It's EVEN BETTER now...【Fighting Commander OCTA】
Hori's previous budget friendly "Fighting Commander" ended up being one of the most popular pad controllers for fighting games on PS4/Xbox/Switch and now for PC, Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S we have a controller that promises to improve on basically every single aspect of the hit original! Enter the HORI Fighting Commander OCTA. It's everything you hoped the sequel would be and so much more...
Affiliate links
Get the Hori Fighting Commander Here→amzn.to/3u7Rou4
Get the Mayflash Magic NS here→:amzn.to/32XB6YN
Thanks to HORI for providing the product for the purposes of making this video. I was not instructed to say anything specific and all opinions expressed are my own.
★NihongoGamer Clips Channel➡️ • BL...Together...on Str...
★Twitter➡️ / nihongogamer
★Twitch➡️ / nihongogamer
★Discord➡️ / discord
★COUPON CODE: Want 5% off the Arcade Stick used in many of my videos (the Victrix Pro FS)? Use discount code: NIHONGOGAMER at www.victrixpro...
*This is an affiliate code so you get a discount and I get a commission! :) Code works for Victrix Pro AF headset too!*
0:00 start
0:07 Introduction
1:01 Features of the Octa
2:20 Unboxing
2:48 Micro Switch Buttons
3:28 D-Pad first impressions
4:36 Analog Stick Test
6:13 Shoulder Buttons and Layout
8:15 Custom Profiles (Hori Settings App)
8:56 Re-mapping buttons
9:29 Duplicate Input Button Mapping test
10:34 Adjustable D-pad Input Sensitivity
11:43 D-Pad Test (SFV)
12:00 Checking for Missed Inputs
12:30 Hadoken Input
13:04 Shoryuken Input
13:13 Double QCF Input
13:20 D-Pad Shape Comparison
14:22 Analog Stick Test (SFV)
15:36 D-Pad Test (Charge Character)
15:55 Analog Stick Test (Charge Character)
17:00 D-Pad Test (Grappler)
17:47 Analog Stick Test (Grappler)
18:50 D-Pad Test (Half-Circle Input)
19:03 Pad Grip Shape Comparison
20:09 Micro Switch Button Feel
21:13 Thoughts on Pad Grip Shape
22:15 Instant Air Dash (DBFZ)
22:55 Instant Air Dash (BBTag)
23:28 Combo Test (BBTag)
23:54 Micro Switch vs. Membrane Buttons
24:41 Precise D-Pad Inputs (UNIclr)
25:40 Precise Analog Stick Inputs (UNIclr)
26:42 QCF Input Quirk on Analog Stick
27:12 Final Impressions
Пікірлер: 667
Over 25 years later and companies are still trying to remake the Saturn controller
@akumasshadowww2537
3 жыл бұрын
Haha
@778899mike
3 жыл бұрын
Sega was ahead of its time.
@ttak82
3 жыл бұрын
And still few have made a compelling buy due to the sheer lack of buttons. This one however is great, as was the hori pad before it.
@DeisFortuna
3 жыл бұрын
The Saturn pad's layout is the most versatile controller layout for the vast majority of 2D games, not just fighting games. Like, how many 2D games are out there don't have a control scheme that could easily be mapped onto 6 face buttons + L and R without changing the gameplay experience all that much? Not a lot, that's for sure.
@dlib89
3 жыл бұрын
In case my comment sounded a bit ironic, I do own a working Saturn to this day. Got a Play Sega controller to play on my pc ages agos and I love it. Im considering to obtain the bluetooth one released not so long ago, to play wirelessly on my Sat.
