My father was a non-commissioned officer aboard the TRENTO from 1940 until June 2 1942 when she was sunk by the British. My father went down with the ship. He survived by hanging on to flotsam for some 14 hours. He was aboard her at Matapan.

Real life: Zara class had no torps; most heavily armoured cruiser until the arrival of the Des Moines class post WW2; regarded by most naval historians as the best Washington Treaty cruiser (along with the Algerie). WG and "in game": fragile as per Italian flavour. To WG: did you really do your homework here?

@redtob2119

3 жыл бұрын

They did the same with the algerie

@RNLittorio

3 жыл бұрын

I remember Zara and her sisters got obliterated by HMS Warspite and HMS Valiant with 4 broadside hits from the former and 5 from the latter. Sunk a few hours after that. What do you expect her in game? Sustain 10 broadside hits? Funny enough, only 9 hits were enough to sink her as heavily armored doesn't mean she really can sustain that much firepower.

@cheguevara7478

3 жыл бұрын

Well Des Moines is more vulnerable than Minotaur as it has enough armor to fuse

@tonalddrump2712

3 жыл бұрын

@@RNLittorio Are you really comparing "Armor" on a cruiser when it comes to battleship shells up close? The Italian cruiser force was a considerable threat to the Royal Navy in the Mediterranean sea because of their superior firepower and armor (compared to British cruisers at the time). They should at least be able to tank some cruiser shells.

@AndrewGivens

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonalddrump2712 Just play a better simulation than Wows/Armada. Tabletop used to give the results people are after if accuracy is demanded.

woow you can absolutely dominate the enemies with those ships.... ....in Co-op lol

@faiqcreates

4 жыл бұрын

U dont

@Danieloncarevic

4 жыл бұрын

@@faiqcreates Exactly, even in co-op, you will be the first ship to sink most of the time. If you don't, it's probably because you were hiding behind others and dealt no damage to bots.

@silent113e5

4 жыл бұрын

@@Danieloncarevic yup 1 salvo of Us bb is enough to wreck 2/3 of your health

@fabiospasiano9885

4 жыл бұрын

Fuck you

@stevemc01

3 жыл бұрын

vũ minh đức Lmao.

How to play Italian Cruisers: Throw a few AP rounds at them and enjoy the citadel ribbons. Oh, you meant how to play AS Italian Cruisers? Why would you want to do that?

@soffici1

4 жыл бұрын

Sheer masochism

@juliaslavova9672

3 жыл бұрын

Um people dont no how

These ships need substantial buffs, the SAP one announced one week ago is *not* enough! Give them a Main Battery Reload Booster as their damage is pitiful, the only strength they should have! EDIT: just noticed how the video says SAP can't ricochet until 80 degrees, that's false! They can at 70! So bring the assured angle back to 80!

@estoyaqui5386

4 жыл бұрын

Please no gimmicks like reload-boosters. Give them fire-chance instead.

@darksigge9495

4 жыл бұрын

alsoe giv them AA defens and hydro woulf be nice to

@flyingphoenix113

4 жыл бұрын

@@estoyaqui5386 or better yet, buff the reload outright. I hate gimmicks like the reload booster.

@TomsonPRD

4 жыл бұрын

@@darksigge9495 that would make them basically the same as all cruisers, plus too good vs DDs

@darksigge9495

4 жыл бұрын

@@TomsonPRD so we cant defend agest DD ore planes, so then it is point less to even play play them den, becos thare AA sucks and a look a DD the dd smoke up and he kan He spam me intel i die.

And here I am waiting for 1 or 2 spanish ships at least...

@italianspaghettiboo3902

3 жыл бұрын

You fool have you forgotten about the Argentinian navy

@maxbradley4097

3 жыл бұрын

@@italianspaghettiboo3902 wasn’t there a south American arms race in the 1910s?

@concepto935

3 жыл бұрын

@@italianspaghettiboo3902 no tienes que hablar ingles :v el sabe español

@cheguevara7478

3 жыл бұрын

Agincourt was South American

@emiliojoselopeznieto1065

2 жыл бұрын

Lo bueno es que Wargaming confirmó hace días la llegada de la rama española en honor al Día de la Hispanidad. Empezarán la rama con el crucero pesado de tier VI premium Canarias.

