We don’t want to live in poverty and be wage slaves to the elites.

@biashacker

Ай бұрын

Exactly. That is all that is happening. The elites have no plans on making this world habitable for humanity. I will not let my kids be slaves for these psychopaths.

@awesome8315

Ай бұрын

👍👍👍👍👍

@lovehemp4953

Ай бұрын

Facts!

@minavanderleest9493

23 күн бұрын

We are already wage slaves. Government doesn't want women to stay home or have men earn a livable wage for their families. Government wants two wage earners to tax.

@Pikrodafni

21 күн бұрын

@@minavanderleest9493 I feel a Handmaid's Tale happening for real in a future not too far away.

Who cares about "the global economy"? What matters is the wellbeing of people, not some abstract bogeyman.

@jsward96

Ай бұрын

People aren’t impacted by the “global economy”?

@silentwilly2983

Ай бұрын

@@jsward96 Let's give the provocative answer, no. Reality is that the fruits of the global economy are mostly gobbled up by the rich, the 1% or so. People are far more impacted by economic and welfare policy than the actual economy. Besides that, unlimited economic growth in a limited world is not sustainable. You may debate what level of economic wealth we should strife for, but at some point we have to say enough is enough. The larger the population, the lower that level is for a sustainable economy. We already consume well over the reproductive level of earth. Damaging the environment to have more economic wealth does not increase wellbeing.

@runningfromabear8354

Ай бұрын

​@@jsward96 People's lived experience have been unhitched from the global economy. We see the rich get richer and we get poorer. Global economy has lost all meaning for most of the planet. The waves no longer raise all ships.

@CyesH-we6oo

27 күн бұрын

@@silentwilly2983 There is truth in your statement. Though, people should keep in mind that the current population decline is going to be extremely painful experience for all, but especially for the senior population. This will be the biggest pill we're going to have to swallow in the future.

@Pikrodafni

24 күн бұрын

@@jsward96 Yes - negatively.

The wolves are upset the Sheep won’t Reproduce

@Erintii

Ай бұрын

precisely, it is all about keeping poverty. It's all about control and spreading misery. Ppl want better lives and this goes with less or no kids.

@jsward96

Ай бұрын

@@ErintiiWhat makes you think we’ll have better lives when we’re too old to work, and there’s not enough young people to take care of us?

@PatriciaLucious-ll2vm

Ай бұрын

They can't no matter how hard they try.

@lovehemp4953

Ай бұрын

​@@ErintiiExactly! Look at how these greedy people treat us. They don't even give you time to raise your own children. They want you to just work!work!work! There is no incentive for us to bring more children in a world like this!

@Erintii

Ай бұрын

@@lovehemp4953 precisely. I am no parent and don't want to become one but parents need a time to bond with a newborn. Mothers should be praised and worshiped as they bring a new life. Being a parent is probably the most important job.

omg, no more wage slaves, elites panicking 🤣🤣

I'm not going to pop out kids "for the economy." They can get bent.

@watchmetrade6066

22 күн бұрын

lol. It’s your society. Your traditions and values won’t be passed on. It’s not about economy. It’s about your existence. Religious extremists will inherit your nations, since they have kids (they’re not having kids for economic reasons either).

@pholdway5801

20 күн бұрын

Learning and breeding are almost opposites these days

@worldadventuretravel

5 күн бұрын

YESSS!

@blueamenaa749

3 күн бұрын

💯

@andre1987eph

3 күн бұрын

That your God ordained purpose as a female.

Time, people need time to raise children. The 9 to 5 is the problem.

@olefosshaug5565

Ай бұрын

2 income families is the problem

@CryptoKiwi

Ай бұрын

2 income and no house affordability more like.​@@olefosshaug5565

@user-zl9sh9mz6h

Ай бұрын

​@@olefosshaug5565Capitalism is the problem. Capitalism is anti-human.

@Iquey

Ай бұрын

​@@olefosshaug5565men wanting all the control of everything is the problem.

