I really enjoyed the review and found it quite helpful. Thank you for going so in depth. Hope to see more in the future.

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

That's awesome. Appreciate the positive feedback🍻

Me like review. Review good. Yeah. I think I’m going to have to get this. It’s almost scary good. Thanks for the honest review!

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

My man right here gets it🍻

@johanvandersandt8904

Ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

Love the channel name , so glad the algorithm served me this vid !

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

That's awesome. Welcome, glad you could make it🍻🍻

Great review! I have been eyeing this model for a while and the fact that reviews of it are still coming out, tells me I need to hop on the train! Glad they also offer halflinks now too. Keep up the fantastic content! Appreciate you putting out what you can while also working a big boy job :)

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

I enjoy doing it. It's a good little side-hobby outside of family and work. At first I enjoyed the watches but I've found that I actually enjoy the editing part the most. I like being able to communicate the way that I want in a way that resonates with me🍻

Been eyeing this for a while. Let’s see how much longer I can resist. I doubt it’s gonna be long. Nice review

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

I feel you. Same thing happened to me🍻

Funny thing, I prefer this logo over the IWC logo.

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

I do like this logo very much👌

Great review!

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

Much appreciated 🍻

Well done! I don’t usually like integrated bracelet watches but your point of view is solid.

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

Much appreciated🍻

Thanks for making a review. Not enough reviews on this one

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

The ones I've seen have been good. I couldn't believe them; had to check it out for myself🍻

I have this exact watch and I LOVE IT. It's gorgeous

@degenerateWA

17 күн бұрын

It's an extremely well made watch that's for sure

Very good review. Like you I had to get one myself just to silent the nagging voice, lol. After the legal action by IWC and having the images taken down, my burning curiosity forced me to order one without much description, hoping they will send this version. And maybe the last batch of this specific design that they will make. Got it last week! Just some references for collectors/addicts. Better than my Sinn, upper tier Prospex, and IWC Mk XVIII; equal to my Longines and Tudor’s; and below pieces that are above 5k. Some micros like CW, Kurono, and Ming are also near equal. Very versatile to wear. Another compliment, I was wondering about the “antimagnetic” on the back. Thank you for opening the case and showing the Faraday cage!

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

Very good insight, thanks. I was wondering why it was no longer available directly from IXDAO. I had to buy it from a third party seller on AliExpress. Maybe that's their work around to "selling it without selling it". Whatever the case is, I'm very impressed with what they've done. If they were to ever focus on making something original, they'd be hard to beat.

Me like watch, me pondering for months, me pulling trigger when sale comes .. this review was the tipping point! Thanks for that!

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

That's awesome, great to hear🍻

@amalik291

Ай бұрын

Black dial in natural light looks awesome .. need to toss between this and black MOP dial ..

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

@amalik291 the MOP looks great. I opted for this because it's a bit more conservative and I felt would fit in better in my boring daily life.

@amalik291

Ай бұрын

Now that you called this one conservative, sod that .. I'm getting the MOP :)

@julianferrer6791

Ай бұрын

me toooo. shiiiiny

This is an amazing watch to keep in your drawer

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

Life is tough man, I get it👍

Is there so much difference between this movement and the pt500 co,in by default? Thanks

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

I know the PT5000 is a ETA2824 clone, but so is the SW200 so realistically I don't think any normal person is going to notice a difference. The PT5000 is capable of COSC accuracy so it's more than capable.

@jorgeshss

Ай бұрын

Thanks for this clarification!!!

I really like that H link bracelet. Don’t like butterfly clasps though. How does that dial look in the flesh? Does it look plastic?

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

My footage is accurate to what it looks like in person. Does not look of poor quality if that's what you're wondering

Me like watch too!

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

Ooga booga! Watch good!

Excellent and thorough review, Dude! While Chinese sweat shop watches aren't my thing, I can certainly see the appeal of this one. Great specs for the money in a well finished package. Looking at my cost for an SW200, I don't think I could build something similar on my own bench for this price.

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

"Chinese watch" is such a broad term when explaining quality. You've got the sweatshops, then you've got the high end, and then you've got somewhere in the middle where the quality and efficiency of production is, in some ways, putting the Swiss market to shame. I predict that if that "somewhere in the middle" industry steps away from blatant copies and focuses on legitimately original designs, they will be unbeatable.

@Time4aWatch

Ай бұрын

@@degenerateWA I 100% agree with you about the different levels of Chinese watches. However, I'm very familiar with the cost of components in the Chinese market. So for me, it's a simple math problem to work out the cost of components versus the final retail price to get an idea of the manufacturing cost. Once you figure out the manufacturing cost, you can then make a solid judgement on which level of the Chinese watch industry built it.

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

@@Time4aWatch Very true. I've had brands reach out to sell their product through my channel; it was eye-opening to find out what the "actual" cost was compared to retail. I always knew there was a difference, I just didn't expect it to be that extreme. This is why I don't dwell on "value". Too many variables and its definition changes vastly from person to person. All I can control is: do i like it? can I afford it? if yes to both questions, then I'm fine with that.

@Time4aWatch

Ай бұрын

@@degenerateWA You have a very healthy perspective on that, Sir!

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

@@Time4aWatch great minds think alike🍻

Very classy and beautiful piece of time.