"Starting from Tier 5, Italian cruisers have 203mm guns". While this is true of the premium T5 cruiser Genova, it is NOT true of the researchable ships; Raimondo Montecuccoli (T5) has 152mm main armament. The tech-tree 203mm guns do not start until Tier 6. I know your statement is technically correct, but some might see it as misleading. I do believe the Montecuccoli could do with 1 to 2 seconds quicker reload time.

@tetragon2137

4 жыл бұрын

For 152mm guns? She needs a hell of a lot more than just 2 seconds shaved off her reload. Either more range or a *lot* more DPS. Konigsberg outreaches Monte, out DPM's Monte and still somehow manages to be tankier than Monte.

@serbreadboard8578

4 жыл бұрын

I was looking for this comment reguarding the tech tree tier V only having 152s. I do agree the Monte could use a reload buff of just a couple seconds. I think wargaming wants long reload to be a flavor of the Italians and I'm fine with that as long as the salvos arn't too underwhelming.I don't think it's unreasonable to take the reload to say 12.5 seconds from its current 14.3? But I don't make the decisions.

How to Pizza de Pasta: 1. You don't.

@hmr1122

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I wanted to write. They are hot garbage atm.

@rocker10039

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@RedXlV

4 жыл бұрын

The way you play Italian cruisers is: wait for the buff, then play them..

Feel bad for italians, they waited a long time for their ships and finally they got crap...

@ekintekdal2805

4 жыл бұрын

Need buff

How to play italian cruisers? You dont

@santiagoperez2094

4 жыл бұрын

Just like the rest of the nations

@christianzeimentz3463

4 жыл бұрын

Yes because they arent avaylabe😭

@juliaslavova9672

3 жыл бұрын

@@christianzeimentz3463 THEY ARE DONT PREDICT PLAY THE GAME FIRST DUMBY

Can't start fires, no armor, no radar, no hydro, crappy concealment, long reload... Am I missing something? What was it that was supposed to have made these good?

@justafairytailfan1195

4 жыл бұрын

Good? Äh maybe speed

@SuperGoodison

4 жыл бұрын

Have to remember not many Italian ships left port lol

@user-yy2br1rn7e

4 жыл бұрын

They are beautiful

@baroncaledon5940

4 жыл бұрын

@@SuperGoodison but the Italian ships were very good equivalent to the royal navy ships if not better for example the Roma irl

As an italian I'm offended by those "ships"

@Kubinator1337

4 жыл бұрын

Italian navy didn´t do much irl though so it´s accurate xD

@Mary50510

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kubinator1337 You rude :(

@Kubinator1337

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mary50510 maybe xD :)

@Mary50510

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kubinator1337 lmao

@Kubinator1337

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mary50510 hahaha

1:49 what kind of ... "statement" is that? It´s like saying "Although gasoline engines don´t differ much from Diesel-powered ones, they can also move a car" Wouldn´t make a difference if you just leave out that sentence.

change the horrible reload on guns and maybe it would be playable - for now its worst in game for every tier :/

@SeaRaptor

4 жыл бұрын

Not at Tier VII. ;)

@philley2545

4 жыл бұрын

That's simply not true. Especially for T8-10. They aren't the best, but not bad either. What is true tho: They're among the most difficult to play in any tier.

@Arthion

4 жыл бұрын

@@philley2545 You wrote 'frustrating' wrong there ;) When you have do work harder and constantly try to do 110% the work you normally do to get the same result they word you're looking for is 'frustrating' not 'difficult' :P

@zastronomer7592

2 жыл бұрын

only the purto rico has longer reload than venezia. but PR has 12 305mm guns

Giulio Cesare: best pizza Roma: good pizza Italian premium cruisers: average pizza Italian cruisers and Genova: pizza with pineapple

@lucberger997

4 жыл бұрын

I dont mind pineapple on pizza

@rogercoulombe3613

4 жыл бұрын

@Wolves Alliance, none of that capitalist nonsense here.

@lucberger997

4 жыл бұрын

@@rogercoulombe3613 nah i prefer without but with isnt gross or anything. Btw love the italian cruisers

@p.f.886

4 жыл бұрын

Jokes aside, I don't mind pineapple on pizza too, even though I am Italian. Here in Italy putting pineapple on pizza is considered by most people as an insult to pizza and Italy, but I don't agree.

