There really is only one topic of discussion this week. The horrific events in the Middle East. But as the situations appears poised to spiral out of control, it really is worth asking what a military approach can hope to achieve beyond immediate retribution. Is any sort of peaceful settlement still possible? And how can we get there? Obviously, this is a really emotive topic that heavily divides opinion. But I’m looking forward to your thoughts and comments.

@SpicyTake

7 ай бұрын

Listening to your recipe for a final settlement and I'm not fully buying it. I think it can be a start but not the end. How does the continued segregation the various peoples of the region correlate with you previously stated liberal world view Prof?

@berkosmansatiroglu

7 ай бұрын

I am investing my money in the USA. From now on, Gaza will be an Israeli beach where only beautiful girls wander, not terrorists. Israel will also sell offshore gas fields to EU countries.

@Todd.B

7 ай бұрын

First, I would have to know what the people involved consider to be peace. The situation has been going on for so long that peace to them might not be the same as what I would consider peace. Second, there's no going back now anyway. Like after 9/11, America had no choice but put an end to ISIS and were accused of many things along the way, so too will it be with Israel. Putin now has all the whataboutisms he could possibly want though.

@dhariamarialurie7646

7 ай бұрын

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@bilic8094

7 ай бұрын

​@@berkosmansatirogluI drove down the main road where I live and noticed police cars parked at Jewish centers I guess preventing vandalizim since the conflict started.

Very, very good explanation, just a minor quibble however professor. The Hamas victory in the 2006 election was hardly overwhelming in terms of the popular vote. They got 44.5% of the vote vs Fatah's 41.4%. The first past the post system awarded them a disproportionate amount of seats but they didn't get that many more votes than their opponents.

@blackwatertv7018

7 ай бұрын

They got voted in with 50% of the vote and canceled elections immediately afterwards and there hasn’t been an election since. That means at least 50% of gazans are opposed to Hamas

@ebrimajallow9631

7 ай бұрын

I been trying to tell this to people who keep saying they all vote for hamas. When they barely won a majority of the vote, it was not a landslide victory.

@DrumToTheBassWoop

7 ай бұрын

@@ebrimajallow9631 Israeli fascist just want everyone to join them in support.

@joelkroodsma4903

7 ай бұрын

Bush kost the popular vote in 2000 but that doesn’t absolve the US from Afghanistan

@nickrails

7 ай бұрын

​@@joelkroodsma4903That is pretty poor logic that seems to be an attempt to justify punishing a civilian population (50% of whom weren't even born at the time of the last election in 2006) for the crimes of terrorists. Collective punishment is a war crime.

I believe it is possible to reach a possible solution if the western countries and US put some pressure on Israel to accept a Palestinian State. What is happening is that Israel is getting unlimited support from the western countries regardless the human violation that is Israel commits against the people of Palestinians.

@ludai602

7 ай бұрын

you unaware Arafat and Abbas reject peace plan everytime?

I think one thing you forgot to consider is that the far-right in Israel is not actually all that popular. It's the complicated demographic challenge, and most importantly Netanyahu himself. The reason he leans on extremists like Ben Gvir is because they are the only ones who'll work with him. His ego is such that he cannot step down, and will do anything to stay in power. People forget that at one time he actually expanded Palestinian control over several areas in his first stint as PM. If this is to be a repeat of 1973, hopefully he will be gone, the personality cult will go with it, and secular liberals can take over again, and get Israel out of this situation.

@JamesKerLindsay

7 ай бұрын

Thanks. Really great point. One can only hope. But it's also worth remembering that he was elected and managed to find enough other parties with his hard-right ideology to be able to form the government. Sadly, there's a lot more of this thinking out there these days than many of us like to admit.

@banto1

7 ай бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay That isn't really true. Netanyahu's party (Likud) is center-right and has many liberal minded people in the Knesset (including Netanyahu). They make up half of the current coalition (32 seats out of 64). The far-right parties (Ben Gvir and Smotrich) only have 14 seats (around 11% of the 120 seat Knesset), but tend to make a lot of noise beyond their actual size. The main partners in the coalition are the Ultra-Orthodox (Haredi) parties, who contribute another 18 seats. These Haredi parties are NOT right wing and will sit in any government (left or right) that will give into the financial demands these parties want for their voters. If Netanyahu wasn't such a sleaze and hadn't managed to piss off every single person he ever worked with, he could have easily formed a solid government with other centrist parties and left all the right-wingers and orthodox parties in the opposition.

@alexanderkowal5710

7 ай бұрын

Do you think there’ll be an election before a peace agreement (obv after a ceasefire)?

@wiseian8473

7 ай бұрын

But he authorized more settlements in the West Bank area.

@wiseian8473

7 ай бұрын

@@banto1 Are you serious? King Davis as he is called, may have started out liberal but is now far from that.

The declaration of war leaves me a bit confused. Is it just a rhetorical flourish like the "war on drugs"? How can a State declare war (legally speaking) against a non-state entity?

@JamesKerLindsay

7 ай бұрын

That is an excellent point on all counts. My view is that it is ultimately a rhetorical flourish. It is more concrete than the "war on drugs" or "war on terror", but this cannot be solved by military means. It needs to go far further than this. Equally, it isn't about merely creating a Palestinian state. So much more also needs to be done.

@markward3981

7 ай бұрын

This is madness. The Zionists are actually declaring war on a people

James we need you to analyze Ambazonia and French Cameroun. The world doesn't seem to understand that Cameroun is still committing war crimes in Ambazonia

Certainly Palestinians must be radicalizad, at least to some extent. But who wouldn’t be, they are living in a prison for the past thee generations, I wouldn’t expect anything better than to see mad dogs inside the cage that Gaza is.

@user-xw3vi4nk2y

7 ай бұрын

Ignoring the lies you propagate, the last part of your statement is poignant. Once a dog has gone rabid, you first and foremost kill it off... then maybe you dwell on why it went rabid.

Once again a well thought out, logical explanation. No passions, no sugar coating, just hard and fast facts. He is a voice of reason.

@davideatwell6577

7 ай бұрын

As a 'voice of reason' which you certainly are, so little heeded? there are passions at work fuelling this situation that have very little to do with reason as we understand it.

@TKUA11

7 ай бұрын

Idk, he doesn’t come up with any solutions just says we need to pump more money into Palestine, and to dissuade people from voting for Hamas. Clearly this hasn’t worked in the past and won’t work this time

The power of the Israeli forces one of the most sophisticated in the world vs a group of poor people with no official army shows the staggering differences of this conflict. Just compare Gaza vs Tel Aviv

If anyone wants a side to take. Take the side of the civilians there the ones Bearing the losses.

@JamesKerLindsay

7 ай бұрын

Thank you. I completely agree. Listening to the stories on both sides this past week has been truly awful.

@nunyabusiness9013

7 ай бұрын

Funny how the Israeli occupation of Palestine is a "both sides" issue when you all willingly condemn Russia alone for conducting the same actions Israel does.

@nunyabusiness9013

7 ай бұрын

If you say Israel has some right to that land because of a 2000 year old bible passage. By that logic Russia also has the right to reclaim all of the former Soviet bloc states. See how that works? Political pandering falls apart with hypocrisy.

@bilic8094

7 ай бұрын

I don't know if I read right but it said more children were killed in 8 days in this conflict than 20 months of war in Ukraine if true that's insane.

@MichaelSmith-qc7nk

7 ай бұрын

​@@nunyabusiness9013The Jewish state are the Israelites of Scripture Prophecy in Jer 30 and 31.

Brilliantly concise analysis that should be used by all major networks to inform and educate. Excellent work as always.

@JamesKerLindsay

7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much Marcus! Really appreciated. I hope all is well at your end.

@egorproserver1218

7 ай бұрын

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@surojeetchatterjee

7 ай бұрын

​​@@egorproserver1218 But Putin singing in different tune bcs of Iran support & Qatar money. 😂 🇮🇳🤝🏻🇮🇱

Stronghold in Gaza? Stronghold in their prison. People don't understand this. They broke out of their illegal prison.