Updated 4/26/2021: (Device Manager 1.0.40) - Settings are stored to the controller. Just tried on my 2nd pc which doesn't have device manager installed and profiles are intact. - you can’t select ABXY for remapping BUT if u select one of the remappable buttons and assign them an ABXY function then the two buttons will be swapped and the official ABXY buttons will effectively be remapped. Still not possible to duplicate inputs. - Using the above swapping method you can swap the d-pad cardinals with any swappable button (so this excludes ABXY) - Buttons can only be swapped from their original position. If you swap the right shoulder button from LB to RB (previously a face button), and then you change the RB face button (currently LB) to LS click, then instead of getting LB on the left shoulder, you get RB on the left shoulder. Summary: Remapping buttons swaps with the factory labelled function, not the currently assigned software function. - it doesn’t appear possible to disable to the analog stick - Left analog stick click can be assigned to LS click or RS click but cannot be disabled
@4boni729
3 жыл бұрын
hey can you do a review of the xboomer? its on my channel and turns a mouse to a fightstick :)
@yareyaredaze588
3 жыл бұрын
hey what's your favourite fighting game that you played in 2020
It sounds like a small thing, but I really appreciate that you notice and talk about the fact that there's no pre-travel on the buttons. That travel before click/actuation drives me crazy on the Razer controllers.
The Dpad is the most important factor of a controller for fighting games. You want every input to be registered and you also want the best feedback from the controller as possible to negate any human error and to know where you pressed. Thats all that matters.
Octogonal gate on the stick is what sold me on this.
@mandubabulam
3 жыл бұрын
thats super cool!! ive been using a ds3 for like 9 years but i think ill be switching, i still sometimes think im holding db but im pressing b, etc
@johnbuscher
3 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons the GC layout works so well, actually.
@joaomarcoscosta4647
3 жыл бұрын
@@johnbuscher Man, I miss the GC analog stick so much...
My main issue with regular FC pad was the 'plus' d-pad where I could miss diagonal inputs or with a slightest accidental finger motion go from down-back do one or the other without any intention to do so, It's nice to see they are using circular d-pad for a new pad.
@m4rcin847
10 ай бұрын
Dpad is the exact reason why this gamepad is trash compared to previous one.
@sharkpyro93
10 ай бұрын
@@m4rcin847 why?
@RalfsBalodis
9 ай бұрын
I also find the d pad not excelent. It is usable, but it is easy to miss the input if you press to lighty. Even if the sensitivity is at max. Also, it is easy to miss the diagonal imput if you are just a hair off. Takes time to get used to the d pad. D-pad wise the Betop controller is better, in my opinion.
Dude this is what I love about your reviews. No other KZreadr describe the amount of details as you do. It almost feels like we're holding the controller ourselves. Fantastic work!
@lunchfidgets6498
2 жыл бұрын
This is the only KZread channel that talks about controller! He’s very good at it.
@callofmetals24
Жыл бұрын
Tbf... It's paid did you see the disclaimer
@daviddamasceno6063
Жыл бұрын
@@callofmetals24 He does that in pretty much all of his reviews. Just watch them and you'll see.
@tylerromero
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same exact thing it reminds me of talking to my friends about how the controller works when we used to play hours and hours of fighting games together 😢
So your question about how people dash with analog.. I once asked Nuckledu in a stream how he plays on pad and he said he uses analog for guile / charge characters but then he dashes with the d-pad! So he jumps between analog and the d-pad I think it’s so cool!! Really utilising all of the functions of a controller and taking it to the next level
@NihongoGamer
3 жыл бұрын
Very impressive! Controller use is constantly evolving. Love to see it!
@rexflores8461
3 жыл бұрын
That's what I do when I play zangief.
@Zuhri69
3 жыл бұрын
Same with me. Got my stick broker from playing kof too much, used a controller, still managed to have a good fight and learned all sort of nonsense to keep up with the fight demand. Now that controller is broken as well, lol.
@C.A.1247
3 жыл бұрын
Plus one here… I always used the analog stick on my controller… Grew up with it and couldn’t imagine doing a dp motion on a dpad (especially with the dpad on the dual shock 4)… Only downside: I rarely dashed, because dashing with an analog stick is a pain… Just recently, like a month or so, I got used to dashing with the dpad while still using the analog stick for everything else… Works well for me! I still want the Octa for playstation though, just to test, if the octagonal analog stick gives more precision…
@SwirlEP
2 жыл бұрын
@@rexflores8461 Ditto. Stick when doing 360s, switch back to pad when doing other stuff.
literally looked earlier today to see if this exact video existed, thanks NG
You can take my thigh-top controller from me when you pry its lever from my cold dead hands.