@jaredw9171

4 жыл бұрын

@@lucberger997 You probably play the Krazny Krym too and like it don't you?

So it´s basically a "gitgud" comment like the one they gave when introducing the broken GZ, just put in a video?

I like the new crusiers although their DPM leaves much to be desired. They need 15s reload, not 20

Italian Cruisers: How To - play the Smolensk until they're buffed out of hot garbage tier

also note how all the examples are done in the Training room; in reality you very often CANNOT pull off these shots in a game with live players; and at these ranges expect to die or get citadelled to death exposing even slight broadside.

I am gonna make a controversial comment: my first impression of italian cruisers, specifically the Trento after unlocking her with the combat mission, was quite positive. I do like the heavy cruiser playstyle and I think SAP and the exhaust smoke are interesting new mechanics. Plus the slow long ranged torps are surprisingly effective. However, after playing multiple games with her, being both bottom and top tier, I did start to struggle with her. Her damage output is quite low. I consider myself to have fairly good aim, but most of the time I averaged around 1K per salvo. SAP can be powerful, but 5 and 6K salvos are the exception not the rule. Considering her slow reload as well I struggle to break 100K in almost every match. So I do think italian cruisers need some help so I am glad that their SAP is getting a pen-angle buff. Another controversial oppinon: I don't think the armour is that big of a problem. Yes its very weak, but actively maneuvering, changing speed and using the occasional charge of exhaust smoke really does help IMO. The big problem I see with italian cruisers are their low overall damage output. They are glass-cannons. They should be high risk/high reward - ships which I think they will be with an increase to their damage output.

I dont understand why for WG is so difficult to admit mistakes. This line and the SAP was rushed too much. It required more testing. So wouldn't it be better to say "sorry we screw up and will take more time to test this ships" .

This video would have been perfect for April Fool's Day. The line is HORRIBLE! Italian players should be offended at this line.

@TomsonPRD

4 жыл бұрын

Well said! The line seems super rushed, with far less dedication received as opposed to their glorified fake Soviet BB tech tree.

@snakefh

4 жыл бұрын

@@TomsonPRD Nah not super rushed, the SAP in the test server before the nerf was so freakng awesome.... they nerfed to the ground and trust me, tey gonna add a prenerf SAP to a premium soviet ship

@ctrl4613

4 жыл бұрын

@@TomsonPRD While most of the BB's are indeed fake or paper ships, some of them did actually exist, like the Gangut and the Imperator Nikolai. Now what about paper ships, most people complain and scream about how the russian line is so fake because of all of its ships that never existed, i don't hear ya'll complaining about Montana or Zao so ill listen until you think about what you are complaining about. An example of a ship that was a paper ship and actually was being built but cancelled was the Sovetsky Soyuz, A Soviet Battleship with 406mm guns and they even got to the testing of the guns. Just look around on google and you'll see the facts about the Russian paper ships. Don't just assume they are glorifying the Russian line, never assume things like that.

@TomsonPRD

4 жыл бұрын

I am well aware. But we've never ever seen an entire Branch where 89% of it rusted into dockyards or didn't even reach the laying down phase (and with Borodino coming the percentage will be even higher). Out of all nine ships only *ONE*, the T4 Gangut, actually went at sea. One. Out of Nine. Think about it, that's not the same. I'm not against paper ships, otherwise Yamato and Iowa would be the only T10-9 BBs, but this entire Soviet thing is just stupid.

@DaylightFan4449

4 жыл бұрын

im not even Italian and IM offended by the line

“Pure pleasure” pure pain more like. I’ve been trying them out in Public test and they really need buffing. Reload times are terrible overall and in the Genova it’s a joke and the sap shells are pretty useless except on DDs but hey reload is so slow they’ll kill you well before you can get a second shot off. And the smoke which follows you although a good idea just doesn’t last long enough to be effective and you don’t have enough of them. I was really looking forward to these Italian cruisers with a different play style but Wargaming have really messed up on this one which is sad.

