Joaquin Phoenix's Infamous Appearance With Dave | Letterman
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In this iconic Letterman interview, Joaquin Phoenix joins the show to discuss his decision to retire from acting and pursue a music career. (Air Date 2/11/2009)
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Ironically Dave would go on to steal this look in retirement.
@doctorjekyll6125
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@saulestey3165
Жыл бұрын
Damn. . .
@HawthorneHillNaturePreserve
Жыл бұрын
That’s so funny because it’s true!😂
@ryanhudson6903
Жыл бұрын
Fact
@rennatsinned5451
Жыл бұрын
I know I was just going to say that. He loves that look now.
“Joaquin, I’m sorry you couldn’t be here tonight” Is an all time letterman quote.
@Garrett1240
Жыл бұрын
That’s why he’s infinitely better than Fallon and kimmel
@sydicate15t
Жыл бұрын
Cbd no thc flow weak hate to be cheap n eat 8 4 a keepsake myteeh ache
@rishabhaniket1952
Жыл бұрын
Ironically it was Phoenix who was trolling Letterman
@JamesBond-uh4gq
Жыл бұрын
Realize it's Andy Kaufman
@toreckman8899
11 ай бұрын
@@Garrett1240who?
This is more unsettling than the talk show scene in joker 😂
@AJScraps
4 ай бұрын
Fr I was gettin worried😂
@Sadc0m
3 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
@MegaChris456
2 ай бұрын
Joaquin is even sitting in the same posture that he has in the Joker talk show scene; right leg over the left leg. I bet there's side by side comparisons of that on KZread 😂
@JohnNOHUD
2 ай бұрын
😂
@lisaplatt3697
Ай бұрын
I was just about to comment the same exact thing. When watching this clip I kept flashing to Joaquin as the Joker talking with Murray😂👍
You can see him smirk a couple of times. Great Performance.
@philpalmer4877
Ай бұрын
Letterman later confirmed it was indeed planned and he was made aware of how it would go.
@EleazarGray
Ай бұрын
@@philpalmer4877 where can this be seen?
@ts1821
29 күн бұрын
@@philpalmer4877 I read he didn't know until the end of the interview when they went to commercial and Joaquin leaned in to tell him. They even address it the next time he's on the show.
@ts1821
29 күн бұрын
@@EleazarGrayif you watch his next appearance on the show they confirm that Letterman in fact did NOT know it was an act.
@eliaskontos1109
26 күн бұрын
It was featured in phoenix’s mocumentary ‘I’m still here’ where he come up with a plan to convince the media that he lost his mind
"You're awful David. You invited me on your show just to make fun of me."
@bondalemecovillage6738
Жыл бұрын
On the money
@N8_R
Ай бұрын
Im glad Im not the only only who sees it.
@PBGuacamole
Ай бұрын
could this have been his preparing for that?
A masterpiece of awkwardness. The best lettermans interview
@katnip526
Жыл бұрын
Dave’s birthday Drew Barrymore 🤫
@trumphatesyou
Жыл бұрын
@Man of Tomorrow It was but the interview was real. Casey used the footage in the movie.
@MrRogers1219
Ай бұрын
Lettermans? This sentence is a masterpiece of poor grammar and punctuation.
"it's just a little joke." "comedy is subjective, Dave."
Letterman did such a great job with this. He didn't know Joaquin was gonna pull this stunt but just rolled with it and turned it into something great.
@Necho-hp6qh
7 ай бұрын
He actually did, I believe he said it in a podcast no? But even then, he played it really well
@stemdog
2 ай бұрын
He said on Howerd Stern he knew ahead of time
@stellarwind1946
Ай бұрын
@@stemdogwhich contradicts what he said in 2010 on Joaquin’s return appearance when he denied any involvement.
@fateriddle14
6 күн бұрын
@@stellarwind1946 He was not involved, he just knew
@gamlisten
5 күн бұрын
Dave is a disgusting person
So amazing how he doesn't break character, there are a couple points that you can tell he's really working hard to hold back laughter, hilarious
@photofinish8607
Жыл бұрын
No, naturally Dave is not funny. I didn’t laugh.