@clairemadeinheaven
3 жыл бұрын
remind me! 1 week
@DeisFortuna
3 жыл бұрын
@@clairemadeinheaven No.
pressure sensitive buttons are a little known feature of the og xbox controller that almost no developer ever used its kinda cool that hori has revived it in a way on a modern controller and implemented in a way that doesn't make you want to pull your hair out. as far as I can remember only doa 3 used this feature I think they dropped the pressure sensitive combos in doa ultimate.
@cronasan6931
3 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize the DukeBox did this too I always remembered this on the PS2 more definitively because MGS3 had it as a core gameplay feature and between how big of a PS series MGS is and how big of a deal that game especially was I always thought of that and assumed other PS2 games did but now I wanna research to see if there really is a major minority of devolpers who even bothered
That D-pad sensitivity tuning is very, very interesting. Any idea if the settings for that are stored in pad firmware, or in the configuration software?
@baconatorrodriguez4651
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@imohbalu
2 жыл бұрын
they need to add macros to these 6 buttons pads as well. the macros can be on the back or any other button. just asking the SOCD in Hori Octa if you press back+forward= forward ? is last win command or neutral ?
Your videos have come a long way man been watching you for years
I pre-ordered mine months ago but it releases in 7 days! Can't wait to receive mine! Also great video like always! :)
My guess as to why they chose to use membrane switches for the D-Pad on the FC Octa is simply because microswitches don’t have pressure-sensitive “analog” response. The DualShock 2, Sixaxis, and DualShock 3 controllers all had pressure-sensitive D-Pads and buttons (most devs chose not to use the feature, though, BUT SHOULD HAVE). I’m happy that Hori used Membrane switches for the D-Pad, since the Razor Raion (thanks for your informative review, by the way) kinda didn’t do it right with microswitches. I have an idea how to fix the Raion’s “issue” but I don’t go that deep into modding my controllers. I usually throw my money at problems like this. 😆
This is by far the best controller review video I've seen. You demonstrate exactly what we need to know and timestamp it into chapters. Dude.
Two months later and I'm looking at how bad reviews on Amazon this pad has. Lots of people showing photos of broken triggers and shoulder buttons and most people complaining how bad the D-pad is. Looks like this might not be as good Fighting Commander.
@MisterDudeydan77
3 жыл бұрын
yeh it looks nice but the durability is a problem for sure
@bunbunkitten
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning! Durability is kind of damn important.
@littleggg9050
3 жыл бұрын
Damn that's a major turn off for me. Doesn't matter how cool it is, aint wasting $ every 3 months getting a new gamepad
@souljastation5463
3 жыл бұрын
I got the older version and the only thing I don't like it's the D-PAD, it's much inferior to the DS4 pad (which is probably the best d-pad ever made). This new one looks exactly like the infamous Xbox 360 controller d-pad and this was certainly not a wise move by hori, but still I'm curious to try how it feels.
@cliffbunny5759
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had one of the shoulder triggers break off after a little over a month. The dpad also feels a little loose, though I wouldn't swear to that one. Even before that, I wasn't a massive fan of the dpad design, as it's a little prone to dropping diagonals. I used my previous FC for years and it was a real trooper - it was the cable, rather than the pad, that wore out in the end. The octa feels like a massive downgrade.
Because the d-pad now has diagonal pieces for better quarter and half circle motions, Hori gives you the option to make the diagonals harder to press with the software, so you can have a dpad that feels like the standard regular plus sign whenever you desire. It would come in handy in games like Super Contra, where bad dpads always make you aim downwards and run instead of crouching, because you are pressing the diagonals by mistake when you just mean to press down to crouch.
@ADreamingTraveler
Жыл бұрын
They updated and changed the dpad since then? If they did then I think I'll buy it but I can't find any info on it
@sunrisesunset1734
Жыл бұрын
@@ADreamingTravelerNothing seemed to be wrong with this d-pad to begin with.