@lunsmann

4 жыл бұрын

Seriously? On the ASIA server this week I have seen Italian cruisers topping the score sheet almost every game, myself included on a few occasions. Heck I even got a confederate award in the Trento last night. I'm by no means a good player, and that was just my second confederate since installing the game in May. Even the torpedoes are a surprise, getting hits and even killing DD's (that one was a laugh, the guy spoke up in chat that he had just paused to sip some tea). Those slow moving torps are like sea mines, seemingly appearing out of nowhere. I doubt we will be seeing any world records set for the cruiser classes, but mark my words, you will grow to hate fighting against them.

@AsttoScott

4 жыл бұрын

@@lunsmann Im on the Asian servers. That is bullshit.

This How to Video is as legit as Pineapple on Pizza

Buff the reload FFS, I enjoy playing with my pity montecuccoli, but It's insane to have a 14 seconds reload in a T5 cruiser.

So to conclude: - Reload is horrible - Ricochet angles are horrible - Usable DPM is horrible - Tech tree ships at T5 have 152mm guns not 203mm - Genova is garbage, worst ship in the game. WG response to the abysmal issues with the ships.... "git gud" 😒 I really like the idea and playstyle, they just simply are not good enough to even compete

@SeaRaptor

4 жыл бұрын

Genova is thoroughly mediocre, but she's far from the worst ship in the game. Go play stock Phoenix and see if you still believe that.

@italiancountryball865

4 жыл бұрын

@@SeaRaptor or the viribus getting ducked by every carrier in the game

@igoryst3049

4 жыл бұрын

And they have citadels similar to Omaha

guys seriously buff the reload. i know you want to make a slow reload high alpha type class, but the lack of fires really hurt the damage output potential of these ships, especially with the super long reload. also make the pen angles pre nerf.

these ships arent for me and i doubt if they are for anyone really, u get spotted almost at the maximum range you shoot at and they are paper. i quit after unlocking tier 6 most maps are open with you have to getting closer to engage and closer to getting 1 or 2 shotted from a bb that shoots at you from the other side of the map . the ammo is cool but that alone cant make a ship. you really need to consider rework their concealment of their firing range. and its not like you have hydro to counter DD's or a smoke that lasts longer like most ships do, its like a one legged man on an ass kicking contest.

All you need to know about SAP is that it has the weaknesses of both HE and AP and very few of the strengths

ZARA AP cannot pen the side of a Tier IX BB at 4km Italian Cruisers need BIG BUFFS and hydro acoustic search

@belladesa91

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe not hydro, but yes, buffs are needed badly

Dont matter how you play them SAP is useless so your stuck with AP, best play the British cruiser line :)

Buff the reload time on the main battery...even by like 3 or 4 seconds. Or give them a lesser version of the reload booster

They need a concealment buff! How should we get close to an enemy, hit him hard and run away, when you're spotted from the moon?

Just avoid Italian ship at the moment, WG made them bad

Excellent material! I truly love the ARMADA series and especially the ones longer than 90 seconds. Thanks WOWS!!!

> Starting from Tier 5. The Italian ships will have 203mm Guns. This is incorrect. The T5 Researchable Italina cruiser has 152mm guns.

@p.j7992

4 жыл бұрын

True the same doubt I have

@MrSCOTTtheSCOT

4 жыл бұрын

With a 203 reload time, such a horrible reload when you consider the Exeter has 15 sec on 203 and most 152 are around 7 to 9 secs

ANyone notcied that they are ONLY against bots in this video?...

This was my Favorite update of last year

Please wg buff the reload time of all Italian cruisers

How to play pasta cruiser 1- wait for buff

Had a thought what about adding a baked in reload boost for the SAP ammo keep reload same on AP , switch ammo based on AP

love the maneuverability on them but the moment anything even looks at them wrong. their engine and steering breaks. every single match ive used them in, first hit, there goes the engine. even with the upgrades to help prevent it.

Im still convinced that the velocity of the shells is slower than advertised they need to check it. The Italian line is very weak you simply cant carry in them or have a large impact on the game especially with the lets hug at the back meta the cv rework brought with it or the influx of recruiting station players that have come on boaed.

Unfortunately there needs to be a solid buff to pen angles, reload speed etc. unfortunately they’re VERY situational and feel like floating citadels especially at low-mid tiers. Not to mention the anemic damage towards the BB bois and girls. Additionally, tech line wise: doesn’t the tier V still have 152mm?