Well in my country Norway, there are substantial communities of Kurds, Albanians, Kazakhs, Chechens, Iranians, Dagestanis, Uzbeks, Ingush, Crimean Tatars, Circassians and Uyghurs, they are all Muslims. But with regard to Israel-Palestine, they all supported Israel. Especially the Chechens, which surprised me when they used to be very conservative. Do you know what? They said that Palestinians "always demand Muslims to support their cause", but "have no qualm about backstabbing other Muslims". While I do sympathise to Palestinians, the Palestinians committed a grave crime: they betrayed other Muslims for their own interests. If you wish to know why, you must remember they backstabbed the Ottoman Empire in 1915 so they could hardly generate support from those Muslims that are aware of this past. Israel's action in Gaza seems to be the ongoing punishment for Palestinian delusion.

@bilic8094

7 ай бұрын

Most of the Muslim countries don't say anything in support of Palestine other than Iran Turkey and Erdogan have been pretty quiet .

@artman12

7 ай бұрын

@@bilic8094 You forgot Pakistan. It’s literally the other country created based on religion and also with the biggest supporter of fundamentalists.

The Israeli Palestinian issue is just something that will never get resolved. Israeli’s continue to ratchet up tension with their actions in the West Bank while Gaza continues to ratchet up tension in return. This makes it all the more politically unpopular for both sides to ever come to the table. Unfortunately, I don’t see any future where things quiet down as long as Gaza exists and right wing Israeli parties continue to support settlements. Quite frankly, we’re pretty much at the point where I can’t imagine any Israeli party pulling the settlers out. It’s easy to say “kill all Palestinians/Israelis” but that’s not gonna happen and is both childish and barbaric logic. The only future I see is the PLO taking a very shit deal for statehood or the status quo forever. The “but they did it first” debate is a waste of time at this point and morality doesn’t trump real world circumstances

@TheHauntedKiwi

7 ай бұрын

Here's the problem with both sidesing. Only one side here has the ability and desire to commit genocide. And actually plan to. Even if the other side has the will, they have no ability to do so.

@veronicamaine3813

7 ай бұрын

Im not sure how Israel ever stood a chance with a literal terrorists group running Gaza. While i do think Israeli government's actions made a bad situation worse, I think their biggest mistake was believing they could contain the threat from Hamas in Gaza's borders. Instead they should have worked harder to undermine Hamas - which would mean supporting a viable opposition (perhaps in exile) and improving the economic conditions there to undermine the attractiveness of supporting them. Instead they did the opposite and made Hama's stronger. However, whats happening now was inevitable as long as Hamas was in power in Gaza. Gaza under Hamas has no chance of anything but poverty and slaughter. But perhaps the saddest think for Palestinians is simply that they are an ideological pawn in Iran's next war -a war that will probably see SA, Israel and Turkey pitched against it, and even possibly India. Iran only has Russia on side, and by that time, they will be a military non-entity. But, by that time, we might find the arab world has bery little reason to cry over Iran's love overdue demise. Time will tell. For now I can only send the weakness of hope and prayers to the innocents caught in this. I pray that the conflict will be swift and casualties limited -though reason tells me the opposite will be true.

@AB-en9pl

7 ай бұрын

right, in order to do that, we would need a democratic binational state@@veronicamaine3813

@blogintonblakley2708

7 ай бұрын

Well that just goes to show that when Israel fought a war to force itself on people that did not want to be governed by Israel... that Israel was committing a crime. That original crime is still going on and Israel wants sympathy while it commits the crime.

@michaelotieno6524

7 ай бұрын

@@veronicamaine3813 Some Israeli politicians thought that the Hamas control of Gaza was the biggest gift since sliced bread and openly celebrated it. Several stories in the Israeli press confirm this. - I think Israel never really wanted peace with Palestinians otherwise there would have been a clear improvement in the circumstances of the Palestinian citizens of the West Bank which is clearly more peaceful and not controlled by Hamas. - Instead Israeli has slowly eroded the rights of those Palestinians living in the West Bank under the control of a government that recognizes and accepts the State of Israel. Evictions of Palestinians in the West Bank has increased on the other hand Israeli settlements on Palestinian lands have increased. - Israel had reached several peace deals with Hamas in Gaza, in exchange of halting rocket fire from Gaza Israel agreed to gradually ease the blockade on Gaza. Hamas honored its end of the bargain but Israel failed to honor the agreement. What is happening now was preventable and death and poverty in Gaza under Hamas was never the obvious outcome. - Hamas is not an Iranian pawn is some imaginary geopolitical ploy, they have always broken with their international backers if and when it suits them. The most recent been the breakdown of relations between Iran and Hamas during the Arab Spring over the Syrian civil war. There have been several Israeli provocations even in the last 1 month prior to Oct 6th. Nightly raids on Jenin refugee camp, unlawful evictions of Palestinians in the West Bank and the opening of Al Aqsa Mosque for Jewish prayer groups. - The Abraham accords remain unpopular with the citizens of the countries which signed them, they are really elitist pacts between Arab dictators and the US. They don't represent a genuine state of peace with Israel. The idea of Saudi and Turkiye joining Israel v. Iran fight is simply too absurd to imagine. India joining in is laughable.

This is a conflict I've followed for many years now, and I thank you for your logical and informed summary of the situation. It gives me great comfort to know that there are presenters like you who can provide a rational analysis of this appalling situation and provide reasonable suggestions for its resolution.

Hope for peace.....peace for hope.......no war....war no....save human being.....God blessed all of us, Amen.

The proportion of the response isn't an issue when the eradication of Hamas is the goal. Your solutions have all been tried before, never work, and just prolong the conflict and allowed it to continue to fester. How long can Israel try to deal with people whose avowed goal is to destroy them?

Excellent analysis, balanced, and thought provoking.

Dear Professor Ker-Lindsay. You are doing a great job at one of the most challenging and delicate topics. I hope a maximum of people will view this short video. You are the best !

I know this is random but your hairline is amazing for a man over 40! Congrats. I've been critical of some of your videos and even in this one I see some points that I would like to debate but overall your content is always quality and top notch. Thank you!

@JamesKerLindsay

7 ай бұрын

Haha! Thanks, on all counts. Suddenly going very grey though. But as an academic, I could have done with that happening a little earlier in my career. :-) And I’m always happy to hear disagreement. As long as it’s polite, I really enjoy having a good discussion and hearing my arguments challenged.

@bilic8094

7 ай бұрын

Plus James is very classy not like many of today's academics and politicians.

The EU resettled around 12mn Ukrainian refugees after the Russian invasion. What is preventing the Arab world from giving refuge to the 2mn Palestinians from Gaza?

@Caro-ys4kk

3 ай бұрын

Your Arab argument makes no sense! The Belgians, the Swiss, the French , are all Europeans, they all speak French! But are they the same people? No! They each have their own country, and eventhough they are all Europeans with common ancestry and culture, they nevertheless still are distinct from each other, each with their own identity! The same logic applies to the Arabs, Iraqis are Iraqis, Palestinians are Palestinians, Saudis are Saudis, Yemenis are Yemenis , etc! Palestinians are Palestinians, Palestine is their historical home, they did not immigrate there from some other Arab country! The same cannot be said about the Jews, most Israelis have ancestry in Eastern Europe, or north America, not the Middle East or levant.

Everyone says Gazze is the most densely populated area in the world, noone seems to wonder why it is such an anomaly. Would you care to explain how the land known as Israel is almost completely Jewish? It was not like that prior to 1948 war. Does that sound natural or the result of ethnic cleansing? The population anomaly in Gazze is the result of the deliberate acts of Israeli state to create a Jewish only country by pushing Arabs out of their homes and lands. Arabs living in the Israel mainland were pushed to south and east. An incredible population was forced into a tiny little strip of land.

@JamesKerLindsay

7 ай бұрын

Thanks. I covered this in the video.