Hori has ALWAYS made excellent alternatives to the official controllers going all the way back to the earliest retro consoles. I hope Hori fixed the issue with the original fighting commander where the d-pad lost sensitivity over time.
@Kingepticon
3 жыл бұрын
My diagonals are so hard to get on mine. Gotta really press down hard af.
@jaylaidlaw7976
2 жыл бұрын
Buy a hori mini controller and swap the membranes they are like 10 -15 bucks
This is the first video I've ever seen of yours. But I've had you in my ear gushing while I bought both this controller and SF6. So thanks man.
Ordered this for a friend after seeing your video and he's loving it. Thanks for putting out great stuff dude.🤙
Awesome! My PS4 fight commander gave up the ghost ages ago. They probably went with the membrane for the sensitivity options
I've been waiting for this to come out since it was announced. Delays from Jan to March and then april (more like may). I appreciate the review and very well done.
The octo-gate stick added on is what really made me want to upgrade from the older hori fighting commander pro. Stick and clicky buttons are awesome, the shoulder buttons are nicer too. Dpad was kinda disappointing though, I liked the + shaped one much more to the round blob and find it harder to be accurate with. That being said the stiff short throw octo stick is good enough I don't find myself wanting to use a dpad as much. You can adjust the sensitivity but I'm unable to download anything from the microsoft store and hori doesn't distribute the software anywhere else unfortunately so no configuration for me.
Gonna have to buy one of these, I have some of the older, Saturn-clone pads from Hori, but the buttons became mushy too quickly for my taste. Microswitches should (hopefully) be consistent for longer.
@imohbalu
2 жыл бұрын
they need to add macros to these 6 buttons pads as well. the macros can be on the back or any other button. just asking the SOCD in Hori Octa if you press back+forward= forward ? is last win command or neutral ?
@imohbalu
2 жыл бұрын
Hi dear if you press back+forward= forward or neutral ¿ i want to know if I map the shoulder buttons to directions like back and front what will happen if I press back and then front¿ is it last win or neutral ¿
Well, my preorder's in. Thanks for the review. Hori's the undisputed champ now.
So you have a green sheet on your legs to make the cut out of hand and pad? That's so thoughtful!
@NihongoGamer
3 жыл бұрын
I used a pink t-shirt so that the green of the A button wouldn’t vanish :)
The only thing i've always thought was missing from the original fighting commander was a circular dpad and trigger buttons that aren't absolute trash. I'm very tempted to get this controller even though i quit SF5 like half a year ago.
@Kingepticon
3 жыл бұрын
You can use it for Strive in 6 weeks. Probably what I'm gonna do although I'd rather have a PS4/5 version.
@Coral732
3 жыл бұрын
@@Kingepticon I'm only excited for the league fighting game right now. Gotta wait a long time for that though.
Your videos are always thorough. Great Job!
Now, for those who are 50-50 about this controller, get it. Don't listen to other people. I'm using it and it feels great (atleast coming from XB1 controller user). I never have a fighting pad like previous HORI FC or the others, so this is my first one but this is worth the price. My original XB1 controller got drift so I thought to try to replace it with this, why not. So I like about the 6 face buttons feel clicky like mouse on pc but better, the octagate joystick good, the bumper/trigger buttons feel good too, D-pad is OK, not necessarily mushy because of not having mechanical switch or anything else but just OK (atleast I don't have to play with Xbox's clicky D-Pad no more). I understand that why people complaint about it, maybe because everyone have another controllers before they got the HORI Octa. But for me who is the first timer having a fightpad, I like it. Now I just hope it survive long enough in my possession (I REALLY HOPE..lol). Don't hesitate just it get yourself, thats all. p/s : not sure about my English tho.. hope you guys understand :)
@ByCharliOne
3 жыл бұрын
How is it going after 2 web? Still ok?
22:58 in DBFZ you can also instant air dash pressing forward + S + H (S + H is also the super dash input so you can do it with the trigger as well)
I'm excited more controllers with mechanical switches are coming to market.
@imohbalu
2 жыл бұрын
they need to add macros to these 6 buttons pads as well. the macros can be on the back or any other button. just asking the SOCD in Hori Octa if you press back+forward= forward ? is last win command or neutral ?
