South Africa’s genocide case against Israel has been called one of the most important cases to have ever come before the International Court of Justice. But what do you think will happen? Will the Court find that Israel has committed genocide or otherwise broken the Genocide Convention? And what will Israel’s allies do if it does? As always, I look forward to hearing your thoughts and comments below.

@jonathanrotem251

4 ай бұрын

This case is a joke, a stunt by the ANC Government facing a harsh election year.

@FlamingBasketballClub

4 ай бұрын

The continued prosecution of Rohingya people is still getting pushed to the sidelines by the mainstream news media.

@christhomson8924

4 ай бұрын

do you condemn the genocide?

@WilliamSanderson-zh9dq

4 ай бұрын

Acquittal

@bilic8094

4 ай бұрын

Maybe the uproar against Israel would be far greater if the conflict in Ukraine wasn't raging at the same time i personally haven't watched a lot of the news from Israel rather way more from Ukraine.

I've consumed days of conflict content, and this is the first person, that lays it out, flat, unbiased and without lean. Exceptional, literally

@JamesKerLindsay

4 ай бұрын

Thank you so much. I felt it was important to give a measured assessment of what is happening.

@u.2b215

4 ай бұрын

He isn't unbiased, although I doubt that being completely unbiased is even possible. His wording reveals a clear western view on the matter which takes over a lot of the pro-Israeli narrative without being fully conscious about it. For instance when he doesn't explicitly distinguish between military and civilian deaths following the Hamas-led incursion on the 7th of October or the Israeli deaths caused by Israeli fire it pinpoints where he's from simply by his words. That might be his actual position or there's some self-censorship at play. Freedom of speech is quite restricted in the west when it comes to this matter. To get away with saying anything nuanced about Israel you have to condemn what Palestinians did first.

@djangofett4879

4 ай бұрын

you could just take israeli leadership's word for it. they have made it very clear that they intend genocide. there is no bias involved in that. they admit that is their intent. the only time they're not admitting it is when theyre on american or British TV lying to people who are gullible enough to still believe them even though there is plenty of video of them saying they intend a genocide.

@filipmihalovic2822

4 ай бұрын

@@u.2b215 freedom of speech in the west restricted? You mean the same west where people including radical islamists regularly march in the streets chanting "From the river to the sea..." without any repercussions?

@ezenwankwoekene8273

4 ай бұрын

​@@u.2b215I don't even understand what you are on about?

Why are people denying this? You can literally read/see the statements from Israeli officials and troops on the ground. That akin to genocidal rhetoric and actions

@54032Zepol

4 ай бұрын

Ironic you could say the same about Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon all for kicking out tens of thousands of Palestinians and attacking their PLO strongholds

@Frank-costanza

4 ай бұрын

​@@54032Zepolwhataboutism at its finest.

@54032Zepol

4 ай бұрын

@@Frank-costanza so you don't know, and just keep sounding off from your x board

@Frank-costanza

4 ай бұрын

@@54032Zepol dude you sound confused.

@JUAN_OLIVIER

4 ай бұрын

Some people making statements does not = that something is actually happening in reality. One can just as easily say why are people supporting hamas genocidal plans to kill the Jews by promoting this hamas propaganda.

Thanks, to see a people like you who speaks and stand for truth.

@issamsaqer1163

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for your humanity and integrity

Always looking forward to professor Ker-Lindsay's video on fridays.

@JamesKerLindsay

4 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

@worththewatch1517

4 ай бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay White professor , whitewashing Israeli crimes 🤣

@mycellphone4437

4 ай бұрын

@@worththewatch1517 His is a balanced take. Comments like these don't contribute much. Best going on Twitter.

@UnnamedLexicon

4 ай бұрын

only the colonizer support another colonizer. @@worththewatch1517

@basedgamerguy818

4 ай бұрын

​@@JamesKerLindsay the military of Israel is known to use the "Dahya doctrine" which by its very nature is a war crime. Add in the fact that the US State department lets Israel skirt the Leahy law that requires foreign governments that receive military aid to not violate human rights has the United States given Israel carte blanche to conduct state terrorism

If the court actually decides in South Africa's favor, my country, Germany, will have a lot of explaining to do. You knows, why it seems to always stand on the wrong side of history.

@Onwabile-uc8sm

4 ай бұрын

I kinda feel sorry for Germany. Their part in this is understandable

@PeleSahota

4 ай бұрын

Blind Pflicht

@ayshaelsibai6159

4 ай бұрын

I was just thinking of this today. The same statement came to my mind

@orientalgirl8926

4 ай бұрын

@@Onwabile-uc8sm i am from germany too. you do not have to feel sorry for the ignorance of germany. they have a history of looking away and they do it again. i feel sorry for those ppl which feel disappointed by politicians and media. believe me it is an awfull ignorance regarding this topic.

@wanmela54

4 ай бұрын

@@orientalgirl8926yes it is the media and politicians again ...worldwide problem cos they just grow old but never grow up. That means they need to go back to school or the grandchildren get them to listen up properly

Not surprising that countries in opposition of South Africa (US, UK, Germany, France, Italy, Australia) have performed various level of ‘atrocities’ towards population under colonial rules. While many countries supporting South Africa were on the receiving end of such atrocities, few countries, like Indonesia and Turkey stood out as they had their fair share of unpleasant history towards particular ethnic group. Only thing that surprised me was Ireland’s stance. It seems to have forgotten its long history of struggle.

@JamesKerLindsay

4 ай бұрын

Thanks. But we need to be clear that while those atrocities were appalling, they took place at a very different time when international law was undeveloped. We live in an age when we have rules in place. The current events must be judged according to those accepted international standards, and not against actions taken late in a more brutal era. Again, this doesn’t excuse those actions. But let’s focus on the here and now, and what is accepted practice today.

@johnpiers2786

4 ай бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay Rules are only worth it if they are implemented and we've seen how the big powers abuse them to their own benefit. They hold uncountable only those from weak countries while the ones who deserve it the most move freely.

@anotherbacklog

3 ай бұрын

Thank you professor to remind me the fallacy of applying modern morality. It does give a small sense of progress of how far we got from those days. However, as predicted by professor, as ICJ ruled against Israel, nothing is happening. It is questionable if we have really progress much since those brutal era.

