listening for the first time a pakistani professor .delighted to hear open discussion based on historical facts unbiased

@Makrania

3 жыл бұрын

Dear Sir, in which city do you live?

@AllamaMashriqiVirtualMuseum

2 жыл бұрын

Author #NasimYousaf has changed the course of history. Dr. Asarulislam Syed, Tarek Fateh, Prof. Pervez Hoodbhoy and Prof. Ishtiaq Ahmed and others are reflecting his ideas about Jinnah and the partition of India. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZZNlwceDh7KonZM.html

Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed is a unbiased Historian. Best discussion based on true historical facts & factual incidents. Ishtiaq Sir's research based history is true.

I am a new but big fan of Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed Pranaam 🙏🙏 to you Doctor Saab for telling us truth about Very few people tell the truth of what happened at time of India & pakistan partition and at times when pakistan imposed war on India for Kashmir

Just wanted to provide one more addition. After the 1946 Calcutta Killings, the Noakhali Riots happened and then after that the Bihar Riots began. In the end after all the partition violence, millions died.

Finished all Four parts. Prof. Ahmed is undoubtedly Exceptional in his grasp and presentation of history of pre and post-Pakistan and Jinnah. A Must for any serious student in this area. Abbas Haider also proved himself how effectively he can dig out crux of the research and thinking from his guest. He is a young journalist but all hallmark to prove himself even more enduring and sublime in the future. Good luck!

Can't wait hear the next part. Ishtisq saheb is so meticulous scholar, unbiased. Extremely refreshing to hear him and read him.

Amazing interview. Nice work done Mr. Abbas Haidar

Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed is the most unbiased Pakistani l have ever heard.

Dr. Ishtiyaq ahmed , your analysis is impeccable...🙏🙏

True Hindu's not hate other Religions and their place of worship. True Hindu's respect Allah, Jesus, Gautam Buddha, Shiv and others.

Very clear views. This video series should be spread to general masses.

Great Interviewer. Raised important and critical questions. I hardly have words for Prof. Ishtiaq Ahmed. His command on the subcontinent history, linking dots in logical sequences, forthrightness and making senses have changed my understanding of key figures and facts of the subcontinent history. I have to watch the rest of this series. Will try to get Prof. Ahmed magnum opus book on Jinnah.

@appleoranges9772

2 жыл бұрын

@@AbbasHaidar It is interesting history - A *Cabinet Mission came to India in 1946 in order to discuss the transfer of power from the British government to the Indian political leadership, with the aim of preserving India's unity* and granting its independence - it was a *joint India proposal* of Britain (although before 1947, India was already divided into multiple independent princely states as each state had its own currency, military and independent governmental system) joint India proposal that was offered when Nehru on behalf of Gandhi Jee rejected the prime offer proposed to Indian leadership. *That Mr. Jinnah accepted with exception to ensure minority rights in specific state* As Nehru jee wanted to eat the whole pie, Cabinet Mission prime offer was rejected along with the lame excuses. -- Question is who refused that prime offer of Joint India initially that Britain offered ?? -- Picture is very much clear now 1- Pakistan still part of Communist China and ready to give access to them so called "warm water" theory 2- The fact is till 1947 India was not "Joint India" in true sense -- already divided into multiple independent princely states -- it was not one nation before 1947 3- btw, *now socialist or leftist India is in the hands of Capitalist, not Socialist - Ready to fight on behalf of Capitalist and Imperialist US and UK against the interest of Communist Russia and Communist China*

@appleoranges9772

2 жыл бұрын

@@AbbasHaidar Dr. Ishtiaq has given twist to history in his own way -- and few places he has quoted wrong facts with wrong data -- I hope he will give justification to his audience who blindly taking words from him

I wish everyone must listen to this.

Salam , love and respect from new Delhi ❤️🇮🇳

@vishalpandey1268

2 жыл бұрын

Certainly

I mean no offence to any person who considers himself a muslim and India, an enemy but I am still hoping for unity of India-Pakistan-Bangladesh. That's because I see you as our own and not an enemy. Because I don't see you as other, I also don't see agreements of Partition (British legacy) as valid agreement.

