her as he didnt go out to meet her...could she have crept in through the doggy door and therefore had time to stand and watch him before Napolean acknowledged her presence...a lot of things we will never know...but it was premeditated 100%. She is pure evil. She is like a snake...that to guess that she kept flicking out drove me berserk.

@JOHNNYSGIRL1960

3 жыл бұрын

My God. You hit the nail on the head.

@mystyk5896

3 жыл бұрын

Spot on

Who’s here after the JCS psychology video? 🙋🏿‍♂️

@seraann4158

3 жыл бұрын

Me 🙋🏻‍♀️

@seraann4158

3 жыл бұрын

JCS is best!!!!!

@jullietowner2226

3 жыл бұрын

Lol...yup!😁

@shantayamusic1089

3 жыл бұрын

Me too 🙋🏽‍♀️ very interesting but Travis was weird too why did he let her in over and over for sex? Lame though 🙎🏽‍♀️

@jullietowner2226

3 жыл бұрын

@@shantayamusic1089 yup lame

I suffer with BPD, and it sucks reading/hearing about how evil and manipulative people with BPD are! It is so hard coping with this illness, yet people don't get how hard it is getting through life feeling so terrible and devastated!

@karolinarestricted7021

3 жыл бұрын

I bet it's the case of misdiagnosis with these people. They usually have some traits of BPD but can as well have traits of psychopathy and sociopathy. I was diagnosed with BPD, I am very impulsive but working on it. I even got more impulsive after therapy and prescribed drugs. It's better when I do it alone. I wanted to get know some borderlines and I met some really messy people. For instance I met a young man with hiv that from the very beginning of our relationship recorded me, wrote down all my details just in case something went wrong. We were friends and I helped him, for instance when he was diagnosed with possible tumor I paid the medical bills and agreed that he could stay overnight for several days in my apartment. When I was asleep he searched my things, my id etc. I told him many details of my life and about my relation with my business partner etc. One day I told him I needed more time for myself and I cannot be in such an intense relation, he trashed the recordings and the fact he has all the details about me at my face. He threatened to contract me with hiv by piercing my eye, to kill my cats, to call banks in which I had business credits and tell trash about me so they could sue me for fraud, he threated to mess with my business partner. He wanted me to pay him. I did at that moment. Fortunately I have a record of it and the record of our chat on facebook in which he reveals his threats and we talk about the case. Maybe one day I will report on him, I have 5 years to do so, 3 are left now. When he told me all these things I went into total breakdown, I cried I started to beat myself into face. We were going along the street , I begged and cried for help some people, I was crying and shaking and he was very toned and cold blood, he told the people who encountered that I am mentally ill, and that he is my friend and he will take care of me. Only after some weeks I came to conclusion I could have gone to police and report him. At first I reacted with insanity, that's how I usually react under stress situations. I am a total mess at these moments. I met also some girl, we become friends, and she often got me into very fierce discussions in which she tried to prove me that I am wrong about things we were talking about. Even if I told her ok, I am wrong about it, it doesn't matter for me, she would constantly go back to it imposing me her own beliefs on the matter.She was quite manipulative and had a prescription on every aspect of my life that were accidentally revealed in discussions. I couldn't stand that and besides she was quite nice, intelligent and interesting person I gave up this relation. Now I usu avoid new people. I think that living without diagnosis is much better. It's much more constructive to focus on different traits that can be messy in life that on diagnosis that resolves nothing. Sometime I made a look-see on the way borderlines are treated by courts here in Poland and I see that borderlines are treated much more harsh than regular people. Regular people without bd diagnosis are often treated much lighter in more serious crimes than bd.

@specialk1627

3 жыл бұрын

I agree,ni have bpd too and the stigma is terrible!

@LaylaVaughan

2 жыл бұрын

I don't have BPD but I have a family member who does. I think a lot of people witness some of the behavior harmful to others, read that BPD has an associated deficit in empathy, and see that BPD is in the same class as ASPD and think, "Oh they are unhinged psychopaths". But the empathy isn't really a "lack" as a global aspect of personality generally, but something that lapses when they feel threatened, and often misses the target. It's just inaccurate sometimes. People with BPD, in my experience, tend to be very empathetic otherwise. The pain people with BPD feel is really intense even if its hard for those such as myself without it to really have a means of grasping. When someone feels threatened, of course their empathy levels are going to drop. Like if someone was being attacked by a mugger with a knife, are they going to be like, "awee, this person must have had such an awful upbringing"? No. Fight or flight is the number one concern in that moment. When someone with BPD feels threatened in the security of a relationship or whatnot, it seems to me that it's intense enough that the brain is interpreting it as a legitimate attack and responds accordingly. So I think people should try having a little more empathy for those with BPD. I'm not a clinician, that's just what I have observed having a family member with it, and having a friend with it as well.

@LaylaVaughan

2 жыл бұрын

@What i want? of course, I only was speaking to the relevant instances.

@tomsmith6513

Жыл бұрын

I don't believe "manipulation" is a characteristic of BPD. I think the reason why a lot of people associate "manipulative behaviour" with BPD is because the behaviour appears to be manipulative, when actually the person with BPD is trying to cope with an uncomfortable situation. Maybe it's the fear of abandonment, or they're offended by something someone said. The resulting behaviour and response is an attempt to compensate for the threat they perceive. If they're offended or embarrassed by something someone has said, they will say whatever it takes to eliminate the threat of being offended or embarrassed. So, say, something happens that makes them look bad or stupid, they will blame someone else, possibly by lying or making up a story and convincing people that it's true. It's an act of desperation. It's their way of surviving and coping. The threat may seem trivial to most, normal people, but for people with BPD, the threshold is much lower. Small, trivial threats to them appear magnified. They can be highly sensitive.

Jodi took her license platea off so she would not be tracked via license plate readers or cameras. Pretty interesting if it was not premeditated.