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

Right on🍻

Was this the black or grey dial?

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

Black dial

The fact that IWC broke kayfabe and tried to sue over a homage is telling. What an incredible free marketing gift for IX&DAO

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

Thank you for introducing me to the word 'kayfabe'🍻 And yes, very telling. Although I understand it. If I were a designer/business owner, I'd do the same thing. Regardless, IXDAO has made something incredible👌

@bertholdbach4959

Ай бұрын

This looks like a direct copy, not a hommage. A hommage would be in the same style not a 1:1, right?

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

@@bertholdbach4959 they're all the same to me. Whatever you want to call it is up to you; I won't take it personally. Objectively, based on the evidence available to me and compared to all of the watches I've experienced, this is a very well-made watch.

What's your wrist size? Do you think this will look big on my 6 1/2 inch wrist?

@bifflee3603

Ай бұрын

I have the blue dial and my wrist is 6.5 and it wears fine

@davidsonviray1403

Ай бұрын

@@bifflee3603 i see do you have a wrist shot?, how many links did you removed?

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

My wrist is around 7.75". Hard to say if it will fit; completely up to your preferences and comfort level. Personally I think it'll look fine but that's just me.

@davidsonviray1403

Ай бұрын

@@bifflee3603 i see how many links did you removed?

@davidsonviray1403

Ай бұрын

@@degenerateWA do you know the measurement of the crown?

The doggos also approve of the Engineer! It seems like a great watch. Very rugged and stylish look to it! People who knock Chinese stuff simply because its Chinese are missing out.

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

More for us is all I'm saying😈😎🍻

@johanvandersandt8904

Ай бұрын

@@degenerateWA I have no problem with that haha! Take care man!

Its an amazing piece for sure. One of the best ive ever owned from amy Chinese brand and many microbrands

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

They've made something incredible. If I wasn't such an addict I could stop right here and have more than enough👌

They should have just called it 9 Banners lol

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

Where's the mystique in that? 🤣

Mine stopped working after only 2 months of purchase and only 5 times of wrist time total. But even before it broke, the winding felt like grinding sandpaper and wheel balance rattled around on my arm like crazy. Now The watch is useless, official IXDAO web page refuses any responsibility and tells me to contact ali express store where I bought the watch directly from. And the Ali express page tells me to send it back to them on my own dime for repairs. Well. I just went to the post office and the postage fees are 100 plus dollars to get it back to china with tracking. Which, there is no way I am gonna pay. Long story short. Stay away, they are not dependable, and they will try not to deal with you whatsoever if they can. Now with 150K subscribers I feel tempted to make a video about these fools, however I am not a watch channel, it feels tempting for sure.

@degenerateWA

8 күн бұрын

This same exact comment was made a few days ago. Why was it deleted and then reposted?

@AhmetAtalayOfficial

8 күн бұрын

@@degenerateWA if someone made a simillar comment then there must be other sore customers as I am. This is the first time I am on your channel making any comments. My channel is not about wrist watches, I got no gain on posting about watches. I am simply an angry customer who has been left in the cold with a broken Piece of crap watch. And I will keep posting about them until they either fix or send a replacement of my watch.

@degenerateWA

8 күн бұрын

@@AhmetAtalayOfficial that's unfortunate. hopefully you can get it resolved. If they did that to me I would just initiate a charge-back through my bank.

@jacksong6634

3 күн бұрын

just spend $35 on another PT5000 movement and replace it yourself... similar to all eta2824 movements hand winding is NOT recommended - you likely broke it because of that, which happens to ALL eta2824 variants.

@AhmetAtalayOfficial

3 күн бұрын

@@jacksong6634 thank you for the suggestion. I don’t know much about the inner workings of watches. However I hand wind all of my automatic and mechanical watches without issues. As long as I don’t over wind it, I would assume “winding” is the only way to go if the watch has been sitting around. I would entertain the idea of replacing the movement. However I would not know how to do it at all.

Over think away sir!!!

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

My brain stays working 100% over capacity

Thank you for daring to cross the line and say some Chinese watches are outstanding. This aspect of the industry confuses the s**t out of me: First, there are Chinese brands that don't get respect but totally put luxury brands in their place. Then, there are the microbrands that are from "France" the "UK" or the "US" but are basically made in China. Third, there are some big famous brands that make their watches in China and are just kind of their own legacy thing. And some mall/fashion brands that are just Chinese watches command high prices. And I'm thinking, what if the factory in Switzerland is basically operated by Chinese people? Like what the actual hell does any of it mean? Is the watch industry racist? why does Swiss mean quality really? Seriously at this point. Should it be more embarrassing to wear a copy of an expensive watch... or wear a $20k watch that looks and functions the same as a watch that cost 1%. I don't have the answer Sway.

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

There's definitely a gross over-generalization of watches and where they supposedly come from. Like I said in the video, Swiss watches are automatically assumed to be good and Chinese watches not so much; anyone who's looked at this thing objectively will see that's not always the case. Subjectively, "value" is so greatly influenced by trends, social perceptions, and even media politics that I can understand why the watch community is the way that it is. All we can do is see past the bullshit and analyze each watch for its own merits and make educated opinions for ourselves🍻

九 = Nine, 纛 = Banner

@degenerateWA

Ай бұрын

0:26 🍻