Jesy Nelson & Jojo Siwa: When A Debut Goes Wrong

the debut downer (coined by me) - A debut downer is the perfect storm of everything going wrong during your debut song or album.
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  • @bhaktiagarwal5859
    @bhaktiagarwal5859Ай бұрын

    I didn't know that Jesy released a second song lmao

  • @WhitneyReacts

    @WhitneyReacts

    Ай бұрын

    I didn’t even know she broke away from Little Mix… but I usually live under a rock when it comes to current pop culture

  • @Emerald_Forge

    @Emerald_Forge

    Ай бұрын

    Same i thought she unofficially retired 😭, I thought she'd transition to a influencer

  • @chiara8822

    @chiara8822

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Emerald_Forge I mean she keeps "teasing" songs on IG but never released any of them...

  • @eltonmiller8218

    @eltonmiller8218

    Ай бұрын

    It’s actually really good lmao

  • @Aeunax123

    @Aeunax123

    Ай бұрын

    Sis, I came here to say this exact thing lol

  • @KyeranNisbet
    @KyeranNisbetАй бұрын

    Jojo trying to convince everybody she's a "bad girl" now will never not be hilarious 😂

  • @justjoannak

    @justjoannak

    Ай бұрын

    This

  • @a.d.8827

    @a.d.8827

    Ай бұрын

    she did some bad things tho

  • @DrT0705

    @DrT0705

    Ай бұрын

    She should have never effed around 😂

  • @shizzlemywizzle1

    @shizzlemywizzle1

    Ай бұрын

    this joke is not pretty old and overdone at this point tbh even cringier than jojo’s behavior

  • @beingthisyoungisart13

    @beingthisyoungisart13

    Ай бұрын

    @@shizzlemywizzle1frrrrr

  • @WhoCaresAlisha
    @WhoCaresAlishaАй бұрын

    Wannbe "lightskin" era Jesy was so crazy. Her team saw the spray tan and the lace fronts and were like "Yeah, this will totally work." JoJo's rebranding was just bad production quality, styling, and marketing all around.

  • @yageshabazz3456

    @yageshabazz3456

    Ай бұрын

    Essentially both were hindered by questionable style choices

  • @jessycaone4276

    @jessycaone4276

    Ай бұрын

    After Justin and Miley ppl were officially DONE with the lightskin eras ☠

  • @Ibibiogal

    @Ibibiogal

    Ай бұрын

    I worked on the Jesy MV (it was a nightmare) heard of little mix but didn’t know what they looked like. I thought Jesy was mixed-race until the video and black-fishing stuff came out. I didn’t meet Diddy though they shot his scene like a month later in LA. Glad I didn’t meet Diddy.

  • @Whatdoradidntexplore006

    @Whatdoradidntexplore006

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@jessycaone4276and even tho i love ariana grande put her on that list too😂

  • @olapyza

    @olapyza

    Ай бұрын

    Shes white?!

  • @Ennaitak
    @EnnaitakАй бұрын

    Boyz could have been passable if it wasn't for Jesys controversy. "Bad thing" deserved a chance. Karma was going to be cringy either way just due to Jojos nature.

  • @adrianmikel

    @adrianmikel

    Ай бұрын

    I seen what Boyz was going for as it kinda gave a 2000s vibe and song but something in the song is missing. Now the black fishing she should’ve listen to her Leigh Anne about the black fishing and never allowed nicki to attack Leigh Anne. But with information I found out about her departure from Little mix, she was moving funny anyway.

  • @shanel4294

    @shanel4294

    Ай бұрын

    @@adrianmikelall of this👏🏽👏🏽

  • @Das644

    @Das644

    Ай бұрын

    @@adrianmikelboyz is a nice clubby song. It is a bop sonically. I personally feel like the whole black phishing controversy was just a bad played out case unfortunately having Leigh and jes fall prey to other’s actions. It ultimately turned from the central issue being “black phishing” to a Jes(bad) vs Leigh(good), Jesy never said anything about Leigh, she just chuckled when Nicki made remarks. And I personally feel like there was never gonna be a win in the situation for either. Jesy might have grown around black culture, but I agree she along the lines became insensitive/blind to what she was doing. Leigh even though pushed to front the rage, also has her own controversies surrounding race. Race is relatively, black in America is not the same in the uk, and in SA for example, so multiple pov all chimming in was bound to be a mess

  • @AbracadabraBipipityBopotyBOO

    @AbracadabraBipipityBopotyBOO

    Ай бұрын

    @Das644 I agree. I think the UK fans already had the well poisoned against Jesy from people like Mnek and other executives and the drop around Boyz was the perfect storm to ostracize her for leaving the group sort of like how they attempted to dump on Zayn when he left 1D. If we objectively look at Boyz and compare it to the Bad Boyz version frame for frame, it was clear what Jesy and her creative team were doing with the video. I personally look at Leigh-Anne sideways as well for trying to make that video into something it wasn’t with her note to fans after the video dropped and penning an open letter to Jesu as if she made all Black men in the video into “degenerates” when it was more white and mixed race men in the video than not. What’s more it’s hard to say Jesy is blackfishing for me as a Black woman when she has never claimed to be Black as others who black fish has or to be racially ambiguous. She’s also claimed herself as a white woman and to me Leigh-Anne used this incident much like the X Factor incident with her rival Black competitor as a “woe as me moment” to win sympathy for her own career.