@beanyboomer5391

5 жыл бұрын

Libby Tate She definitely had murder on her mind, she had planned and was ready. It would have been different if he took Jodi on that vacation though. He would have lasted a little long, maybe.

@mehere8228

5 жыл бұрын

So premeditated!

@TheSahand68

5 жыл бұрын

She alledgedly kept all receipts that would falsely "prove" she wasn't able to be on the scene of the crime...psychos like her have bad connection with reality... This makes them vulnerable to making stupid mistakes and easy to identify as perpetrators...

@roselamedia7599

5 жыл бұрын

@@beanyboomer5391 so sad but very true

@ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags

5 жыл бұрын

Let's not forget the butcher knife JA clearly brought with her as well...staying stealth was very critical detail in her plan...ie hair color changes day prior, 3 gas cans, cell phone off, disposal of her "tools" ..I'm very puzzled about TA allowed her inside his home, but perhaps explained by her telling TA that she was sorry and wanted his help in fixing the problem she had created...TA had been a very forgiving soul and JA clearly is a very seasoned pathological liar who was able to convince TA that she was remorseful and wanted redemption. TA was in his sexual prime and hadn't had any sexual contact with a woman for some time so he was quite horny and couldn't resist JA sexual advances as she knew exactly what would get him to lay with her...one last time for old times sake...last goodbye and sealed w a kiss...and a shot in the head and a few stabs in the back and the coup de gra...grand finale...throat cut...JA is demon possessed and I have zero doubt about this. She is a Succubus who also performed oral sex on young boys...that case was put on hold...I also wonder if she had been sexually explicit with the teenage son of her former boyfriend Derald Brewster that she lived with for a few months/years?

best advice I've heard - "Don't sleep with someone who has more problems than you do"

@bigbilltoady412

3 жыл бұрын

That means I'm out of luck.

@iacobgala1376

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigbilltoady412 😂😂😂

@Azeeeee66828

3 жыл бұрын

Does that just means that could make us the dangerous one lol

@moonshine588

3 жыл бұрын

So I have to be the Jodi?

@thegoldentroll

3 жыл бұрын

If everyone went by that advice, the only people who would get together would be those who have the exact same number of problems.

*I wash my digital camera in the dishwasher . What kind of psycho puts it in the washing machine* ?

She doesn't have healthy relationships with her family, or long term friendships. She didn't have a healthy relationship with her school and subsequently dropped out. Her unstable sense of identity is reflected in: her taking on Travis's identity as well as defining herself by being his girlfriend, (becoming a mormon, working for the same company, wearing a shirt that says " Travis Alexander's "). Once this was threatened, it threatened her whole sense of being, leading to her emotionally disproportionate reactions. Also, not having a direction with respect to a career. She also disconnected/ dissociated as many do during times of real or imagined abandonment. She appeared to have other traits that came out during the trial that align with ASPD and NPD. I am not diagnosing her, however I think she is a cluster B mess.

@smiley2477

4 жыл бұрын

Joy Marie I like that cluster B mess lol

@ceeceeobh2707

4 жыл бұрын

You’re so good

@angelagak399

4 жыл бұрын

Agree 100%. I think it was unfair to ask this doc to analyze JA when he clearly knows very little about her or the case.

@aashnachowdhury8618

4 жыл бұрын

That is not what unstable sense of identity means. Seems like she was just obsessed with Travis, and enamored with the idea of being his girlfriend.

@joycemartin9395

4 жыл бұрын

@@aashnachowdhury8618 As an adult she had no clear direction or idea who she was. Then she took on the " battered woman identity" and made t shirts to sell and donate the money to domestic violence organizations. I disagree Aashna. From what the psychologist said she had a very unstable sense of self identity. But this is all speculation as we don't know her or know of all the circumstances in her life. Just what the psychologist diagnosed her with.

Mental health and the law: A dangerous intersection. So very true.

Oh she knew she was going to commit murder. Why else turn her phone off the entire time she was in Arizona? Why did she bring 3, 5 gallon cans of gas with her? Why did she rent a car? All of these steps were to avoid detection and mislead people into thinking she had never been anywhere near Travis’ house.

@K-R-T

3 жыл бұрын

Yea, dr Todd doesn't seem to be all that knowledgeable of the facts of the case. the amount of planning and premeditation, and the subsequent lies she made up to get off at the expense of Travis' reputation all need to be factored in...

@Debo_OG

3 жыл бұрын

Also the break in and theft of her grandparents . 25 caliber handgun days before the murder

@K-R-T

3 жыл бұрын

@@Debo_OG Yes, I completely forgot about that!!

@honeybadger8713

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, this monster knew what she was doing. Premeditated murder.

@katieejeann2139

3 жыл бұрын

She also dyed her hair as well to alter her appearance. This was definitely premeditated murder. She’s a narcissistic psychopath for certain!! 🤡

The only thing that really shocked her and almost left her speechless was when Detective Flores confronted her with the pictures. 😳😬 That detective did such a stellar job.

That's a very good takeaway : sometimes people just do bad things without any apparent disorder.

@yehheapsmadaybut

3 жыл бұрын

But some people have a disorder and do bad things that are not excused by a disorder. She definitely had cluster B traits

@narcis3720

2 жыл бұрын

Isn't murdering and stalking someone pretty dysfunctional behavior, categorically implying mental unwell-being? Isn't the inability to function properly in society the reason we diagnose disorders in the first place? Might be wrong tho, someone clear me up.

@Juke582

Жыл бұрын

Jealousy can induce rage and I think in this case it’s true as simple reactive behavior. Her psychosis may have came in her trial as she was cold as ice and perpetuating 100 lies and vengefully targeted his family. Her testimony was chilling compared to her other sweet persona! We saw a dichotomy of opposite personas! The chilling effect of that made the audience feel she was very evil with BPD and Narcissism I thought!

I watched the whole trial and I felt that Jodi converting to Mormonism and trying to portray herself as the perfect Mormon wife and morphing her personality to fit previous relationships spoke to her unstable self ideation.