@nitishsaxena1372

3 жыл бұрын

As long as the religious chauvinism runs in these countries, the reunion would be impractical.

@RK-nv3qu

3 жыл бұрын

Keep hoping ,it will never happen

@prashantkatti118

3 жыл бұрын

@Yusra Ali and the so called pakistanis never deserved pakistan. Because they never fought against the british rule for idependence7

@prashantkatti118

3 жыл бұрын

@Yusra Ali he got pakistan after licking british governors boots. He never challenged the british rule neither participated in any anti british activities nor went to jail.

@prashantkatti118

3 жыл бұрын

Actually jinnah was the british agent in india and he got his prize after his work we as done.

A good discussion worth my time. Thanks to you both.

Very exhaustive stream of discussion.

Superb and simple analysis. Such a privilege and eye opener. Please make it loud and clear to the whole of Pakistan

ډیره خه شو ده

اللہ تعالی کفار سے بھی اسلام اور مسلمانوں کے حق میں کام لے لیتا ھے۔ اللہ تعالی برائی سے اچھائی نکال لیتے ھیں فرعون کے گھر موسی علیہ السلام ۔ پاکستان بنانے میں چاھیے انگریزوں نے اپنے مفاد کا سوچا ھو لیکن اللہ تعالی اس میں سے مسلمانوں کو فائدھ پہنچانا چاھتے تھے

@FahidGfwl

3 жыл бұрын

Bahi ya to ap na video dakhi nahi yah phir apko samaj nahi aya k kaya kah raha han

RSS‌‍RSS population is just two-three percent. We Indians have no interest in religion. We believe in unity in diversity. We love Muslims or people of other religions.

@mayankindian3750

2 жыл бұрын

Sahi kha no religion no problem 💪👌🥰♥️❤️

@user-yn8gm3fb1t

2 жыл бұрын

Oo bewkoof rss kay baray main paad zara , Pakistanio nay apna hee chutiyapa feelaya hua h rss kay baray main

@Bhartpostindepost

2 жыл бұрын

RSS is a terrorist organization like Pakistan Army is a factory of state sponsor terrorism.

Hindu Congress claims to be secular but uses Hinduism everywhere. So, if some Muslim leaders give the slogan of Islam, it is not a bad thing. This policy is on a reciprocal basis.

I have subscribed your channel..keep up the good work

@arvinderkang6596

3 жыл бұрын

@@AbbasHaidar yes ofcourse I will

Well said....no body died for Pakistan but a lot died because of Pakistan.

behatreen discussion. both are the best.

Maulana Azad was first Education Minister of India. Entire Mughal Era History, British History and History of Independence taught in school level syllabus in India.

well done!! dear . brought the correct interpretation

Big salute to dr.sahab

Kia Baat hai 👍

Congratulations abbas for a wonderful session

ThANKS. FOR THIS VIDEO.

Nice interview ।।

Subscribed all ready even seen after title...

Tremendous class

Hindu and Muslim was together before 1934 ,who divided them n for what purpose?

Fantastic and illuminating. It is better that both the countries live in peace.

There are few such erudite intellectuals,historians and thinkers whi can speak his mind ,based on facts and justice.Kudos to him and his likes. No two people can perenially fight one another. Ultimately people want to live in peace and harmony, which is only very natural

@prashant1954

3 жыл бұрын

Dear Abbas Haider Bhai Your videos are very good and made with lot or research .They are balanced ,free from bias and authentic.In fact I have many Indian friends,whom I have motivated,to be your regular subscribers Keep up the good work.God bless your entire team.

Behtreen, .....very very helpful....

@mmajeed2403

3 жыл бұрын

Please historian Mubarak sb

@mmajeed2403

3 жыл бұрын

Interview

Excellent scholar

Brilliant interview thank you Abbas Haider and Professor Ishtiaq Ahmed 👍👍👍

@mulhidal-eslam

2 жыл бұрын

@@AbbasHaidar kush raho maray bhai ❤

Dear Abbas thank you so much for improving my understanding

@nasirzaidifromhyderabad8157

2 жыл бұрын

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Abbas you are very delighting and most modern journalist of Pakistan. In fact i was looking for someone like you in Pakistan. Can't believe a straight forward journalist in Pakistan. Have desire to meet you in Lahore if you are from lahore.