@epicnoob8635

4 жыл бұрын

It sounds like a Royal Navy cruiser with more reload time and no smoke camping capabilities.

@NDavis37F

4 жыл бұрын

Epic NOOB , unfortunately their AP isn’t as good and their torps are also kinda mleh. They one thing they really excel at is blapping DDs.... but they’ve got like 14-20 second reload on their guns. Double what the RN have.

@snakefh

4 жыл бұрын

@@epicnoob8635 At least with RN cruisers you have a fast reload and even if you only do 500 per salvo, is a consistent 500 damage every 3-5 seconds. In italian ships you do the same 700 damage every 20 seconds.

@epicnoob8635

4 жыл бұрын

@@snakefh That's my point.

How about a radar on Tier IX Brindisi and X Venezia? Historically, Italian ships were equipped with GUFO, the first Italian built radar. Roma was one of the many Italian warships which equipped it. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gufo_radar

Only have the tier V tech line but here is my opinion Good things so far: Very maneuverable. Can go around obstacles and islands with little issues. I love the speed on this thing. Decent torpedo range to surprise inattentive foes As always attention to detail in ship design. Good job animators! Full speed Smoke generators Things that need improvement: SAP reload time. Low tier so I know it shouldn't be all that impressed but if the whole line has high reload times the faction will suffer in the damage department. On average in a random battle in the mont I get between 16k to 35k in damage which sadly I can sometimes do 16k in my Albany since it can set fires. Since they cannot set fires I would make them have a faster reload time to compensate for that as say a battleship will not suffer the same against regular HE. Slightly better concealment when firing guns. Right now at least on the tier V the concealment like is somewhat near the gun range line, this result in the ships having to move away from the battle sooner than other ships and is more vulnerable to mass targeting. And it is fast and maneuverable but it is not a French cruiser by any means.

I like the idea of these glascannons.. the lack of range is an issue.. and they have no armor. Maybe the T10 will be a good armed ship in the end. i love the AP

I really wanted to like these ships and they look great on paper but they pop way too easily and SAP is underwhelming. I'll be avoiding them until they get a buff

"SAP shells are new to the game." And they should be removed as quickly as they were added. Give me my HE back.

@justinbiggs1005

4 жыл бұрын

No. He spam is already as bad as it is. Git Gud.

@juliaslavova9672

3 жыл бұрын

He badder the sap

@lolloblue9646

Ай бұрын

​@@justinbiggs1005and SAP on Italian cruisers was in place of AP, not HE.

1) Don’t play the Italian gourmet bread line. 2) Select the OP Russian counter part, and profit.

@conandude76

4 жыл бұрын

How blatent about it do they have to get before people really see it? If it aint russian, don't buy it, and you'll almost never be 'outshipped'. Period. Not even counting smolensk...

@belladesa91

4 жыл бұрын

Which basically it's our navy with stolen blueprints but affected by the famous Russian bias

The SAP shell would have been a brilliant idea if it was the British alternate ammo type. And the low speed of the Italian torps forces you to get close, making the longer range irrelevant.

@lolloblue9646

Ай бұрын

Slow torpedoes is especially ridiculous when Italian torps were pretty fast

"Very rarely bounce off" and 2 of 6 hits bounces on video :D Even u showing the SAP shells are weak.

How do DD's not get Dev Striked by Italian Cruisers?

i open around 24 containers and only got the t5 Montecuccoli its horrible, not getting any more containers horrible RNG to get any of those ships.

Meanwhile in Azur lane.. Zara Bacame the pasta

How to. Stay at long range and lose Karma faster than your health pool evaporates when shot by a BB. Angle away and save your smoke for retreats. Torps are used to annoy team mates/go pink. Abandon hope of damaging anything angled against you or RU BBs. Wish you were playing a French cruiser instead. That cover it?

I am gonna wait with playing these cruisers until I get the new legendary Luigi captain. Then I can level both the line and him at the same time.

I was expecting Flamu screaming for 7 mins about Pizza cruisers

WG makes these ship sounds good.. then you start playing, then your like WTF, you go back to this video, and your like what am I doing wrong.. then you realize.. the ships suck.. not you.

German ship-line rework next?

