The fact that Issac doesn’t need to eat but still agrees to have dinner shows some emotional appreciation.

@bobblum5973

Жыл бұрын

He understands the social aspect of a shared eating experience, in his own way.

@Icebergeification

Жыл бұрын

I think he understands it would be seen as offensive not to do so more of a cost vs gain decision

@bobblum5973

Жыл бұрын

@Icebergeification That sounds like a factor in his decision, definitely. But that's just one of many that combine to give the result. One of the most interesting concepts in science fiction is to have an alien life form that is not human interacting with humans. It lets us step outside of who we are, to better understand ourselves.

@Rkenton48

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure the simulation allows him to eat digital food.

@bryanwoods3373

Жыл бұрын

They used to date, so he does understand the offer is more than just eating together.

It takes a very special and talented actor to play a (technically) emotionless character, Spinner did it and now we have this, to be able to express a desire to be liked without actually expressing a desire to be liked.

@punishercastle5487

Жыл бұрын

A wonderful spiritual successor to Data if you ask me

@IronheartvsMiles

11 ай бұрын

Not really.

@MGTOWforthewin

5 ай бұрын

It would be fascinating if universes connected briefly and the TNG Data and he could meet and interact. 😊

Isaac is like the outsider, observing the interactions within a group yet not understanding them directly. His methods of joining in may be different, but as we see here, they are not incompatible. There's a saying about "doing the right thing for the wrong reason"; Isaac simply did the right thing for a different reason, benefiting himself _and_ Topa.

@tenjenk

Жыл бұрын

the important thing to note is that he will have a "primary logical objective" he states outloud but its usually pretense to hide behind where his secondary and tertiary objectives are his central motivating goal, motivations which are much more cordial and emotional than he cares to let others know

@pbonfanti

3 ай бұрын

@@tenjenk more preciselly, to "let himself know".

@seignee

Ай бұрын

@@tenjenk reminds me of my best friend who is uncomfortable with direct affection lol. sweet guy, took a while to show his more emotional reasons though. and I distrusted him at first because of it

Isaac is much like Data in the aspect that he has no emotions but can understand and perceive them.

@DogsRNice

9 күн бұрын

I think the point of both characters is they *have* emotions of a sort, they just can't perceive them as they don't have any emotional awareness for themselves

Personally I don't think Isaac really knows why he did the procedure. Yes, the crew liking home more was most definitely part of it, but I think there was more to it. He doesn't offer to do the procedure until it is said Clair would have to leave the ship if she did it. I believe Isaac did it so he could remain close to Clair. I don't think he realizes that was his true motivation though. This is my humble opinion anyway.

@hyrinshratu

Жыл бұрын

My thinking is, Isaac doesn't have emotions so much as he has preferences. He prefers the company of Claire, and prefers that she be happy. He knew she would be unhappy resigning her commission, so he took action to ensure she was happy. He prefers the efficient function of the ship, and the crew hating him impacted that efficiency, therefore he took action to better his standing with the crew.

@TheMcKenzieHaus

Жыл бұрын

Anytime he acts out of “character” it’s connected to the Finn family. I just don’t he’s self aware enough to realize that

Parody is at its best when it takes itself seriously.

Love this relationship ❤

@arial.rose.borman610

Жыл бұрын

Yasss

0:40 it almost mirrors Charly telling Isaac she didn't reactivate him for his benefit. Birds of a feather, but neither will admit it.

The best love story

@blackdemonknight

Жыл бұрын

Indeed and if we don't get a fourth season it ended in a perfect spot with their wedding

@BlazingOwnager

Жыл бұрын

@@blackdemonknight I love the fact they ended it like that because if it there's no season 4, it feels like an entirely complete show with room for a sequel. Too many shows that end early like that do so unresolved and it taints the whole viewing experience.

Our emotions come from a basis of logic. Isaac had many reasons to do the procedure. Solve a problem, increase crew efficiency, and to also not lose Claire whome is an important part of his life.

I am not a man... I don't eat dinner...

@DrFranklynAnderson

Жыл бұрын

Right? The fact that he didn’t say those routine responses shows how much he’s grown!

People meeting Isaac in season 4: “You’re married? But you’re a robot! How did you manage to snag a wife?!” “I performed unlicensed gender reassignment surgery on a minor.”

@LGranthamsHeir

Жыл бұрын

Data: "Another reason why Isaac has clearly exceed my abilities! Plus he does not have an emotion chip like me!!" 😉

@ltwinpwnhunterr7844

Жыл бұрын

​@LGranthamsHeir don't forget Data did the dirty with Tasha, though I haven't watched Orville fully so I don't know if Isaacs has too

@praise_kek340

11 ай бұрын

Maybe detransition is the better word

@user-sq2fw5vr1i

7 ай бұрын

With Vibration Mode? ☺️😅

@MGTOWforthewin

5 ай бұрын

Ah, but can Isaac function as an emergency floatation device if needed, lol 😆 😂 🤣 😅 😜 😄

Am I the only one watching this who desperately wants to see the actor getting into the Isaac suit?? I'd like to see what's involved in putting that outfit on, and how customized it is.

@lancer525

Жыл бұрын

That would ruin the illusion in so many ways, but it _would_ be fascinating to watch.