@zohaibhasan3332

3 жыл бұрын

@@AbbasHaidar sure why not.. 03445237698 my WhatsApp please send me your mobile. Thanks

Abbas Haider ji along with Dr. Ishtique Ahmed, keep up good work ...

Great discourse

Sir After a long time I have seen a liberal and honest Muslim scholar . Who talks sense and is thoughtful

MrAbbas Haldar from where in Indit can get book on JINA written by Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed and price

bro doing great...you seems very organized and articulate but not complex as most journalist these days are. Good luck for your future endeavour. An Indian.

Have seen BBC hard talk . this interview should have been challenging considering his ideas ..but its like learning from him .

Nice interview love from india❤️❤️❤️

Kindly correct at 7:25 Rudyard Kipling got Nobel award in 1907 not in 1911. Thank you 😊

Dr Ishtiak is always a wonderful gentleman. Great interview Abbas. Keep it up. Regards.

@shiwajiraopatil4600

2 жыл бұрын

Yes dear, I will do whatever is possible to motivate you.Thnks

Very informed

Sirs,there were 3 creators of Pakistan. 1. British Crown.interested in retaining a foothold in indian subcontinent.With their experience of administering india for almost 200 years they were aware that Pakistan as a budding nation will require western help. 2. Indian muslims. Who with the trauma of defeat after 1200 years and being overwhelmingly outnumbered by hindus had an existential problem. 3.Hindus.whose basic reaction was good riddance notwithstanding the political posturing.

Prof ishtiyaque is one of the best historians in the indian subcontinent

Nice video

"Live honi chahiye na?*....this line sums up his honesty..28.24

Do I get some kind of contacts to this great gentleman,dr ishtiaq khan.pls.

@ritumalik1498

3 жыл бұрын

Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed not khan

It is in everyone's interest that India and Pakistan live peacefully. We Indians do not want to take any Pakistani Territory, but Pakistan has always eyed Indian Territories. Pakistani map promulgated recently is a proof of it.

Antidote of state narrative. Must watch for students of political science and history and also for the general public. The anchor has great grip over the subject and moderating meticulously.

Sir when will your book ''Jinnah'' come in the market?

@arvinderkang6596

3 жыл бұрын

It's already in buy it from Amazon

Mr Abbas is very good journalist and Dr Ishtiaq the best Historian.

Ekdam 100% correct on india and Pakistan.

Jinnah's two Nation theory was unvisionary. Lakhs of people killed and displaced because of Jinnah & Muslim league demand of partition. Congress always opposed two nation theory and partition of India.

@SR-kx5pw

2 жыл бұрын

I listened a lot about india Pakistan two nation theory by Pakistani speakers but still I’m in favour of two nation theory, when I see what India does inhumanity in Indian Occupied Kashmir also my Indian Sikh friend has dragged my attention about Modi’s attitude towards Sikh and how many Sikh people died.

@rananofal5343

Жыл бұрын

Yeah killing was happened not only Hindus killed by Muslims but also Muslims by Hindus, that's the other problem. But, two nations theory was right Muslims and Hindus can not live peacefully for long time because congress and different Hindus activities had created so much hate in Muslims for Hindus and also the worry about out future. There are allot of proof of Hindus activities that creat hate but couldn't mention because reply will become too long

Well Done Abbas ! Keep it up

Please also see dr.Ishtiaq's inter view with Aftab Iqbal in wich he tells about partition and killing started by x british army soldier.

After listening to discussion Im quite impressed there are sane people esp Muslims which i didnot expect.

@MukeshVarma9198

3 жыл бұрын

Ye banda Sweden me padhata hai esliye bol pa raha hai. Agar Lahore ya Peshawar University me padhata to ye bat nahi bolta.

Dr Ahmed , because you tell the truth without being bias for any one so Sir I have a small question about time of partition on both sides Is it true that the trains full of behead dead bodies were sending by both the India & pak or it was only started by one and then other was doing same in revenge Who was instigating who Please send me reply if you know about this?