1, Avoid getting shot at. 2, Occasionally try to shoot something (and really hope you hit or you'll be waiting ages to reload 3, See 1.... 4, See 1. Disagree with Vigilance - better to spend it on torp acceleration (they're so slow!) and rudder shift much more useful than acceleration. Not really sure what radio location is for either - pushing in in these ships is suicidal. It's not that you can't play them, just that it's not very fun - everything they do the French or Japanese do better. Good for a challenge, not sure I'm finding them fun yet though (only done T5 and T7 though).

Aim for lightly armoured sections like the... magazines? Really?

@GriseWeisshark

3 жыл бұрын

I facepalmed at that part.

remove SAP.

1:18 he just said that the bounce angel for the SAP shells is 80 degrees right? That might just made them worth a try.

@MarsRedPlanet1914

4 жыл бұрын

80 is just on the T10 ship

even DDs bounce off SAP ..... Why we need to use acceleration upgrade on a cruiser that has to be on the move ??!!!!

@iPoTeNcYy

4 жыл бұрын

probably because when you're shifting to avoid enemy fire, you lose speed and having acceleration buffs will make sure you get your speed back quicker so you're not a slower target.

You guys don’t know what you’re missing these thing are fast and have powerful gund but I do wish they would add battleships

@teosperini

3 жыл бұрын

Le stanno mettendo, la corazzata Dante Alighieri è in accesso anticipato, e per il suo livello è una bomba

Why do i not see them in my game on ps4???

Why the Italian cruiser aren't in the PlayStation edition of this game

Mzybe on higher tiers SAP works like on this film, buy when i play trento i have a lot of dings, from cruisers too not only from bbs

@Panocek

4 жыл бұрын

It has more to do with plenty of midtier BBs having armor all around, while from tier 7 onwards only glorious russian BB master race and cheap german knockoffs have such feature. Against ships with all-or-nothing armor layout, SAP can be disturbingly effective when you land them on "nothing" parts.

Coming to console at all?

3:12 another feature is thier consumables: in addition to repair party (WOW none has that ) you can have scout plane or fighter . WOW WO W WO W another exclusive! IS THIS A JOKE ? WG DO YOU REALLY THINK WE ARE STUPID?

While I appreciate the effort in bringing us these videos, but they will not make Italian cruisers good or even decent. The Amalfi on Tier 8 not having a heal, not having hydro, missing radar and being a very very light cruiser, is just bad. Cruisers with these traits usually sit behind islands or in stationary long lasting smoke screens but not the Italians (and Germans...). They have flat trajectories that force them into the open, but while British cruisers got smoke and Germans have at least some protection, Italaians got nothing. Concealment and not using your guns is your best bet on survival and you will have a hard time marketing thsese things to the players.

I have 1 tip , you don’t

@juliaslavova9672

3 жыл бұрын

Shut up

Fenomenal

Nice ad. In reality most T5 Italian CAs parameters need to be increased to T5 average levels: DPM (by reducing the rate of fire a couple of seconds), range (by a km), rudder shift, reducing the citadel because pretty much every BB AP hit from ANY angle gets a citadel.

In the future I wish that aircraft carrier Shinano would be there and I 400 japanese submarine

People who liked the video are either WG staff or people that haven't played the pasta ships yet. This is the worst line ever released in WOWs. Period. The SAP is pathetic, the guns are mediocre, the armor is quite bad, the reload is terrible etc. Garbage ships and a line to be skipped unless they buff them A LOT which could happen after 5-6 updates judging by the speed of the re-balancing so far.

Just don’t... you are a disadvantage to your team by doing so

If you want to experience 8 citadels in the first 2 mins of the game this is definitely the ship for you