Professor! Does it mean that as usual it was the British who fucked it up and left?

@JamesKerLindsay

7 ай бұрын

I covered all that in another video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dqN4lLeiqbvXdaQ.html. (But, yes, sadly.)

@CCNVB323

7 ай бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay Thank you! I watched that. Like where I am from, Hong Kong and many places such as South Africa, British India, Singapore, Israel.... Basically, the Brit took everything they needed and when they could not handle the chaos, they said Okay...Byeeee! But wait, let me split the land and divide the people even further before I go so that I can secure my future interests. By the way, what does it mean by a Visiting Professor? Are you first a professor at the University of Kent and then you are teaching at LSE but not fully? Very confusing to a layman like me.

The population density of Gaza is around 16,800 per square mile, roughly 14% higher than Greater London, so where 7 people live in London 8 live in Gaza. Gaza has less than 1/3rd the population density of Paris.

@bilic8094

7 ай бұрын

It looks and sounds like Israel wants to overrun it this time fully that could only work if they level the place and deport the population but it won't be easy fighting street to street.

@dannyhughes4889

7 ай бұрын

There is always enough room for peace loving people in Gaza ..... just get rid of the Hamas trash, rebuild Gaza with International assistance and the problem is solved.

@peruano-quichwa---aymara8611

7 ай бұрын

Geez this is insane, Gaza is so dense with such a small size.

@EdMcF1

7 ай бұрын

@@peruano-quichwa---aymara8611 Have you done the calculations? I have on public data.

@artman12

7 ай бұрын

It still has a lower population density than Dhaka or Manila

Love your commentaries, thank you!

It feels like the old Taliban saying “they’ve got the watches, we’ve got the time”. Palestinian statehood is basically a non-starter with Hamas around, so you wonder if this stalemate like situation will continue for several decades more. Might be a question of what can be done merely in terms of damage control

Thank you Professor Ker-Lindsay. I listened to your Q&A session on Red Lines regarding the Moldova/Transnistria Topic. When you participate, the discussion is stronger. I appreciate when your expertise is included.

@JamesKerLindsay

7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! I always enjoy taking part in Red Line discussions. It is a great podcast.

@antwaunrolle6095

7 ай бұрын

You Should do meet up

The very best analysis, as always.

@JamesKerLindsay

7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much. It was obviously a difficult topic to cover for all sorts of reasons.

Thank you for posting this well considered analysis.

@JamesKerLindsay

7 ай бұрын

Thank you. Certainly not an easy topic to cover, especially with emotions - understandably - running so high. But having watched this conflict since I was young (and it was already long-running at that time), it just seems incredibly depressing that we are still so far from a final settlement.

Great video. As I live in Serbia, I have talked about this issue with some people here these days. I realized that people here have very divided opinions on this issue. Perhaps, people see this issue through the lens of their own country's history and territorial issues.

@XerxesZangeneh

7 ай бұрын

Why was there no mention of a secular one state solution? Shouldn’t this at least be discussed given your expertise?

@serronserron1320

7 ай бұрын

I'm not asking you to write a whole paper but in your opinion what is currently going on in Serbia in terms of political tensions?

@phaedon3408

7 ай бұрын

Their own country's history & contemporary developments PLUS their own religion. The latter (religion,) is an unescapable factor since Palestinians and most of their supporters see regional conflicts through their own lens of religion. To be more specific: if a Muslim country attacks Serbia, no Palestinian will support Serbia. Then why a Serb is expected to support Palestinians? On the other hand if Serbia is attacked by the West, then why a Serb should support Israel which is supported by the West? The final answer will depend on the weight attached by each Serb on the religion or on the politics and double standards. Problem is that both the Muslims and the West implement their own double standards policies. No one follows international law or justice. That's why people are divided in this issue. To put it in another way: what is worse for a Serb? The Muslim who never supports Serbia based on justice or the West who never supports Serbia in her own conflicts even in the case where Serbia is a victim of aggression by a third nation? If I were a Serb I would go with the West. At least I may not loose everything in this case. I can't go with Islam because it's a real curse for my country.

@TheShacharZiv

7 ай бұрын

As an Israeli, I'm curious to hear more about Serbia and that region, since among conflicts it seems to me to be the most similar to Palestine -Israel. In a way, the situation in former Yugoslavia today seems like a best -case scenario for Israel -Palestine. The one difference, an correct me if I'm wrong, is that most ethnic groups in former Yugoslavia see the other groups as indeginous and native, while from a Palestinian perspectives Jews are nothing more than foreign settler-colonialists.

@zo2779

7 ай бұрын

Serbia attacked every single neighbour they had. They financed and sent army and paramilitary who committed heinous atrocities in Bosnia.

Always great to hear your take on an impossible situation. Good video.

Thank you so much!! I’ve been waiting for your video of this to share with my family.

I hope the sudden resurgence in violence can force negotiations for a permanent settlement. Call me a cynic but I believe the line '3 days of blood will give us 30 years of peace' applies here. Well done video as usual though James.

@TKUA11

7 ай бұрын

I don’t think anyone should negotiate with terrorists, especially when they still have hostages and decapitate children.

@fahoodie1852

7 ай бұрын

@@TKUA11 are you talking about Israel? After all they are the ones who have detained thousands of Palestinians unjustly and in their hands is the blood of (probably now) 800 children since October 7

As soon as the news broke out, I knew an analysis from the Professor would not be far behind; excellent video. My question is what happens to Saudi Arabia now as both Israel and S.A. from what I heard were reaching agreements on things before things went south?

@eons8941

7 ай бұрын

Check out caspian report on that end

@nunyabusiness9013

7 ай бұрын

Saudi pulled out of negotiations with Israel. They are waiting to see what Israel does in Gaza. Based on Netanyahu's public statements that is unlikely to happen now.

@wlee9888

7 ай бұрын

Saudi Arabia emerges as the greatest winner. They are still going to work with Israel behind the scenes (see: intelligence sharing, shooting down of Yemeni missiles), coordinate with great powers (US and China), and weaken Iran's position, all in order to maximize its own hand in the Arab-Persian cold war + Middle East + global stage. Iran can not risk this blowing up into a full-scale war with Israel as the West will significantly intervene, reducing Hezbollah's war-making capacity and Iran's current influence over Syria/Iraq/Lebanon. This means Hamas is left in the worst position possible, pushing its benefactor for intensification when it does not benefit actually benefit Iran; long-term, Hamas/PalestAuth will be pulled further into the Saudi + GCC orbit. The Saudis will not be able to obtain direct control over Hamas in the short-term, but their influence in Gaza and the West Bank will grow substantially. Let us not forget, Hamas is Sunni and gets a modicum of financial and military support, whereas Hezbollah is Shia and gets the considerable portion of Iran's financial and military aid. Other factors to consider include Turkey's desire, Russia's desire, and China's desire to intervene - however, even in the event of other actors' involvement, I do 100% believe the Saudis come out strongest. MBS must be very happy.

Meanwhile, most ordinary folks wish people would get along. What a pity if we don't.

The simplistic descriptions of this conflict is that the main issue is that Israel and Palestine - are the same place and antithetical. Each with a history to the location. Boiled down it is that simple. And doesn’t require the complications of any further description to justify the actions of one side or the other. Only when “we” collectively take one side or the other do we apply justifications that require ignoring the simple facts and truths of the situation. The levels of irony that people directly out of Nazi concentration camps exposed to ethnic cleansing and genocide - left European countries as refugees under Zionism aims - only to disenfranchise another people, erase their history, bulldoze towns and occupy their homes, pushing them into ghettos and an apartheid state of forth class citizenship or stripping them of any nationhood to be a citizen of. The irony is thick when exposing that lack of empathy. No party involved on the political front of either side is willing to set aside differences that expose the citizens of both sides to terrorism against the other. Which only perpetuates the problems that may never be resolved. And the only aid both seem to accept is weapons to destroy the other.