@olefosshaug5565

Ай бұрын

@@Iquey In a one income family the men takes control of the income while the women takes control of the kids and household

Live standards rise when population falls gradually, so I am not worried.

@joebidet2050

2 ай бұрын

Yep Good news Environmentalists should be rejoicing

@natashadickson4819

Ай бұрын

​@joebidet2050 Environmentalists are rejoicing but economists, not so much. 🙂

@joebidet2050

Ай бұрын

@@natashadickson4819 I prefer peaceful healthy lifestyle over material indulgences

@michaelsmith473

Ай бұрын

It won't be gradual.

@natashadickson4819

Ай бұрын

@@joebidet2050 Me too.

Mothers are penniless. If a woman can be divorced against her will on no grounds at all, putting her into the poverty and increased labour of single parenthood, motherhood is untenable.

@Aeternum_Gaming

Ай бұрын

my ex wife has all my money, what are you talking about? she has my house, my car, women after divorce always make it out better than men. quit bullshitting

@chriswatson1698

Ай бұрын

@@Aeternum_Gaming You have earning power because you didn't care for your own babies.

@pholdway5801

20 күн бұрын

alimony is the reason mgtow is a cult activity these days

@ladybug3380

17 күн бұрын

@@Aeternum_Gaming divorced women are more likely to be poor or low income. The only reason you’re upset is because you no longer have access to her body so to you it’s not worth it to provide her and your children a good life.

@brandonboi9465

11 күн бұрын

​@ladybug3380 Pretty sure he'd rather have his house and cars over 😺. Which isn't exactly hard to get anymore.

One word, Corporatism

@nothereyetlost

Ай бұрын

Noooo MEN

@user-zl9sh9mz6h

Ай бұрын

We live in a capitalist plutocracy. Our Masters get nervous when we stop pumping out more wage slaves for them to exploit.

@Silver77cyn

Ай бұрын

No, Capitalisim.

@williammitchell6375

16 күн бұрын

The reckoning of capitalism is upon us. Atlast the end is near.

@andre1987eph

3 күн бұрын

Feminism specifically.

Unemployment, low wages and job uncertainty is biggest reason, people are afraid of having children......

The Black Plaque took out a huge amount of people in a short time...yet here we are

@Pikrodafni

Ай бұрын

Dental plaque?

@lisaadams42

10 күн бұрын

@@Pikrodafni😂

@pholdway5801

2 күн бұрын

metaphors are so euphemistic these days

Life is a major scam. The biggest one there is.

@venkat4167

Ай бұрын

Couldn’t agree more

The population boom was an anomaly. The economy will adjust either way and it's about quality over quantity.

@Azamat421

15 күн бұрын

You have no quality either

@ss-ds2dn

11 күн бұрын

This. People talk too much about the population crash as if there was no boom or as if the nature of the boom is irrelevant

If the meteor won't come, we might as well help our disappearance along.

@user-zl9sh9mz6h

Ай бұрын

Truth! 👍

Again, it's the wolves telling the sheep to having more lambs.

I want everyone to look at the impact of the black plague on the workforce, it ended up well for the workers. We have a golden opportunity

@igmegalingan

21 күн бұрын

Workers who died in agony because they don't live in clean expansive castles which helped defense against the plague?

The only people I know having kids are the more well off members of my friend group. Those who own their houses and have financial stability. The rest of us are opting out of bringing children into poverty.

In Africa theres not enough jobs to go around... Not enough schools. Alot of familys are single parent families so women have to have jobs or starve with their kids. The unemployment in South Africa is 60% its a biiiig problem.

@pholdway5801

2 күн бұрын

No such thing as a single parent family. It always takes TWO What it actually should be called is absent father family.

Since WWII, the world's population has tripled. Our earth has never had so many humans living so well. 'Living well' gobbles up the earth's resources at an unprecedented rate and our earth is not coping with our consumption and waste. Earth can provide a high living standard for a small population, or poverty for a large population.