  • @armywithluv55

    @armywithluv55

    Ай бұрын

    I feel like also jest shouldn't make her debut single a FEATURING omg

  • @gaby-leighjonathan2207
    @gaby-leighjonathan2207Ай бұрын

    Now I can't get Jesse Nelson's " JINGLE BELL BALL ARE YOU READY ?" Out of my head 😭😭

  • @flopera6117

    @flopera6117

    Ай бұрын

    The "NO WE'RE NOT" person in the crowd as well😭

  • @bellaelleira

    @bellaelleira

    Ай бұрын

    @@flopera6117 that person lives rent free in my mind lol the way I still think of it and chuckle at random af times 😭

  • @agoogleaccount5859

    @agoogleaccount5859

    Ай бұрын

    She will always be iconic 😍😍😍😍 people still talk about her to this day due to the JINGLE BELL BAWL and she even did a tiktok on the ‘ARE YA READAYAYYY’ meme she made an impact she still spoke about nearly three year after unlike the other three little mix members! This shows ‘honest’ is DISHONEST and wrong once again! ☕️

  • @dakotatoney

    @dakotatoney

    Ай бұрын

    @@agoogleaccount5859not really, the only reason ppl still talk about it because it’s a meme now. If she was genuine with her comeback ppl would have received it better. Instead of acting like she came from somewhere she wasn’t.

  • @agoogleaccount5859

    @agoogleaccount5859

    Ай бұрын

    @@dakotatoney it’s BEEN a meme for 3 years and people still talk about her and bring up her meme 😍😍 and they bring up her meme BALEGDE 8 years ago they talk about that still today! 😍😍 and Jesy specifically came back now teasing snippet cuz she knew ppl was talking about her cuz of summer time ball. Memes have made ppl more relevant such as Nicki Minaj , Sabrina carpenter , Miley Cyrus and even Jojo Siwa so it will work for JESY 😍😍

  • @a.d.8827
    @a.d.8827Ай бұрын

    chappell roan is the gay pop jojo siwa was talking about

  • @AdzaanMaiiTso

    @AdzaanMaiiTso

    Ай бұрын

    chappell roan is the gay pop we deserve. ♥️

  • @CinnamonGirl0716

    @CinnamonGirl0716

    Ай бұрын

    Its satisfying to believe JoJo's flop era launched Chapelle's career too like Brit Smith(in my opinion at least).

  • @Youtubeaccount50512

    @Youtubeaccount50512

    Ай бұрын

    @@CinnamonGirl0716how did she launched Chapelle’s career they are nothing alike

  • @sunfvalley

    @sunfvalley

    Ай бұрын

    chappell success have more connection with the game stardew valley ​@@CinnamonGirl0716

  • @LoveK1

    @LoveK1

    Ай бұрын

    @@KZreadaccount50512people just be talking.

  • @nessa007productions
    @nessa007productionsАй бұрын

    Perrie and Leigh-Anne each having over a million monthly listeners on Spotify for their solo work while Jesy only has 100k+ listeners, says a lot!

  • @hellohoneyfernishere7301

    @hellohoneyfernishere7301

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah but jest blows all three out of the water KZread wise and that’s prob cause jesy hasn’t released any new music in over a year and boyz alone still blows Leighanne’s and perries whole careers out of the water streams wise

  • @FOHaab

    @FOHaab

    Ай бұрын

    ​​@hellohoneyfernishere7301 KZread views don't fucking matter 😂 If no one is streaming your songs, your career won't last. KZread views are about gaining interest. Crazy how she can pull so many youtube views but those views aren't transferring literally anywhere else... almost like nobody cares about her music!

  • @Philipp19967

    @Philipp19967

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@hellohoneyfernishere7301 90% of those due to Nicki minaj being on it

  • @OfficialSunspot

    @OfficialSunspot

    Ай бұрын

    Flop off

  • @AlwaysLM2011

    @AlwaysLM2011

    Ай бұрын

    @@hellohoneyfernishere7301are you aware that boys has views because of Nicki and p. Diddy? Let’s not forget the drama added to it . Her second song didn’t even get a million views after a year? So there ya go

  • @sav715
    @sav715Ай бұрын

    i mean i feel like we cant forget that jojo’s debut was basically just to get attention away from the abuse her and her mom were being accused of and it worked

  • @northrnstar

    @northrnstar

    Ай бұрын

    highkey embarrassing how they tried to come up with the "lmao it was all intentional we were trolling" after karma took a nosedive out of the charts

  • @hotmamma2126

    @hotmamma2126

    26 күн бұрын

    It did the opposite. Everybody who looked into her flop would become aware of the child abuse. If the videos don't mention it, several comments absolutely will. There's a good reason child abuse isn't as easy to spread around like fun gossip

  • @chinchilla3050

    @chinchilla3050

    15 күн бұрын

    Sorry, what were they accused of? I never heard

  • @babybluejustice
    @babybluejusticeАй бұрын

    it's still hilarious how that nicki drama went down with jesy and then RIGHT AFTER, everyone forgot about her completely 😭

  • @agoogleaccount5859

    @agoogleaccount5859

    Ай бұрын

    How is everyone forgot about her everyone STILL talks about her? For example ur commenting under a video about Jesy 🤣💀 Jesy still is spoken about on Twitter and Tiktok. And every December and June she’s spoken about due to the JINGLE BELL BAWL festival meme 😍😍 she’s spoken about way more than the other little mix members that’s for sure and ppl still make videos about her like this video ☕️☕️

  • @TheEmbessyNetwork

    @TheEmbessyNetwork

    Ай бұрын

    Who?

  • @agoogleaccount5859

    @agoogleaccount5859

    Ай бұрын

    @@TheEmbessyNetwork this is literally what the video is about I think maybe this proves your really really slow lmao

  • @northrnstar

    @northrnstar

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@agoogleaccount5859what's the point of people still talking about her when all the talk is about how she's embarrassing herself with the blackfishing and overall nasty behavior? all that bad publicity and people still won't tune in for her new music 💀

  • @TheEmbessyNetwork

    @TheEmbessyNetwork

    Ай бұрын

    @@agoogleaccount5859 no baby girl, it's called a joke. You thought you were cooking there, but I'm a need you to turn off that stove please...

  • @mimia.4810
    @mimia.4810Ай бұрын

    It’s so sad how Jesy ruined her image with this terrible debut. Her other song is much better and should have been the image she led with. Moreover, the way she left the group was awful and messy. You don’t bash the group you came from because that’s where most of your fans will come from. For example, when Camila cabello left fifth Harmony, she was smart enough to always say nice things about the band and not piss off her audience. That’s why her debut was successful.