@HOGH22

3 ай бұрын

​@@JamesKerLindsay 1- Even though you made a point, but it's a very weak point. The international laws have been developed, but this is somehow whitewashing of those atrocities, the least to say. Those atrocities, were called atrocities, even back then. Everything is not about "the international laws". Human beings have "conscience, inherent wisdom, and common sense" to know what is right or wrong. Especially, knowing that genocide, apartheid, ethnic cleansing, and occupation. So, yes, the international laws were quite different back then, however conscience was enough developed even back then. While the legality of actions are judged by laws, the morality is judged by conscience. 2- Another thing is undermining the influence of western colonialism, on the current world situation. As if the whole colonialism was all about the past, and does not continue today. And by the way, which past are you talking about? Some hundred years ago, or some decades ago, or just right now? Although the infamous modern western colonialism was started since some hundred years ago, it never really discontinued and stopped. Not only the history of the UK, the US, Australia, and Canada until some decades ago says a lot, but also intervention and invasion of the west, specially the US, to many countries around the globe, up today, is evident. Thier full support of Apartheid South Africa, and of course Israel, says it clearly, that the colonialism has never really ended. And your effort to undermine, as if the permanent support and complicity of the white supremacist colonialists is a coincident, is barren. 3- It is the same pattern in your video. While it seems that you try to be impartial in conveying the news from both sides, by saying many things which are true, but finally what you say is biased. Not because you're adding something from yourself or falsely quoting something, but not filtering the lies from the truth. In the same way that, being quiet against oppression is not being impartial but complicit, in the same way, quoting the debunked lies with the same weight as the truth, specially by a professor, is being biased. For ex. you quote the number of killed/injured Palestinians, but you also quote the Israeli lies, that murder these number of people/children is because of Hamas' booby-traps, ..., which is ridiculous. Israel has broken the record of atrocities in many subjects, for ex. number of killed/injured civilians, women, children, medic workers, journalists, UN workers, ... and destroying of residential areas and houses, hospitals, ambulances, UN offices, Press offices, Schools , universities, Mosques, Churches, ... 4- Have you heard about the murder of the 6 year old Palestinian girl, Hind Rajab (who's several relatives were murdered in the same car), and 2 medic workers who came to rescue her, and their ambulance was targeted and burned by Israeli tank? kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6Shs9R_g7ayocY.html Watch the video, and tell me your opinion! I wonder how you would tell this this story, regarding that Israelis say all thier killings of Palestinians have an explanation which relates to Hamas, and therefore Israelis is never responsible for their atrocities. 5- If I were you, I would think, why despite saying almost everything, the outcome is not the truth. Of course, I explained it. I just want to let you to know that, if you're really trying to tell the truth, and be impartial, you have not been successful doing that. My opinion is objective, impersonal, and has nothing to do with you, but your thoughts, and the way you convey them. I hope it helps.🙏😇

Hi James, just a quick question. How would colossal reputational damage affect Israel? They dont seem to care what anyone thinks, even the US. And given that the US could be culpable, as they supplied the arms, the two could just thumb their nose to the rest of the world, like after the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.

@mussajavdan8203

4 ай бұрын

My answer . Well unlike Israel , many western countries are binded to the ruling of the ICJ .That includes selling weapons and etc. If you undermine international law and rulings ,well that is a dangerous path to anarchy and world war three. Because than who cares .

@hansj.hobein5762

4 ай бұрын

The US is still occupying and stealing the resources from Countrys' they distroyed.

@xtradi

4 ай бұрын

If we see what happened with South Africa, they are basically shun by the international community, and that weaken the government

@karanikolasspartan8391

4 ай бұрын

@@xtradiyou are very smart .

@soakupthesunman

4 ай бұрын

There's your problem right there. This ICJ action is in no way "the rest of the world". This is built on Islamist control of the UN and shameless corruption and bias.

Well sadly, most of the world didn’t get to see the first day because the big and bought news media did not air it nor barely spoke of it.

@caimaccoinnich9594

4 ай бұрын

I know!!! It's an absolute tragedy!

@joyvinansky8448

4 ай бұрын

You could of watched it on YT channels.

@gmw3083

4 ай бұрын

Most of the American led west may not have seen the first day. That's only 10% of the earths population. People that are clueless, prefer to stay that way. Those who don't, will seek the truth....

@sweetgrape40

4 ай бұрын

@@joyvinansky8448 That's not the point. The major media and broadcasting agencies didn't air the first day while aired the second day.

@maryl8753

4 ай бұрын

Yes that says a lot

The west has supported quite a few genocides in the past for geopolitical expediency. Indonesia in 60s or Bangladesh genocide in 70s... so they definitely have form.

@user-iz2tq3dx5d

4 ай бұрын

And Russia and China supported the genocide in Myanmar, Syria and Bosnia

@ceasar8679

4 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@Ass_of_Amalek

4 ай бұрын

kissinger going to hell really didn't change much, did it? :(

@gbickell

4 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say 'the west', to be honest as this is not an exclusively western thing. There have been massive protests against wars, apartheid and hate but despite these, certain powers have acted contrary to the desires of the majority. For example, the invasion of Iraq by the USA and UK

@kth6736

4 ай бұрын

@@gbickell the two I mention had wide western public support because they were genocides against "communist" leaning populations. And the protests were not from majority of population, both Blair and Bush won elections after invading Iraq so its delusional to think a majority was against it.

Denying that a Holocaust is taking place in Gaza is akin to Holocaust denial that took place during the Second World War

@samuelvalperga2421

4 ай бұрын

Yeah but They are gods chosen. That makes everything they do ok

@soakupthesunman

4 ай бұрын

This holocaust features people who can't or won't flee an intended target zone. Hamass prefers lots of civilian casualties, so they don't lift a finger to help avoid them. Instead, hamass builds tunnel hubs underneath universities and all other public buildings. Islamist lackeys then condemn Israel for "bombing schools".

@samuelvalperga2421

4 ай бұрын

You're not allowed to be anti-Semitic. O wait it's a free country ? That Jews rule...

@snoopcelev1590

4 ай бұрын

​@@samuelvalperga2421 no self awareness. It's comical

@leon19736

4 ай бұрын

Did Nazi supply food and medicine to concentration camp like Israel does to Gaza? Did people from concentration camp fired missiles on German and committed massacre against German civilians

GAZA, A Textbook Case of Genocide: Israeli accountability & U.S, UK. Complicity

@antoniolewis1016

4 ай бұрын

not just complicit - they are accomplices. The whole world is complicit.

@cosmotagliafierro8055

4 ай бұрын

Short but accurate!!

@issamsaqer1163

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for your humanity and integrity

@josephine4611

4 ай бұрын

​@antoniolewis1016 100% accomplices, this would of ended well before now if these other countries weren't supplying them with weapons and vetoing at court for cease fire..

@anglaismoyen

4 ай бұрын

​@@josephine4611would have

Another Friday another James Ker Lindsay video LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO

@JamesKerLindsay

4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Have a good weekend.

Why is this world so f'd up?