People have lives to live, and not all want to deal with taking on an 18 year inconvenient, often annoying gaol sentence. I got fixed at 19 because I didn't need that pointless garbage in my life. I also like my higher standard of living.

I'm in my forties, and a low birth rate means less people who could potentially replace me at work. Companies will treat me well and I won't be facing unemployment. On the other hand, I live in a country with public health care, therefore one day I'll need young workers to pay my pension. My point is, most of the immigrants who are coming here are uneducated and don't have the skills necessary to do my job. And my country is not rich enough to attract skilled people from a abroad. I'm being cynical on purpose, just to think about this matter.

@ddsjgvk

6 күн бұрын

I would replace you. If they would promote me and not just advertise for your position. Because forget training people on the job anymore

@andre1987eph

3 күн бұрын

no, it means less demands for your goods and services, plus as an older worker, you will be the first given the boot.

World's population is predicted to peak at approx 9.5 billion in 2050 .. and will then drop precipitously by over 50% by 2100 with 50% of the population over the age of 60.

@everythingisfine9988

2 ай бұрын

With all the wars and cut off food supplies, I'm pretty sure the global population will peak much sooner

@jahmalbaptiste9915

Ай бұрын

This is nightmarish...

@Pikrodafni

Ай бұрын

Population drop is already happening.

@calgary2800

21 күн бұрын

Big drop in Japan ​@@Pikrodafni

@Pikrodafni

21 күн бұрын

@@calgary2800 Some even say Japan will disappear.

If the developed countries want more babies they will have structure their economies around the people who have them, mainly women between the ages of 18 to 36.

@sandycheeks1580

25 күн бұрын

Hey 👋🏽 We birth babies 36 and older too! Naturally with no IVF or surrogacy. My last pregnancy 🤰🏽was at 42. Twins! But I aborted because I already have 3 kids. I’d rather adopt than birth more people into this world.

@user-ug1eo4xb7z

24 күн бұрын

@@sandycheeks1580 Better late than never.

@BaronOfFife

16 күн бұрын

@@sandycheeks1580you disgust me

@BaronOfFife

16 күн бұрын

@@sandycheeks1580who would admit to that gross

@andre1987eph

3 күн бұрын

try 18 to 30

Omg, consumerism will suffer 😢

@user-ft5kh5um1r

29 күн бұрын

Capitalism will!

What makes you think people that can't afford themselves can afford take in care of a child💀🤣

Indian fertility rate decreased

@jacqueslee2592

2 ай бұрын

It may be decreasing, but it is still enough to populate entire countries all over the world. India has enough population to send 100 million people to populate the entire countries of many European nations and India itself will not be affected if it loses this fraction of its population. The average European population is less than 100 million in most countries. There are countries that do not reach 50 million. Some Western countries are also dying off because there are too many elderly and not enough children and young adults having children. India is trying to send off its population globally so that it increases its soft power and has more influence and leverage in other countries just like the Chinese have done for a long time, sending their population to populate and infiltrate other country's society, institutions, businesses, military, and government in their favor.

@chriswatson1698

Ай бұрын

@@jacqueslee2592 And Indians are leaving India in droves, to invade other countries.

childfree and got my hysterectomy in 2023 you won't use my babies as cheap labor😙

@anhangamirim

Ай бұрын

I think just like you. They want us to be slaves!

@Pikrodafni

Ай бұрын

I took the pill for 30 years. Same effect. They wanted me to raise children on a miserable salary. I told them to bugger off. I can't be everywhere and do everything. Not even trying!

@sugarbear333

27 күн бұрын

I pray 🙏🏻 this will be me soon, seeking one for endo and I just hope I find a Dr with a brain

@antinatalistwitch111

24 күн бұрын

Any bad side effects? I am aiming for this 2025

@DeneseJamerson

6 күн бұрын

​@@sugarbear333. Keep shopping around, you'll find one who will sterilize you! I did at about 23yrs old!

Our leaders are clueless. Demography is part of any economy. LOL. ❤❤

@user-zl9sh9mz6h

Ай бұрын

Our "leaders" are psychopaths.