I play a lot of fighting games with an 8bitdo m30. It is my prefered layout and it feels good. Only problem is that there is no pivot in the dpad. Which is strange since every other 8bitdo controller does. For those who don't know, a pivot makes a dpad basically like a 4 way seesaw. This is important since it stops the dpad from pressing all directions at once. Games are designed to read at most 2 directions. Those being diagonals. Without a pivot, it can be easier to get some misread inputs
@mangoesbbq5345
Жыл бұрын
so that's why it felt off when I used it thanks for sharing 👍
Great review. Do you find the analogy stick gets in your way when using the D pad?
You sound a bit like James Acaster in the tone of your voice from time to time. It is a compliment.
Using this controller for a week. And I can this is great, but D-pad is a little small, and It has strange sensitivity, you can adjust sens on diagonals, but for me, it works like 1) if you make the diagonal less sensitive it skips it when you roll, so you need to press harder 2) if you make it more sensitive - a little wiggle when you press down or forward and it registers as diagonal. you have to be very precise with your inputs when you using this controller
the hori commander is nice, but personally the build quality just wasnt there so I got a stick and learning to play with it, might get an octa sometime in the future as i like the pad for some inputs more
Very good in depth video! Good love an updated quick review, since there are SO many bad reviews on the web, specifically about dpad and shoulders breaking ridiculously often…! Thanks!
Hey I was just wondering - Could you please try doing some Korean backdashes in Tekken 7 with the d pad and let me know how it feels ?
Cool, the d-pad sensitivity is very similar to the Paradise Magenta Analog to Digital Programmable Joystick lever software
Been waiting for this controller to launch for so long, insanely hyped!!
Amazing review man. I have no doubt that this is a great pad. Definitely going to upgrade from my regular fighting commander. Thanks a bunch.
I'm torn between this gamepad and the Xbox controller (9th generation) for Street Fighter 6. I've heard from many people that the Hori Octa has poor quality and durability, and that after a few months of use, it starts to have incorrect inputs on the D-pad. I don't have ambitions of becoming a professional, but I don't want the equipment to limit me either. If I choose Hori, will I see a noticeable improvement in Street Fighter?
the stick is like a wii nunchuk? i mean can you feel the 8 directions without touching the edge?
I have pretty much every 6-button pad ever, so I'm definitely giving this a shot haha. I never quite felt like I wanted to compete with the old Fighting Commanders (typically I used the closest things to actual Saturn controllers), but this sounds very interesting for me to at least try. Ordering it right now. Slightly worried that I may should wait until PS5/Switch versions...but can't hurt to at least support their effort.
@schierke
Жыл бұрын
Old comment ik but what pads do you recommend? Im personally on stick but my friend wants to get a pad as he wants to move away from the dual shock/sense and I was wondering what the general consensus for a great pad is
@purifyws
Жыл бұрын
@@schierke There's not much of a general consensus besides a lot of people using Dualshock PS3/4/5 pads, but personally the 6-button pad I use for PS4 is the PowerA Fusion Fightpad and for PC + whenever else possible, I use a Retro-bit USB Saturn pad. The PowerA is about $40 and the Saturn USB is $20. You can get the latter in wired or wireless versions
Thanks for the review ! Been trying to find a new pad to buy, guess imma wait for the PS Ver of this pad.
The Retrobit Saturn controller if it doesn't skip and lag would have been the best fighting gamepad on the market.
Bro, you're my absolute hero. People are always telling me I'm obsessed with controllers lol then I find your channel and can't figure how I have gone so long without it 🔥
A controller with a membrane d-pad and buttons with micro-switches. Those are good news, because micro-switches are good for buttons but NOT for d-pads. Let's see when they release a PS and Switch version of it.
I hope the ps4/ps5 version has a touch pad button of some kind this time around, I love my commander for Tekken, but training mode is a pain without the touch pad button.
I have this pre-ordered months ago. I hope they make this for PS4/PS5. I'll be using this on PC mostly.