Arias planned every detail of the murder-how much gas to carry in three gas cans, turning off her cell phone, removing licenses,etc. She even snuck into his house through the pet door on an earlier visit. She stalked her victim day after day.

Thank you for introducing him as a guy she dated rather then a “Devoted Mormon”

I am so happy you decided to talk about Jodi Arias. I was waiting for you to review this case.

@brittaolson6550

5 жыл бұрын

Ms. Blonde Chaos Me too, but I’m not sure why I’m watching. Jodi Arias seems like such a shallow, boring personality, She seems so bland that I guess I do wonder where all the rage came from. Don’t buy the self-defense thing at all.

@Su_aSponte

5 жыл бұрын

I love these!!! Such great insight.

@doneestoner9945

4 жыл бұрын

This is fascinating. I watched the entire trial.

@kelliesoukaras8696

3 жыл бұрын

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Who would ever think having a sexual relationship with someone unstable enough to stalk you is ever a good idea?

@jasonmorris7764

4 жыл бұрын

Travis did

@patrickr9417

4 жыл бұрын

He betrayed his own believe. He should have known better.

@deemariedubois4916

4 жыл бұрын

Katey Kat Travis Alexander.

@yakkityyak9336

3 жыл бұрын

the lure of available vagina is very attractive

@deb310red

3 жыл бұрын

Mormon Girls don't put out.

She took pictures to disarm and not raise suspicion they typically took pictures of each other. The gun was very strong indication of premeditation

If Travis was the type of man who'd assault a girl, he would've fought alot harder as soon as it became apparent she had a knife/gun.

@simonw1313

2 жыл бұрын

How the hell do you fight harder against someone who has a gun? If the gunshot came first he was incapacitated. If the knife attack came first he was probably surprised. If he could have avoided dying I'm sure he would have beat the hell out of her if it was a possibility. I don't buy into the idea he died because he was too nice.

@suzanneadamson1306

2 жыл бұрын

@@simonw1313 As I recall, the forensic people deduced that she stabbed him in the back in the shower first d/t the blood spatter from his respiratory tract in the sink when he stumbled out. If no vital organs had been hit, 1 well-placed elbow to her face may've saved him. He was not a violent man, just too naive, and he let sex get the better of him.

Such amazing content. There’s no attempt to overdramatize things to draw in more viewers. He just tells it like he sees it as a medical professional. Wonderfully refreshing. Keep it up, Dr. Grande!

Whoa. Rough math , but figure 2 years, 82000 is over 100 emails a day. I'm shocked that it's even possible to send that many.

@phoebej1332

5 жыл бұрын

Probably from jodis clingyness

@beanyboomer5391

5 жыл бұрын

She was obsessed with Travis.

@jojo-fs5it

5 жыл бұрын

over 80,000 Text Messages NOT Emails! The Doctor has it wrong!

@mehere8228

5 жыл бұрын

Obsessive and jealousy a dangerous combo..to the extreme to commit a crime.

@jwhippet8313

5 жыл бұрын

@@jojo-fs5it thats still huge. One every 10 mins all day long.

I realize I’m late to this video...but you’re 100% WRONG on SO many levels. I’m actually shocked you made this video w/out doing more research. I’ve watched many studies on Arias, read books & also watched every hour of the entire trial. Everything you stated she actually spoke about in her OWN journal. She said verbatim...”I feel so empty inside & just want to end it all.” Her family had a very tumultuous relationship w her...due to paranoia. Her own parents spoke to Esteban Flores (the day after she was arrested) about how she’s been “a little strange” for many many years....never allowing her family in her own home. Her mom begged her to get help. Arias’s moods would scarily shift from one min to the next & that frightened her mother. Her friends would call her parents in the mid of the night to get her help...years before meeting Alexander. Also, the entire murder WAS calculated & 100% premeditated. She went to great lengths (which many people addressed in the comments) to prepare (stealing the 22) covering her tracks, gathered supplies, disguised herself/hair, rented a car outta of her city & altered the license plates, stopped at an ex bf for extra gas cans, disabled her phone while in AZ & so on & on & on & on. She’s clearly sociopathic & possibly has BPD. I feel like a tremendous amount of research needed to be done before this video was made. Oh & it’s blatantly obvious regarding the photos. Actually common sense. She coaxed him in the shower to take pictures of him in there so he’s naked & vulnerable & trapped in a tiny shower stall. But she didn’t plan very well. Alexander put up a fight. But since she stabbed him in the heart first...he most likely stood up from being seated in the stall...coughed blood into the sink. Hence the blood splatter pattern. And while in shock, she repeatedly stabbed him in the back & head. He prob stumbled down the hallway to escape & collapsed. She then slit his throat & from the photos on his camera, she dragged him back into the shower to rinse off the DNA. (Evidence photo of her dragging his dead body back into the bathroom). That is where she took one more blow out on him & shot him in the head. The shell casing was found on TOP of a pool of blood. The part of his skull where he was shot would’ve taken him down instantly. The bullet came last. That’s been proven. Ok, my rant is done. I watched that trial & the difference done.

@Rayshader

3 жыл бұрын

Totally concur! I have just watched another video, this being the second and won't be subscribing. Rather than to study the situation on it's own merits, some experts may choose exert their academic definitions that they are accustomed to as the measure and standard. How is that textbook truth any helpful? As if it makes any difference to one of the most gruesome crimes ever! My heart goes out to Travis and his family. RIP

@beauposhbp1406

3 жыл бұрын

Another thing that not many notice is that in a recorded interogation interview she says the EXACT day their 5 month relationship ended (June 29th) and its reported she stabbed him 29 times. The entire murder was definetly premeditated and very personal/rage filled. Theres a record online of all of their texts, emails, her journal entries and time markers that also show he allegedly was going to take Jodi to Cancun then after talking to his close friends about Mimi he called the company to change Jodi from his plus one to Mimi and told Jodi that it was cancelled but she found out the truth that he wanted to take Mimi instead of her. I think this escalated to her revealing and threatening to show the church the phone sex recordings she took of them and that explains the explosive text exchange between the two right before the murder when he says multiple things about her ruining/ going to ruin his life etc. When the blackmail didnt work and she realized he was taking another girl (Mimi) seriously she became enraged, planned the whole thing out, popped up at his house 'for sex' (many reports of her just showing up in his house unexpected and even crawling through the doggy door). She had sex with him one last time, took the risque pics to try and seduce him into what she wanted one last time and when it wasnt enough still, she went through with the plan. She is coldblooded. Even after the victims family statement when they said they hope and pray he wasnt alive still when she sawed at his throat Jodi got right up and said 'I actually do remember he was still alive when his throat was cut' (not exact quote but the video is on here), she continued even after to assasinate his character on the stand and torment his family one last time with her statement.