@SuperGreatSphinx

4 ай бұрын

Godlessness

@LoboalphaMASTER

4 ай бұрын

@@SuperGreatSphinx I would argue that on this case is the complete oposite . . .

@FarekWad

4 ай бұрын

Because Iran wants to initiate ww3 to bring about their radical understanding of the messiah. China and Russia want to overthrow USA as the defacto "world leader/ world police" as a way to get as much money and power as possible. USA is trying their best to not offend the people that yell the loudest.

@ivoboksem851

4 ай бұрын

Capitalism

Natanyaru é culpado não só ele mais todos os envolvidos no genocídio

@NewYorker8312

4 ай бұрын

It is the only genocide in human history in which the population is rapidly growing. Go figure. You also forgot to mention that had it not been for the Hamas terror attack with its rapes, murders, and kidnappings, absolutely NOTHING would be happening in Gaza, just like on October 6th.

@airtale8725

4 ай бұрын

No, he isn't.

@1mol831

4 ай бұрын

He’s becoming delusional

@madalenaandrade3249

4 ай бұрын

Israel não é culpado não

Those who deny freedom to others deserves not freedom themselves.. Abraham Lincoln

@thomassenbart

4 ай бұрын

Are you speaking of Hamas, which has ruled of Gaza since 2005 as a dictatorial regime? Hamas has also taken the freedom of all its victims, stolen the prosperity or economic liberty of its people to fund its war against the Jews etc... You should think.

@tkendirli

4 ай бұрын

That's very obvious. The officials are already in danger of being accused with war crimes thereby risking jailtime.

@slartibartfast7921

4 ай бұрын

@@tkendirli Sadly it is anything but obvious to many, and there is a significant risk they won’t.

@michaelyudovin3887

4 ай бұрын

Freedom as it applies to slavery, absolutely. Would you enable those who you don't trust ?

@Manigo1743

4 ай бұрын

I don't believe he meant freedom for terrorists.

"...Netanyahu made a similar point at a Likud faction meeting in early 2019, when he was quoted as saying that those who oppose a Palestinian state should support the transfer of funds to Gaza, because maintaining the separation between the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza would prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state." -The Times of Israel

@user-iz2tq3dx5d

4 ай бұрын

How is this connected to the genocide case

@David-bc4rh

4 ай бұрын

Its simultaneously a vocal discouragement for two state solution and a vocal encouragement by Israel State officials to fund the very militant group for which the genocide is being waged. "human shields; if they want it to stop they should surrender; etc..."

@David-bc4rh

4 ай бұрын

@@bluedragon13063 I'm not seeing where News Corps owns The Times of Israel, so I don't see how your comment is relevant.

Thank u for covering this. I was curious about this topic and wondering the same things

What’s really unfortunate is that no matter what the court says this won’t end. If the court clears Israel of genocide the countries, and people, supporting South Africa will just say that “the Americans/Jews got to the justices and intimidated/threatened them to give the answer that they want.” But if the court sided with South Africa Israel will likely just withdraw from the court entirely and maybe the UNGA will try and pass some form of resolution against them I’d say it’s unlikely that Israel will face any effective punishment for a ruling against them.

@hansj.hobein5762

4 ай бұрын

Resolutions on Israel ???

@Mankorra_Gomorrah

4 ай бұрын

@@hansj.hobein5762 there has already been at least one. While that resolution did basically nothing, that doesn’t mean future resolutions will be as easy to ignore. Especially if there is a court ruling that Israel is actively engaging in genocide backing the resolution.

@TenpennyTower

4 ай бұрын

Maybe in the immediate short term but I do think Israel will be treated as pariah state in the long term severely weakning them and there influence in j the future, and I think the US will receive the same treatment maybe not to the same extent but the regional powers in the Middle East are the most cohesive they’ve ever been with each other and have two major superpowers in their corner, the US has overplayed their hand

@dijikstra8

4 ай бұрын

You can't withdraw from the court without withdrawing from the UN entirely. This is likely the most clear cut case of genocide that has ever been in front of the court, but it's also a case where a lot of Western states will be complicit if Israel is convicted. If the judges reject the claim, it's not likely to be on merit but rather some technicality regarding jurisdiction or the argument over whether there is a "dispute" between Israel and South Africa, because on the merits it's quite clear that Israel will lose. If a ruling against Israel is rejected by the US, it becomes clear that they don't actually care about international law, just about their own geopolitical interests, which of course has been clear for decades.

@Mankorra_Gomorrah

4 ай бұрын

@@dijikstra8 and some people say you can’t predict the future. I’m going to buy a lottery ticket brb.

“We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians.” ― Nelson Mandela. Be sure You will lose Israel. Fight for freedom continues.

@soakupthesunman

4 ай бұрын

Mandeala were around now he would probably condemn international Islamism for corrupting the United Nations and making a mockery of the ICJ.

If the case fails then the world of justice as we know it will collapse, chaos and Carnage will take over without any repercussions

@legogoku7425

4 ай бұрын

So business as usual then...

@pascualgomez7839

4 ай бұрын

It's all ready ended

@martinzurko2762

4 ай бұрын

And everything on the altar of “supporting Israel”.the level of selfharm from the West is unbelievable

@Magumbo58

4 ай бұрын

Lol. Thats has been happening for eons

The Prime Minister of Israel have called the Palestinians as " dogs" on several accounts.. and thus Israel dehumanises a group of people and thus any attempt of wiping them off the land is unhindered.. and asking a group of people to leave behind their homes and the ones who stayed behind are suffering with no basic amenities..

A ruling against Israel would simply pull back the curtain of corruption that infects the United Nations for all to see. Many in the west would be absolutely shocked at the level of corruption at the UN. And the biggest tragedy is that young people from western countries who are so idealistic, go work for the UN and leave there so disillusioned at what they see.

3 stages of governmental response: a) Deny - No, we didn't do it. b) Admit - Yes, we did it. So what? Others did it, too. c) Warn - So, what are you going to do about it? One governs by intimidation and brutality, not by logical arguments.

Facts are on the ground visible to all. What happens in the face of deliberate denial of the facts by the ICJ and by UN members is the question.

@redhammer9910

4 ай бұрын

Yes, like Islamist building an underground war machine with the UN through UNRWA providing cover, funds and paid staff. I like digging and have come across a couple of stories coming out of Gaza. The aid is being distributed to merchants who are selling it to Palestinian's. Those without money are being left starving. It's a shocking situation. UNRWA it would appear are directly involved in the distribution process. In effect Hamas is converting the aid in to currency and thus profiting. The blatantly antisemitic UN are manipulating those starving as propaganda against Israel. Shocking absolutely shocking conduct on the part of the disgraced, morally bankrupt and corrupt UN. People need to wake up to the UN and what they have evolved to become. Look at their committees, look at the judges and the countries they come from. Look back over the past 4 years and how the UN pushed mandates to facilitate the technology being imposed then and globally now. Note how all the players keep religion out of all their analysis yet religion is the core issue including that associated with the UN.