Fair warning, these are my opinions after playing the T5-T7 (since the T8 drop chance was made to be 0.001% as a joke) I wouldn't play these at any point unless absolutely necessary to complete a mission while grinding my teeth... take it with a grain of salt. Lets see... How to play your new Italian mistake (erm...) cruiser: First lets look at the aspects of your new researchable Italian cruiser 1) Total lack of DPS () 2) SAP shells with more DMG than AP, but 100% lackluster in performance (but hey you can shoot DDs right?!) 3) AP shells that shatter, ricochet, bounce off of BB and Cruiser armor but citadel for 4k dmg@ about 3-6km from target (203mm guns right? WTF!!!) 4) Battleship reload times on a cruiser (see point 1 for more details. What were you people thinking?!!) 5) Paper thin armor that makes an Atlanta laugh at you, DDs spit on you, and BBs love you (Awesome! Ever been citadeled by an Icarus in a T7 cruiser from any other line?) 6) Total lack of support consumables (good luck finding those DDs, see point 2. GOOD LUCK BUDDY!) 7) Detactability at range of torps (we'll come back to this) 8) 12km torps, slow speed, detected at long range (and sure enough, range is under or just at detectability, see point 7) 9) Fighter or Spotter plane (see point 10) 10) AA deadzone where you can't hit a thing, but you sure can't get away (Maybe use that awesome smoke?) 11) Smoke where you can roll full speed (Awesome if it lasted long enough to get out of range of the BB that spotted you before you popped smoke) Now lets look at how you play: 1) Sink by fire after being spotted 2) Sink by massive inc DPS as you are a pinata seen for miles 3) Sink by torps you couldn't see, from the DD you tried to chase into smoke without sonar 4) Sink by massive dmg, while spotted trying to chase the DD into smoke because SAP rouns are awesome against DDs 5) Sink because you came up broadside to an atlanta and his AP does more than yours (great armor there) 6) Sink because a plane keeps circling you, but you can't shoot it making you a pinata 7) Sink after popping smoke because it ran out before you could get out of range of that BB you wanted to use SAP rounds on because it "LOOKS" like that bit of his bow isn't saturated 8) Sink because this boat sux 9) And Finally, get kills by holding fire until your teammates have them down to 1-2k hp and snap that stuff up like a scavenger, then sink because you were spotted

Genova stats 8 battles: WR 100%, average frags 3, average damage 70,000. Its only 8 battles but that's not bad. As much as they seem built to fail I do great with them.

These ships aren't entirely garbage, but their stats are insanely padded in a negative way. Gotta' lower that Main Battery reload to 15 secs stock. Smoke CD needs to be lowered considerably. Torps should do 15-16K dmg at least. It's a triple launcher, and they're slow AF FFS. But honestly the reload change alone would probably put them in a way better place and compensate for the lack of fires.

Hmmmmm wg done your home work here bc from taranto (teir 3) you got torps

6:19 It was at this moment that Nathan knew he fked up

This ship really pleased me 😃😃😃

*don't. Safe some time and play another nation or entire game.

how about instead of a "How to play" these ships video, you make them not crappy? reload is 15 seconds on a T6 with 8 guns; best concealment on it is 12.7km AND your smoke takes over 2 minutes to come back up after like a 25 second puff AND your bloom in smoke is still over 9-10km and you have no HE. DO NOT play these cruisers unless you are ready for a painful grind; ESPECIALLY in +2 matchmaking.

Wow. You are rellay making these ships sound better then they are 😂

so this is how you pizza the medium italian girls

Italian snoozers

Everybody gangsta until the Italians made warships

What ever, you still get firebombed by the golden shower of HE every battle.

Give Roma those semi-AP shells. Her guns are actually big enough that they'd be useful.

@lolloblue9646

Ай бұрын

The Littorio class actually lacked HE, and Italian cruisers and destroyers had an AP shell that was more akin to other countries' SAP. In other words, they should have SAP and HE

Once took 10,000hp off a cruiser with a Trento with the sap shells.

The short answer to "Italian Cruiser: How To, is Don't play them. The Italian Navy, AKA the ships that got shafted by Russian Bias.

Superstructure or ends yeah yeah we get it

Apparently even WG didn't want to play those ships in randoms against real players and made a bot-stomp video playing CoOp instead.

Tier 9 and 10 might be useful but before that they are meh. Until they get big guns sap doesnt pen much

So here's the thing that came to my mind, even the SAP ammo can't Citadel any ship. So what's the purpose of not giving them still s fire Chance?

@Starkillerscat

4 жыл бұрын

Sap can cit tho

@itsmethet894

4 жыл бұрын

@@Starkillerscat but how? There is no armour thickness that SAP can pass to enter the citadel

@Starkillerscat

4 жыл бұрын

outward citadel? Like Minotaur, Worecester, Moskva, Smolensk...

The low tier Italian CA's are terrible, but Trento and up its pretty decent.