IDK I still feel like the environmentalists are right. Sure, birth rates are trending down, but eight billion is still way too many humans.

Why no discussion of the environmental factors affecting declining fertility rates by the panel? This is a shocking oversight. The onslaught of exposure to chemicals affecting hormones, which determine sperm quality and count in men and fertility in women, will be a major driver in this process as we go forward in this century.

@cpprclrd8790

15 күн бұрын

This ! They’ve been tampering with the food and damaging agriculture. Our ancestors knew what to do as far as taking care of the land and the cattle. All of this extra stuff is damaging us in the long run

We are running out of oil, oil reserves will most likely be depleted within the next 50 to 100 years. And I mean not just gasoline, diesel for the vehicles, and aviation fuel, but also plastics, fertilizers, pesticides, solvents, lubricants, synthetic fibers, pharmaceuticals, asphalt, bitumen... We are also depleting our fertile land, polluting everything - everywhere, and losing a living planet due to climate breakdown, and you are worried about this? Shouldn't we solve other problems first? Before we leave a dying planet to our kids? Shrinking population is a temporary problem and will solve itself after a few decades, yes it might be bad for the old people of tomorrow (including myself), but will be a blessing in the future.

People will look back and see this as a positive. Im from India and I want to see the birth rate drop even further.

@venkat4167

Ай бұрын

No this is not a good thing for the economy. India is the only country that is extremely populated.

@Emptytopfloor

Ай бұрын

@@venkat4167 it’s not good for the rich people. More people competing for jobs means employers will pay lesser wages thus lowering the living standards. It vastly benefits the employer than in does the workers. We need less workers to raise the standard of living.

@hi-et1oq

Ай бұрын

​@@venkat4167yeah you're right it's the most populated you should go visit India so you can see how people live

@venkat4167

Ай бұрын

@@Emptytopfloor no we need more qualified people and reducing population is not going to help the economy. If the economy is screwed up, everyone is screwed.

@venkat4167

Ай бұрын

@@hi-et1oq I am from India dude

A lot of people are focussing on the overall population who think that it is only the total number being too high which is the problem. Yes, a large total population does put a strain on the environment through greater consumption. However, the biggest problem in the near future is that the age ratios in many of these countries will get misaligned. Many countries around the world will reach a situation where the number of retirees is not supported by a large enough number of workers. In most developed countries the largest portion of government expenditure goes towards helping to pay for retirement pensions and to pay for medical systems which are disproportionately used by the elderly. As the numbers of elderly increases relative to the number of workers/tax payers the economic strain on the workers increases. Governments will need to both raise taxes on those working while also raising the retirement age and cutting expenditure on the elderly in some way. It is also possible that the coming AI and robotic revolution will reduce some of the strain by making a lot of labour infinitely cheaper. The future will be interesting.

@user-zl9sh9mz6h

Ай бұрын

If I believed in God, I'd beg him to destroy us all with a 50-kilometer asteroid.

Yes especially the western countries, abortion, LGBTQ, contraceptives, sexualization of women

@sharinaross1865

18 күн бұрын

Hookup culture, divorce rates.

bad for economy but good for nature

"The meek shall inherit the Earth"

@91722854

Ай бұрын

not the fertile? AGI if it ever becomes a reality, will be so meek we humans will barely notice

@madhouse8301

12 күн бұрын

”Blessed are the meek! Oh, that's nice, isn't it? I'm glad they're getting something, 'cause they have a hell of a time.”

Housing cost is far too high in the Nordic countries

@peopleofearth6250

Ай бұрын

They're too high everywhere 😂

@rsync9490

Ай бұрын

@@peopleofearth6250 Tell governments to screw off and build your own houses.

@peopleofearth6250

Ай бұрын

@@rsync9490 On who's land?

@rsync9490

Ай бұрын

@@peopleofearth6250 buy some residential lots, plunk a trail3r if you have to.