@beauposhbp1406

3 жыл бұрын

also i've seen some reports that she originally wanted to attack Mimi and interestingly enough RIGHT as she was getting arrested she was getting ready to leave and had a knife and some other things in her car. I cant believe she honestly thinks an appeal till this day will do her any good, she completely butchered him

@patty7791

3 жыл бұрын

Dana, I agree with you! I was so shocked at his opinion on Jodi.. I too, watched every second of the story: Their relationship, murder, arrest and trial... If this doesn’t fit “premeditated, then term shouldn’t exist in any court! Last I heard, she was “running the show” in prison! As well, many fans sending her money, and letters of adoration!I’m not trained enough to give her diagnosis, but I know 2

@patty7791

3 жыл бұрын

Sent comments too soon, But 2 things I know... It WAS premeditated, And she’s “batshit” CRAZY! too soon,

Excellent content and breakdown of events regarding Arias and Alexander. Dr. Grande is a one man TV show.

Can you please do one like this for the Selena quintanilla murder case?? The woman who killed her was her fan club president and she's still in jail till this day and this happened in 1995.

@roflmeowkittehs

4 жыл бұрын

I’d still like to hear what he has to say about it

@calanthiarose

4 жыл бұрын

And she'll be up for parole in 2025. I still can't believe she didn't get the death penalty. At the very least give her life without parole.

@Ytnzy250

4 жыл бұрын

Siphoning funds from the fan club & other businesses she had access to just over £30,000. Had Selena not confronted her personally she would still be alive today. I believe she was killed not from jealousy, but fearing being exposed as a thief & going to jail. Heated words & threats were no doubt exchanged when confronted over her criminal behaviour & she snapped. A timeless motive, greed, anger & perhaps a (small) sprinkling of jealousy. I've lost count of the amount of documentaries i've watched here on YT where the accused is confronted by a friend/family member & is shot dead. Does this guy dissect cases this old?

@Ytnzy250

3 жыл бұрын

@@freyjathorsdottir5126 Oh brother, 😁

@laurenmay2098

3 жыл бұрын

That case was very sad. She was unstable and a thief. She was taking money from Selena. So young and talented.

I think she planned to give Travis one last chance to take her on the trip to Cancun. When he finally refused for the last time, that’s when she lured him into the shower and killed him. He was simply NOT going to leave her behind when he went to Cancun. I think it could have gone either way, depending on his final decision.

@TheSahand68

5 жыл бұрын

Sounds to me that this might be very likely triggering moment....

@alyciastaine6994

5 жыл бұрын

@@troycambo what are you talking about? She completely made up the pedo story to try and get out of the murder charge. She didn't mention it after sentencing. She clearly had a huge motive to lie and a lie is exactly what it was!

@dianekimball6812

4 жыл бұрын

@@troycambo I agree with you.

@shrutefarms4741

4 жыл бұрын

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@shrutefarms4741

4 жыл бұрын

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I love this channel. It's so interesting the way Dr. Grande approach each topic.

@kkheflin3

3 жыл бұрын

@Chris Crocker...And if you watch his videos this year from 2020 you will also get a taste of his dry wit and humor. Really priceless. He didn't use to do it in these older videos and I've watched his videos for several years now but THIS year is his best ever. He's so fascinatiing to listen to.

I really appreciated your sensitivity when talking about specific disorders and when i watch you i dont hear the stigma showing through your opinion like i would usually expect. when it comes to BPD specifically there is an alarming amount of mental health professionals that fully buy into the stigma and pass it along to others. I was so glad to not see that in this video.

The people asked, Dr. Grande listened!

@vivavoice7211

4 жыл бұрын

Its a shame Dr Grande is not well-informed about this case.

Wouldn't think you'd need to say "dont have sex with someone that's obsessed or stalking", but it happens so much!!! Odd. People can really get stuck together...

@dodgeplow

3 жыл бұрын

well for some it's hard to turn down desperate sex, especially if he was a bit of a player. Not stuck together, just very convenient for this guy, in some ways taking advantage of her, while she also fooled herself.

@Johnnybomb1

3 жыл бұрын

@@dodgeplow She was probably wild and passionate in bed, and/or did whatever kinky shit and rough sex he liked. Those women are rare to come by and usually quite hot-headed and prone to fits of rage and mood swings. It's hard to walk away from those types of women. Particularly if you're a man with high sex drive. Just sayin' 😂

@dodgeplow

3 жыл бұрын

@@Johnnybomb1 i understand. That's why I mentioned it lol

@bigbilltoady412

3 жыл бұрын

@@Johnnybomb1 Been there my friend. I had one of those years back. Passionate, and totally erotic but very prone to, well lets just say times when you just wanted to get the hell out of there. Oh, beautiful on top of it. Still know her but at arms length only. Been tempted but I know better. Older and wiser. They are out there. Be careful, Ha!!

@lisamcdonald2877

3 жыл бұрын

He obviously did not deserve to be murdered. He was, however, a hypocritical Mormon who claimed to be a 30 year old virgin. LDS will excommunicate members for sex outside of marriage, so he had a lot to lose if their sexual relationship was made public. She converted to his faith and I believe she thought he would marry her. When the truth became clear, that she would never be more than a side piece, she went for revenge. She is where she belongs now.