The more scary thing is, if the court rules in favor of the occupiers.

@Ruach7777

4 ай бұрын

Israel are not occupiers. The State of Israel is a sovereign state. There never has been a sovereign state of Palestine. NEVER

@CharodyParody

4 ай бұрын

If the ICJ rules in favor of the Israelis will the Muslim ummah accept it humbly?

@sabin97

4 ай бұрын

hopefully it will not. i looked it up in wikipedia and over half of the judges are from non-white countries. and only white countries are if favour of genocide. so assuming it's a majority vote it will most likely be against the nazis.

@alymere7590

4 ай бұрын

It's not only scary because it's morally horrendous, but also the repercussions on global politics, it's either the slow build up to a ww3 or in "best case scenario" more instability for decades at least in the middle east

@chalabread

4 ай бұрын

Please explain how natives can occupy the land they’re native too?

We love South Africa for loving the people of Gaza

I waited so long for this video man 😭😭😭

If it's a genocide or not shouldn't be up for debate for anyone paying attention quite frankly, entertaining arguments against calling what's an obvious genocide a genocide is just an insult to our intelligence

@Ricardofromage

4 ай бұрын

Agreed

@dontcomply3976

4 ай бұрын

Just because youvassert something to be true, it dies not mean it is

@djdrogs

4 ай бұрын

Corrct. It's the glaring reality, supported by masses of evidence that make it true@@dontcomply3976

I highly doubt will ever see netanyahu in the hague chances of that happening are slim to none.

@kth6736

4 ай бұрын

Netanyahu is very clever. He makes his minions do the inflammatory talk.

@user-hn1pf9dg1t

4 ай бұрын

Well he likes to quote Old Testament scriptures that’s suits his goal. Mr Netanyahu needs to read, “The Sins of the father shall fall upon the children unto the third and fourth Generation”. Deuteronomy5: 9-10.

@LCohenSax

4 ай бұрын

You want Netanyahu at the Hague for defending his country from 50,000 terrorist rockets fired at Israeli families etc. over the past 17 years but not Hamas, or the PA for paying terrorist's families for killing Jews, but not Bashar Assad murduring 1/2 million, but not Turkey for its actual genocide against Kurds, but not IRAN for oppressing and butchering its own people and sponsoring endless terror and death... got it.

@thomassenbart

4 ай бұрын

There is zero reason for Netanyahu to stand trial at the Hague.

@bilic8094

4 ай бұрын

@@thomassenbart It's a kangaroo court to begin with.

“You take my water, burn my olive trees, destroy my house, take my job, steal my land, imprison my father, kill my mother, bombard my country, starve us all, humiliate us all, but I am to blame: I shot a rocket back.” - Chomsky

@Emperors_Deathangel

4 ай бұрын

The land was of Israeli from the first place. They're the ones who suffered genocide. The ottoman genocide on regional natives. Then, go study about why Arab Israel Palestine wars happened. Israeli were victims all along. Then, the Palestinians played victim card and started wars now and then. What did Israel do? They tried for peace. They provided everything. Even before this war, Palestinians were provided with everything necessary for life by Israel and Hamas used them for war. It's easy for you to simplify it as I shot a rocket back but we all know that, in reality, it isn't.

@KishorPasha

4 ай бұрын

@@Emperors_Deathangel How ?? they just stole it... Thief are not owner ...

@azwanazmi1484

4 ай бұрын

@Emperors_Deathangel How was the land Israeli in the first place? Research the history, not selective timelines. Many Palestinians are descendants of the Canaanites who were there long before the Jewish people existed and wondered from the ancient Sumarian city of Ur. (Abraham's birthplace) This has been proved to be accurate from DNA testing. Even the religious texts will tell you of the indigenous people of the land. It should not matter about the recent given or accepted label of the people (Palestinians) in order to deny their origins and transformation. Israel did not provide anything for peace, they were provided the instruments for genocide and colonisation and because of this power would not negotiate in good faith. They even assassinated the UN mediator Count Folke Bernadotte and funded Hamas to destabilise any forward progress on a 2 state solution.

@pieter-bashoogsteen2283

4 ай бұрын

He makes a good point, but it’s a bit ironic coming from Chomsky considering he has quite the reputation for being a genocide denier himself with the genocide committed by the Serbs on the Bosnians.

@soakupthesunman

4 ай бұрын

@@KishorPasha It could not have been stolen, because the registered owners were almost all Jewish. In fact, arabs didn't want the land until they saw how Jews were able to make the land a paradise. No, no land was stolen, and the UN literally officially created Israel. That is why Islamists have been targeting the UN ever since. It is now just a skin for Jew-haters.

It is completely absurd to suggest that Israel's attacks on Hamas within Gaza constitute an act of "self-defence" and yet it seems to be taboo to point out this obvious point. October 7th was a security failure on the part of Israel as much as anything else and Israel has the ability to secure its border with Gaza and prevent a further attack without killing or harming a single person within Gaza. That is what "self-defence" would look like. The most defensible case that can be made for Israel is that it is engaging in a pre-emptive attack on Hamas in order to degrade it military capacity and prevent the possibility of a further attack, which is one of the justifications that Russia has invoked for its invasion of Ukraine. However, given the scale of destruction wrought on Gaza, Israel's use of unguided 2,000 lbs, Israel's deliberate targeting of journalists, and the explicitly genocidal rhetoric of both its leaders and soldiers on the ground this is also untenable. Israel is indeed engaged in a genocidal attack on Gaza in furtherance of its goal of occupying the whole of historic Palestine and destroying all hopes for Palestinians of being able to enjoy self-determination.

@anmag2486

4 ай бұрын

Very well said sir🙏

@flowermaze___

4 ай бұрын

@@lavip8866”rockets rain on citizens” you have to be joking - look at what Israel is doing to a mostly civilian population, huge amounts of death and destruction - thousands of bombs, acts of warcrimes… some retaliation from gaza is actually self defence, not the other way around. Wake up and stop parroting the lies of the IDF and pro genocide enablers. More so, if Israel wasn’t illegally OCCUPYING and keeping an entire population in a concentration camp, maybe they wouldn’t feel the desperate need to try anything to be free!!

@beth1979

4 ай бұрын

​@@lavip8866are you saying that Iron Dome is a failure?

