This is fellowship. Deeper into the things of the journey. Moving and changing. Humility to acknowledge the need for growth and change. Courage to ask ourselves honest questions and demand honest answers of ourselves. 😊

This is exactly what I have been going through and processing. I was specifically looking for videos such as this and God provided. Thank you so much for this conversation..I agree with every thing that has been said.

Thank you so much for this conversation! I really needed it & I will be listening again for more of the depth that I know I missed today.

Thank you!! You verbalized what's been in my heart!

Wow, this is what I so wanted discussed,and it’s simplicity is so right on, to understand. Thanks so much for doing this video., will be looking forward to the next.❤

Mikaela, this is Kathleen Overby. Craig and I were riveted. This was so tender and inviting and seven kinds of brilliant all the while Inviting others to think and process in this safe place you created. Your hospitality of spirit is unique and brilliant. I hope it gives those dealing with cognitive dissonance, grief, sorrow, lament, sadness and loss - comfort and aids their healing. I hope you hear the applause of heaven! I'm standing in the balcony section cheering you on! #happythankyoumoreplease (And hit the like button folks. This deserves recognition.)

Come on guys. 2.4K view and only 95 likes. Hit that like button. When you do it puts it higher in KZread’s algorithm and more will see this. It’s a great interview. Movement- ministry- monument. Wow great description. Sums up a lot

Great discussion! I especially love what was mentioned about the nature and character of God. I’m at a place now where if I can’t find it in Jesus, it’s simply not God.

Beautiful video! Joy & Sorrow interwoven definitely has new meaning. All on a journey. Alone, yet together.

So beautiful, Mikaela. "It's okay .." Thank you so much for this. ❤

This is so good. I love the explanation of how abuse happens... at the point where religion and the Gospel blend. Minute 34:20. Power is given up and power is taken and a false Gospel is portrayed and trusted in.

Wow, this was long but SO HELPFUL! I was able to recognize myself in the different phases you discussed, but after hearing it from an analytical/physcological perspective, I can see that the process I went through was actually "the right way" to process what at first felt like my world falling apart. I feel like I've reached the "acceptance" stage, but I wonder if you could address where I find myself now, as an ex 2x2er: Is it necessary to attend church? If every religion is flawed and potentially harmful, and if God wants me to have a relationship with him (not necessarily a form of worship), why can't I do that without belonging to "a community"? It seems like the safer route. My trust in any man other than Jesus has been shattered.

Really appreciate hearing from Jeremy as well!

Thank u, thank u, thank u!

So very succinct and articulate. A rare insight into the heart of God. I went through all the stages all by my lonesome, wish I could’ve watched this seven years ago. My wife asked for a divorced after 35 years. Since I never agreed with the views on divorce, it gave me an excuse to break away. I now look at that as a gift, because my freedom to love as God wants me to love has increased exponentially. I now tell my friends in the truth that are struggling, that there may come a time when things become clear.

Thank -you both for just straightening my head and heart out with at least a starting point so that I can get all this past garbage out of my head and heart and begin to heal and establish a relationship with God that my heart is starving for. I hope that I can become friends with both of you in the future. And if I understood you friend Makala he is in Lincoln Nebraska which is where you and your husband live?!!!

Hebrews 13:7 ESV Remember your leaders, those who spoke to you the word of God. Consider the outcome of their way of life, and imitate their faith. I also love this verse in thinking about Christian leaders. ..." Consider the outcome of their way of life..."

The ONLY connection to God is through Jesus. Do not confuse the fruits of the spirit, that comes from our relationship with Jesus, with requirements on how we need to live. That blending brings judgement. That blending confuses religion. There are lots of people with a great relationship with Jesus in most religions. Work to not hate and judge. Stay in the gospel, in the word. Love our neighbor. Pray often. Thank you for this discussion.