  • @nemhardjenkins2191

    @nemhardjenkins2191

    Ай бұрын

    Camila the same person that had to attends a racially healing therapy or camp ish 😂😂😂 ... what a good sport

  • @annoyingnope827

    @annoyingnope827

    Ай бұрын

    I feel like out of all 4 of them. Jesy had the biggest potential to be a star. She had a collab with Nicki and everyone was talking abt her jingle bell ball performance (even if it was for a bad reason). If jesy had release a follow up single right after the performance, she would’ve had a hit, and became a star

  • @AlwaysLM2011

    @AlwaysLM2011

    Ай бұрын

    @@annoyingnope827 jesy had the least potential solo

  • @annoyingnope827

    @annoyingnope827

    Ай бұрын

    @@AlwaysLM2011 that’s just a lie. So far jesy has had the most publicity out of all the girls

  • @Blast2224

    @Blast2224

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah but now nobody cares about Camilla Caboohy because they did that awful Cinderella and Qwuismoys. Gen Z is done with her 😂

  • @deadlynightshade4108
    @deadlynightshade4108Ай бұрын

    Jesy's jingle bell ball performance is iconic for all the wrong reasons LOL

  • @lucaria6164
    @lucaria6164Ай бұрын

    Didn’t know Jesy had a 2nd song, checked and it’s been a year and has not break 1mil views. I-💀

  • @veronicaaccouche1478

    @veronicaaccouche1478

    Ай бұрын

    Jesy Nelson's 2nd song 'Bad Thing' about her parent's abusive relationship made with a UK charity that looks after and advises abused people, Refuge UK kzread.info/dash/bejne/rH2gxtBrd9i6oc4.html

  • @Absy722
    @Absy722Ай бұрын

    Not the WWE Halloween costume 😂😂

  • @samaiyanickson269

    @samaiyanickson269

    Ай бұрын

    And the Kiss costume 😂😂

  • @nicolevo9261

    @nicolevo9261

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah and it looks like something from Party City

  • @coll4455
    @coll4455Ай бұрын

    Debut Downer is so accurate lol

  • @mrbigbosskojak
    @mrbigbosskojakАй бұрын

    I honestly think Jesy took the whole 'I'm hot, you're not' persona too seriously. We always saw her pouting and posing. I think she would be more likeable if she were to show her personality more.

  • @LP-ct9nk

    @LP-ct9nk

    29 күн бұрын

    That is her personality tho. After all those years it stops becoming an act and now a part of you

  • @kingderald
    @kingderaldАй бұрын

    Jessy thought that Nicki co sign was going to help

  • @amigos2841

    @amigos2841

    29 күн бұрын

    now with the aftermath of her beef with Megan Thee Stallion and Diddy being in the video has made it age terribly too lol

  • @toxiczombiewolf5692

    @toxiczombiewolf5692

    29 күн бұрын

    Not gonna look good working with a horrible person like nicki she lost touch and care for sa victims

  • @AG-fg1uk

    @AG-fg1uk

    27 күн бұрын

    ​@@toxiczombiewolf5692You are in every comment section dragging Nicki with insults. It's cringe

  • @AG-fg1uk

    @AG-fg1uk

    27 күн бұрын

    Nicki actually brought hype to the single because it was her 1st feature after a long hiatus, everyone was liking the song. Trouble started when her ex band mate brought up the blackfishing.

  • @amigos2841

    @amigos2841

    27 күн бұрын

    @@AG-fg1uk actually no, I'm come from UK and the press and people were already talking about it the black fishing before the band mates even said a word

  • @smr6141
    @smr6141Ай бұрын

    So, who else completely forgot about Jesy? ... 🤭

  • @adrianmikel

    @adrianmikel

    Ай бұрын

    I did too like I don’t follow her, blocked on Spotify and I haven’t listen to little mix music in while to think of her.

  • @smr6141

    @smr6141

    Ай бұрын

    @@adrianmikel the crazy part is I haven’t even forgotten about the other girls. I still have some of their songs in my playlists but I never think about Jesy when they play 💀

  • @adrianmikel

    @adrianmikel

    Ай бұрын

    @@smr6141 exactly

  • @yageshabazz3456

    @yageshabazz3456

    Ай бұрын

    🙋🏾‍♀️ she’s too generic to be memorable imo

  • @fizzypop6552

    @fizzypop6552

    Ай бұрын

    not me,I follow her

  • @Ric_Irv
    @Ric_IrvАй бұрын

    That solo Jessie era gave us so many good memes😭😭😭😭

  • @Elina.Clavelli
    @Elina.ClavelliАй бұрын

    Ok, but “Debut Downer” is honestly a genius term in many ways, including its play on words with “Debbie Downer” (which def also applies in these cases 😅)

  • @Kalex92
    @Kalex92Ай бұрын

    Let’s not forget jesy regarding the black fishing and the cultural appropriation.

  • @ionasmith1998

    @ionasmith1998

    Ай бұрын

    ⁠@AECONIChow did Perrie appropriate?

  • @Dance18sC

    @Dance18sC

    9 күн бұрын

    Shut up 🙄

  • @ponderer467
    @ponderer467Ай бұрын

    Perrie and Leigh have had a successful debut career!!

  • @elijahpillay5344
    @elijahpillay5344Ай бұрын

    the fact that jesys second single was so good

  • @Shakeitup2013
    @Shakeitup2013Ай бұрын

    Jesy Nelson was trying to hard to be something she wasn’t

  • @Janice.g1357

    @Janice.g1357

    Ай бұрын

    Tbh after watching her interviews and stuff she really does give the impression that this kind of music and style is the music she loves and always wanted to make. I think it felt authentic

  • @LuisGustavoSO

    @LuisGustavoSO

    Ай бұрын

    ​​@@Janice.g1357 she sang Bust Your Windows in her X Factor audition. That's definitely the kind of music she likes What troubled her debut was for sure the controversy surrounding her, Leigh-Anne and Nicki. The song is not great, but not awful either

  • @aaron18283

    @aaron18283

    Ай бұрын

    So was Ariana Grande during her africana granada era. I think Jesy took too long to leave her blackfishing era behind. I feel like she doubled down on it as a way to use “cancel culture” as a promotional tactic but it blew up on her face because she is no Kim Kardashian or Ariana Grande, people saw her as cringe and she ironically made the backlash against blackphishing more mainstream.