I've learned so dang much about mental health from these videos. I originally came to this channel to watch a video about L Ron Hubbard, and the next thing you know I'm learning about narcissistic behaviors and red flags in relationships. Dr. G is the gold standard of what every single content creator should aspire to be. I'm super grateful for this channel. Everyone else is playing checkers while this guy is playing 4D chess. Dr. G if you're reading this, you also inspired me to go back to school. I decided I want to be a nurse at a mental health unit to help other veterans experiencing mental health issues. Not going to lie, there's a mountain of schooling ahead of me, but for the first time in a really long time, I'm excited and optimistic about the future. Thanks Dr. Grande!

OMG You really show your HEART when you defend people with mental health issues. THANK YOU SO MUCH! It is so difficult to have compassion for those who are violent, but your comments bring us back to reality - that mental illness is not a statement of worthlessness or evil. Thank you.

I’ve read quite a bit about the case, and according to Jodi’s family she had affective instability since she was a teenager to the point where her family thought she might have bipolar disorder. She also described having a general deep rage in emails to Travis and expressed extreme anger toward certain people, particularly her mother. She described having a vague sense of self and a feeling of emptiness in diaries. . . . I don’t think this is Dr. Grande’s most thorough assessment.

@glitter7777

3 жыл бұрын

And you don’t have to have suicide attempts but rather constant thoughts of suicide which are noted in her journal. Also she split quite a bit. Travis was the best until he wasn’t then he was the worst. Her going to the guys house and dry humping him right after the murder again relationship instability and jumping from one man to the next due to fear of abandonment. His assessment made for a great discussion but I think she leans much more toward BPD than narcissism

Travis was inviting Jodi to his house and then telling others that he had cut things off. He wasn't being honest. His ex Deanna saw her at Travis' house and told her to be more careful next time.

@jfraserfisher

3 жыл бұрын

Nor was she, they both agreed to separate but still slept together. She would also turn up uninvited and end up sleeping together. He did tell her he was moving on and was interested in another girl and looking for a wife. She also told him she was moving on. She also stalked him

@kierankennedy6971

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Kinda messed up, him being in a relationship, but I mean, I wouldn’t want anything except maybe a quickly with a crazy bitch like that myself. I wouldn’t want any of my friends knowing I was seeing someone like that.

@AnaisEngland

3 жыл бұрын

@@kierankennedy6971 You better watch out for 'crazy bitches' then.

@simonw1313

2 жыл бұрын

@@kierankennedy6971 - This is thing - Travis expected to use Arias for the odd "quicky", and God knows what he was telling her to make that palatable to her, and expected no come back.

@kierankennedy6971

2 жыл бұрын

@@AnaisEngland nah, I don’t associate with crazy people, at least to my knowledge. I’ve been known to not be the best people reader however

She was a narcissist it seemed to me. In my arm chair psychiatrist opinion.

@Bigbagofbones

3 жыл бұрын

@@luxetveritas4633 nah fam

@goldilocks3593

2 жыл бұрын

Straight up psychopath in my armchair psychiatrist opinion. Her own parents were afraid of her.

@samanthacartwright3407

2 жыл бұрын

I believe both: she is a narcissist and a psychopath.

I too have been looking forward to your analysis and opinion of the Alexander murder. Thank you for covering this topic.

BPD would probably be a compliment to her....shes a very complicated individual and your assessment, narcissist, is likely far more accurate... very good assessment..... Thank you Todd!

@livingintheforest3963

5 жыл бұрын

Everyone seems to be obsessed with the word “ narcissist “ she is way beyond narcissist although she has those traits too. She is classic sociopath!!

@Hi-qe9gt

5 жыл бұрын

Bindi Bindi i agree, she’s dead in the eyes and emotionally stagnant. Sociopaths are also narcissistic by default though. she’s both.

@juliebolger668

5 жыл бұрын

She has shark eyes.

@iamlight1

5 жыл бұрын

@@livingintheforest3963 Yes, I am starting to see a parallel with Chris Watts and beginning to think psychopathy. Staged burglary to get a gun and took it with her to Arizona.

@beyondbeauty6921

5 жыл бұрын

Borderline personality disordered to a T definition fits her so well

Travis wasn’t exclusively dating the girl after Jodi, it was casual. He was single.

@ishootbishez

3 жыл бұрын

Ugh yeah that’s the crazy part..

@exxology1

3 жыл бұрын

He was 5 days from taking the other woman on a trip! Maybe he was single but why tell all your friends she’s a stalker but continuously lead her on..

@Preservestlandry

2 жыл бұрын

@@exxology1 the woman told him she'd go with him but as friends. She wasn't interested in him.

@thehapagirl92

Жыл бұрын

@@exxology1 Yeah why lead Jodi on

@thehapagirl92

Жыл бұрын

@@ishootbishez Jodi thought Mimi Hall (the woman) and Travis were exclusive which pissed her off which is definitely crazy. I agree that killing him because of jealousy was crazy

Great video! Thank you for the nuanced and unbiased review.

I love your content on murderers. I hope you keep going, maybe delving into true crime themes more and more. I've always wondered about their mental states, very rarely explored other than some shallow descriptions.

@DrGrande

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much :)

A great analysis. People are really quick to diagnose and all, but even experts differ in opinion. I can only hope anyone seeking mental health care finds an individual as qualified and committed as Dr. Grande. Even just watching these videos makes me feel calmer and more rational in the face of the sheer amount of info and stimuli pouring in from the world :) The voice of Reason!

i discovered your videos recently, I find your comments accurate, thoughtful and very useful. I work in the mental health care field and I want to thank you for sharing your ideas that are helping me to review certain constructs. Moreover I appreciate your respectful style and kindness in the way to refer to clients, which shows also in your critiques and case analysis. I think that in certain ways your inputs alleviate some of the stigma that still nowadays carries seeing a counselor or mental health professional

Well, as a nurse, I was always of the opinion that once someone whom you’re dating has threatened suicide, your friendship and emotional support could still be offered but it might be better to cool any ongoing romantic relationship with him/her. But those are only my feelings.

