Lack of evidence of an afterlife is not evidence of no afterlife. We just simply don’t know. People say with such certainty that we just cease to exist after death as if they’ve been there

@CraigTalbert

4 ай бұрын

What can be asserted without evidence an be dismissed without evidence.

The word God is really used by different people in different ways. First of all, one must decide what this word means when they say it.

@spiralsun1

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. The confusion of language is actually part of the problem, when you consider that talking about the same thing in different ways is the reason for all the religious wars and atrocities-like all the animals in all the niches eating each other through eternity and only humans having the mere potential to transcend this. Only humans. Only a small subset of humans who see. So tenuous, so beleaguered by the forces of destruction played out in benevolent merciful theatre all around that we might make the right choices. Maybe it comes down to just one person. This puts “be the change” in a new light. ❤️‍🔥🙏🏻 Is your idea of god what you want to project onto the world, or what is actually written there? So many questions that people need to ask on the journey. To question self is growth, is the basis for the advancement of all life and human knowledge. Ego stops that. By this it symbolizes death. But niches are so enticing to finite creatures in the early stages. I recently went to an exhibition of the Sistine chapel and it felt good to be there. I am a very optimistic soul. I can work with people willing to sacrifice and make beautiful things and who are wanting truth. They exist, even in their faithful ignorance. I feel that the collective human soul has potential in this regard. Sometimes we think we save the world by curing a disease. But we forget the revolutions in thought that brought us the cure, the immense sacrifice and egoless ness of those who brought eternity to earth in these ideas at great personal sacrifice. These are the people who we must find, support and cherish. Every single one of them a paintbrush of a Sistine nature. I have looked on Indeed. There is currently no job for thinkers. Astronauts of thought. Our current thought leaders are only those who the masses of people can understand enough. Our upper echelons of academia are those who do the current patterns well. They get the attention and the grants. We have left no opening for the revolutions of life -and that leads automatically to revolutions of death. This is the real meaning and purpose behind the experiment that is the freedom of the United States. WHY DO WE FORGET THAT?!? We forgot the miracle of peace that WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE. 👁✊🏻 “It is the doom of men that they forget” -Merlin I REMEMBER.

These are my favorite conversations with Jaron Lanier. Thank you!💚

Very cool point about the idealization of digital abstractions. Makes tons of sense but had never thought of it that way.

i love this guy

lovely

Embracing and advocating confusion is novel.

I love this series, but this one was very confusing. I think they forget the central points.

Here's an idea, whether or not you can prove God's existence, what is more important is, the beliefs that people hold about the existence of God, and how those beliefs manifest in human behavior towards themselves and others. In other words what effect does any given belief or a collection of beliefs have on a person's Behavior, or a cultures Behavior? In other words, like Santa Claus, does it really matter whether Santa Claus existed or not? What matters is the effect that it has on the culture and the economy. This idea of Santa Claus produces a certain amount of economic and social activity. Is the activity positive? Is it negative? What's the overall outcome of operating while holding that belief? Did Jesus exist? Did he not exist? Does it matter? What matters is not the belief itself, but what effect the belief has on people's behavior towards themselves and others. Beliefs, like everything else, our tools. You can do wonderful things with a tool, or you can do terrible things with a tool.

Like Queens of the Stone Age said, "No one knows".

@ottodetroit

2 жыл бұрын

\m/

How do we confuse the Evil part of ourselves ? Please elaborate .... Thanks

@LowenKM

2 жыл бұрын

He mentions it early on (1:10), that despite all of humanity's advances, we still overlook and even deliberately ignore some of our deepest, and perhaps darkest traits, mostly thru Fear... among them that we are at heart a very clannish, aka Tribal species, obsessed with gossip, status and 'pecking order'. And it's reflected in our notions of 'God'.

Think about God as the source of all life experiences in the minds of each created man. God is the processor of information. Man and God are the same thing.

Well, I'm confused.

@palewine

5 жыл бұрын

Good!

But they miss the point of objective truth. Without it there is nothing. Even within QED for instance, there is the objective truth (demonstrable) that the light particle will arrive somewhere, just precisely where, we may not know, but it arrives nonetheless.