@bobblum5973

Жыл бұрын

The actor performing as the physical character is not always also doing the voice. In _Spaceballs_ we had the character of Dot Matrix, voiced by Joan Rivers and performed by Lorene Yarnell, a mime. Likewise in _Lost in Space_ Dick Tufeld and Bob May performed the Robot. But then in _Star Wars_ Anthony Daniels was C3PO. I agree, I'd both like to see it but wouldn't want to ruin the magic!

@LordNinja109

Жыл бұрын

@@bobblum5973 In this case, both the actor and the voice are the same person. If I remember correctly, there is a little voice modulation happening though.

@bobblum5973

Жыл бұрын

@Lucas Elder I thought that was the case. There's a clip here on KZread involving time travel where Isaac is in human form and gets to do the "android vs. human" scene. I haven't seen the whole episode, but just this one part gives me fond memories of Data on TNG doing the same sort of things, with just a hint of _The Six Million Dollar Man_ scenes where Steve Austin would take a smug person down a notch. It's an in-joke, we as the audience know what will happen, it's all in how the characters perform the scene that make it enjoyable to watch.

@Rkenton48

Жыл бұрын

They probably have a behind the scenes docu somewhere. Don't lose hope.

Awww.

I haven't watched all the seasons yet, but I'm having concerns that the doctor might have a strong aversion to other humaniods. First she got it on with a blob, now a robot. Unless she's just really freaky that way.

@Weird3nSky

Жыл бұрын

>really freaky that way you browse anything beyond the front page on adult sites? it gets weird fast.

@BlazingOwnager

Жыл бұрын

>I haven't watched all the seasons yet, You're in for good times. Season 3 is far and away the best season of the show by a league, where it really reached it's true potential.

@fraybirch1930

Жыл бұрын

VERY MINOR SPOILER BUT YOU ARE FREE NOT TO READ She was married to a human once so she's dated humans. But she's open enough to explore intimacy with other species. Also the blob thing IIRC was because of the effect of alien hormones.

@tescheurich

Жыл бұрын

One gets the sense she's had her fill of humanoid clowns and dweebs

@seanmce8132

Жыл бұрын

The only reason she got it on with a blob was because of horny alien pheromones.

I like to think issac experiences emotion, but in a more direct way. Emotions for humans follow their own logical processes in the brain, but we dont have direct knowledge of those processes. We experience them through feelings and physical sensations. They essentially run in the background. Isaac on the other hand would process emotions no differently than he would other information, and whereas human emotions work off of illogical systems that dont always fit reality, isaac would process his emotions in relation to reality 24/7. This would be why some human ideas of emotion confuse him. He doesnt experience them through the same medium and the illogical systems they work off of make no sense.

@JDog2656

3 ай бұрын

Personally, I find it annoying that they seem to constantly butt heads with him because of how he acts despite knowing that he is a mechanical being. IT just lacks common sense because they get offended by some of the things he says or does even though they should know he is not the same as a regular person. He does not understand emotion or independent thought in the same way and he is constantly trying to learn. They seem to forget that he is a machine and therefore going by more base programming than say an AI intelligence. The fact alone that he was able to defy the Kaylon primary at all is a feat in and of itself and his initial siding should not be taken so personally because his capacity to think independently of the collective had only just begun to evolve.

"I am not a man."

It’s like Kira and Odo

I’ll be honest I was hoping his answer was he did it so Claire wouldn’t get in trouble and have to leave.

I think he kinda did it for many reasons, including Topa. He usually says he doesn't feel bs he's a robot but then he shows otherwise, he just doesn't know nor undertsand his own motives bc they're not logical to his programming and algorithm. Like when he says he can't feel bad for being treated poorly, but then he deactivates himself.

Is that like… computer rizz(?)

@kainholden2001

22 күн бұрын

I think id call it android rizz or robotic rizz(most likely this one) but im not entirely sure which issac really identifies as(if there is a difference between androids and robots)

you do know he doesn't eat, right?

It can’t eat. This is ridiculous.

@christianhofer5020

Жыл бұрын

Dinner is not only an opportunity to eat. It is more about socializing

@PlainsPup

Жыл бұрын

@@christianhofer5020 That’s true. I just find it really hard to get emotionally invested in this show, despite some of its cool features. This plot line of a woman falling in love with an emotionless, barely humanoid robot really bugs me.

@Strannik01

Жыл бұрын

@@PlainsPup *shrugs* And it's your right. People like and dislike all kinds of things for completely subjective reasons, and there is this implicit assumption that this is a bad thing, when it's really not. So long as you don't actively set out to ruin others' enjoyment, dislike away.

@Rkenton48

Жыл бұрын

@@christianhofer5020 TY. was just about to state that fact.

@mingram7748

Жыл бұрын

Um...... I think it was more about socializing.

She hit the wall along time ago…..

Wow a person who didnt get mad that the other individual didn't "help" someone else per say, but more himself. I fail to see why in cinema in these situations people usually blow up on isaac saying its unethical and that the other persons life was changed and yet its still about you blablabla. What does it matter? So long as there is no ill intent on the other - everyone wins

I thought I was out of my damn mind cause I was in love with the robotic, stoic and no emotion having, issac in previous episodes but then they gave him a girl that was attracted to him too .... didn't see this coming.