Professor , do you think there's hope for Fatah to regain control over the strip in the case of Hamas defeat?

@JamesKerLindsay

7 ай бұрын

Thanks. Great question! So much is going to depend on what Israel does now. At this stage, many wonder if Israel will just clear out the territory, in whole or in part and then either settle it or close it off. Assuming that isn’t the case, then it may well be the case that it tries to install a Fatah administration.

Thank you James for the chronology. I feel there is "something in the water" in this area (and a few others around the world) where people are unable to see past the local conflicts and into the big picture. It makes it a fertile ground for "permanent conflict", ensuring a need for presence of the big powers (whenever they need their interests advanced or protected).

This is what happened happens when you colonise a people and you leave them in a open air prison. When they get out they will get revenge in the most brutal ways

If I harbor a serial killer under my roof knowing that he kills people then I am complicit and cannot plead innocence even though I did not participate in the acts. The Palestinian civilians comfort Hamas to their own destruction. My sympathy is with Israel. This is a war between good and evil and the Palestinian civilians should refrain from siding with the evil and evacuate to the South.

@seneca983

7 ай бұрын

"the Palestinian civilians should [...] evacuate to the South" They can't. This would mean going into either Israel or Egypt. Neither country will allow that.

Great video. Thank you professor. As someone who works on Yugoslav and Soviet nationality conflicts I know how difficult it is to remain levelheaded about such complex issues. I will pass on your link to my students in political sociology. Your work is a service to the public. Thank you so much!

@JamesKerLindsay

7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! I really and truly appreciate your extremely kind comments, and am really grateful that you will pass it on to your students. That’s really great to hear. I always hoped the videos could become a useful extra teaching resource. :-)

@Lovric_F

7 ай бұрын

Yugoslav and Soviet nationality? What is that?

Very informative. I love the way you presented the chronology of events.

@JamesKerLindsay

7 ай бұрын

Thank you very much indeed.

Best analysis I've seen. It clearly states that hamas is a terrorist group (something I've seen completely ignored or even justified) - and at the same time, points out all the mistakes Israel's leadership has done. As Israeli, I just wish people would actually watch nuanced videos like this.

@user-vy4xx2qp3d

7 ай бұрын

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter

@lionchampion587

7 ай бұрын

Silence in the face of injustice is complicity with the oppressor. -- Ginetta Sagan

@SpaceMarine500

7 ай бұрын

@@lionchampion587 Yes complicity with Hamas is wrong.

@thelordofnuggets629

7 ай бұрын

uh huh.. so your telling me the people running YOUR news and faking the killings of babies and have massive lobbies which you send millions to are now the oppressed ones? Interesting take.@@SpaceMarine500

@lahoreaskari2651

7 ай бұрын

@@SpaceMarine500 The oppressor for 75 years is Israel, period.

Very hard to do a balanced assessment of this topic. Unfortunately, it seems like this is one of the many intercultural conflicts that will persist until the Earth becomes uninhabitable.

@nunyabusiness9013

7 ай бұрын

So not much longer then.

I imagine the Israeli re-occupation of Gaza is going to go as bad as well as the US occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq.

@mariosathens1

7 ай бұрын

nahhh the Israelis probably will erase Gaza from the map and turn it to no-man zone... They are united and thirsty for blood and destruction after the mass execution of so many unarmed civilians.

@imascrew6218

7 ай бұрын

@@A_R_B_G We saw what they do with weapons maybe less weapons is good for them Learn computers or reasearch or something, yet they all want to be shahid

@iihamed711

7 ай бұрын

Gaza is still internationally recognised as an occupied territory

@mariosathens1

7 ай бұрын

@@iihamed711 Gaza is the "Kingdom" of Hamas since 2008 if i remember well... Not one Israeli boot... So Gazans rule themsleves and brought Hamas/ISIS to power. to rule them, to guide them...

@joqqeman

7 ай бұрын

​@@imascrew6218the education system and job opportunities are renowned in the area...

A Western academic with a resonable view of the Isreali-Arab conflict. Surprising

I have been learning about the conflict in this region for a long time now .A very beautiful explanation about the situation in Israel-Palestine🤝.but prof failed to acknowledge that there is occupation going on.and before any intention to colonize these people, the Jewish and Palestinians lived peacefully side by side .no problem. Ask yourself why was there peace in the early times ?? But after the occupation,the oppression of millions in the West Bank were there is a clear apartheid system were even some roads cannot be used by the Palestinians just like in South Africa. In academia we believe in producing accurate knowledge in a unbiased form,that is what true knowledge is about . Truth is what defines a man 😊

There was a brilliant article written by award-winning Israeli journalist, Gideon Levy who wrote with precision and clarity and argued that Israel just can't imprison 2 million people without paying a heavy price, and that it was Israel's arrogance and the idea that they can do whatever we like, and never pay the price and be punished for it and carried on undisturbed. He also talked about all the crimes committed by Israel and the apartheid regime, which has also been affirmed by international reputable international organizations -- such as Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International as well as former head of the Mossad intelligence agency, Tamir Padro who has said Israel is imposing a form of apartheid on the Palestinians. I think these needed to be included in any conversation concerning this matter.

@TKUA11

7 ай бұрын

I don’t know any apartheid that sends water electricity and food for free into your territory. The problem is that Palestinians just don’t want to accept Israel as a state and until they do, no amount of freedom will help them. They voted for Hamas the same animals that butchered and decapitated babies. Sorry but the wants of the Palestinians are no longer the priority.

Another great presentation. I learn much with every release. It seems that only one side wants peace and a two-state solution.

@nickiseb8910

7 ай бұрын

Security is key. Without security no deal. Hamas is a religion party. They will never honour a 2 State solution and the Jewish State is well aware of that. It's hopeless. Teheran is smiling. The ultra orthodox Jews/settlers are smiling. Religion is the poison in this already difficult stinky swamp. You can make a deal with the PLO and another Israeli government. If Arafat had balls it already happened. The window is always very short.

Great to see your take on this Lindsay

Incredible video. Truly hope there can actually be a resolution.

My concern, as always, is the fate of the most vulnerable. Violence only begets violence, but violence is what many, or most, in power believe the solution to be. Of course, it is not a solution: it is a repetition of more devastation, deprivation, and death. I realize that statecraft is not interested in the concept of universal love, and this may be why we are failing as a people and as a species. Thank you, professor, as always, for an insightful and intelligent analysis of this serious situation.

@TKUA11

7 ай бұрын

Violence is violence but rooting out evil sometimes require violence. Hamas is never going to relinquish power nor are they going to accept Israel as a state. Sending them more money and telling people to not vote for them is another recipe for disaster

Really excellent summary ,much better than traditional media .Thank you.

@JamesKerLindsay

7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much.

I've wondered, but hesitated to ask while folks are riled, how this bombardment and invasion would differ from the four post 2005, and perhaps especially that in 2014? I don't think its the least bit funny that the answer seems to be "now we are really serious and will destroy Hamas". Even if I thought that something likely to be achieved shouldn't the goal be preventing further bloodshed? It seems likely to me that the Palestinian Hamas fighters who attacked on October 7 are young men who were boys who survived in 2014. There are two ways to end a cycle like this and one of them is unspeakable.

Good video. Thanks for clarifying a lot of the information that has been thrown around recently.

@JamesKerLindsay

7 ай бұрын

Thank you very much.