@jmac79ers
Жыл бұрын
@@photofinish8607 I was referring to that hairy fellow, not Dave. It would have been really hard to stay in that character, not laughing at oneself
@genericusername555
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant actor. As good as Heath.
@scottbradford4130
Жыл бұрын
Lol he almost lost it at the Unabomber joke
@jmac79ers
Жыл бұрын
@@scottbradford4130 yeah man, love it!
Dave got him to break with the Unabomber comment.
@ceeaitch11
Жыл бұрын
That was a part of it. He’s making it realistic. If he has a complete straight face 100%, it would be unbelievable
@Ror0009
Ай бұрын
@@ceeaitch11so you think it was a fake laugh?
SUCH an incredible interview. Getting strong modern day Kaufman vibes. Completely fell for it when it first came out, still so brilliant looking back on it now. The restraint it took not to burst out laughing from Joaquin is God tier.
@CrescendoJagatai
4 ай бұрын
Its dumb and edgy and disingenuous and you people eat it up
@Adamo2JZ
3 ай бұрын
Dave was actually hilarious too
@adamcunningham2511
3 ай бұрын
He totally stole this of kaufman
@idlyblare
2 ай бұрын
@@adamcunningham2511it’s hardly stealing anything lol. It’s just method acting
@sgt.thundercok4704
2 ай бұрын
Most people are pretty thick and easily fooled so you're not alone.
I remember watching this live. It was truly surreal
Only someone as talented as Joaquin Phoenix could pull this off. Here we are years later still talking about it. It turned out he was mocking Hollywood but at the time people were convinced that he lost his mind, brilliant, lol!
@macgeek21
2 жыл бұрын
uh good cover story
@ccoolstuff1
2 жыл бұрын
And David was hysterical too
@chosengod5943
Жыл бұрын
David Letterman is a genius.
@markl455
Жыл бұрын
My god! He’s out of his head. And good for him
@awalktowardsglory
Жыл бұрын
How was he mocking Hollywood, I don’t get it.
Very entertaining interview. I remembered when this first aired, I was convinced JP was gone off the deep end. Looking back now I can see it was just another of his great performances. He did kind of break character at the end when Dave made him laugh for real. Both are amazing talents.
@goatcheese4me
2 жыл бұрын
you see him at 1:16 straining to hold back a grin, then he cracks at the unibomber joke.
@TheEeshan
Жыл бұрын
@@goatcheese4me nice catch!
@cxoolio
Жыл бұрын
He breaks multiple times but you can see him quickly look down and reign himself in
@ronmackinnon9374
Жыл бұрын
@@cxoolio *rein
@TheAgentAssassin
Жыл бұрын
Dude read the comments, people are still falling for it.
This is an absolutely legendary late night segment.
I love what he's doing. He's challenging everyone in the roles they're playing. Dave, himself, the audience. Dave looks spooked, like he has no idea what to do. He's trying to get everyone to see how silly they are. He's supposed to play the Funny Celebrity with jokes and a story. Dave is supposed to ask basic questions, compliment. I love how Joaquin made him remember and say Gweneth Palytrow's name. (No idea how to spell) Very Brilliant guy
@dentedilupo81
5 ай бұрын
he's an idiot.
@_TheDarkHalf
4 ай бұрын
Hmm..Thats a lot. You know he's quite literally staying in role for the ''biographical'' satire movie he was about to release?? About his forthcoming ''rap career''???
@davimelo9181
4 ай бұрын
Gwyneth. You almost had it
@purpleabyss2587
4 ай бұрын
@@davimelo9181 ☝🤓
@d_geekd
4 ай бұрын
Alot of times they talk about the bit or what questions they'll ask beforehand, the host and the guest
For me, the most brilliant moment is when Joaquin looks out at the audience laughing at him at 1:27 then lowers his head and breathes an audible sigh. That is sensational acting. It is why people thinking that he was losing it was so plausible at that time.
@KCJbomberFTW
Жыл бұрын
You know maybe he just lied about faking it?