May I suggest adding captions to your videos? I have created captions for this video in English so that non-native speakers can also understand what is being discussed. I have uploaded subtitles here txt.do/1fnan, so a wider audience can be enlightened a bit about our history and issues. You can alter the subtitles if you see any problem and then upload it.

@anonymos7236

3 жыл бұрын

@@AbbasHaidar I am supposed to be thankful for what you and others like Ishtiaq Saab are doing for our nations. Hopefully we will see the change we need soon enough. Thanks for your work.

Jinnah has blood of 10 million people in his hands.

Mr Abbas saying that he likes to talk about injustices against muslims but matter of fact is most brutal injustice in history against muslims conducted by another group of Muslim which is none other then our loving ' Pakistan ' do you understand Mr Abbas....that is 1971...east Pakistan genocide...from March 25,1971 till December 15 our army ( Pakistani ) killed millions of bengoli innocent civilians...

A lot of thanks to the scholars of the programme .

We ( myself Victoria Miroshnik and Dipak Basu) have analyzed this issue in our book, India as an organization, published by Palgrave-Macmillan. The thesis of Ayesha Jalal was wrong. Jinnah was recruited by the British in 1934 to create a new state where the British Army could stay to protect the Middle East from the Soviet Union and the sea route between the Suez Canal and Australia. NS Sarila, who was the ADC for the last three Vice-Roys of India, wrote that in his book. There are two others who were recruited by the British: Gandhi in 1915 and Ambedkar in 1930. British supported the Muslim League wholeheartedly from the beginning in 1906. In every riot, British police took the position to support the Muslims. That was obvious in August 1946 in Calcutta, then in Noakhali, and Chittagong in East Bengal. Pakistan was created by the British and Jinnah, Gandhi, Ambedkar were the British agents. Gandhi planned Pakistan in 1943. He sent his plan to Jinnah through Rajagopalachari, but Jinnah wanted a corridor through India which Gandhi could not agree with.

@VB-zj9cu

3 жыл бұрын

Agree on most of the points. As for Gandhi andvAmbedkar being British agents, I Have to research more.

I know dr.Ishtiaq very well Last time I met him at the anivarsery of major Ishaq.Lahore.kisan mazdore party.

Mr Abbas such discussions are nice to know and Pakistanis to know that they have been taught wring history. But point is what next for Pakistan. Good or bad, Pakistan needs to move forward. How will that happen is the key thing.

Khumaini, ap khush ahain

Good discussion people like you should be in Pakistani politics for better future of India and Pakistan

Among the largest incidents were Great Calcutta killings in 1946, Bihar and Garmukhteshwar in 1946 after Noakhali riot in East Bengal, the massacre of Muslims in Jammu in 1947, large-scale killing of Muslims following the Operation Polo in Hyderabad, anti-Muslim riots in Kolkata in the aftermath of 1950 Barisal Riots ...

خوب

Abbas sir mara ap ek sawal hai

Dr Istiaq Armed 🎉❤

In Round Table Conference, Sir Zafrullah Khan said that if an Indian soldier can sacrifice his life for the protection of British Empire, he can sacrifice his life for his own country India, within the Commonwealth or without the Commonwealth. At that time Ghandi and Nehru were in Jail listening Zafrullah Khan's speech on radio. They admitted to that what they could not say in India, how dare Zafrullah Khan said in London. At this the British Govt agreed to give freedom to India, for which All Indians should be thankful.

At 9:50 , who were kicked out by Americans? The Russians or The British Empire?

@agicentappcompany

3 жыл бұрын

British empire got taken over by Americans

It is interesting history - A *Cabinet Mission came to India in 1946 in order to discuss the transfer of power from the British government to the Indian political leadership, with the aim of preserving India's unity* and granting its independence - it was a *joint India proposal* of Britain (although before 1947, India was already divided into multiple independent princely states as each state had its own currency, military and independent governmental system) joint India proposal that was offered when Nehru on behalf of Gandhi Jee rejected the prime offer proposed to Indian leadership. *That Mr. Jinnah accepted with exception to ensure minority rights in specific state* As Nehru jee wanted to eat the whole pie, Cabinet Mission prime offer was rejected along with the lame excuses. -- Question is who refused that prime offer of Joint India initially that Britain offered ?? -- Picture is very much clear now 1- Pakistan still part of Communist China and ready to give access to them so called "warm water" theory 2- The fact is till 1947 India was not "Joint India" in true sense -- already divided into multiple independent princely states -- it was not one nation before 1947 3- btw, *now socialist or leftist India is in the hands of Capitalist, not Socialist - Ready to fight on behalf of Capitalist and Imperialist US and UK against the interest of Communist Russia and Communist China*

I salute you from my heart.pl have some light on then provincial govt of punjab.