@JLoza_
3 жыл бұрын
I had it to... today I will return it, a total disappointment with this gamepad :(
Ive been waiting for a good review for this controller. Thanks great content 👍 You didnt mention the headphone jack that was not there on the original though.
this are the kind of In-depth videos that I wanna find about EVERY controller!! so nice to see this for a change, and even better, you use the controller on pc, no one does an extensive test of a controller on pc :( they usually stick to the console side and that's it :( Also, a nice idea it would be that the Left Stick button could be a switch that changes the function of the stick, with a press it could be the Left Stick and with another the Right Stick, to compensate that it's missing for some games, since you have already 2 LSB they could easily add that function to the software or to the controller itself with a software update
I'm glad you reviewed this controller i ordered it not to long ago. I bought it for the d-pad and because i wanted micro switches. But I don't like what that what are suppose to be LT &L B are LS & RS. If you remap the left shoulder buttons to LB & LT and the right shoulder buttons to RB & RT will that affect the face buttons that are labeled RB & RT and the button you get from pressing down the actual analog stick?
I like how at 2:26, even though it isn't an arcade stick box, you can still see the strange attraction between the box and his head.
I'm trying to decide on whether I get this controller or the Razor Raion for SF6. I like the fact that it had a analog stick, the Razor one doesn't.
@MasterShake
Жыл бұрын
i use this for SF6 been very satisfied so far!
I've been complaining about this controller not knowing about the adjustable sensitivity for the dpad. Soon as I'm home I'm fooling around with it, cause as of right now I hate it.
I've had two of these things. The D-pads quickly become defective and start missing inputs.
@davide_notaro
2 жыл бұрын
even with firmware updates?
@damianatwood9298
2 жыл бұрын
@@davide_notaro I don't think its a firmware issue. They just seem poorly built.
Hori did a similar pad for the PS3, but the thumbstick was also on microswitches and was all clicky. It was really cool.
There's the PS4/PS5 version coming in August. Anyway, for my profiles, I'll be assigning buttons as the following-- Profile 1 - default Profile 2 -- _Front_ X, Y, LB (white) A, B, RB (black) _Shoulders (viewed from the top, face buttons facing downward)_ LT, RT LB, RB Profile 3 -- Same as Profile 2, but change the following shoulder buttons - LT RT LS RS Profile 4 -- Same as Profile 3, but change the following shoulder buttons - LS RS LT RT
That’s pretty cool! Thanks for the review. I mainly use stick but I wouldn’t mind getting one of these for the experience.
Thank you for the thorough review, I'm probably going to pick this up soon
Can you try the original new Xbox series X controller and do a review for it just like that? I think you’ll find it a pleasant experience since it had been updated!
@Oridginale24
3 жыл бұрын
How’s the d-pad on the Series X controller? Do you have great control going from left to right or down to up? How are the diagonals?
@NihongoGamer
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting! I hadn’t thought to try it but now I’m curious!
@AtomLabX
3 жыл бұрын
@@Oridginale24 They're spot on, they went from the mushy feeling to a tactical feeling. I like 3D fighting games, and I use Rachel from DOA6 (she is a half-charge character) which they're really hard to work with, and I have won 50 wins in a row so far with her, and the reason is simple, the inputs are spot on. I own a fight stick OG xbox controller HitBoX MixBoX Etoki Korean Style Stick. Yet the new box controller is my way of playing above all those options because the new D-Pad is a joy to work with. One Issue we had in the past as box players the input for the box controllers is high 6MS (which is high in the ream of controllers) because they made it so it can work on Xbox and PC and PlayStation, and Microsoft knew this is wrong. The new one, Only Works with PC and XBOX (and it has a way faster input) compared to the other one, now I have not measured that, and I did a review of the new XBOX and the controller on my channel, you can check it out, but I have not measured the input lag, yet from me using it, I'm having a joy playing DBZ FighterZ and DOA6. I'm excited to see @NihongoGamer give it a go because I think he will love it, and many people should know that the new controller is not just a new shell, with an extra button, but sadly Xbox controller doesn't get the love it needs.
People bout to come back to this video after seeing Chikurin's Lili win EVO JP.