She shot him 2nd. I watched the medical examiners testimony. The bullet hole didn't swell or bleed. His heart was done pumping

@catherineseiler7407

4 жыл бұрын

She wanted him dead! she's very sick!

Thank you so much for pointing out that not all people with personality disorders are evil. Just like all of us humans, it is the ACT that is evil...not the person. I get concerned when words like evil are used to describe mental health conditions.

@trixielou4223

5 жыл бұрын

@@lisalissner1070 I know my pont of view is controversial.. However, no I wouldn't use the term to discribe Dahmer when considering his mental state. I might use the term if I was viewing his behaviour from a moral or religious stand point though.

@k.ambriz9789

5 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. Evil is a judgment of mortality. We don't use the word evil to describe someone's behavior in the mental health world. At least not in my experience. People can behave in so many ways unrelated to their diagnoses. They have feelings and desires independent of it. When I worked inpatient we would joke that "jerk" isn't a diagnosis. We call that acting out. People would wreck havoc for secondary gain.

@nicorizzo5402

5 жыл бұрын

@@lisalissner1070 He did evil things. That's the distinction we're making, that people aren't evil because they have a disorder, they're evil if they do evil things.

@lillieeve6969

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah both law and religion are a bit scary mixed with mental health

@lillieeve6969

5 жыл бұрын

Nicolette James it it really is helpful to think of it that way-it’s why people should be diagnosed taking the index crime out of the equation as much as possible.

Dr. Todd must walk around seeing things on another level than the average person. His description and breakdown of events always leaves me with a deeper understanding of what happened and I tend to feel these people are far crazier than I ever previously knew. Like, yes you can get someone is insane, but Dr. Todd opens your eyes to just *how* crazy. The world can be very scary and I hope gathering information from his channel can help protect me in the future with noticing signs and help me to not interact with crazy

She doesn't seem exceedingly impulsive actually I'd say she seems balanced there which is what allowed her to carry out what she did. I've met many people with quite serious BPD and she did not come across as BPD at all. Rather I think she has NPD fairly moderately and ASPD quite seriously. She was quite emotionless in the way she handled herself.

@maishadigital8410

2 жыл бұрын

Wouldnt that make it psychopathy? Not Narcissistic personality disorder?

@Tawroset

10 ай бұрын

@@maishadigital8410 There is a disorder that combines psychopathy and narcissism. It's called "malignant narcissism" and it's basically code for evil. Think Hitler, Stalin, etc.

I just can't thank you enough for your videos and the thoughtful teaching within them. The unfortunate stigma associated with mental illness is a major roadblock to getting help for people who are struggling.

I think there was more than just the gas cans that pointed at premeditation. Each point may just be a grain of sand, but together it’s a pile that would reasonably conclude premeditation. Gas Cans: she borrowed 2 and bought 1 more then lied about returning the extra 1. She normally used 2 on long trips, not three, so that is suspicious. Cellphone: she turned off her cellphone (or it died as she claims) before she got to Travis’ house and it didn’t turn back on until she was on the HWY to Ryan’s house. Rental Car & License Plate: she rented a car in a different city from where she lived and took off the license plate. (A cop testified to pulling her over because the license plate was upside down) Hair change: she went from blonde to brunette right before the trip. Gun: a .25 caliber gun was stolen from her grandmothers home days before Travis was killed, the same caliber he was shot with. Edit: typo

@vanessaspeaks

5 жыл бұрын

OMG21ization I think for some people it’s hard for them to reconcile in their minds that a woman, especially an attractive one, could commit an especially heinous murder without provocation. But obviously, women can be just as evil as men (#equality lol jk). I think they both played games, but it wasn’t anything out of the norm of the typical dysfunctional on-again-off-again relationships out there - at least on the surface & in the beginning. I agree he was too immature to settle down, and she went beyond the norm with the hacking into his emails, crazy texts, stalking - yikes. I did read about Travis’ upbringing & t was sad. But I think Jodi probably has a seductively charming personality, almost like a psychopath, so I think that’s a trap many men could have fallen into.

@nursekrmn

5 жыл бұрын

Vanessa yes she premeditated the murder, and thought she was going to get away with it, but thanks to the prosecution JM, she was exposed in plain sight.

@lillieeve6969

5 жыл бұрын

No question and she would have qualified for premeditation even if it was just in a few moments too. It doesn’t have to be this elaborate and usually isn’t-they have premeditation out the ass in the case in the crime itself (knife + gun in shower)

@Andi-81

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly! This guy has it all wrong.

@irisharan3038

5 жыл бұрын

@@vanessaspeaks I was going to contribute along the lines that you did until I read your posts ! - the gas cans as well as her lie about returning one as well as switching off the phone definitely pointed to premeditation to avoid being traced to the area, removing the plates, the "stolen" gun - you have covered all the bases. She most likely encouraged him to take a shower on the pretence of taking photographs because he would have been naked, unguarded, nothing to reach for to defend himself and at his most vulnerable, otherwise he could have overpowered her. She claimed it was his idea whereas it came out from one of her many ex's that she encouraged him to do this also. This most likely proves premeditation. The sexual encounter between them also indicates premeditation in order to put him at ease. Don't forget he had emailed her shortly before saying she was a "sociopath" had conned him and treated him like a "dildo with a heartbeat" and what the prosecution said was "prophetic" the worst thing that ever happened to him. I have some experience of covert narcissists in particular and sex and charm as you suggest are one of their main weapons of manipulation. His email sparked a "narcissistic injury" where they are at their very most dangerous. It is very obvious the power she had over him even though he knew what she was. The on and off again is called "trauma bonding" - effectively he was addicted to her even knowing what she was and covert narcissists routinely reel back in old ex's and view them as their property. They also "project" and accuse the victims of their abuse of what they are doing and you heard plenty at trial of her accusing Travis of abuse and manipulation - they always tell on themselves- Incidentally the photo's she took of him and he of her she remembered to delete but were retrieved even after she put the thing in the wash. No one stabs someone - front and back over two dozen times, slash them in the throat and shoot them in the head in order to "defend" themselves.