Been looking forward to your opinion on this tragedy for a couple of days now. Met all expectations 👍🏻👍🏻

The thing is, even if Israel defeats Hamas, then what happens next? Create a permanent military presence in the region that will become a logistical nightmare and almost certainly lead to insurgencies? Arrest all Hamas leaders, leave the region, and then wait for a similar-minded group to take over? Force most people out to Egypt, create settlements, and then annex the region? I never believed a two-state solution was realistically possible, both groups are too intertwined (especially in the West Bank). I would favor a model similar to what has been proposed for Cyprus where there would be a loose confederation of two states where each group would retain a wide degree of autonomy to take care of its own affairs. Also, Zionism needs to either end or be substantially altered. The idea that you are entitled to a piece of land because your ancestors lived there 2000 years ago has no place in our modern society. By that same logic, what stops the Greeks from start claiming Constantinople or the Germans with eastern Poland? Providing refuge to Jews who are suffering genuine persecution in other parts of the world is fine as long as they are put in Israel proper. But sadly neither side seems to consider this possibility. Hamas is a terrorist group that needs to be eliminated but the Israeli government has been falling increasingly into authoritarianism and throwing gasoline into the fire over this conflict. And let's not forget Israel has illegally annexed part of another country's territory (Golan Heights) which they show no intention of ever returning.

@DanielM-tu8xn

7 ай бұрын

I think you are misleading as for the zionist claim: 1. There was always through history a continuous jewish community living in this area of the world. Mostly in the larger ancient cities. 2. The jewish people were expelled out of Israel by foreign invaders but have always called for return. 3. The jewish people were victims of mass prosecution, with the Holocaust being the final proof of the need of a jewish state. 4. People peacefully immigrated to this area, buying lands off of arab people. 5. And this is my personal claim: who decides who does a land belong to? The arabs got there during conquests too no? So it is who ever wins the land by force that gets it? By this logic Palestinians don't have a claim over Palestine. Also back then population was dispersed mostly in small city state-like order. The actual communities lived in tiny areas. Why did they have a claim to the whole land then? The Negev desert which consists the majority of land area in modern Israel was virtually empty. Do the Palestinians also have a claim to it too? The thing is that people are trying to hold modern standards to a period of time when the idea of a nation state was rather new, and the whole concept of a country and nationality was not the same. Even the word Palestinian as describing Arabs living in this land came to be post 1967. The only way to solve it is to accept that either the Jews not the Arabs are going anywhere and we need to mutually except each other being there, uproot the extremes and the fundementalists and seek long standing solution

@markdowding5737

7 ай бұрын

@@DanielM-tu8xn 1- So? I was not disputing the right of those people to live there 2- I can literally use that same argument for countless other groups (Ex: Greeks and Constantinople) 3- “being the final proof of the need of a jewish state” The need for a state should not come at the expense of other people’s land. 4- I am not talking about those cases. I am talking about the forced appropriation of somebody else’s land (be it now or in the past). Why should a jew from Brooklyn who has a very high paying job in the US should be allowed to move in, not to Israel but to illegal settlements in the West Bank, at the expense of Palestinians because “a 3000 year old book says so”? 5- “So it is who ever wins the land by force that gets it?” We no longer live in a world where that mentality is acceptable. Israelis are entitled to govern themselves within their internationally recognized borders but not anything beyond that. When I said Zionism needs to end I meant that Israel needs to understand that this is not an acceptable or even sustainable policy, especially when it's done in the illegal manner that Israel has been practicing in the occupied regions of the West Bank. “The only way to solve it is to accept that either the Jews not the Arabs are going anywhere and we need to mutually except each other being there” You are 100% right. Sadly, both sides seem to have become increasingly more extremists as the years have gone by.

@DanielM-tu8xn

7 ай бұрын

@@markdowding5737 thank you for having a civil and an intellectual discussion with me. 1 - so you do agree with the idea of the Jewish people deserve a land in Israel? that's zionism. 2 - the difference is that the Jewish people maintain a clear continuous will to return to Israel while in exile, unlike most political entities. 3 - I agree that "I was harmed, so I can harm others" is not a valid argument, but it is not the one I'm making. I'm saying there was a need for the Jewish people to have a national home. any other place but the historic land, that already have Jewish communities, would be a wrong choice. Back then the vast majority of the land was utterly empty - there was no shortage of space to share the land. but sadly it was always the Palestinians that rejected any peace deal or two state solution, choosing terror organization as political leaders and completely rejecting the legitimacy of Israel to exist. Israel is no saint either, but this is another discussion. 4 - this I agree, I don't like the settlement policy Israel has been pushing in recent years either. Though the whole goal of Israel is to be a home for the Jewish people regardless of where they are - so I don't see a problem of anyone moving into the fully sovereign parts of Israel. 5 - on the contrary, I'm saying this is not a valid claim. I'm stressing that claims on land are complex and a lot of people are using modern eyes while looking at very old claims, in a time where the Idea of a nation state with a clear border was only born. especially in the middle east where society was organized very differently. to be clear - I'm supporting a two state solution as long as there are guarantees for Israel's security, so that a thing like a failed terror state on the border, like Gaza, won't happen again

@markdowding5737

7 ай бұрын

@@DanielM-tu8xn 1- No. I believe that jewish people who were born in Israel deserve to live in the region in peace, regardless of how their parents or grandparents came to the land. 2- Russia also shows immense will to incorporate parts of Ukraine into Russia proper, which they believe it is historical Russian land. Is Russia right because of their will then? 3-“Back then the vast majority of the land was utterly empty” There were over half a million arabs when Britain took over the Palestine mandate. I wouldn’t call it exactly empty. Just to ad an important piece of information. I don’t consider Jewish people an ethnic group, just a religion. Maybe that was indeed the case 2000 years ago but as they spread across the world and mingled with other groups, adopted different costumes and traditions, and developed their own unique history, they lost the homogeneity required to be considered an ethnic group. The only thing that unites all these people is a sense of belonging to the same broad religion (and even with this they have different interpretations of the same religious texts). Israel in fact also allows converts to Judaism to do the Aliyah, so the Zionism project is not just about an alleged ethnic right to the land

@DanielM-tu8xn

7 ай бұрын

@@markdowding5737 what? The Jews are not an ethnic group? They held stuck and kept the Hebrew as the ceremonial language, have unique customs, holidays, set of values (about family, education, society, philosophy etc.) ,maintained the same national aspiration, and even unique in DNA as being completely different from the different whereabouts. How can this not count as an ethnic group? Judaism as a religion is only a small part of the Jewish identity. I STRONGLY disagree with this claim of yours, completely unbased.

It was useful as usual. Thank you Prof Ker-Lindsay

Professor,this is ongoing, unless West finds an amicable Solution....nothing is going to change. Forget PALESTINIANS, don't Israelis want to live in Peace. Life is not barricades,life is free space, meeting n greeting ,knowing others,sharing a meal together,that is real life.

Great analysis

Thank you for the video, Professor. Don't you think that if Palestinians were to be given a recognized official state by the UN, that is no less than Gaza and West Bank, would calm them down? In other words, people (inside Palestine and their sympathizers) would have a case to abandon support for the so called "Hamas resistance against Israeli colonialism" , which would leave Hamas alone if they decided to keep fighting. What do you think about this possible cascade of events knowing that the majority of the Arabs and Muslim world is fed up with this never ending war and yearn for naturalization with Israel?

@khairulhelmihashim2510

7 ай бұрын

statehood is just a partial solution to diffuse the tension. There are issues on displaced Arab refugees from 1948 and 1967 wars. Certainly these refugees and their descendants won't be contented by just having statehood given on any particular territory. All they care is to return their land/property or fairly compensated for their losses.

Yes! It must be resolved rather than managed. You are totally correct.

I have a question: Israeli settlement activities are illegal under israeli domestic law too? Is this true? (thank you)

Was hoping for more information on the run-up to recent events (as you mentioned, tensions in the West Bank have been high for a while). This year has seen the highest number of Palestinians killed by Israel in 10 years, and that was before October began.

@ec1480

7 ай бұрын

Hamas literally called its operation "Al-Aqsa Flood"...

@ec1480

7 ай бұрын

@@droomankaas5904 the mosque built over the temple mound is called "Al-Aqsa Mosque" and was the sight of clashes with the IOF in April

You skipped over how Hamas was elevated and even funded by Netanyahus administrations so that they didn’t have to negotiate peace with Palestinian groups that are more reasonable

@JamesKerLindsay

7 ай бұрын

Thanks. There’s been a lot of speculation about this. Sometimes it’s just better not to engage with theories until there is firm evidence. It is very easy to go down the path of conspiracy theorising. I prefer to err on the side of caution and not feed unsubstantiated claims - even if ultimately they are proven right. Many are not.