@user-zl9sh9mz6h

Ай бұрын

​@rsync9490 Um, no. It's illegal to live in a trailer (or a tiny home) in most urban and suburban areas. They call living frugally "blight". That's just another way of saying, "Poor people can go to hell".

People were better off when population was 2 billion.

@elenarewd9299

16 күн бұрын

The world population was 2 billion in the 1920s……that was during the Great Depression. America aside, most of the world at that time lived in abject poverty.

@spytechchronicles

16 күн бұрын

​@@elenarewd9299human greed led to great depression

@thomasgrabkowski8283

5 күн бұрын

Population was around 2 billion in 1900. No one can say people were better off in 1900 than now by any metric

The human population is only in decline here in the western world and in some parts of Asia such as China, Korea, and Japan as for the African continent that’s a different story because from what I’m seeing the human population in Africa is rising and growing.

@jacqueslee2592

2 ай бұрын

I hope they do not take over other countries. It would be insane to see the cultural and ethnic identity of Europe and Japan suddenly be Indian and African. Well, maybe this is karma for Europe's colonial atrocities and enslavement.

@indrinita

2 ай бұрын

You’re crazy, India’s population growth rate is decreasing as well. In fact, their birth rate is now below replacement.

@jacqueslee2592

2 ай бұрын

@@indrinita It may be decreasing, but it is still enough to populate entire countries all over the world. India has enough population to send 100 million people to populate the entire countries of many European nations and India itself will not be affected if it loses this fraction of its population. The average European population is less than 100 million in most countries. There are countries that do not reach 50 million. Some Western countries are also dying off because there are too many elderly and not enough children and young adults having children. India is trying to send off its population globally so that it increases its soft power and has more influence and leverage in other countries just like the Chinese have done for a long time, sending their population to populate and infiltrate other country's society, institutions, businesses, military, and government in their favor.

@kooalabeats5388

2 ай бұрын

@@jacqueslee2592 no country has enough power to send their people around if other governments don't allow it. look how poland doesn't allow it. truth is, historically this is how civilizations go thru cycles everywhere in world. countries need immigrants or in the longer run they'll lose out to other capitalistic countries. And their is no specific culture. i think you are thinking too much, import right kinda people who are civil. indians and africans are great. indians have contributed immensely to technology and medicine, there may be troubles but only in canada. we all know who's to blame for it. and same for africans. just be mindful in getting them because they are really hardworking. Not like how france did it.

@hkonhelgesen

2 ай бұрын

The human population is in decline all over the world. Only African produce population growth. Because Africa is high on victory after decolonization. But they are not high on victory forever. The african fertility will crash.

Average annual cost for a single kid in wa state is 215,000 dollers and I believe 300,000 dollars national Average here in the states but who knows if those are real statistics can't trust anything anymore everything is so corrupted by money

NO ONE HAS MONEY!!!!!

@pholdway5801

3 күн бұрын

Money can be paid for the stuff that someone makes. Make an item of value.

Don’t worry. While elsewhere the population is steadily declining, the population in black Africa is growing fast.

@andre1987eph

3 күн бұрын

and whites and asians thought they had this game won🤣

How is this bad for poor people? Less suffering

Wont somebody think of the gLoBAl ecOnOmY

@sharinaross1865

18 күн бұрын

Why don't you

Not in philippines or Africa Kids everywhere

@dominicyelin

Ай бұрын

Islam

@Joshua-eo5hr

Ай бұрын

Good ​@@dominicyelin

@dominicyelin

Ай бұрын

@@Joshua-eo5hr nope.

@dominicyelin

Ай бұрын

Actually Filipinos are mostly Catholic, I think. And I'm perfectly cool with the African Christians too.

@maynnemillares

Ай бұрын

Birthrate of ph declined to 1.9, below replacement already. This is the PSA data.