  • @Whatdoradidntexplore006

    @Whatdoradidntexplore006

    Ай бұрын

    👏

  • @AbracadabraBipipityBopotyBOO

    @AbracadabraBipipityBopotyBOO

    Ай бұрын

    @aaron18283 And that is why I know people were geared up to hate Jesy regardless of whatever song or image she bought to her solo career. Ariana Grande cosplayed as a Latinx and Black woman for YEARS and no one batted an eye at her black fishing and it didn’t stop her from winning awards and getting streamed. So, what was the reason they came for Jesy? She also has never said she was Black or mixed race either and only made an homage to the Bad Boys song that was frame for frame a reference to the original video.

  • Ай бұрын

    I wish Jesy’s second song “Bad Thing” was her debut single. It is so good and truly showcase her voice and talent.

  • @highro13
    @highro13Ай бұрын

    “A bad KISS impression” 😂😂😂😂

  • @gonda3435
    @gonda3435Ай бұрын

    lufabettabettaswee

  • @Alejaccx

    @Alejaccx

    Ай бұрын

    lmaaooooo

  • @preposteroussvideos

    @preposteroussvideos

    Ай бұрын

    LMAOOOOOOOOO

  • @armywithluv55

    @armywithluv55

    Ай бұрын

    Bein nais a lil borin wenyaBetuendishits 👅👅👅

  • @solaris5922

    @solaris5922

    Ай бұрын

    Shut up 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @blueroses4373

    @blueroses4373

    Ай бұрын

    Get out 😂😂

  • @6ixsavag3
    @6ixsavag3Ай бұрын

    She really does look like she’s wearing a wwe Halloween costume. 😂😂 great review!

  • @brandoncole5533
    @brandoncole5533Ай бұрын

    Bad things imo is a good song with a nice video but her messy debut just ruined it all. One thing i did hate tho was people telling her that she couldnt release a spng about domestic violence or that it felt cheap because people couldnt critique it? 1st off you can critique a song no matter what regardless of its subject matter Secondly, its disingenuous to criticize or shit talk a song because you dont like the person. Criticize the character not the work.

  • @cherryprincess5396
    @cherryprincess5396Ай бұрын

    Jesy threw her entire career to the trash just because she didnt want to stop cosplaying black women…

  • @marymiranda2687
    @marymiranda268729 күн бұрын

    I am a Little Mix OG fan and I didn't even know that Jesy put out a second single until I saw this video HAHAHA That's how you know that the LM fandom has completely disowned her.

  • @GRA5S
    @GRA5S22 күн бұрын

    It didn't help that Jesy's former girl group where all about woman empowerment and sisterhood then when she went solo she legit talked shit about her former group like they weren't her 3 bestfriends for the past decade. It left a bad taste in her fans' mouths. It drove away even her long time fans because her attitude seemed so hypocritical.

  • @shanel4294
    @shanel4294Ай бұрын

    Boys was a tribute to diddy? Didn’t know that

  • @kiiara222

    @kiiara222

    Ай бұрын

    It samples his track bad boy for life

  • @shanel4294

    @shanel4294

    Ай бұрын

    @@kiiara222 fair enough but loads of artists sample without actually paying respect to the original. Interestingggggggggg for sure

  • @tiffl4592

    @tiffl4592

    29 күн бұрын

    ​@@shanel4294 tribute may not be the proper word but it definitely pays homage, he's literally in the music video

  • @brandoncole5533

    @brandoncole5533

    29 күн бұрын

    How???

  • @shanel4294

    @shanel4294

    29 күн бұрын

    @@tiffl4592 yeahh whatever it is is very cool interesting and sus

  • @karishajohnson6537
    @karishajohnson6537Ай бұрын

    Love how they use Blackness both the color and race to “mature” and rebrand their image.

  • @Whatdoradidntexplore006

    @Whatdoradidntexplore006

    Ай бұрын

    😂 exactly like why

  • @LuisGustavoSO

    @LuisGustavoSO

    Ай бұрын

    Jesy didn't rebrand though. She had been tanning and filling her lips for years before leaving the group. The hate only came later, interestingly

  • @mariambah4583

    @mariambah4583

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@LuisGustavoSOI think it’s because she openly said that no one blamed her on it While she was deliberately lying

  • @amoreweasley5302

    @amoreweasley5302

    Ай бұрын

    @LuisGustavoSO She was called out by some fans before her departure. The general public didn’t talk about it because they didn’t know about her yet

  • @LuisGustavoSO

    @LuisGustavoSO

    Ай бұрын

    @@amoreweasley5302 "some fans" like... 3 of them? She was doing it since 2016 and people only commented, and very rarely, about it when the Sweet Melody video dropped. They only sent *hate* and labeled her racist after she left the group though

  • @AlwaysLM2011
    @AlwaysLM2011Ай бұрын

    Jesy was just so dramatic and it was so unnecessary. She was so messy and ruined her own career. I’m just gonna say it, so far Leigh Anne has had the best music and start of her career out of the girls. Perrie is ok I just think her music has been too generic and unauthentic. I didn’t think jesy would make it far even without the drama. Jade will debut in July and I have high hopes for her.

  • @akouna

    @akouna

    Ай бұрын

    i mean afaik it looks like all of them are doing good. still waiting for jade's debut though

  • @AlwaysLM2011

    @AlwaysLM2011

    Ай бұрын

    @@akouna jesy isn’t doing well let’s be real.