@Mira11.

7 ай бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay It’s not speculation anymore .There is a video where natanyahou talks about his worst regret which is creating Hamas . He created Hamas to counteract Yasir Arafat/PLO.In March 2009 in a Knesset , He said “anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas”. Natanyahou also said “This is part of our strategy to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank “. Do your research .

I consider myself well versed in the conflict but I’ve never understood why the demand is to return to ‘67 borders and not ‘48 according to the partition plan. Anyone know?

Absolutely, it is indeed time for Israel to acknowledge the suffering of Palestinians, restore their human dignity, and come to terms with the dark history of their occupation of Palestinian land.

How you you feel about the idea of UN intervention and establishing a permanent base on the Temple Mount to separate Jews and Muslims (similar to Cyprus)?

@andrigeogiou8420

7 ай бұрын

Brow . What do you know about Cyprus .? Anyway . The north part of the island, is occupied by Turkey since 1974 MILITARY OCCUPATION . Turkey, ..using the very similar excuses, like the Russians ,on our days, for to excuse their invasion in Ukraine. For to save their minority. Invaded the island, and since 1974, is half almost occupyed .Kicked us Cypriots out from our homes, villages and towns, been replaced us till today. mainly by Turks settlers from its mainland . IGNORING ,of all of the UN resolutions about peace and justice for the island, is even trying today to turn of those occupyed areas . our homes, villages and towns, in to a separate recognise state . It was actually so ridiculous , seen/ hearing the Turkey's president, only about two months ago, addressing the UN security council, dimanting from them , to finally recognise , the occupyed areas of Cyprus, as a state . NEVER even bothered about the values and principles of the UN . On the island of Cyprus, it was NEVER an official separation of Muslims and Christians . Is a result of ..WAR CRIME

@serronserron1320

7 ай бұрын

?I think that will go terribly.Y ou'll have terrorist attacks and sabotage from both Jewish and Muslim extremist groups and you'll have international politics saying that every decision is wrong.

@alexandrosnaoum1318

7 ай бұрын

UN intervention with success... More possible possible is to seat in a table Ukraine and Russia with success, than this.

@thebookkeeper8551

7 ай бұрын

I don't think there should be an intervention to keep them apart but rather they should ban religious worship and turn the whole site (including the christian section) into a museum just like Mustafa Ataturk did with the Hagia Sofia. Will there be backlash and protest against this measure? Yes. They should also implement penalties if either group (Muslims, Christians, and Jews) intents or tries to perform any kind of worship on the site, like a fine or a ban. That is by far the best solution!

@serronserron1320

7 ай бұрын

@@thebookkeeper8551 There are around four and a half billion people that are culturally and religiously connected to that area. And there's at least 600 million that are devoutly religious that would certainly fight to keep the holy land holy.

What does it mean, precisely, that access to water is blocked? Are we looking at mass death by dehydration, already underway? Are we talking about slightly-accelerated depletion of aquifers, that won't have any real impact for years? Presumably somewhere in between, but what?

@banto1

7 ай бұрын

There is plenty of water from local wells and pipelines from Egypt that supply water to Gaza. Israel has simply stopped selling water to the political entity (Hamas) that needs to pay for that water, but has decided to declare war on Israel instead. Btw, Hamas has shot thousands of missiles towards Ashkelon (north of Gaza) trying to destroy the power plant that supplies Gaza with electricity and the desalination plant that supplies water to Gaza.

@Ajsyujkkkkkkkk

7 ай бұрын

@@banto190% of water in Gaza is unsafe to consume. Denying clean water supply goes against the Geneva convention, I think Article 4.

@Ajsyujkkkkkkkk

7 ай бұрын

@@banto1and yeah, Hamas don’t care for their population- big surprise.

Great stuff again Professor. Rational thoughts.

Absolutely brilliant explanation as usual. The concision and substance packed in are truly impressive.

@JamesKerLindsay

7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much.

Always with the unanswerable question...Can Israel win an unwinnable war? By definition, no. Unwinnable means exactly that, but what's the definition of winning? There in lies the answer to the question. Israel can win a military victory in Gaza. Israel might be able to cobble together a unified coalition politically within Israel due to Hamas' attack...is that winning? Israel will certainly suffer a diplomatic hurt from its bombing of Gaza, but seeing as Israel is perennially in the "hot seat" diplomatically, does it matter all that much? What is the UN going to do...vote a worthless censure that'll be vetoed by somebody? The UN has failed dramatically and continually in the Middle East as to not even exist...any gains have been through individual countries making an effort, certainly nothing the UN has done, so why even worry about what the UN wants or doesn't want ? Unfortunately, there is nothing to be done as long as religious fanaticism and tribal rivalries exist. As one faction makes gains towards a peaceful settlement, another faction tears those efforts apart. Israel has no choice but to respond to Hamas' attack with overwhelming brutality as it is the only thing Hamas understands. Israel will not be able to cleanse Gaza of fanaticism, in fact this will only harden the fanatics resolve to get revenge at some other time...and the cycle continues, but what other choices are there. This is the region of an eye-for-an eye, blood for blood and no amount of modern political discussion is going to smooth that over.

@serronserron1320

7 ай бұрын

Well if they go too far with the cleansing of people they dislike. They risk the financial and military aid that they get from other countries like the billions of dollars that they receive from the United States. They will lose trade with their neighbors which is crucial to the success of their economy. And other consequences that one can only guess at.

@TheShacharZiv

7 ай бұрын

Israel has already won 1 unwinnable war in the 2nd intifada. It took at least 3 years which I expect is the minimum to win this war.

@TheShacharZiv

7 ай бұрын

​@@serronserron1320 The main risk in internal. You'd be surprised but there are quite a few Israelis who believe Palestinians are humans and have rights.

@behroozkhaleghirad

7 ай бұрын

As an Iranian, I regretfully totally agree with you.

@serronserron1320

7 ай бұрын

@@TheShacharZiv Palestinians look human to me but that's just my opinion.

The region map was drawn by outsiders trying to solve their own immediate problems. There's only one solution but nobody in charge wants it.

@randashoukry

7 ай бұрын

what?

@ennz2798

7 ай бұрын

​@@randashoukrywar

@user-dp5ve5zn7t

7 ай бұрын

"immediate problems"? this was being planned for more than a half century & why would they be interested in solving it.

great job on the video, however i still question why you didnt include 1947 nakba

Great view and great video!

The Palestinian cause must be supported and the Palestinian people must be protected

@ianhomerpura8937

7 ай бұрын

Free Palestinians from far right fundamentalism by Hamas.

This is an excellent summary, thank you. May I ask, why is virtually no one talking about Israel's recent bombing of Damascus and Aleppo, do you think?

@TheShacharZiv

7 ай бұрын

Israel has been doing that for at least 10 years now, bombing emunition coming to Syria from Iran. It will be interesting if and when the war with Hezbollah and/or Iran starts full scale.

@DemPilafian

7 ай бұрын

Do you seriously not know the reason why? Do you think it's funny playing stupid on such an important geopolitical topic? It's because there are terrorist there who keep attacking Israel.

@regular-joe

7 ай бұрын

@@DemPilafian No, I think you did a poor job of reading. My question wasn't why is Israel targeting them, my question was about the poor coverage it's getting, even after they admitted doing it.

@DemPilafian

7 ай бұрын

@@regular-joe Your _"question"_ was not really a question. It was a statement dishonestly wrapped up as a question. You people have a hard time stating the truth directly. I cut thru the BS. You need to be a better person.

@regular-joe

7 ай бұрын

Your tin foil hat is warping everything you see and hear. Let us know when you take it off👍. Edit: That was immoderate of me. I'll rephrase. My question was written in good faith and meant exactly what it said. I am like many of us struggling to find our feet in this quicksand topic. I regret that you took it to mean anything else.