@adamwaterhouse

4 ай бұрын

@@lavip8866 The Gaza Strip is defined as an occupied territory under international law so there is no legal right to self-defence. The US attacks on Japan to not meet the definition of self-defence either. Although the situations are incomparable, I certainly do think that the Second World War could have been stopped far sooner than it was, with respect to both Japan and Germany, and that such options should have been pursued. The dropping of two atomic bombs on Japan was completely unnecessary as a means to end the war and was a terrible war crime. With regards to Israel/Palestine the whole thing need to be understood within the context of Israel's occupation of all of the Palestinian territories. I recommend the film Occupation 101, and if you have time the films Roadmap to Apartheid and 5 Broken Cameras. All can be viewed for free on KZread and they help to provide some of the context that is missing from the mainstream media's account of events.

@JUAN_OLIVIER

4 ай бұрын

Nothing absurd at all. There are plenty of historical examples of country A starting a war with country B then country B defending itself and eventually having to defeat country A on their own territory to end the war.

Please see The USA Leah’s Human Rights Act 1997 Israel contravened this act in 2011 2016 and 2023-2024 No Self Defence is accepted

@thomassenbart

4 ай бұрын

Israel is well within its rights and within international law.

Tribunal penal para Netanyahu y sus secuaces!!!

I take issue with characterizing the taking of Israeli civlians as "prisoners." They are hostages.

@WilliamSanderson-zh9dq

4 ай бұрын

Hostage taking is a war crime under the First Geneva Convention. Why aren’t Palestine on trial?

@caimaccoinnich9594

4 ай бұрын

True. The Palestinians that the Israeli state abducts, often without any legal basis, should also be called hostages though.

@blackwatertv7018

4 ай бұрын

Hostages are prisoners.

@adamdobrer8262

4 ай бұрын

​@@blackwatertv7018 There is a fundamental difference in international law beteween a "hostage" and a prisoner [of war]. Referring to civilians taken hostage by a terrorist organization both legitimizes the Hamas argument that "all Israelis are legitimate targets". It also constitutes a category error with reference to the status of those civilians under international law. The taking of hostages is illegal under the Geneva Conventions and Rome Statute, and prima facie constitutes a crime against humanity. The taking of prisoners of war is lawful in an armed conflict, provided POWs recieve the protection afforded to them under the Geneva Conventions. It also contradicts how UN Security Council Resolutions and General Assembly Resolutions have referred to the situation, as both have called for "the immediate and unconditional release of hostages".

@bradleywillis9586

4 ай бұрын

Pretty much like the thousands of Palestinians held in Israeli gaols without charges

I'm so glad you touched on this subject. Cheers

James should do a video on the hypocrisy of both UEFA and FIFA.

@Serge-cm5my

4 ай бұрын

Those are Western controlled organisations

As it’s more likely for an abused child to abuse their own children, it seems people who were being exterminated go on to do the same.

@mannydevarona9965

4 ай бұрын

Exactly like people who are weak or abused, once they have the power they abuse it.

@lovesilk1

4 ай бұрын

None of the Israeli leaders have ever suffered abuse.

@lansvale28

4 ай бұрын

@@lovesilk1but their family would have very bad stories and if not family, close friends.

Gracias por la seriedad y profundidad de su exposición.

11:24 there is a judge from Israel and another from the United States. Will they judge in favour of justice and truth?

@thomassenbart

4 ай бұрын

If they rule for Israel, yes.

@sabin97

4 ай бұрын

i looked up at the composition and slightly over half of the judges are from non-white countries. and that's pretty much the divide when it comes to support for the occupation. whites support it, non-whites dont. if the court operates on a majority of votes(i dont know how that paticular court works), then there's hope they will be held accountable.

@its_firas.

4 ай бұрын

​@@thomassenbart ur delusional

@thomassenbart

4 ай бұрын

@@its_firas. Nope, I just understand the meaning of words and actions and don't conflate emotion with either.

Thank you so much for this video and for explaining what's going on in detail. I do have one question though, you said that the court is also hearing cases against Russia and Myanmar, what about Azerbaijan? what happened there? has it been settled, was there no official claim filed?

@ionnanskilliorus6877

4 ай бұрын

They left of their own free will. They were told that they could stay but they didn't want to because they thought there would be reprisals for what they had done in the early 90s.

@Todd.B

4 ай бұрын

@@ionnanskilliorus6877 now why would you try the case with me? Do I look like a court? Whether they are guilty or not is not what I asked, I simply asked what happened there.

@ionnanskilliorus6877

4 ай бұрын

@@Todd.B I'm not trying the case because there isn't one. You asked what was happening and that's why there isn't a case.

@Todd.B

4 ай бұрын

@@ionnanskilliorus6877 then no case was of finally filed would have been sufficient, I don’t need to your personal reasons why you think there IS no case there. That is nothing but finger pointing and whataboutism.

@annikamyren3026

4 ай бұрын

@@Todd.B 😡 you sounds nice 🙄

It’s not a question of intent anymore, now it’s a conversation of some people seem to justify it’s okay to have that intent for xyz reasons.

Great video sir thanks 🎉

@JamesKerLindsay

2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much.

Benjamin should go to trial for the genocide in Gaza.

Thank you, Prof. For covering this complex and difficult topic. I look forward to hearing more from you as this matter moves forward.

@mmalegendstips6877

4 ай бұрын

True , it is difficult ! but not complex

@ajproductions7357

4 ай бұрын

Not complex at all. Stop the Genocide shlomo.

Thanks as always Prof 👍🏻👍🏻🇦🇺

The occupiers of Palestine signed the Genocide convention in the same year they committed their first genocide, The Nakba in 1948

If it is indeed genocide, it seems like it's quite a unique one as Israel is focusing much more on destroying infrastructure (incl homes) and cutting off resources than killing people directly (even though it could). Are there any analogous examples? Where a country uses these relatively indirect methods because it wants, presumably, to retain plausible deniability?

@mcyte314

4 ай бұрын

Israel is clearly not committing a genocide and South Africas legal action is clearly antisemitic and cynical. To the contrary, Israel is under thread of genocide by Hamas and is taking precise and measured actions against this, doing its utmost to prevent civilian casualties. Unfortunately the battlefield chosen by Hamas will lead to a lot of civilian casualties, but Israel cannot prevent this. Hamas should capitulate at once to prevent further casualties in both sides and stop the suffering of the people in Gaza.

@caimaccoinnich9594

4 ай бұрын

​@@mcyte314To accuse SA of antisemitism shows you haven't read any of my government's submission to the ICJ

@thormanray9090

4 ай бұрын

​@@mcyte314 "... Israel cannot prevent this." Sure, Israel just cannot prevent carpet bombing one of the densest populated areas in the world knowing that most people living there are civilians. How twisted some peoples' brains are is incredible.