  • @MotoGPForever4527

    @MotoGPForever4527

    Ай бұрын

    Leigh's music has been crap so far, and Perrie's already outstreaming her

  • @AlwaysLM2011

    @AlwaysLM2011

    Ай бұрын

    @@MotoGPForever4527 learn your math because overall Leigh has more streams ? Some of her ep songs has more streams than her second single tears? Tears hasn’t even reached a million streams yet and it’s her second single ? Sorry but perrie isn’t living up to the hype but Leigh Anne is exceeding expectations. By the way Leigh Anne and perrie both have 1.6 monthly listeners despite Leigh Anne not doing promo or dropping a single. Perries should be way more since in your eyes she’s doing much better right?😂

  • @AlwaysLM2011

    @AlwaysLM2011

    Ай бұрын

    @AECONIC exactly…..she still didn’t get promo for it and still has amazing streams and the same monthly listeners as perrie who has been the one having her solo moment dropping two singles and doing promo. Take that how you will and leave at that.

  • @preposteroussvideos
    @preposteroussvideosАй бұрын

    JINGLE BELL BOW

  • @aa-pj4vz

    @aa-pj4vz

    Ай бұрын

    ARE YA READYYYYY

  • @Raggiefoul582

    @Raggiefoul582

    Ай бұрын

    NO WERE NOT❗️

  • @abubarrie88
    @abubarrie88Ай бұрын

    I liked Jesys debut song not gonna lie.

  • @Alejaccx

    @Alejaccx

    Ай бұрын

    You mean, Jesy? .... 😋

  • @abubarrie88

    @abubarrie88

    Ай бұрын

    @@Alejaccx yes thank you for catching that for me lol

  • @matthewray2570

    @matthewray2570

    Ай бұрын

    Its catchy ngl

  • @roboelectrooverlord6346
    @roboelectrooverlord6346Ай бұрын

    Jojo not serious she just trying to distract from the accusations of child abuse against he

  • @SkylarTheWriter
    @SkylarTheWriterАй бұрын

    Well done! This was a really informative and dope analysis of both ladies' respective debuts.

  • @J1NXXXX
    @J1NXXXX17 күн бұрын

    i’ve been a little mix fan since i was about 13- im 20 now. jesy, for the longest time, was my favorite member due to relating to her struggle of being insecure in her weight. being there to watch jesy & nicki tear leigh down and call her jealous of jesy actually broke my heart. leigh has ALWAYS been the biggest sweetheart, and she didn’t deserve that in the slightest. i disliked jesy for a while after that, and still mostly do. boyz was a terrible song, but bad things definitely deserved a chance. stream leigh-anne’s new ep “no hard feelings” and perrie’s latest single, “tears”! :)

  • @SuperMarkizas
    @SuperMarkizasАй бұрын

    Feels like Jesy messed up bigger because she trashed her ex-band. JoJo is somewhere in the corner doing her thing.

  • @marianarath4024

    @marianarath4024

    15 күн бұрын

    Ironically enough she even said positive things about Abby Lee that would be her equivalent of who she owns her fame, and in that case she actually shouldn’t keep saying good things about that abuser

  • @ShiShi429
    @ShiShi429Ай бұрын

    Are we forgetting "Can't Be Tamed"? Miley had to re-debut basically.

  • @Krissy_K888
    @Krissy_K888Ай бұрын

    I feel bad about Jesy's situation, because I think she was running from her issues by leaving Little Mix and then she didn't take time to work through them before exploring herself as an artist. I suppose that's why her debut had to be just a copy and paste job of an existing song and video. I hope she manages to turn things around both personally and professionally.

  • @AbracadabraBipipityBopotyBOO

    @AbracadabraBipipityBopotyBOO

    Ай бұрын

    Amen. As an OG Mixer, it’s clear the girl has been spiraling for a long time with body dysmorphia, substance abuse issues, and self-esteem problems. The way the tabloids berated her, her label mishandled her issues, and even the fans turned on her continuously from her X Factor days until now, makes me sad for her because she of all the girls doesn’t seem as if she ever really got to enjoy being in Little Mix. When she said she didn’t want to be in the group to avoid comparisons, it made sense. I still can’t believe her label heard her say she wanted to delete herself and still called her to come into work the next week.

  • @COBO2
    @COBO2Ай бұрын

    Diddy’s latest antics has made Jessy’s debut even worse.

  • @chiara8822
    @chiara8822Ай бұрын

    you can tell jesy is still very insecure and resentful towards the other girls. she's always been jealous of them, especially of leigh. i know this doesn't justify anything she's done, but i can't help but feel bad for her. i know what it feels like to be relentlessly bullied; it scars you for life.

  • @mariambah4583

    @mariambah4583

    Ай бұрын

    The difference is that Drake is mixed and Jesy is 100% White

  • @user-cw4gi2tq7w

    @user-cw4gi2tq7w

    Ай бұрын

    ​@DanielSiddique-hq3og if you are pretending to be a race, you're not that's a crime

  • @AbracadabraBipipityBopotyBOO

    @AbracadabraBipipityBopotyBOO

    Ай бұрын

    @chiara8822 You’re rewriting history. From the X Factor days until almost the second to last album, Jesy was the girl who would fight for all of the girls if anyone said anything to or about them. She got in trouble for defending Leigh-Anne against the other Black contestant on C Factor and told radio DJs off for bringing Zayn up when he and Petrie broke up. You are right though that it’s clear she was scarred and never seemed to enjoy her time as a celebrity because of how nasty the UK press has been to her and other celebrities.

  • @Mf7d89
    @Mf7d8924 күн бұрын

    Normani needs to be a part of this video

  • @hi-bd5kn
    @hi-bd5kn19 күн бұрын

    You know it’s bad when jesy nelson is being compared to bloody jojo siwa

  • @criminalmindsgirl2936
    @criminalmindsgirl2936Ай бұрын

    This needs to be a whole list of musicians

  • @shaneilellis9832
    @shaneilellis9832Ай бұрын

    You mean,when PR goes wrong.