Dr Grande this my first time watching you and I’m hooked.. it’s 1am in Boston and I’m binge watching all your videos..

Dr.Grande, very well done. Thank you so much!!!

I love the dispassionate and reasoned analysis. I feel smarter after watching each of these videos.

I discovered your channel recently and this is an excellent example of why I appreciate your commentary. I was diagnosed with BPD several years ago, and for me, it was like the lights turning on in a dark room. I hate the stigma surrounding it, inside and outside mental health settings (I’ve had some mental health professionals be truly awful), and I feel like BPD is completely misunderstood by most people.

@REELOrange

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve had it too and I couldn’t agree more ❤️

This is a brilliant and very thoughtful analysis, thank you!

IF TRAVIS DIDNT TRUST HER AND WAS AFRAID OF HER MAYBE HE SHOULDNT HAVE CONTINUED TO USE HER AND MAKE HER FEEL LIKE A FOOL, NOT TOO SMART

First major sign to run from the relationship was slashed tires. Travis caught her in many lies but he overlooked them.

@susanfrancis3761

2 жыл бұрын

The sex was good!

Love how sensible & fact-based your analysis is! 😊

Jodi Arias's grandmother said that Jodi would become a obsessive over all the guys she dates. She said she was always worried about her because she was vulnerable because of the fact that she becomes obsessed and then ends up being hurt when they leave her.

Thank you for walking us through the different opinions of the various mental health folks, and how the law and psychological diagnosis aren't exactly a good combination.

Dr. Grande I'm so glad I recently found your channel! I love the topics and u do a great job!Thanks again for all the great info! Be well!

I'm glad I found your channel! I have liked everything I've seen so far. You don't over dramatize things. It's about facts, your opinion as a professional and all the information without theatrics! Thank you!

I think Jodi wanted to Travis back and when she travelled to his house she was hoping that she could "fix" it with him - maybe blackmailing him under pressure by saying she will expose the sexual photos to his family which would have been bad for his family as mormone. But the plan back fired. Travis sent her off and then her plan B to kill him came into action. Thats what I think

I know your newer videos and I just happened upon this one. I much prefer your style here. You come across as much more genuine and authentic.

Im obsessed with this case ❤ never clicked so fast!

I’ve been so looking forward to you covering this topic!

Thank you for this message!

Great point at conclusion of video highlighting the stigmatisation of personality disorders 👌🏻

This was excellent - thank you! I’m a new subscriber and I especially appreciated the way you talk about the complexity of the intersection between psychology and the law.

@DrGrande

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!!

Lawyers "buy" from experts what they "sell" to juries!

@doneestoner9945

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. The defense hires experts to tell them what they want to hear.

I love your videos all the time , Dr. Grande.

One other thing that I haven't heard mentioned. The fact that Jodi had one final roll in the sack with Travis before killing him, what does that say about her? It seems similar to something a serial killer would do. I don't know if sadistic is the right word to describe it but predatory maybe, particularly if she had in fact by that point decided she was going to kill him.

@moondog7694

Жыл бұрын

No, she was on the fence while in bed with him. It was only when he said that he was going to take a vacation with Mimi when she asked him about his holiday plans that she then came to the conclusion that there was a zero percent chance of her getting married to him instead of the one percent chance that she was desperately clinging to. I think she thought that maybe if she was good enough in bed, she could convince him to dump Mimi and get married to her instead. But despite her best effort in bed that night, it wasn't good enough to change Trevor's mind. At that point, she lost all hope, and decided that the only way to end her involuntary torturous obsession would be to get rid of the object of her obsession. Then she wouldn't have to be tortured for the rest of her life with the thought of Mimi and Trevor canoodling with each other and not her (although I think she might have been willing to have a Sister Wives Fundamentalist Utah thing going on with Mimi, but unfortunately for Jodi, I'm guessing Travis only wanted to have a monogamous marriage, and not a plural marriage).

The stalking, slashing of his tires, threatening his new love interest and then murder are all very bad signs. Also the horrific way he was killed. I was surprised Anti Social Personality Disorder wasn't mentioned more in this case... but I'm not sure if there also must be a definitive diagnosis of NPD to draw that conclusion. Very interesting assessment, Dr. Grande.

@laproserpina2620

4 жыл бұрын

Anarcho Frills BPD and ASPD can be comorbid, it’s not uncommon for them to be co-occurring. So someone with both BPD and ASPD could have an anxious/preoccupied attachment style.

@laproserpina2620

4 жыл бұрын

@Anarcho Frills Hmmm yeah, I won't argue because you're right about the conduct disorder thing I didn't think of that. Though one thing that strikes me as odd, is how calm she is in her interviews with TV networks, and how she was able to con and manipulate fellow inmates (one got tattooed by Jodi) so easily. I know everyone with BPD is not the same but I can't imagine a someone with BPD being so calm and clear headed in the face of getting life in prison and such. So much so that they are friendly with interviewers and able to so easily manipulate inmates. I would say if she has BPD she at least has more narcissistic traits than the average borderline as I would think those with NPD are more calm in the face of stuff like being accused of murder. Or I guess she's just like the one BPD woman super in control of how they outwardly express emotion.