@caimaccoinnich9594

4 ай бұрын

Israel is focusing on destroying infrastructure as they likely want to drive the Palestinians into the Sinai (as their president said) to claim their lands just as they did in the Nakba. That would be ethnic cleansing which is a form of genocide.

@Frank-costanza

4 ай бұрын

​@mcyte314 criticism of Israel is antisemitism? I thought Israel was multinational and has multiple religions with equal rights?

We knew at the beginning of this new phase in the struggle what the consequences would be for the people of Gaza. South Africa has not only put up a powerful case before the ICJ but has given the context of the oppression of the palestinian peoples.

@DanielS-zq2rr

4 ай бұрын

Their case is pure dogshit

@caimaccoinnich9594

4 ай бұрын

I'm proud of my country South Africa🇿🇦

@beth1979

4 ай бұрын

​@@DanielS-zq2rrcare to elaborate? Do you mean in actuality or is this just an emotional response?

It's interesting to note that all of Israels arguments were mostly irrelevant, especially bringing up hamas, any "turning of the tables" should be brought up in Israels own icj case against Hamas, which they wont make.

@NewYorker8312

4 ай бұрын

Hamas is guilty of genocide, but the UN and ICJ won't hear that case.

Good job Dr. Lindsay for this topic, now your comment section is a clown house

@JamesKerLindsay

4 ай бұрын

Thanks. Let's hope that we can at least have some measured discussions.

The squatters need to be found guilty!!

@cosmotagliafierro8055

4 ай бұрын

That’s ambiguous. Who are the squatters ??

@NewYorker8312

4 ай бұрын

@@cosmotagliafierro8055 Hamas

There are 25k dead 9k terrorists. In an urban terrain with a terrorist organization. The average western military has 3:1 combatant to civilian ratio Israel is way less than this. If Israel wanted to kill Palestinians they wouldn’t be so incompetent and be able to destroy all of 2 million in a couple of days of that was their goal. How many civilians have died on Oct 6th? What modern war was above board so we can have base line

Fantastic post, as always. Thank you.

@JamesKerLindsay

4 ай бұрын

Thank you so much. I appreciate it. I know that it is an extremely contentious and emotive topic, for extremely good reasons, but I hope that it helped to explain what is actually happening at the ICJ.

Thank you for talking about this. I think that if the court rules against Israel we should boycot just like western countries did with Russia.

Suppose Israel never invaded Gaza after the Oct 7th attack, would Hamas have been called in front of the ICJ and charged with the genocide of Israelis?

@JamesKerLindsay

4 ай бұрын

The International Court of Justice only deals with states. There are other routes to bring individuals to trial.

If what's happening in Gaza is not genocide, I don't know what is.

Another excellent talk, Professor! Thank you!

@JamesKerLindsay

4 ай бұрын

Thank you so much. Many will be annoyed that I didn't come down one way or another on the allegations, but that's for the Court to decide.

@mclovin1071

4 ай бұрын

​​@@JamesKerLindsaynobody is annoyed. We are aware of your bias and calling you out on it. We are making sure that truth prevails. That's the beauty of social media. A single person cannot dominate the narrative. We, the people, will decide the narrative. FYI, you did come down in one way, the way of quoting israel's indefensible talking points which are trying to delegitimise South Africa's case. You did not quote any third party analysis of the case. Basically only the US and Israel.

I actually was waiting for your opinion on the matter because i do trust your judgment and your opinion matters ! So is it genocide or not professor?

@JamesKerLindsay

4 ай бұрын

Thanks. Let’s see what the Court says. But what I will say is that while I accept that the SA case has been driven by politics, I don’t believe that it is without merit. Many observers are rightfully worried that Israel’s actions go far beyond trying to eradicate Hamas and are aimed at destroying the Palestinian people of Gaza.

Just so you are aware, in case you weren’t already, this video may not be showing up in people’s subscriber feed’s. I could only find this by going through the notification, as it wasn’t in my feed at all.

@JamesKerLindsay

4 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for letting me know. This is really disturbing to hear. It has happened with a couple of other videos recently. A friend said the same over another video I did. It just didn’t show up on his feed.

You don’t need to have a JD to know that a defense’s first and main mission is question the credibility of the prosecutors/ overall trial. And that’s exactly what they’re doing. I’m curious to see how this goes because I watched the preliminary hearings in full. South Africa had a lot of evidence to back their claim, and Israel just went up there and made a lot of superfluous statements but no presented almost no evidence to back them. I’m from the United States so I’m not sure how law is practiced elsewhere, but here the defense doesn’t really need to prove anything. I wonder how the court will view Israel’s defense because for me, I need a more evidence that things are happening the way they’re saying it is. Btw why does anyone listen to the US government 😵‍💫 they are hypocrisy’s finest

@redhammer9910

4 ай бұрын

Nonesence. Facts matter and the SA's presented no facts.

If lcc is for non- western then study the law is not worth we ( human) are not euqal

You are the most educated man on this subject

According to The Word of The Creator of Heaven & earth, no human or nation(s) can solve the disputes and He shall settle the disputes as prophesied, and here is some of the many such prophecies: "I will descend & gather the armies of the nations into the valley of Yahushaphat. 
 And I will judge them for harming My people...and for dividing up My land." Joel 3:2 "I will seek to destroy the nations that come against Jerusalem." Zec.12:9 "Your hand will be lifted up against your adversaries, 
and ALL your enemies shall be destroyed." Mic.5:9

Anyone who doesn't see this as genocide is blind.

@thomassenbart

4 ай бұрын

No, they just understand the meaning of the word. You are ignorant if you call this war genocide, unless you are willing to make the same claim against Hamas, Syria, Iran, Yemen etc...

@Planet_Xplorer

4 ай бұрын

@@thomassenbart With that logic the Hulu cost was an act "self defense" as Israel spins it 😂

@Planet_Xplorer

4 ай бұрын

@@thomassenbart I think you're the bIG NO RANT.

@thomassenbart

4 ай бұрын

@@Planet_Xplorer It's about basic ideas, such as the meaning of war v. terrorism, military targets v. deliberate targeting and murder of civilians, Oct 7, use of human shields (Hamas), etc...

@thomassenbart

4 ай бұрын

@@Planet_Xplorer The Hulu cost? Nonsensical.