  • @honestboy

    @honestboy

    Ай бұрын

    debuts and PR goes hand in hand

  • @shaneilellis9832

    @shaneilellis9832

    Ай бұрын

    @@honestboy aha

  • @Shakeitup2013
    @Shakeitup2013Ай бұрын

    I’m gonna be honest you really make good videos

  • @zanehung7983
    @zanehung7983Ай бұрын

    Little Mix had me thinking there was true united friendship inside this group. Then it made me realise it was still business.

  • @1louisprotector28

    @1louisprotector28

    Ай бұрын

    The other girls are still close and support each other though, Jesy just ruined it for herself because she wanted to be someone she's not. That's her own fault.

  • @bleudiamondbleu

    @bleudiamondbleu

    26 күн бұрын

    There WAS tho. The other 3 are still close. Leighanne just posted on her Instagram story today about Perrie. JESY was the problem.

  • @MyHam-os4bq
    @MyHam-os4bqАй бұрын

    The video I’ve been waiting for. Let’s giddit

  • @viiixixo8026
    @viiixixo8026Ай бұрын

    Honestly these two are proof that contrary to popular belief, not all press is good press.

  • @1louisprotector28
    @1louisprotector28Ай бұрын

    Jesy was trying so hard to seem like a poc/black girl, she know damn well that she was never like that growing up and even early Little Mix days. Putting on that persona just to start her music career was so disgusting. I used to be fan of her when she was in Little Mix, she was my favorite one and I defended her all the time, but after what she did to Leigh-Anne Pinnock and her blocking fans for trying to educate her made me lose all respect for her. Jojo Siwa is just plain cringy and so extra af for no reason. Enough said....

  • @Stardrop-luck
    @Stardrop-luckАй бұрын

    Boyz was a decent song but i really like bad thing more, it felt more real and i was able to connect with it more than boyz which became quite forgettable after awhile,bad thing definitely deserved more than it got❤

  • @criminalmindsgirl2936
    @criminalmindsgirl2936Ай бұрын

    JoJo was just for her time. That was it. Beyond what she's done in the past decade. Nobody cares. She's like the Kardashians/Jenners. Once your time in the spotlight starts to fade. You gotta do everything you can to stay relevant. It's sad honestly. Especially for the "celebrities" who have no talent/jobs These social media influencers/reality stars/gamers

  • @obsessed2754

    @obsessed2754

    28 күн бұрын

    Honestly, the spotlight never left the Kardashian/Jenners. Even if they are basically not doing anything, the news really do stick to them. I get tired hearing from Kardashians too but just accepted that even after a decade and in the future, they still will be relevant. And why is that? The kids are continuing their legacy. Everyone is talking about the kids as well (thankfully in a good way, right now). And even w/o the kids, people are still talking about them (just kendall eating out, kylie dating, kim's shenanigans, what they wear, blah blah). I can't really compare Jojo to them because lmao I dont know what to say about jojo haha still trying to grasp it 😂

  • @dsamsooni4598
    @dsamsooni459814 күн бұрын

    Honestly if Jesy made a song about "Balegdeh" and made it her debut single it would have been iconic

  • @8407x
    @8407xАй бұрын

    jesy slander? let me get my snacks ready!!

  • @criminalmindsgirl2936
    @criminalmindsgirl2936Ай бұрын

    Trying to be Miley Cyrus. Let's be honest..."Flowers" saved Miley's career. Because her Bangerz era almost destroyed it. Along with her wild antics. Hopefully Miley now realized she doesn't need to be over sexual to sell music.

  • @LaraCookie5

    @LaraCookie5

    12 күн бұрын

    Bangerz restored her career again. Her wild antics did ruin it after!

  • @tobennaokoli4450
    @tobennaokoli445028 күн бұрын

    Jesy’s rebrand was a cry for attention. Jojo’s rebrand was a cover up. Common theme: NEITHER was genuine.

  • @akouna
    @akounaАй бұрын

    the difference between them is that jesy was more hated than jojo is jesy is not blackfishing recently, even though she never said anything, it looks like she stopped i really just wish jesy improved, in her little mix era she was really different...

  • @akouna

    @akouna

    Ай бұрын

    @AECONIC she was a bit more open minded and kind, and it just doesn't look like herself now

  • @donjai9366
    @donjai9366Ай бұрын

    Hi Honest speaking of Ariana Grande at 1:38 when are we gonna get that Eternal Sunshine review ? 🤔

  • @callumsahota8799
    @callumsahota8799Ай бұрын

    I really liked Jesy's first single

  • @Janice.g1357

    @Janice.g1357

    Ай бұрын

    Same😭

  • @chiara8822
    @chiara8822Ай бұрын

    boyz is just so unoriginal. i know it's a p diddy sample, but why copy the entire music video?

  • @joncerda351
    @joncerda351Ай бұрын

    Honest, I LOVE ALL THESE VIDEOS. Can we talk about Chappel Roan? She's only debut and the gays are crowning her next Gaga etc. I see her as Taylor Swift for the gays, I genuinely don't get it. Until I see her #1 singles, she's not the next anything.

  • @MagnoliaBelle369
    @MagnoliaBelle36910 күн бұрын

    Perfect exploration and summation.

  • @Anyre.
    @Anyre.Ай бұрын

    How about calling it the Freshman Flop

  • @mallowuy4726
    @mallowuy47269 күн бұрын

    This is what happens when you follow your dreams, when you follow your heart and when you do what makes you happy. People will drag you down if things don't meet their standard.

  • @emeline02
    @emeline02Ай бұрын

    Forgot Jesy existed lmao

  • @Iceking__21_
    @Iceking__21_Ай бұрын

    lavabettabetta annaswii, baboymaresseppi, beinnaiz aliroboureinwen you in betuin da sheetz

  • @Jolenecorn
    @JolenecornАй бұрын

    Lesson learned if is not your time don't waste your time.