"people who play on analog stick, how do you dash?" by jumping 🙃 but seriously, over time i trained myself to reposition my thumb on the opposite direction of where i want to dash and just push against it. analog can be wonky like that sometimes, but it's easier to wrap my head around for 2D fighting games and motion inputs; but i still prefer the D-pad for 3D fighters because that's a closer mimic to understanding the ground beneath your feet
Thanks for this awesome review, after checking so many other controllers, I'm sold on this one!
mine arrived today, and I am in absolute awe of how comfortable it is and how easy to use and precise the stick feels, I've been a pad player my whole life and while I loved the button layout of a stick, I could not get used to, well, the stick itself, and this controller feels like I'm having the best of both worlds, I'm just amazed at how perfect this controller worked out for me, completely and absolutely recommend it
@m.richards6947
3 жыл бұрын
How well does the dpad work on diagonal movements?
Ever since I played the Strive beta I have wanted to have a dedicated dash button in all my fighting games.
@cronasan6931
3 жыл бұрын
As satisfying as pulling off IADs in DBFZ was I agree I don't see how it's so hard MvC did it just by making you press any two buttons together and wave dashing in those games feels hella satisfying
Nice video! And I think the membrane approach is a good thing for the dpad. I have a feeling you would have the same problems as you did on the Razer Raion fightpad if Hori had went a similar tactile route.
i have a question bro on some other review the guy was saying the pad has a really rough surface and your thumb gets stuck on it as you slide it across to do a quarter or half circle do you think thats true? i like the controller and am planning to buy it for the long grips because the old hori's stocky build was kind of a uncomfortable (ive been using that controller for over a year now)
The moment one comes out for ps5 I'm definitely grabbing one since I dislike the ps5 d-pad.
@souljastation5463
3 жыл бұрын
Isnt the dualsense d-pad just a transparent DS4 one? The ds4 d-pad is the best D-pad ever made.
Ooh I should check this out! Thanks for reviewing it!
I don't even play fighting games, but I NEED IIIIIT...
If I could get raion clicky pad with the customization and pivot of this pad, and the clicky buttons, it'd be perfect
Finally another pad withe analog in the right spot thank you
Does the Brook converter allow it to work for PS4/5? 🤔
@ret715
3 жыл бұрын
Hope they make a PS4/5 version ASAP, so a dongle wouldn't be necessary.
I play on an analog stick, but that is mostly because my controller PowerA Spectra enhanced has a D-pad that tends to imput up when I am pressing left just because I pressed slightly too high. As for dashes on an Analog stick, I just got used but it was hard at first.
I've been looking forward to this controller.
Mine hasn't even shipped yet, so jelly!! Good video though, glad to hear it's living up to the FC name
Real good in depth review. Thank you!!!! 🔥💯
Was kinda curious how it would feel to do some of the charge character tech with using the dpad and stick at the same time. Doing stuff like holding the charge with the dpad and using the stick to "release". Looks very nice though, I might finally change my 8 year old MadCatz SFxT fightpad with this. Thanks for the informative review.
Looks like I’m getting a new fightpad. Great review!
@NihongoGamer So I just got mine in the mail today and I quickly noticed that when going in between each diagonal direction on the D-Pad. The controller goes back to neutral for a few frames before going into it's next direction and I was wondering if you've noticed this yet? I feel like this is significant. I launched UNICLR to confirmed this and turned on input history. And the game is literally registering neutral between each direction I input.
@GardeninTool
3 жыл бұрын
Update: Learn how to update the firmware folks!
I had the EXACT same feeling of relief seeing that the dpad doesn’t skip cardinals when you’re doing a 360 Every rubber membrane dpad I’ve tried always skipped down if you weren’t specific
@JLoza_
3 жыл бұрын
xDDD dont worry, this pad isnt different. In fact, I bought it just for the D-pad, and I will return it today because my old very xbox 360 gamepad has the same pad, with a better feel.
@SleepayGui
3 жыл бұрын
@@JLoza_ It's available for preorder? How did you test it already?