Jika israel tidak ditetapkan bersalah..sudah jelas..semua orang didunia berhak melakukan apapun..tidak perlu aturan..hukum rimba yang akan berlaku

God be with us and end our Suffering

Egypt told Israel 3 days before Hamas attack. 2 days before 100 soldiers were moved from Gaza. I think Netanyahu thought this was a necessary sacrifice as you can tell with hostages. Look at West Bank which has no Hamas. Almost 400 killed and over 6000 abducted to detention centres. Israel was found torturing detainees and then Israel fires head of detainee centre as if that makes everything okay.

@supporter2023

4 ай бұрын

West bank HAVE HAMAS, but they minority in west bank.

@richardkeller4892

4 ай бұрын

@@supporter2023 Israeli settlers constantly commit massacres against Palestinians, and Netanyahu appointed a criminal in charge of security for settlers. If any crime happens against Palestinians they have to go to Israeli authorities to report it. Do you know how demeaning that is almost never anything gets done.

@817sports

4 ай бұрын

@@supporter2023Israeli settlers are worse than Hamas. How many Israeli houses has hamas stolen from Israel? How many houses have the Israeli settlers stolen from Palestinians in the West Bank and east Jerusalem Israel is the master of blaming the victim

I think it’s fair to say that your audience has been eagerly awaiting this vide, myself included. What are your thoughts on the implications of Israel losing? Has ZA already achieved a ‘victory’ in terms of messaging? Thanks once again Professor

@JamesKerLindsay

4 ай бұрын

Thank you very much. I appreciate the support. Great question. As you will have seen, many are unhappy about this case, arguing that it has been politically motivated. But it has achieved its goal by raising questions that the Israeli government and its supporters would prefer weren’t asked. In fact, I’ve had accusations of antisemitism simply for creating a video about the case. But the reality is that many observers have been uncomfortable about Israel’s actions and are asking whether this has crossed a line from destroying Hamas to desiring the Palestinian people of Gaza. This is an important case. But let’s see what the Court says in the end, and, perhaps more importantly, what its reasoning behind any decision will be.

Its interesting this considering what is happening in south Africa itself and the intention behind hamas i will wait for the court results but its wierd

@savgy17

4 ай бұрын

What is happening in South Africa that is anything equal to what is happening in Gaza.

@nataliamundell6266

4 ай бұрын

@@savgy17 farmers , corruption that has lead to temperamental power cuts run by a single company amongst so many other issues

@savgy17

4 ай бұрын

@nataliamundell6266 literally not equal to what's happening in Gaza and what's happening on farms doesn't come close to genocide qhich is happening in Gaza

@nataliamundell6266

4 ай бұрын

@@savgy17 the guy who made the video had a good vid on the topic of south Africa I'm too tired rn to explain it

@caimaccoinnich9594

4 ай бұрын

​@@nataliamundell626670 dead farmers a year? Is that what you mean about farmers? 70...in a country of 60 million

Even looking at Netanyahu face makes me nausea

@NewYorker8312

4 ай бұрын

Looking at Sinwars face make me sick

Why should Germany have a judge in the court, why US, etc. this argument of Israel is nil.

I missed in the overview of genocide cases what China is doing to the Uigurs....Or is that a case that has not been brought forward to that court?

@ajproductions7357

4 ай бұрын

Whataboutism? Grow up

@djdrogs

4 ай бұрын

utterly irrelevant

"many states" backing israel in this? which would that be, besides the US and germany? probably the UK, but are there any others?

@adamdobrer8262

4 ай бұрын

Austria, Australia, Czechia, Guatemala, France, Paraguay, Hungary, Italy, in addition to the UK, US and Germany have issued statements opposing South Africa's case.

@siphomogale779

4 ай бұрын

Kenya, Botswana, Swaziland

@DanielS-zq2rr

4 ай бұрын

Canada supports Israel too

@Farron6

4 ай бұрын

Egypt and Saudi Arabia are assisting Israel by proxy in the Red Sea as well

@Ass_of_Amalek

4 ай бұрын

@@adamdobrer8262 I don't buy france as belonging on that list, doesn't match other statements of theirs that I've seen. otherwise sure, that's a list of backsliding democracies plus guatemala whose recently inaugurated president went to university in israel, so I guess that makes sense. well, france also very much is a backsliding democracy, but the french statement I saw was a commitment to respecting the court's ruling if it rules against israel.

Thank you.

@JamesKerLindsay

4 ай бұрын

Thank you very much.

The irony is, the findings of the Goldstone report are almost entirely validated. I wonder what they threatened him with.

I was so happy to see you were covering this issue. You provide calm, balanced commentary with solid legal and historical context. This conflict is a century-old mess without any black/white except at the extreme edges, forged in colonial arrogance a century ago and then overlaid by generations on both sides who are mostly just trying to live. We can hope that the recent horrors on both sides will produce an opportunity for an historical shift toward some kind of coexistence.

Long Live Palestine! Long Live thé brave! Glory to the Palestinian people!

Wow! Great analysis as always prof!

@JamesKerLindsay

4 ай бұрын

Thank you so much. I really appreciate it!

Yes.

Apakah kita yakin mahkamah internasional adalah mahkamah yang membela keadilan?

None of these allegations would be happening if the open air prison that is Gaza existed in its current form. A militarily overpowering nation has been keeping the lid on the population and left them to be controlled by extremist militias, knowing full well that any military action they take will inevitably cause mass casualties due to the nature of this small strip of land. The Israeli government has show long before the Hamas terror attacks that they do not intend to let these people live lives they enjoy themselves, self-determining and able to make a living on the global markets, so they should not be shocked at accusations of genocide. As with ordinary criminal law, ignorance of laws and committing a crime do not absolve one of these crimes. They knew that in the inevitable event of a major escalation, bombarding Gaza would give them at least temporary safety, and that would always come with the expense of hundreds and thousands of innocent Palestinian lives. Opening talks for a path to a two-state solution would have civilians chances of not only getting rid of extremists, but also spreading across lands they can return to. Israel made it impossible, in essence walking down the path to genocidal acts, and now is rightly getting accused of them credibly. I am speaking from the angle of a citizen of a western liberal democracy, talking to a country that claims to abide by the same rules as us, and thus being above their neighbouring states morally. You don't get to claim to be morally and legally superior and just and throw it all out when inevitable escalation occurs. A reasonable person can see the difference between a country that truly strives towards stable and long peace, and a country that plays an opportunistic game of tit-for-tat with an extremist group in efforts to make a two-state solution improbable. The grand irony is that their cynical leadership makes Israelis more unsafe. They chose to let a rabid dog live chained next door to them instead of treating the symptoms, because it will make them look like a victim instead of an oppressor.

@aimanmarzuqi4804

4 ай бұрын

A very succinct explanation of the situation. Thank you for that Sir

@zaper2904

4 ай бұрын

Oddly after the fifth or so deal offered by Israel then rejected by the Palestinians Israel kind of decided that maybe the Palestinians were not being serious...