Abbas I would like to see more people's of u r like.

@46.sritibarui58

2 жыл бұрын

@@AbbasHaidar Abbas were u r ancestors muhajir.

My grandpa😘😘😘

@mshahrukhsuleman5709

3 жыл бұрын

@@AbbasHaidar subscribed dear ..

A person like you deceived the freedom cause of Kashmir.

Power dictate division rule. divide is between power central

The most logical, the most realistic presentation, Ishtiaq Saheb.

Pakistan need to start everything from scratch, all over again from zero, instead of trying to compete with India or Bangladesh the gov of Pakistan need to focus on its own development

@AdnanKhan-yn6ic

3 жыл бұрын

Better if we focus on our own advantage instead of western. We should do business and better relationships with our neighbors. And make business with them. But we only go for wars and pro western policies this is not good for us.

Sir is my teacher when I was doing mphil from government college University.

@eye.in.thesky

3 жыл бұрын

I am a Ravian. I don't know him. But he had a bad reputation in Punjab University.

@aijazahmed2783

3 жыл бұрын

feel soory for you, i hope ALLAH reham karay appParr.

@abhishekdas7886

3 жыл бұрын

You are lucky bhaijaan, to have him as your teacher. We in our universities are lacking for such intellectual professors.

@abhishekdas7886

3 жыл бұрын

@@eye.in.thesky Well they will do that, there’s no surprise after all they are the Punjabis.

@atharali1027

3 жыл бұрын

@@eye.in.thesky yes .

Allama Mashriqi's grandson, Nasim Yousaf (author of many books and articles), was the first one to reveal hidden facts. 1) Hidden Facts Behind British India's Freedom: A Scholarly Look Into Allama Mashraqi and Quaid-E-Azam's Political Conflict (2007) 2) Mahatma Gandhi & My Grandfather, Allama Mashriqi: A Groundbreaking Narrative of India’s Partition (2013) Peer-reviewed article: a) "India’s Partition in the Face of Opposition: An Unveiled Perspective" by Scholar & Historian Nasim Yousaf Published by "Harvard Asia Quarterly" (Spring 2009, Vol XII, No. 2). b) Khaksar Movement Weekly “Al-Islah’s” Role Toward Freedom

@anonymos7236

3 жыл бұрын

I am on my way to become a reader, finally.........

@vishalpandey1268

2 жыл бұрын

Great lineage

great. Badda saliqa sa question put kiya

India was never one country. This was a subcontinent. Great Mughal made this one country.

As per deep study of history gory ny

Agreed what all said but we must give credit to the Muslim political leadership for making Pakistan.

The British created Pakistan. Yes. Now it is accepted as a well know fact. But since 1947 it is the Americans who have nurtured Pakistan, its army and the country. Without American aid, Pakistan would have ceased to be a military state, and would have gone into an economic mode for development. The billions of dollars that america has poured into Pakistan, mainly in the form of military aid,has created a military mood in the country. It is not exactly Marshall Plan. If tomorrow america stops military aid, remove its bases and insists on an economic path to recovery, Pakistan would be a different country. But america is not going to do that, its obsession with Afghanistan, Al Qaida, muslim radicalism etc etc, would mean more of the same.

Ishtiaq sahab se ek sabal he if he wants to answer, jo thoda hatke he fir bhi related he ki " What was the British policy to degrade Indian culture and education during british rule.

عباس... شاباش اتنے جراتمندانہ سوالوں کیلئے. اگلے حصے کا انتظار ہے

@writer.adeelrazzaq

3 жыл бұрын

@@AbbasHaidar already subscribed 👍

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