@JLoza_
3 жыл бұрын
@@SleepayGui preorder from amazon
@SleepayGui
3 жыл бұрын
@@JLoza_ Yeah so it's not out yet?
i've got this controller. in my experience: - the stick is absolutely useless, and i agree with the author - it's on the wrong place; - d-pad is okeyish, it's just a standard d-pad; the ability to configure it is useless; maybe if it be clicky it could be a perfect d-pad; - the buttons on the right side are great for this type of controller; the best part of it; - the shoulder buttons are too loose, they should click as well. in general, for this price it is a great alternative for the default controller. but if you commit into fighting games, you need something more serious.
razer raion: d-pad uses mechanical switches but not face buttons hori fighting commander octa: face buttons use mechanical switches but not the d-pad whyyyy
Thank you for the very in-depth review! This is what I like to see. Looks like an awesome controller for Zangief, I'm playing a lot of SFV these days, and enjoy fighting games in general! I also like N64 emulation, it'll be nice for that. Hope it's as good as I assume
Can you program the analog stick to be the right one instead of the left? Great review as always
Really cool video! Just an observation, what was going on in the background when you were playing as Guile? The textures where popping in and out everytime you were pressing something on the pad, yet didn't when playing as Sakura?
@NihongoGamer
3 жыл бұрын
Pc version of sfv. I was running with various graphics effects turned off to make sure the recording worked without frame drops and it seems to be more pronounced on the new rose stage
@veejay420
3 жыл бұрын
@@NihongoGamer Ah that's fair enough, I thought the game was just suffering from some graphical bugs. Thanks for the reply and thanks for reviewing this pad, I'm really tempted to get one!
I'm planning on getting the ps4 version when it comes out but I was concerned about the dpad
whats going on with the background textures in that sf IV controller test @ 15:58 . never noticed that before. lighting maps are flickering in and out and the textures are constantly going from high res to low res over and over again
This controller is a thing of beauty. Hopefully we are getting this in the States. If not I will just have to import it.
@archmagus1510
3 жыл бұрын
amazon will sell this on 30 of april happy purchase.
@DieselJT
3 жыл бұрын
@@archmagus1510 nice. THANX.
Planning on reviewing the Xbox series controllers? I've heard a lot of good things about the dpad, but with the tiny xbox fighting game scene its not getting much news. Seems like something cool to use on PC with its wireless and all
@Beavernator
3 жыл бұрын
I recently got a Series X and did dpad testing on games like Celeste... Light-years better than the Xbox One controllers... Though I love that all of my Xbox One controllers work on Series X...
This is a great review. Thank you!
I was just thinking about my old hori fighting commander and why it didn’t have mechanical switches. Def a buy
just noticed there is a firmware update on the hori website for the octa, on the support tab. should i download it or not ? seems it fixes some d-pad issues and also says that after the update you won't be able to go back to a previous firmware version. thanks, guys.
@kirby2097
3 жыл бұрын
If you have that specific issue where the d-pad returns to neutral when you're doing a special move command, you should update the firmware. It's instantly recognisable when you go through the button test on the Hori app.
@CalcioRoma
3 жыл бұрын
@@kirby2097 hi, haven t checked on the hori app BUT i tried to download the frmwr update and it says my version on the octa is 3.06 while if i decide to update i will have 3.07. So can i try to update the firmware, man? Thx for the reply, btw, and enjoy your octa ;) see ya
@kirby2097
3 жыл бұрын
@@CalcioRoma I would suggest you try and see if you have the d-pad problem either in a game or the Test window under Set up USB Game Controller in Windows before updating the firmware.
I think the four profiles is great for accommodating multiple games, rather than people Tekken and UNI can bind L3 and R3 but SFV can’t do that feature was difficult to take advantage of Now it’s totally adaptable to each game
the d pad was my biggest concern and glad it works good. also i had the old controller and the buttons would wear out so fast and get gummy and not work glad they are now mechanical thank you !!!! Amazon here i come and order placed
I'm gonna get one of these to use on my steam deck specifically for saturn, dreamcast and some ps one (mostly capcom) fighting games
Best review I found. No constant pausing or repeating. Ggs