Well, the lady brings up AI into the picture. As an America having fled the country almost 6 years ago, this is what I'm afraid of: AI and its Impact on Society Oct 31, 2023, updated on April 11, 2024 We must ask ourselves, "What will happen when AI has taken 85% of jobs present in 2020? What will we do? How will we eat and survive without incomes from jobs or other means?" What is disturbing is that while AI is taking these jobs, the gov't and the corporations have not done ANYTHING to prepare us for an AI'ed civilization. They have not said anything about major retraining of an entire economy to something else, and they have not followed up on a discussion of universal basic income. This is supposedly supported by a lack of information in the latest government budgets submitted and approved as reported by some KZread videos. It appears that the US gov't and the corporations intend to kill off the majority of Americans passively, through starvation from lack of income to buy food. (check and see if farming production is declining or will start to decline ahead of the "starvation phase") (also check to see if the "makeup" of robot equipment allocation would change to reflect a trend away from retail and services for the masses, possibly indicating an extinction of the American public - this means taking a robot from Chipotle and repurposing it for some other job not related to the public, or scrapping affected robots to be remade for some other purpose that has nothing to do with the public) It appears that the decline of farming has already started with the state of Maine buying farm land under the pretext that there are "forever chemicals" present at around 20 parts per TRILLION (safe level is said to be only 4 parts per TRILLION), which does not make sense, BUT this would rope in a LOT of land across the US. Other states may follow suit in addition to the ten states that have similar laws in place. This way, there are only enough people alive to get some things done, and the rest is done by AI, and the survivors who planned this can claim the whole country for themselves. Imagine having an estate mansion half the size of a mall on several dozen thousand acres of land, and robots would be used to maintain and clean the estates and do the farming FOR THE ESTATE OWNERS. The White Man's wet dream of civilization. What will the Native Americans south of the US border do when they see this coming, especially when they can buy firearms legally now? Hopi prophecy...

long term this isn't really a bad thing, the problem is the period where this transition finally ends, people that lives through it will definitely suffer economically and even socially tbh, especially if the country they live in choose to not bring in a lot of immigrants to "close the gap"

@user-zl9sh9mz6h

Ай бұрын

Considering the suffering that humans have caused to the millions of other species on this planet, I think we humans deserve to suffer.

Yes in 123 years from now

@andre1987eph

3 күн бұрын

were not going to make it that far

Education, health,highcost of living, unemployment is also one of reasons to decrease population in India.

@hkonhelgesen

2 ай бұрын

War, disease and famine always caused population decline in the past. Unemployment smash down fertility. In just the same way, that famine did in the past.

Once global shipping shuts down, all the high-growth countries will experience a large population correction.

We have technology to share a lot of knowledge now. Even if you live in a poor country, maybe 1 out of every 15 people has a smartphone and can share a video with their neighbors and siblings and friends, about a woman in the West who is happy and child free. This inspires those girls to go to school and stay away from mean boys and creepy old men.

@Aeternum_Gaming

Ай бұрын

people like you are why birth rates are declining. men just want to feel loved. we want to feel appreciated. you know what my instincts are? to love, to protect, to provide. i want to love my wife, and kids. feminists have told me i am evil. we have desires too and people like you continuously demean, and insult us. enjoy being a 50 year old with cats

Population Collapse . . . Good : For families. Bad : For corporations.

People are missing a point. The productive countries are the ones shrinking. This will disproportionately impact the quality of life for the world. History is full of periods where human lost the gains and fell into decline. Just look at Egypt and Rome. We have lost all kinds of knowledge they had at that time and thousands of years later we still don't know.

To all the men who talk about the importance of having more than 2 children, try asking their wives how hard it is to be pregnant for 9 months, and how hard it is to take care of children from the time they are born until they get married.

@ss-ds2dn

11 күн бұрын

They generally don't care

The Chinese have the best name for what the Oligarchs want more people for...harvesting.

There’s too many of the wrong bloody people

@tunisian_stats

16 күн бұрын

Yes dumb people reproduce more

Reproduction makes sense only when you are attractive or rich, then your kids will be too. Otherwise it is cruelty.

@teaadvice4996

6 күн бұрын

And evil

They want senior citizens and the very old to stay in the labor market, except in the real world age discrimination begins at 50 for some people.