A summary of history and events, well presented in a short time

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee GOOD JOB ISRAEL

Professor, a two state solution is impossible. There is only a one state solution like South Africa with a truth and reconciliation board and right of return for Palestinians as well as Jews, and compensation for living Palestinians who lost their homes and jobs. The name of the country will likely need to become Israel-Palestine to show this.

@khairulhelmihashim2510

7 ай бұрын

one state solution will require great deal of sacrifice for Israelis. they have to: - drop any effort to make Israel a Jewish state - maintaining status quo of Temple Mount/Al-Aqsa mosque - repeal law of return, enabling all person with Jewish blood to become citizen - provide economic assistance program/affirmative actions for disadvantageous Palestinians

They outsmarted the most advanced and sophisticated surveillance technologies man has ever made. What were civilians doing on the borderline of a war zone? Human shields? Partners in the crime of the blockade?

Prof, don't you think that if the Palestinians elect a more moderate government and begin to criminalise Hamas that the Israelis will be more accommodating and that this could lead to improved relationships and stability?

@JamesKerLindsay

7 ай бұрын

Thanks. I would like to think so, but there is little sign of that happening, on either score. Hamas is holding on to power in Gaza, and I’m really not sure that the current Netanyahu Government would want to pursue a full settlement, even if things changed. It will take a lot of outside effort.

@georgiossgk7384

7 ай бұрын

They have a more moderate government in West Bank, it's called the Palestinian Authority, and the Isrealis have become so accommodating that they build more settlements in occupied territories.

There is one fact I think you need to know. Future dictator of North Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh, asked David Ben-Gurion to establish a Jewish government in Hanoi if they could not achieve the dream of returning to the promised land. Ben-Gurion, who had thanked Ho but declined, stating that Israel "shall be born in the promised land". Imagine what would happen had Israel failed to prevail in 1947-48 war, maybe we might have had a Jewish exiled state in Southeast Asia for a while.

Amazing synopsis thank you sir

Well, everyone knew since Saturday the subject of today's episode...

@bilic8094

7 ай бұрын

It's good James did this video I think it will get massive viewership.

@serronserron1320

7 ай бұрын

I wanted to talk about Burma or New Guinea

More details on some the points touched upon in this video: > The Palestinians rejected the 1947 UN plan then Arabs declared war The United Nations plan allotted 2/3rds of Palestine to Jews, while Jews were less than 1/3rd of the population. Also, more than 2/3rds of those Jews were migrants or refugees who had arrived in the past 20 years. That's right, the UN plan wanted Arabs to give over most of Palestine to a minority population who mostly had no recent roots in the Middle East. At this time, most of the refugees and migrants were not Middle Eastern, but instead either European Zionist settlers or European refugees from the Holocaust and other antisemitic actions. It is absolutely not surprising that virtually no Arabs supported this plan which is ludicrous on its face. The Arabs at the time supported a unitary state of Palestine (as opposed to a "two state" solution) and this unitary state had been the goal of British policy in Mandatory Palestine since 1937. However, that's not to say Arabs didn't also have their own somewhat “selfish” reasons for supporting that solution, since they would be a majority in any unitary state. They could potentially easily limit further Jewish settlement in Palestine, and evidently, they wanted to do this. But Jewish leaders also had their own plan if they got to implement the UN plan, which was mass migration of Jews into Palestine and slow ethnic cleansing of the last third that they did not control until they could achieve a Jewish state in all of Palestine. I am not kidding, that was their plan. And it's easy to see given the situation today that after the Nakba, this policy has to some extent been implemented in Israel proper and the West Bank. The Arab nations (and Palestinians) rejected out of hand a colonialist solution handed down by people who had no idea about anything going on in the region. Literally the entire war that eventually led to the Nakba began because of the UN plan. This is an extremely important part of the history because this led to the creation of the modern state of Israel! > Palestinians keep rejecting all proposals • the Oslo accords of the mid-1990s would have led to peace had it not been for the assassination of the Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Rabin in 1995 by Israelis. • The 1998 Wye River Memorandum and its commitment to further Israeli withdrawals from the West Bank would have been implemented if only the Israeli Labor party had joined Benjamin Netanyahu’s coalition to back the agreement. • The Camp David summit in July 2000 would have succeeded if the US had been less sensitive to Israeli domestic concerns, insisted on a written Israeli proposal, consulted the Arab states at an earlier phase, and taken the more firm and balanced position adopted half a year later. Both parties could have accepted the Clinton parameters with only minimal reservations had the proposal not been presented so fleetingly, as a one-time offer that would disappear when Clinton stepped down less than a month later. • The negotiations in Taba, Egypt, in January 2001 were on the brink of agreement but failed because time ran out, with Clinton just out of office, and Ehud Barak facing almost certain electoral defeat to Ariel Sharon. • The two major peace plans of 2003 - the US-sponsored road map to peace in the Middle East and the unofficial Geneva accord - could have been embraced had it not been for a bloody intifada and a hawkish Likud prime minister in power. • Direct negotiations between the Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas and Netanyahu in 2010 could have lasted more than 13 days if only Israel had agreed to temporarily halt construction of some illegal settlements in exchange for an extra $3bn package from the United States. • Several years of secret back-channel negotiations between the envoys of Netanyahu and Abbas could have made history if only they hadn’t been forced to conclude prematurely in late 2013, because of an artificial deadline imposed by separate talks led by secretary of state John Kerry. • the Kerry negotiations of 2013-2014 could have led to a framework agreement if the secretary of state had spent even a sixth as much time negotiating the text with the Palestinians as he did with the Israelis, and if he hadn’t made inconsistent promises to the two sides regarding the guidelines for the talks, the release of Palestinian prisoners, curtailing Israeli settlement construction, and the presence of US mediators in the negotiating room. > Lebanese Civil War If anything the Palestinians were the victims of the Lebanese civil war. I find it really weird how history was rewritten online to revamp the cause of the civil war from; "complicated sectarian tensions stemming from the creation of Lebanon causes civil war" to "Palestinians arrive to Lebanon, cause trouble, civil war occurs" . The Lebanese civil war is an extension of the often forgotten 1958 Lebanon crisis/civil war (A good explanation - kzread.info/dash/bejne/hYCjlbaTn9bQY9o.html). The arrival of the PLO while a contributing factor (I would argue is a minor one) , would be equivalent to attributing the Lebanese protests to the whatsapp tax rather than longstanding grievances with political corruption. Without having to go into a in-depth explanation as to what the 1958 Lebanon crisis was and its role in catalyzing the Lebanese civil war . The point is that by the time the PLO began arming in Lebanon, not only had the country already begun fracturing (and had been for at least a decade), but several sectarian militias had already been arming. The Lebanese right wing , which had dominated Lebanese politics for decades (Camille Chamoun comes to mind) openly called for the "cleansing" of Palestinians years before the Lebanese civil war even started. The right wing Guardian of Cedars (which was born out of the Party of Lebanese Renewal - which itself was itself established in 1969, years before the PLO had any tangible presence in Lebanon), made their intentions with the Palestinians pretty clear. "From 1973 on, their slogans were plastered on the walls of ‘Ayn al-Rummana in Beirut - “No Palestinian will remain on Lebanese soil,” or “A good Palestinian is a dead Palestinian.” - A Special Correspondent "“There Is No Room for Any Palestinian in Lebanon”," Middle East Report 118 ( ). Etienne Saqr, the founder of the Guardian of the Cedars again openly stated "There is no room for any Palestinian in Lebanon - no Palestinian baby, no Palestinian woman. No Palestinian will remain on Lebanese soil. That’s final. They have a problem, so let them go to their Arab brothers since they claim them as brothers. I cannot accept a half million Palestinians in my house. Not only soldiers; I don’t accept civilians either. It’s not just a military problem; it’s also a demographic problem" - (Same source as above) Simply put anyone who blames the Palestinians for arming in Lebanon given such circumstances and the fact that everyone else had already begun arming as well, has to crack open a history book.