  • @90swannabe56
    @90swannabe56Ай бұрын

    I’m quick but I’m late loool. At least Normani is eatingggg

  • @dodinik4466

    @dodinik4466

    Ай бұрын

    I don't know about that. I'm sorry for Normanis management, but her album is boring af

  • @dreameva1400

    @dreameva1400

    Ай бұрын

    @@dodinik4466 Jesy is boring too

  • @ostrichesarecool2635
    @ostrichesarecool2635Ай бұрын

    I’m sorry but I loved the song “boyz” the visuals were pretty and the song was a little nostalgic bop, it’s kinda sad to see how the controversy gathered more attention than the actual song

  • @riojordan3659
    @riojordan3659Ай бұрын

    Next up ‼️ can you please do normani’s debut downer and chloe bailey…. Both of there debuts surprisingly did not take off ….

  • @Keng04T
    @Keng04T25 күн бұрын

    Wasn’t Jesy called out for Black Fishing?

  • @Justyna-dg4hs
    @Justyna-dg4hsАй бұрын

    Boys was a real banger

  • @mildhoof
    @mildhoof6 күн бұрын

    I don't think it's gone wrong for Jojo (yet), she's become a household name through cringe alone. Not sure who her marketing team are, but if they capitalise on this correctly they could be launching a big career here.

  • @ahmednasri6101
    @ahmednasri610116 күн бұрын

    Jesy literally ruined her own career honestly she was amazing in LM and when she left LM lost everything 😢

  • @RihannaChristina
    @RihannaChristina26 күн бұрын

    Jesy wanted to be the Beyonce of the group but she couldn’t even be the Camilla of the group. Nobody was hungry for her

  • @blueprint0162
    @blueprint0162Ай бұрын

    Honest, you have to play fair. When it comes to the Diddy cameo to be fair to Jesy, this was 2 years (2022) BEFORE all the stuff came out about him so I don’t think that it’s fair to say that by him makng a cameo (at the time), was a bad move on Jesy’s part for a debut solo song. Now, if she had released the song AFTER the Diddy stuff then I would agree with your point however, as it was before I don’t think it should be used against her. Jesy didn’t navigate her departure from Little Mix very well at all. She had already fallen out with the rest of the group and was bashing the groups sound. Fair enough that she was more into r&b than pop, but it was the girly pop sound that gave her the platform she has to make music. She shouldn’t have parted with the group in a negative way and bash her former group members. Then to say that you needed a break to take time away, when in fact you were planning on releasing solo music, is what made her not come off well. The song and video in (terms of her look) is what gave negative feedback. I guess some Little Mix fans didn’t like her anymore due to how she left the group and on the other hand, people felt that she was trying too hard to ger away from the Little Mix pop image to be more cool and ‘urban’. The controversy about her look relating to blackfishing also came up which didn’t help then, to add on to all of that there was more drama between her and Leigh-Anne and Nicki Minaj got involved defending Jesy-which caused more problems. The song didn’t land well due to Jesy try too hard to be cool and urban and people found her image and the song corny. Jesy is lost when it comes to music. She shouldn’t have burnt bridges with her ex group members and really should’ve taken time out to figure out who she is and her sound because by doing that, she would’ve had an authentic transition into a solo artist. Maybe in the future she will come out with more believable and better music but for now, she needs to find her way.

  • @LP-ct9nk

    @LP-ct9nk

    29 күн бұрын

    People in the industry have known about Diddy for years. There’s a reason his appearances in songs started to dwindle even before the allegations came out Not to mention she worked with Nicki and all the stuff about her man was definitely known and an issue but jesy didn’t care cuz she was starstruck

  • @AG-fg1uk

    @AG-fg1uk

    27 күн бұрын

    ​@@LP-ct9nkNicki brought hype to the song as this was her first feature since a 2 year hiatus. Everyone liked the single when it dropped. Things went downhill when Leigh anne brought up blackfishing to obviously rain on her release. That's what white pop stars were doing at that time including Ariana Grande.

  • @amoreweasley5302

    @amoreweasley5302

    15 күн бұрын

    @AG-fg1uk That is quite a lot of lies. Everyone clearly hated it. I’m pretty sure there’s an article from Harvard talking about the song being horrible. The reception to the song was so clearly negative. And it’s weird to say things went downhill from Leigh Anne talking about the blackfishing cause that’s another lie. Everyone already talked about it after her first picture after the announcement she was leaving the group when she was still dark. Then more people talked about it after the teasers for the song came out. Then much more people talked about it right after the music video was released. People didn’t start talking about it because of Leigh Anne. You’re twisting things to take blame off of Jesy

  • @ambergris5705
    @ambergris57053 күн бұрын

    Another thing in common, is that both releases were so selfish and egocentric. Jesy's departure from Little Mix got her a lot of sympathy, along with the understanding that she needed time away from the limelight. So when she came back (too quickly) with a worse version of what she was already doing at LM, seemingly contradicting her own statements, it did not feel like a genuine new start like we were wishing for her, but instead like an unjustified divorce that left everyone worse off. It's as if she was "finally I am free to do what I want, now where's the fake tan !?" Jojo's debut is also treating her fanbase as irrelevant or even a burden. You like me? Too bad, now I am BAAAAD. I have no doubt Jojo got stuck playing a (cringe and immature) role which was not comfortable, and which she needed to shed, but she chose instead to go for something even more cringe and immature. Why ? Clearly because she wanted to be the center of attention, instead of being open and transparent and honest in her new era. Jojo wants to break away from her persona, but where it would be beautiful and sweet to be herself with her fans, instead she treats it like a game. Now, selfishness and egocentrism in music is very common, but those two situations were so blatant that I am not surprised it turned out bad for them.