@jackman1321
Жыл бұрын
No! the most "Sensational acting" is having most of this KZread comment section believe this was "acting" and praising a guy who was completely mentally unstable and depressed at the time... It's amazing how all the 🐑 line up to commend this "Sensational actor" for this "brilliant performance" he put on and put him up on a pedestal. Nothing brilliant about a socially awkward and depressed stage of your life. Hollywood breaks a lot of people! it's tough living under the spotlight and celebrities become addicts, mentally unwell, & filled with anxiety and depression. I'm sure most of the GOONS in this comment section would covet Britney Spears for being a "sensational genius" if she told everyone that shaving her head, bashing out windows of cars, and being completely mentally unstable for over a decade was "just an act..." you're an actor or celeb and you do something embarrassing- Hey! just call it an act... 90% of this comment section is the reason an artist can smear a bunch of paint on a canvas in under 60 Seconds and they'll react as if it's "an ingenious masterpiece depicting over 10,000 different feelings and emotions in life.." Again the industry is tough, living under a spotlight in LA will break you down really quickly...
@dougreed736
Жыл бұрын
Why would he fake that? He did try rap music at that time and failed.
@j.c.s5630
Жыл бұрын
this is real he doesnt want to be there. the show is trivial and hes probably high on some sh** and paranoid thats why hes wearing the glasses.
@jvjjjvvv9157
Жыл бұрын
I don't think it seems very plausible, you can even see both of them making pauses for greater comedic effect when the audience is laughing, specially early on in the video. I am of course no expert on mental health, but in some parts of the video I don't think this really looks like a guy who doesn't want to be there. It looks like a guy who wants other people to laugh at him looking awkward. A person who just wants that interview to be over as soon as possible would just look disinterested or maybe insincerely engaged, rather than a sudden let-me-go-put-on-my-Robinson-Crusoe-beard hermit
I can't help it; when I search my true impressions and what to make of him, have nothing but love and respect for this fellow Joaquin.
Joaquin aside, this is a masterclass in hosting from Dave Letterman. What a challenge he's faced with here, and where most would crumble under the awkwardness, Dave fully leaned in and resulted in one of the best talk show bits ever
@switchunboxing
Ай бұрын
All the talk shows are rehearsed
@gidds617
Ай бұрын
Na
@-WeThePeople-
Ай бұрын
Hop off his meat
This is really one of the best Letterman interviews ever.
"Well Joaquin I'm sorry you couldn't be here tonight." Man such a killer line. That's the kind of genius that makes him a legend not just in late night but in comedy as a whole.
@mcesarey
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant line from Dave
@TheAgentAssassin
Жыл бұрын
I agree but Dave was prepped for this by Phoenix that he was playing a daft character. They both were playing YOU. And here you are years later making this comment. I guess it worked. Congrats to Dave and Phoenix. YOUR comment is proof positive.
@BigBoss7777777
Жыл бұрын
@@TheAgentAssassin I bet you thought you were so clever when you wrote this comment. It was actually revealed that Dave did NOT know what was going on. Watch Joaquin’s next appearance on the show where he apologises for playing him for a fool.
@snap-off5383
Жыл бұрын
Dave was on fire that night and lit Joaquin up one right after another. "When you take time off, and it seems you're taking a bit of time off tonight. . ." PFFFT! busted me up.
@JohnnyNation
Жыл бұрын
Dave was a true Master of Improv !!!###
The whole thing was a gag done for a movie called I’m Still Here. Absolutely brilliant! He convinces the world that he has quit acting just to put on a giant act. He made the world his stage and everybody went for it. Talk about taking acting to the next level.
@johngalush8790
Жыл бұрын
Andy Kaufman already did it.
@madeincda
Жыл бұрын
@@johngalush8790 Man, his name went through my mind as I was checking for replies. You nailed it.
@_Chris_D_3004
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining to the 0% who didn't know that
@stephencarlsbad
Жыл бұрын
Its been done before. Look up Andy Kaufman. Total legend in this genre. The guy lived this way and went way out of bounds with the gig, well beyond just quitting acting. Joaquin got the idea from Andy, no doubt.
@ridingwithstymie5371
Жыл бұрын
Just like like when Ronald Reagan pretended to be a real politician and ACTUALLY GOT ELECTED. Lol! Several times! Many in Hollywood would kill for a role that lasts 16 years.