A shrinking population will result in much lower housing costs and more job opportunities

@Pikrodafni

24 күн бұрын

As it happened at the end of the Plague.

IF you reduced taxation and stopped social programs that require that taxation it would help a lot. Stop taxing consumption.

Good debate

For those “less developed” countries I think the answer is is that those countries don’t live in a vacuum. The women in those countries an see the child free adventurous lives of those other women.

How do we leverage this to ensure it's an extinction event? 😊

You're an evil person if you choose to bring kids to our chaotic world full of hardships.

@sharinaross1865

18 күн бұрын

That whole some truth. Especially if you follow a certain religion.

“Career” concept is propaganda to give consumers a goal other than family formation. What percentage of these young people cramming themselves into cities to compete will actually win out and get what they want?

That's for good. Antinatalism is the future.

@thomasgrabkowski8283

5 күн бұрын

Pro-natalists are the ones who’s bloodlines will survive into the future

The well off and educated stop having children, while those countries that are poor and harbour religious and extremist views continue having more children. We can all see where this is going.

For the good life that we see ideal in the developed world, earth can only support ~50 million people living that lifestyle without ushering in swift consequences that will usher in a sharp drop in population and lots of adversity. We have exceeded that by magnitudes. The next century will be challenging if not outright traumatic. Last I checked, God doesn’t provide violation of the laws of physics. But his earth is infinitely powerful in taking care of itself for the sake of life’s continuation.

Something new one ever ever thought of and the declining population is happening from first world nations like the United States all the way down to third world nations in sub-Sahar africa

If people didn’t want to have children that’d be one thing. The part that grinds my gears is all of the conspicuous consumption on top of it. Consumption dragon sickness

Two child policy following india.this is better to economics.

@porkyrabbit

2 ай бұрын

India should include adding toilets to their policy. That country is a hole

The first thing to do is, when a country receives a lot of immigrants fleeing war, is to give them camps to live in -- one for the men and one for the women.

You don't breed 'em, then you don't have to feed 'em, as I always say.

😮😮😮

We live in the human version of the Universe 25: The Mouse "Utopia" - it a nightmare.

Needs to shrink faster.

Our collective I Q is going into free fall

Malthus was wrong.

@chriswatson1698

Ай бұрын

No, Malthus was right. What has happened is that his warnings were heeded. His dire predictions didn't come to pass, because he was listened to, and people adjusted their fertility accordingly. A self-defeating prophecy.

The 400 yrs r up.

@Bwilli1990

4 күн бұрын

😮😮😮😮😮 wow

@PatriciaLucious-ll2vm

4 күн бұрын

@@Bwilli1990 u know abt them ?

Good.

People are having fewer children primarily due to urbanization. Once you live in a town/city, it doesn’t feel like you “need“ children. Your life will be more or less the same, whether you have children or not. It’s basically a free-rider problem as it’s in everybody’s interest that somebody has kids, but it’s very expensive to be the one having them. I would be in favor of much greater government subsidy to families with children, paid for by slightly higher taxes on people without children. Theoretically, that should have an “evening out” effect where having kids will not be as expensive as not having them.

@whitneyanders5945

2 ай бұрын

Ridiculous! Childfree people already pay for your kids via taxes. They do not get family tax benefits as you do with children. Why should they pay more? It is up to employers to offer better conditions and benefits to employees who have kids. Business should give parents lots more considering parents are raising the next generation of mindless consumers to consume their products.

@derek4412

Ай бұрын

@@whitneyanders5945 My children will pay far more into your social secuirty (assuming you live in the US) than they would ever get through your working-life tax dollars. In addition to that, we don't use public schools. And since we live in a state without school choice, I am responsible for the full cost of their education. This actually saves childfree people tax dollars because you'd have to pay more if we used more government resources. About 15% of children don't attend public schools.

@blafonovision4342

Ай бұрын

@@derek4412not true on Social Security. The Baby Boomers double paid on SS back in the 80’s and 90’s, both to pay for all those who retired before them, and to pay for their own retirement. Since that time SS has been retirement savings plan for every generation from the Baby Boomers going forward.