If they act like Syria and Russia or Iran it's perfectly winnable. Question is : will they go that far ?

Thanks for pointing out the real problems and promoting the real solution👍, rather than just spreading hate.

The one issue most people forget about is the British involvement in this matter, and in my perspective the British was the cause of this endless conflict between the Israelis and Palestinians. Following the end of the Ottoman empire, countries was formed such as Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon, Jordan and yet Palestinians wasn't able to purely because of the British involvement. During WW1, the British ask Mecca for help in a military campaign to defeat the Ottoman from Egyptian side in exchange with promise of lands of Syria, Jordan and Iraq, and at the end of the war, they gained nothing. It was also during this time the British also made a promise to the Israelis for support of forming a nation. The British made promise to both peoples that lands should be theirs and without the understanding of this core issues, the war will never end. I believe both people and religion have the right to share that land, the killing is unnecessary, the west must stop supporting Israelis and this is the only way for peace. The Israelis were there long ago, and the Muslim were thereafter, to both people that land is home, continue to supporting Israelis will only embolden the rightwing of Israelis to carry out more genocide against the Palestinians.

Thanks for the video professor, obviously thinking about those who lost their lives in the most horrific of ways. I think you’ve correctly framed this as a major turning point, an unprecedented large-scale terror attack with limited military objectives, shattering any remaining legitimacy Hamas had to rule Gaza in the eyes of the international community and prompting the largest war in the Levant since 1973. Israel is seemingly determined to clear Gaza of Hamas block by block, tunnel by tunnel and has stated it is prepared for a lengthy slog of urban warfare. Based on that, it does seem safe to say that the status quo since the events of 2005-07 seems to have been shattered. Other than that, it seems impossible to predict what happens, and I definitely agree that the delicate issue of the post-war fate of Gaza and its population is incredibly important, something Israel needs to be putting its best diplomatic and strategic minds on immediately. There will be a fleeting golden window of opportunity to “win the peace”. Israel needs a single plan that all arms of the government are acting upon (avoiding America’s main errors in Iraq circa 2003), and it will only have a few months to get it right. The other question is Iran. Although they are seemingly not directly implicated in the operation itself, these attacks used such sophisticated tactics that to my mind seem unlikely without some form of Iranian support and planning. Furthermore, the incentive for Iran to try and wreck the long-awaited Israel-Saudi Arabia normalization deal is quite strong. If Iran was involved it looks like it may have backfired, but we’ll have to wait to see the long-term consequences. Thanks for the video professor and for not downplaying the unprecedented scale and abhorrent nature of this attack. The reactions of a thankfully-limited few in western countries have ranged from disingenuous to disgusting in my view, but as always you bring a measured perspective to events.

I respect your analysis and opinion.

Thank You- I always appreciate your knowledgeable and insightful reports

@JamesKerLindsay

7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much. I really appreciate it!

Great overview. One new development to be considered: Israel has been developing tactics and equipment for urban warfare since they discovered mechanised infantry doesn't cut it when they tried to use it in Gaza in 2014. No doubt they have a plan in place if they can empty Gaza of non-combatants. They can't of course, but the plan has its own momentum. Those tunnels and hard-points that Gaza is reputedly riddled with are going to face an entirely new form of attack. It risks world revulsion. There are no winners in this war.

@JamesKerLindsay

7 ай бұрын

Thank you. Great point. I certainly can’t imagine that Israel hasn’t thoughts all this through. But, as you say, it’s likely to be extremely controversial. It could also be that having ordered everyone out, it just goes completely scorched earth. And I fully agree that there are no winners in this war. The question is what can be done to get the peace process back on track to a successful conclusion.

The truth is that in order to establish the national states many people lost their motherland. Except for that, many countries lost their territories because of a war. We have to adapt in order to keep going. There are no negotiations without compromise. Palestinians should compromise with a idea of a Palestine in West Bank and Gaza. Israelis should compromise with an independant Palestine in these lands. Otherwise, we can't reach a settlement

@spanian7521

7 ай бұрын

Problem is Palestine in those territories instead of building their country having being supplied with Water, Food , Pipes, Concrete etc using them for underground military bases to create weapons to annihilate Israel...

@DemPilafian

7 ай бұрын

That's what the previous peace negotiations already tried! And every time Yasser Arafat would change his mind at the last moment and walk away. Arafat was a warlord not an elected politician.

Very well presented information. Thank you

@JamesKerLindsay

7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much.

Very good analysis professor. Thank you again. I hope this piece of land will ever know peace.

Thanks for making my head spin. Our story always seems to begin around the 1940's. We can only hope there aren't more world actors out there thinking that thing we've always wanted to do, now might be a good time to do it.

@nunyabusiness9013

7 ай бұрын

Nuclear war is humanity's destiny. From the moment the arms race began it was a done deal. That's why Oppenheimer was so disturbed for the remainder of his life. He knew he had opened Pandora's box and sealed our fate.

As a half-Indian and given the fact that India is the biggest ally of Israel, I can tell you the impact is huge. In fact, many Indians, empowered by radicalisation of Narendra Modi's government, also demonstrated in support for Israel and there are even reports that Azerbaijanis and Turks have to avoid Indians in pro-Israel rallies due to being attacked by Indian nationalists who accused them of fake solidarity and Erdogan's soldiers (Erdogan is a notorious Hamas backer while Turkey and Azerbaijan share a rabid pan-Turkist ideology), shows how much the situation of Gaza impacted the world. In my side I only wish that Israel and Palestine can compromise for good sake. But what happened in Israel and Gaza will no longer be the same anymore.

@HopefulInterventions

7 ай бұрын

Azerbaijan and Turkey my enemies 😢

@davidbowie5023

7 ай бұрын

@@HopefulInterventions Turkey and Azerbaijan have already accused India of helping Greece, Bulgaria, Kurds, and Armenia arming with Israeli weapons recently, especially the two latter. However, because India is Israel's biggest ally, this raised deep alarm unseen before, especially in Azerbaijan. Few months before the vicious assault, Azerbaijan has demanded Israel to explain why Armenian military is receiving Israeli weapons when Armenia and Israel have no military tie, a question Israel refused to answer. Azerbaijan doesn't have the power to prevent India from keep transferring weapons and so like Turkey, it has chosen to support Pakistan, a country with a deep hatred against Israel, to fight India. Unfortunately their decision to court Pakistan for this ended up playing a key role why Israel tacitly allowed India to send its weapons to Azerbaijan and Turkey's enemies.

@peruano-quichwa---aymara8611

7 ай бұрын

Isn't Azerbaijan the second largest buyer of Israeli arms? How did they come up clashing against India now?

@davidbowie5023

7 ай бұрын

@@peruano-quichwa---aymara8611 It's the second largest, behind none other but India itself. However, India is hostile to both Turkey and Azerbaijan for backing Pakistan over Kashmir, so India opted to respond by supporting Greece, Bulgaria, Kurds and Armenia. Yet the two latter, especially with Armenia case, is unique because of ancient bond, so India has no issue sending weapons for Armenia. However, India is Israel's biggest ally. This is why Azerbaijan and Turkey are so frightened. With tons of Israeli arms likely to fall to the hands of Armenians, Kurds and Greeks, it may signal that Israel is not a friend of Turkey and Azerbaijan and that Israel used India for the matter. Of course, Turkey being a backer of Hamas also made no sense for Israel to trust both of them and explained why Israel is relying on India for a hidden message, something that certainly enraged Azerbaijan and Turkey a lot.

@bilic8094

7 ай бұрын

I thought India's number 1 ally is Canada 😂.

Unfortunately there was a paradox implicit here in the presentation that went unresolved and even unaddressed: Hamas effectively cannot be defeated and as 'spoilers' cannot be part of the solution. How then is a realistic and lasting settlement going to happen?

How come you forgot the illegal settlements in westbank