It's up there with some of the greatest interviews on Letterman. Love it when Paul Shaffer starts to laugh and Joaquin goes "are you serious?", and Paul just keeps on laughing🤣
@arr0gant1
9 ай бұрын
Andy Kaufman was still the best
I remember the night this aired, I went ahead on the guide and saw that Joaquin was going to be a guest on letterman. All I knew about him was from seeing him in Gladiator, so I was interested to tune in and see how he was as a person. I was not disappointed. I laughed my ass off!
Remember Andy Kaufman pulled similar great acts with Dave. Seriously, Dave loved this stuff. Joaquin is a gem.
@jasonfusaro2170
Жыл бұрын
Sticks his gum under Daves desk, great improv
@Broformist
25 күн бұрын
Andy Kauffman was way better at this stuff though. Phoenix seems more awkward than funny.
This was a shocking interview back then, most of ghe people actually believed that he’s gone insane he was even mocked at the oscars by Ben Stiller. But it was part of movie by Casey Affleck.
@drsoe08
Жыл бұрын
It just shows JP is trillion times better as an actor compared to Ben Stiller.
@alexgrime1880
Жыл бұрын
so was that movie casey directed a fiction mocumentary??
@alphadog3586
Жыл бұрын
@@alexgrime1880 yeah basically
@alphadog3586
Жыл бұрын
@@drsoe08 Ben Stiller was actually funny in his earlier movies
@thl205
Жыл бұрын
@@drsoe08 lol it’s just jokes, why are you taking things so personally on behalf of some celebrity?
He’s just such an amazing actor.
Mr. Phoenix does not just act his parts, he becomes them ! RESPECT !
@rexleeh
Жыл бұрын
That's called method acting. There's a TON of people that don't need to do that and they're better actors.
@MajicFreeman
Жыл бұрын
@@rexleeh shut up dude
@andrewsuplicki1236
Жыл бұрын
@@rexleehit’s not that deep bro
One of the best interviews ever.
One priceless moment in TV history.
He played the public on his fingers like a pro.THAT'S TALENT RIGHT THERE!!!
He really shows what we expect from TV from being completely normal. This is exactly like when Andy Kaufman was on.
@hitekx4065
7 ай бұрын
Hell yeah! This was very Andy Kaufman-esque!
Joaquin I'm sorry you couldn't be here tonight
@lex28lush10
2 жыл бұрын
And he said it after he cleared his throat and then said it ever so politely ..
Dave's timing is second to none.
I swear I come back to watch this every couple of weeks. Was soooo great.....
Loved this interview. Loved this Joaquin. Love the beard, loved what he did with the gum. The man is an actor, hands down.
Its cool how hes using the tension built up in him resisting to laugh in order to ad more angst to the characters persona
How do you watch Joker's climactic scene and not think back to this interview? Brilliance!
@markcarter1548
Жыл бұрын
truth!
@DodongoManoof
Жыл бұрын
*FART*
@RatedRcny
Жыл бұрын
@@DodongoManoof lmfaooo
@tyrikforsythe981
9 ай бұрын
This is called foreshadowing
This might be the best Letterman interview ever.
I fell for it 😄 and I was sitting there thinking how is this him....I assisted Joaquin with his dog he adopted from the Shelter I worked he was so sweet and I told him my Dad had voted for him (Dad is an Academy member) he was so grateful.....I told Joaquin he's an amazing actor and deserves to win. Well he proved my point here for sure 😄👍
@ul-rike1962
Жыл бұрын
How's the dog?
@icervot
Жыл бұрын
why does he speak like the joker?
@user-ks3mk9kq4l
Жыл бұрын
That's a great story, thanks for sharing!
@marie60790
Жыл бұрын
I think he's got to be a method actor.
@TELEVISIONARCHIVES
Жыл бұрын
Well, this doesn't show it but when this was originally broadcast he broke character at the end of it and stood up and removed his glasses, and thanked David for playing along with it. The Director that was filming this bit for the movie wasn't happy with him (Ben Affleck).
I feel like after this interview he came up with the idea for the climax of Joker
@cdot2586
Жыл бұрын
i concur
Props to letterman for carrying the whole interview 🤣🤣🤣
@derrickdiggs8612
Жыл бұрын
His back must have hurt afterwards.
@93Jubilee
6 ай бұрын
yeah, he was put in a terrible situation as a host here.