@derek4412

Ай бұрын

This would be news to me. Please explain what you mean about Boomers paying double. Are you implying they paid more than the 6% we all currently pay?

@blafonovision4342

Ай бұрын

@@derek4412 go look at Reagan’s 1982 SS “reform”

Not declining, but changing. The West and East Asia are in decline. People from Islamic countries and Africa, are poised to become the new Europeans This will help replacing ageing populations in Europe and the rest of the developed world. Japan urgently needs mass immigration to support the elderly

I see a world with only one billion people as a paradise. The only problem is the economics and elderly care issues along the way.

@chriswatson1698

Ай бұрын

I know a lot of elderly people. Few are in nursing homes. Children are unproductive. A young population has fewer of its citizens in the workforce that does an ageing population. It is a case of supporting the elderly instead of children and their mothers.

I guess the one child only law has gone out the window.

All Unemployed people Boycott Marriage, Never Marry…!

isn't capitalism eating itself, housing prices, disproportionate increase in salaries, decrease in the value of money, how sad it is

Give migrants, refugees, immigrants, and those who just want to be in Anerica citizenship! THEY will happily have children and men who say they can't find women willing to marry them, will get mates! WIN! WIN!

Professional breeders are the solution. Particularly gifted adults could be offered a matching lifestyles and income equal to what they currently enjoy. Creative algorithmic Solutions to attract everyone equally without the specter of eugenics programs of the past.

@Pikrodafni

Ай бұрын

Brave New World. No, thank you!

Indians definitely not declining!!😡😡

This may offend some…but obviously education for women is the single greatest factor in population collapse. Educate women and give it enough time and the nation will fade to black.

@andre1987eph

3 күн бұрын

Its not education per se. Its the -human traficking- I mean educating women during the peak fertile years to colleges and universities. Probably better as a society to not allow women to go to college or enter work force until age 33 or so. This radical move is the only thing that can turn this population collapse ship around.

This poor planet’s population needs to shrink. Starting with the cultures remaining whos people overpopulate and can’t take care of themselves. Unfortunately, the more aid they get, the more kids they have.

@Iquey

Ай бұрын

The imperial core countries consume 20%-50% of the world's resources. Poor people have more children because they are poor. Aid should always come with birth control access and education to compete with the current day world, but alas the perverted religious missionaries always want to create more dependent believers.

This is a good thing. This is exactly what the WEF wants.

@skylinefever

Ай бұрын

Just because I go childfree does not mean I will be happy to own nothing.

Polygamy❤

@tunisian_stats

16 күн бұрын

WTF

Not global ,just the developed part .

@hkonhelgesen

2 ай бұрын

Even worse in the undeveloped world.

@whitneyanders5945

2 ай бұрын

Nope! Birth rates declining everywhere, except a few Muslim countries that no sane person would want to live in.

A very one sided discussion focused on economy/power. Reality is that eternal population growth is not sustainable, we already use resources well beyond the reproductive capacity of earth. This has to go down, this can only be achieved by increased efficiency and/or declining population. Economic growth, though maybe needed to give decent living standards to the poor, only adds to the environmental problems. Redistribution of wealth may very well be a much better solution for that. With respect to economic growth, we should also have the discussion about how much is enough. Eternal growth in a limited world is not possible. With fewer people we can have higher living standards, so look at gdp/capita instead of gdp. AI creates the possibility that a lot of tasks can be fully automated, and consequently explode gpd/worker. Declining population isn't a big deal for the economy in such a world. I also miss futures prospects in the considerations to take kids, you just talk economics. From what I hear, not necessarily representative, most young people forego kids because they are fed all kinds of doom scenarios and feel they don't want to put kids in the world to live through the apocalypse.

testing.....testing.....

Let's import scientists and engineers from the Congo. Ha!

Biblical Polygyny 🎉

Why am I feeling happy hearing this ?

It's a good thing it's reducing Too much pollution and too much wars for nothing