  • @twiiterthread3885
    @twiiterthread3885Ай бұрын

    BAD BOY NO RECIPE BEGIN NICE A LITTLE BORING WHNE IN BETWEEN MY SHEETS SHEETS

  • @velky_reeds
    @velky_reeds26 күн бұрын

    literally didn't know Jesy has been releasing new songs this entire time 💀

  • @Young4eva121
    @Young4eva121Ай бұрын

    0:33 Scared the crap out of me

  • @adamwayne6301
    @adamwayne6301Ай бұрын

    Jesy did NOT deserve the hate train she got. Thats shit was so ridiculous.

  • @1louisprotector28

    @1louisprotector28

    Ай бұрын

    Coming from a former fan of her, she did deserve it. If she didn't start her solo career trying to be someone she never was, it wouldn't have backfired on her. Blocking fans who loved her and just trying to educate her on what she was doing, she definitely deserved the hate.

  • @adamwayne6301

    @adamwayne6301

    29 күн бұрын

    @@1louisprotector28 the blackfishing stuff was so ridiculous. She can tan if she wants and wear whatever the fuck she wants.

  • @adamwayne6301

    @adamwayne6301

    29 күн бұрын

    @@1louisprotector28 get outta here with the wokey pokey bull crap

  • @1louisprotector28

    @1louisprotector28

    29 күн бұрын

    @@adamwayne6301 Lmfao!! You're so mad. And since she can do and wear what she wants and steal black culture she deserves hate. I hope she continues to get hated on and her career flops.

  • @1louisprotector28

    @1louisprotector28

    29 күн бұрын

    @@adamwayne6301 You're so mad lmfao!! If she can do and wear whatever then she should get used to the hate.

  • @EclecticPotpourri
    @EclecticPotpourriАй бұрын

    did I miss the blackfishing part of the video?

  • @murrrmur

    @murrrmur

    Ай бұрын

    no, he didn't even mention it, which was very surprising to me.

  • @EclecticPotpourri

    @EclecticPotpourri

    Ай бұрын

    @@murrrmur with the whole union Jack sequin durag lol.

  • @PennyMsElite
    @PennyMsElite29 күн бұрын

    Diddy a career killer😂

  • @dor4376
    @dor437627 күн бұрын

    Jessy, so smart to leave a great band to make "her type of music" (well, diddy's cover, how nice😂)

  • @JAZZYJSCOOBY
    @JAZZYJSCOOBY29 күн бұрын

    In Jesy's defense, the general public was not aware of all the craziness Diddy has been involved in (aside from gossip, we just started learning about Diddy's stuff in 2023), so I imagine she didn't know when her song was released in 2021.

  • @scoopofgossip
    @scoopofgossip28 күн бұрын

    The shade 😂

  • @emilykubicek8885
    @emilykubicek8885Ай бұрын

    This video just reminds me that I loved Bad Thing by Jesy. I hope she can recover from this or find a niche audience or something.

  • @xoluciaxo_3721
    @xoluciaxo_3721Ай бұрын

    Jojo’s debut is actually quite succesful if you think about it, the song and dance went crazy viral on tiktok. Even though its just to make fun of it, everyone did that dance 💀

  • @nacereddinechallal4405
    @nacereddinechallal440513 күн бұрын

    Jojo Siwa s head coming out the water in that mask still haunts my nightmares ; it even became my sleep paralysis demon once .

  • @v_v_zip
    @v_v_zipАй бұрын

    Considering the Boyz would have been a hit, I dont think Jesy doesn't even DESERVE to be along side Jojo and Karma as a bad debut. Jojo and Karma were DESTINED to flop because of the way Jojo handled it while Jesy's problem wasn't the song but her CONTINUOUS scandals of mistreating little mix members(Especially Leigh-Anne) and her constant blackfishing

  • @Vuitton_The_Ruler_
    @Vuitton_The_Ruler_24 күн бұрын

    One wanna be Beyonce and the other trying to be Miley Cyrus 😂

  • @lilysowner
    @lilysowner27 күн бұрын

    Dont forget to add Normani...that rocket barely went up lol

  • @glencoconut
    @glencoconutАй бұрын

    I feel like Jojo's attempt at rebranding failed because she was very happily telling everyone she's a bad girl now. it worked for other artists like miley because she didn't actively talk about her rebrand saying 'guys! look at me! i'm different now! :D' she just, changed naturally and shifted music sounds

  • @juliolgiati
    @juliolgiati29 күн бұрын

    The worst parts of Jojo’s controversy were saying she wrote the song, saying she changed the sound completely from the previous version, saying she didn’t know who Brit Smith was, saying she wanted to invent gay pop, saying she didn’t knwo who Gene Simmons was.. etc. It was more her lack of awareness than the fact that it was not as good as Brit’s one

  • @sirenseulgi
    @sirenseulgi17 күн бұрын

    if any of you have ever experienced hearing Karma at a drag bar you would know that songs iconiccccccccc

  • @Shaniya82
    @Shaniya82Ай бұрын

    What hurts me the most is that these girls are really talented, hope they bounce back from all these mess.

  • @user-cw4gi2tq7w

    @user-cw4gi2tq7w

    Ай бұрын

    Jesy is not😂

  • @anastasiap1856

    @anastasiap1856

    Ай бұрын

    ​​@@user-cw4gi2tq7w Between Jesy and Jojo, Jesy's by far the most talented. I don't like her. But I've known her since Little Mix for a long time. Unlike Jojo, she is objectively a great vocalist when she utilises her voice right, and in the context of the group she had both great dance skills and stage presence.

  • @OoOme-qr4wk

    @OoOme-qr4wk

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@user-cw4gi2tq7w Talent wise Jesy can sing dance and rap Jojo is just a dancer

  • @DW-bk5nb
    @DW-bk5nbАй бұрын

    I’d argue jojos launch ,while corny, was definitely successful atleast for the meme. I could easily see her pivoting into better music and everyone suddenly unironically enjoying her

  • @LP-ct9nk

    @LP-ct9nk

    29 күн бұрын

    Yup all it takes is a bop and then people will like her again. The public has short memories when it comes to stuff like that