@nicoleowens2318

3 жыл бұрын

@@laproserpina2620 the intense emotions of BPD would not have been present because she wasn't being abandoned by the reporter. Travis rejecting her, however, would have. BPD is about interpersonal relationships more than anything, so the closer and more emotionally dependent you get the worse the reaction. With strangers, there is no reason to feel that way, you're not being abandoned, they are just there to ask questions. If the reporter asked her a question like, "but, Travis made it clear he did not want you," she probably would have reacted much more strongly because it's triggering her to remember his rejection. Just giving another perspective about what you said. I think it's entirely possible she is this calm here, because she's trying to look good to the public. She would be thinking much more rationally than she would in a situation where someone she loves or feels she needs rejects her. The reporter is just some rando. Maybe she'd care if they didn't like her, because borderlines are very sensitive to criticism or not being liked, but it still would never bring out the reaction Travis saw, Travis was the object of her attention, her goal, and for her it probably felt like that goal was being crushed by him. I have borderline, BTW, and I've done a lot of research, so that's just my opinion, but I can see how that would work. I am not homicidal, never have been, but I've definitely been highly emotional and irrational over relationship issues that brought separation to the table. I could definitely see how seeing somebody for a long time and them playing with you would set someone who's already vulnerable to rejection off.

Excellent, presentation as always Dr. Grande, thank you, for an unbiased, look into this case.🤔 I really enjoy your video(s) immensely.

Thank you, Dr G, fascinating analysis. Hello readers and subscribers, Stay Safe.

I grew up with a mother with Borderline Personality . From what I know , Jodi doesn’t fit. She is very narcissistic! She is a sociopath and is just bad!

@sweetgirl070707

3 жыл бұрын

Personality disorders from the same cluster often coexist, so she can absolutely exibit both BD and NP traits

Thanks for taking the time to give this a good amount of thought Dr. Grande. I've spent a lot of time being and armchair detective in this case, and many other cases. You mentioned something very important here, depending on which side of the fence you're on depends on the appropriate label to stick on someone. I consistently see the same thing happen with whomever the victim might be in a case like this, where the victim is no longer there to be questioned. What I mean by this is that, the victim is portrayed as somewhat of an angel, there isn't a whole lot of 'dirt' brought up on them during the case/investigation. No, I'm not encouraging anyone to create a smear campaign or try to stick something on someone who is unfortunately dead, but it is important to know that there are two sides to every story, two peas in the pod. In this case in particular, if you spend enough time looking in to things you will realise that Travis was no angel, and could quite possibly have had some impact on the actions of Jodi. I'm by no means a Jodi 'white knight', she is an adult and is responsible for her actions. If you look at the Ezra McCandless case, you see a lot of the same 'legal' response/approach. The legal system leaves a lot of room for improvement, in particular the need for a more open book honest approach.

Frankly, I'm more shocked over the 82,000 emails in 2 years than the murder itself.

@theresasutherland3410

5 жыл бұрын

I agree that amount of emails is definitely obsessional and beyond belief.

@mehere8228

5 жыл бұрын

@@theresasutherland3410 yes this screams obsessive and looming extreme criminal jealousy!!

@capefear56

3 жыл бұрын

Crunched some numbers: that is roughly 112 messages every day. Absolutely nutters.

luv your channel. Keep up the good work.

After seeing about 2 hours of Arias on JCS, she seemed bright, articulate and a pathological liar. Wishing you and all, a healthy, prosperous 2021. Thank you for your very interesting programs, Dr. Grande.

these 2 (Travis and Jodi) really are just a perfect storm. He was perfectly willing to exploit her emotional state / personality for sex as long as it suited him. Wonder what DSM diagnosis HE would receive?

@CoffeeLover-mz7bk

3 жыл бұрын

IKR

@jaimeduncan6167

3 жыл бұрын

Arias say she toke the inisiative many times. It's not clear to me that he was exploiting her for sex. I wonder if you will say the same of a woman killed by a man that was havin sex with her. Was she exploiting him for sex? or maybe she was exploiting him because he pay for the dates? You sound like a typical machista blaming the victim.

@dermotosullivan3065

3 жыл бұрын

That is quite a repulsive comment to make about a murder victim.

@dermotosullivan3065

3 жыл бұрын

@D G If you check out her Facebook account you will see that this wasnt just a one off misandrist aberration.

@echidnaspikes8563

3 жыл бұрын

Exploited for sex? Like women can't enjoy sex in different forms. No no no, when it comes to bed, it's always a man, who gets pleasure and exploits poor women

I've just discovered your channel and am completely hooked Thank you for your hard work & excellent presentation.

@Dr.Grande, you are nearing 1,000,000 subs. Congratulations 👏🎉

I haven’t watched your videos in a LONG time and DANG you have a lot of subs now. Congrats Dr!

always been eerily interested in this particular case. your take is always interesting dr. grande and this time you did not disappoint. thank you for your hard work and dedication to your videos, I highly enjoy them and have for a very long time

Thank you for covering this topic. It is appreciated.

@DrGrande

5 жыл бұрын

You are quite welcome!

Thank you for examining Jodia Arias. Her behaviour during the trial was quite chilling. One thing I'd like to ask is whether you could do a video addressing the difference between PTSD and BDP as quite a number of women who have been through traumatic events and developed PTSD were revealed to have been diagnosed - incorrectly - with BPD by professionals who were not aware of the trauma. Thanks again for another insightful analysis.

Love the lesson 💕💕🌻

Love you Dr. Grande! 💙

Always enjoy and appreciate your dispassionate and intelligent analysis. :-)

Love your videos. Could you please analyze Darlie Routier? She is so strange.

@BILLY-LIAR

4 жыл бұрын

Darlie Routier is the female equivalent of Chris Watts. I welcome Dr.Grande's analysis of Routier.

@nettejohnson7492

3 жыл бұрын

@@BILLY-LIAR idk, I'm not 100% convinced that she did it. Nothing about that case makes sense. Her husband divorced and remarried after 15 years standing by her. Their baby died at age 15 from some disease; sorry I can't remember exactly from what. Sad....

@belmum1689

3 жыл бұрын

@@nettejohnson7492 I Know, I keep thinking the husband I mean there is no emotions from him also.

@michaellovely6601

2 жыл бұрын

@@nettejohnson7492 Actually, Drake Routier is still very much alive and has beaten Leukemia.

Great analysis

Your videos are the best on the internet 💗