Watching this "down the road" after watching it live, I hope Joaq appreciates this moment in time. Thanks guys.
Simply amazing, that's Oscar-worthy performance. Phoenix is pure talent!
Joaquin WILL go down as a legend, truely a talented mind, and gifted soul.
Considering Dave's mighty beard he is sporting now, seems like a legit beard question.
Dave’s facial expressions gets me every time 😂
That smile at the end punchline. Perfect moment 🎉
That was a superb segment by both performers. Very entertaining.
@alialshehhri2978
11 ай бұрын
It was real
Paul's laugh at 6:42 is priceless and so authentic. You could tell he was thinking "set up the clip.....yeah good luck with that!"
@notsure1969
Жыл бұрын
It's a great laugh.
Sean Hayes brought me here. This interview is amazing. I love Dave’s ability to get little digs in when people are misbehaving.
Letterman was the King once Jonny retired and easy to see why. He was always my favorite, such a master at what he did. Great job Dave!
He almost cracked a smile, I never notice that until now. As we all know this was Joaquin pulling a rib. People actually thought he was being serious about this.
@penguinista
Жыл бұрын
A couple times. Dave surprised him. He passed them off well as a nervous reaction, but I believe it was acting because of the timing of the smiles.
Just an ICONIC interview
“We owe Farrah Fawcett and apology!” 😂😂. Another absolute classic line at the end of the interview
@rb.x
Жыл бұрын
I don’t get it. 🫤
@Calvin-ny1pj
4 ай бұрын
I guess he could have booked Phoenix or Farrah Fawcett that night but chose Phoenix
This is so well done. This quiet disinterested thing he does is hysterical.
This was so good.
While no one was as good with Bill Burr or Norm Macdonald as Conan, David Letterman was the only host who could interview guests like this.
@GregorioStyreco
Жыл бұрын
conan and lettermen are the mvps of our generation! they both are worldwide treasures. ❤
@user-gg3nm4xm6r
Жыл бұрын
charles grodin
Love how the unabomber line nearly cracked him.
Dave was so quick witted here.I miss his show.
I don't think I was mature enough to understand what was going on here, the first time I saw the interview. I love it, now!
@sethbriars2042
Жыл бұрын
Can you tell me what’s going on? He’s just acting normal? So he’s not acting which is an act itself?
@NotDuncan
Жыл бұрын
@@sethbriars2042 well, for one he’s not giving Letterman anything to work with and doing his best to hide any reactions.
"Inviting me on the show... You just wanted to laugh at me"
Just an all time classic late night moment.
Looking at this interview... It's mind-blowing, can't help to compare this to his Joker scene with De Niro!! What a tremendous actor
7:40 One of Letterman's all-time burns.
@samuellp1146
2 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@stellarwind1946
Жыл бұрын
It looked like for a second Joaquin may have thought Dave blew his cover with that remark.
An example of Daves tremendous comedic skills. He was not in on the joke but really gives it to Joaquin. One of his best interviews.
@siftwram
Жыл бұрын
He literally said on Stern that he was in on it lol
@willperza2080
Жыл бұрын
He literally was in on it.
@stellarwind1946
Жыл бұрын
@@siftwram Phoenix has repeatedly denied that Letterman was directly involved, but has also insinuated that Dave always knows what’s going on behind the scenes and was likely tipped off by his producers beforehand.
@jameshudson169
Жыл бұрын
dave didn't have tremendous comedic skills so much as a wheelhouse. it was right in dave's wheelhouse.
@ronmackinnon9374
Жыл бұрын
@@jameshudson169 He certainly had experience with strange guests before. I remember when Nastassija Kinski was on in the '80s.
It's so funny that the audience is laughing unprompted all the time. Joaquin nailed it. :)
Classic performance by both of them. My husband and I died laughing!!
the unibomber joke cracked him lol
I never get tired of this Dave is a classic.
Great interview Refreshing
This remastered videos image quality is amazing.
Absolute classic one of the funniest interviews ever. We need Letterman to come back but this time Joaquin interviews Letterman and asks what’s going on with the beard Dave?
@Prakashed
Жыл бұрын
Letterman is dead Derek (Insert JP face here)
@whited63
Жыл бұрын
@@Prakashed uhhm, no he ain’t. Where did you get that idea?