@Solloco

3 жыл бұрын

And the light particle will always take the fastest possible route, ALWAYS. Therefore, the light has to know where it will ultimately end up before it can choose the direction to begin moving in.

correction the Hebrew saw God, Thy Lord God, Thy Father as such we often commit to pecking order because the world around us in its nature does and the universe! yet we have the ability to fight this entropy and create to push forward! in this manner we are made in a God and like this God we should Father that around us we must give to the idea of life!

How completely unfair to ask this question in the space of time allowed for an answer or discussion. Ridiculous.

Fundamentalism is dangerous whether theistic or atheistic. I guess that's more or less paraphrasing what he says and he's right.

Wow, this guy is a genius. Completely opened up my way of thinking to a new avenue.

I am saying nothing created everything so their is no creator greater than myself. Someone could kill me for saying it. This would only prove I was murdered. When they die perhaps I will be there waiting for them. I am anti falsehood.

@shanethompson8730

3 жыл бұрын

Check out "What is Nothing episode" - Closer to Truth. If you think about it, even in your statement, 'nothing', is 'something', because we can't really conceive what 'nothing' would even be.

2:55 did he say aridity?

Why.

The slow zoom-in and slow zoom-out was so unnecessary

How should we think about God? 0

The reason people can't agree about what the word God means is that there simply are no facts about god, just opinions. This is to me is clear evidence that god is fictional.

Men created gods, not the other way around.

@07serda

5 жыл бұрын

Hiroki KZread would agree the Universe created men? Follow up question, is it possible that what made conscious men might too itself be conscious on some level?

You as "i'am" vs 'in verses' King === kin via king hong UKong ( ==>>> nk via CIA mural

I don't get it. Is this supposed to be a theological discussion?

The truth hurts.

Is Darth Vader in the room somewhere ?

Where science ends, God the creator begins because of an obsession to try to understand the unknown.. Religion is another power structure of fairy tales.

you could say Jaron is a Confusionist

These are the four *biggest hoaxes* (containing the most deadly memes) in history: *_1_* The Hebrew Bible (the Tanakh or Mikra), a collection of 24 books written in biblical Hebrew/Aramaic. It is mostly based on oral and written religious traditions of other peoples around the Israelites. Those 24 books are the source for the 46 books of the Catholic Bible Old Testament (accepted by the Eastern Orthodox Church) and the 39 books of the Protestant Bible Old Testament. *_2_* The New Testament, a collection of 27 books in the Catholic and Protestant bibles. It is based on the Hebrew Bible. *_3_* The Quran, a collection of 114 chapters (Surahs) divided into verses. It is based on the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament. These holy books have three *big* problems: 1 Following Genesis 3:1 they say Adam and Eve (who never lived) sinned and thus brought pain, death, disease, and bloodshed into the world. A talking male serpent? 2 They have caused and are causing untold physical and mental suffering to humankind. 3 Although they claim to be clear and trustworthy, being God’s word, they make many vague statements contradicting modern science. *_4_* Karl Marx’s _Das Kapital,_ which holds ideas and ideals that will never work. The first communists were first-century Christians, who failed miserably. Sharing, altruism, and cooperation are *not* in our genes-we have to work hard for them; read Richard Dawkins’s _Selfish Gene._ 💕 ☮ 🌎 🌌

@roland20002000

5 жыл бұрын

The truth, if it is the truth, may well be more dangerous than fiction. If 3000 years ago instead of writing the bible the Jews wrote a book saying we are a selfish gene, we live our miserable lives, we are no more important than any other animal, our only purpose in life is to reproduce and then we die where do you think we'd be now?

@tomjackson7755

5 жыл бұрын

@@roland20002000 Who knows? Think of all of the thinkers that the christians killed because they saw through the lies of christianity. Do you not realize that is why China was so far ahead of the west for so long?

God would reprove him for his mop and his gluttony. The God he hasnt sought with his whole heart, mind, soul and strength will judge him! He's a mess, literally. Even if he had truth, who would take him seriously!

Not the best explanation I’ve seen on Closer to Truth.

@JerseyLynne

5 жыл бұрын

ok, i skipped it...thanks

God is a spook.

The lost are dead in their sins. The lost have no wisdom to give.

@flightskoo

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks dad

Exactly, he is a Jew..........I don't want ANYTHING to do with Jews, which is why I believe in Jesus! So HA!!!

Hard to take a middle aged overweight man's advice. Clearly shows a lack good decision making lol