@Ricardofromage

4 ай бұрын

​@@zaper2904it's not up to the guests to offer the hosts advice on how to behave at home, if the guests don't like how the hosts behave, the guests should either shut up, or leave. Not steal the house, give the hosts a shed at the bottom of the garden, then proceed to shoot at the shed daily claiming self defense. No one believes your lies anymore, what's happened is disgraceful and disgusting from a people who should know far far better!!!!

@zaper2904

4 ай бұрын

@@Ricardofromage Fully agree. So when are the Arabs going back to Arabia? The Jews want Judea back.

@aimanmarzuqi4804

4 ай бұрын

@@zaper2904 Again, you always ignore why the Palestinians rejected the offer as if the offer made by Israel was just so good that rejecting it would have been criminal. Except, we both know why Palestine rejected all those offers

What countries are all the judges from

@JamesKerLindsay

4 ай бұрын

www.icj-cij.org/current-members

Yes it is. Crystal clear

@NewYorker8312

4 ай бұрын

Crystal clear that Hamas is committing genocide.

Allies should just have given part of the german territory for a jewish State as reparations in the end of WWII.

AN OTTOMON SAYING: "Be careful when an Arab invites you over for dinner. Your name may be on the menu."

@andrigeogiou8420

4 ай бұрын

Right ! Also, they used to say... " NEVER trust a Turk, even if he becomes a " bridge " for you to pass.."

@ihavenojawandimustscream4681

4 ай бұрын

There are also all sorts of unflattering sayings about Americans and Israelis...

The world collective conscience is seared . Only conscious of their hate for the truth .

PA: "We WANT Justice!?" Others*: *Ignored* * Refers to the victims of other conflicts, the past, and the current, like the ongoing Burmese Civil War in Burma/Myanmar.

It’s genocide by any measure and to say that it’s not is to be complicit in its continuation

@user-iz2tq3dx5d

4 ай бұрын

Fool

@NewYorker8312

4 ай бұрын

It is the only genocide in human history in which the population is rapidly growing. Go figure. You also forgot to mention that had it not been for the Hamas terror attack with its rapes, murders, and kidnappings, absolutely NOTHING would be happening in Gaza, just like on October 6th.

FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA is a declaration of genocide.

@caimaccoinnich9594

4 ай бұрын

No it's not

@0816M3RC

4 ай бұрын

​@@caimaccoinnich9594 Yes it is. What do you think the Palestinians intend to do to all of the Israelis between the "river" and the "sea"? Ask them to leave politely? 😂 You are supporting genocide by chanting that slogan.

@mobl7911

4 ай бұрын

@@0816M3RC so Israel is committing genocide because Netanyahu said from the river to the see yesterday, don’t be a hypocrite now

if the ICC aims to prosecute and the ICJ doesn’t, then what’s the point of the ICJ? what have they ever done for anyone?

It would be interesting to know how many of those 7000 children were enemy combatants.

Thanks again Professor Lindsay for producing how thoughtful video. I do however need to point out the major difference with which you spoke about Russia and it's illegal invasion of Ukraine. While trying to seem very neutral discussing this video. You see apprehensive when mentioning the fact that Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International and Btselem (Israeli human rights group) all recognized war crimes committed by Israel. This juxtaposition when comparing to how you decisively you spoke about Russia's illegal war is extremely concerning. This war is emblematic of Western hypocrisy. And it is actually the West that is undermining the rules based International order. You are assisting in this.

@JamesKerLindsay

4 ай бұрын

I deliberately chose a neutral voice because this issue is before the International Court of Justice. Let's allow them to make their decision of whether what we are seeing amounts to genocide. You raised the point about war crimes. However, this is not a discussion about war crimes. It is about genocide. This is an absolutely crucial point and an important difference. (Interestingly, while you feel I haven't gone far enough in my condemnation of Israel, I've also been accused of being overtly antisemitic in several comments.)

@caimaccoinnich9594

4 ай бұрын

I must say that the neutrality that is displayed on this topic does very much concern me since Israel seems to be getting a special pass that other countries don't. The individual acts of genocide are very well attested and even publicised by the Israeli state.

@bettyangel7009

4 ай бұрын

Israel lives in the midst of hostile nations all around them and they have absolute right to self defense.

@786Plotinus

4 ай бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay Again Professor, you are not addressing the real issue. You, along with almost all establishment, intellectuals and elites,- with the exception of John Mearshiemer- were ferocious in their condemnation of Russia. But with Israel, pull punches and give slaps on the wrist. You have to see how this appears to those of us outside of the West. Also, I believe that you are a sincere intelligent man and produce excellent work. That's why I watch your channel. But there seem to be blinders on with Israel.

@caimaccoinnich9594

4 ай бұрын

​@@786PlotinusCouldn't agree more.

Please see The USA Leah’s Human Rights Law 1997 Israel violation’s in 2011 and 2016 Also in 2023-2024 on going Gaza War Self Defence is no Excuse USA May also be Guilty of not Following the rules and regulations Which are binding. Genocide is also against Human Rights.

How on Earth it’s ok for citizens do UK and USA to go to war in Is’el and come back? Is it allowed? To all? How come it’s not a crime for them you know what they do there in Gaza, we all seen those. How on Earth……

What is the verdict.

@Vaultboy-ke2jj

4 ай бұрын

How about you watch the video…?

It is Genocide, as a people who suffered Genocide, they would know what it is.

@NewYorker8312

4 ай бұрын

Not even close to genocide. Unfortunately civilians die in every war. In WW 2 where 20 times as many Germans died as English, was that a genocide too? Hamas wants to see civilian casualties so foolish people will think Israel is committing genocide.

@ora4428

4 ай бұрын

Nope.

The contrast between the opening statesments is kind of amusing. South Africa starts with some waffle about genocide bad and how they don’t want to bring a case, the basically just reads out Israeli and UN officials statements of intent and what’s happening in gaza with a side of some gems like playing the video of Israeli soldiers singing the genocide song (which on it’s own is pretty chilling in that any reasonable millitary should be coming down like a sack of bricks on any soldiers doing that, even if it’s officially forbidden you know war crimes are going to happen if that’s not dealt with). Then you have Isreal talking about how bad the Holocaust was and ranting about how Hamas is evil. Which was all irrelevant to the case?! Very strange, It’s not like the things South Africa was going to bring where a massive mystery, maybe come in with explanations of how the blocking of food shipment is actually very neccisary and not at all related to when the prime minister said all the palestinians need to die?

This is the world just saying hello in there own way "How much did the holla cost"

ABDISALAM from Djibouti