@gregj6648
Жыл бұрын
yeah but what you don't get is that this isn't really an act ... it's an awesome display of how Letterman made the best of it, but this should be put in a time capsule on the precursors of when mankind changed on how artists were perceived. Interviews, public persona, and now IG and online social presence are the primary job. Being an actual artist now is obviously now a far distant secondary ... this interview will be even more relevant in a few years when everything really is just completely fake and all real artists are all just forgotten homeless people.
Dave could have said the word Fart and the whole audience would fall out of their chairs. They truly were on something that night.
This shines a light on the genius that is David Letterman IMO. Tough fkn spot man!
This still remains the greatest unintended comedic sketches of recent times..'cuticle mishap' and 'I'm sure something fun happened' were the hidden gems
@RobVespa
10 ай бұрын
...but it isn't.
@Zombie-lx3sh
7 ай бұрын
There was nothing unintended about it. Just good acting.
@Jordan-tu4ki
6 ай бұрын
That's infected
Dave was on fire with his wit
One of my favourite actors. First saw him in 8MM with Nicolas Cage. He was an Absolutely class bad guy in Gladiator also.
@pkrook71
Жыл бұрын
“Parenthood” back in 1989-1990 was the first time I saw Joaquin. Just a kid back then, but with undeniable talent. Unbelievable cast btw, especially for a comedy.
I admit I fell for this too first a long time what a testament to the skill and acting of these two.
This whole bit never would have worked this magnificently with any other talk show host.
Gotta admit, they really got me with this one when it first aired. I though Joaquin had cracked.
Hats off to Letterman on so many levels here. The joke at the very end: "Joaquin, I am sorry you couldn't be here tonight" (7:39) is pure genius of improvisation.
@maxdanger2402
Ай бұрын
Nah Dave's just a moron.
Dave handles this so amazingly well ..
Really couldn’t tell if he was acting or not till he started laughing at the end 😂
"Joaquin sorry you couldn't be here tonight"... CLASSIC DAVE, damn do we miss him on TV!
@tundradude4894
Жыл бұрын
“I think you’ve taken some time off tonight “🤣🤣🤣
I remember watching this interview in 2009, thinking, Joaquin lost his fucking mind. Didn't know it was all an act.
@skankytrick
Жыл бұрын
I literally felt the same exact way.
Everyone’s applauding this as the best interview ever. Im bored to tears. What makes it good?
This is how legends are born.
"What do you gas 'em up with?" had me rolling. Great interview!
@markoportuondo7375
Жыл бұрын
Sameeee!!! 🤣
Dave showed real experience here.
Fast forward a decade, or, so, and, Phoenix KILLS IT in The Joker, and, gives an AMAZING ACCEPTANCE SPEECH at the Oscars!
This should go down as Joaquin's finest performance ever
@GangIrish
Жыл бұрын
the joker
“…I think you’re taking a little time off tonight…”
@lex28lush10
2 жыл бұрын
And he wouldn't care less what everyone else think ... seemed like he's in the world of his own existence... .in his own mind
He grabs his gum back from the table 😂😂
1:06. I like how he said Thank You and everyone laughed 😂😂
Joaquin and Dave pulled it off brilliantly, people are still falling for it today 😂
@jiffjiffernson7292
2 жыл бұрын
7:38 the tell
@artimp152
Жыл бұрын
Was Dave in on it?
@DaneOrschlovsky
Жыл бұрын
@@artimp152 Nooooo way, absolutely not!
@8LUNACHICK8
Жыл бұрын
David Letterman is a tool & I mean that in the most literal sense. He's a "used platform", a "puppet with a stage" that's utilized in stuff ppl don't want to hear about.
@artimp152
Жыл бұрын
@@8LUNACHICK8 so you dislike Dave a little bit?
Dave’s genius stares us right in the face on this one!! I love this channel
@ronmackinnon9374
Жыл бұрын
'You know what? Let's look at it and we'll talk about it later, okay?' 😁
@DodongoManoof
Жыл бұрын
*fart*
Can imagine the conversation these two had in the dressing room before this 😆
"sorry you couldn't be here tonight" at the end broke him. Blindsided
Actually tremendous interview. Loving it