Why Germany is a staunch supporter of Israel
Israel is supported by many big international players - the US being the most powerful. Within Europe, it’s Germany. Following the October 7th attack by Hamas, Berlin’s backing has been ironclad. So why is Germany such a staunch supporter of Israel?
Our guests for this show:
Benjamin Ziemann
Professor of Modern German History at the University of Sheffield
Haim Bresheeth
Author and Filmmaker
John Kampfner
Associate Fellow at the Royal United Services Institute
#Israel #Germany #Palestine
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Germany is always on the wrong side of the History.
@NSGca
Ай бұрын
Just like genocide Joe has been for the last fifty years. Totally worthless. Biden is to old to be telling anyone that this has to end.
@mariaagosti-pm7tk
24 күн бұрын
No we are on the right side this time. Long live Israel. We dont support terror against our Jewish friends.
@aaronfinegold
21 күн бұрын
No, if you stand by our land which was given to us by G-d, you stand on the right side of history.
@Criminal1channel
5 күн бұрын
According to a book you wrote yourself? @@aaronfinegold
@DMC1982
5 күн бұрын
@@Criminal1channelNo man we have eyes.🤦🏻🤷🏻
Shame on Germany!!! So much blood on Scholz and Baerbock hands!
@zozodolewin2479
Ай бұрын
The all ways Ben fashiist
@thumanaga6749
Ай бұрын
Shame on Islam the religion of rapist,kidnappers,killers,satanic religion,shame.Go to your own natives.
@mariaagosti-pm7tk
20 күн бұрын
I am proud that you tell me to be ashamed :) I am German and stand with Israel, shameless ;)
@Criminal1channel
5 күн бұрын
Dein Nachname klingt aber nicht deutsch
@mariaagosti-pm7tk
5 күн бұрын
@@Criminal1channel Warum definierst du eine Person als Nichtdeutsch, nur, weil sie keinen deutschen Nachnamen hat? Es gibt Türken, die in Deutschland seit dritter Generation leben und genauso Deutsch sind mit türkischen Nachnamen, wie jeder andere Deutsche mit Müller Nachnamen.
Israel and Germany are brothers hand in hand, you jump I jump
@raziablanchard2711
Ай бұрын
As well as US
@Noiretranquility
Ай бұрын
It's called lap dogs
@ohmikesroh5904
Ай бұрын
Really?.. Germany.. You jump, I will jump too. Israel.. Yes, you jump first, I will help you. Germany.. OK, I jump first. Thank you bro. Israel.. Bye! Same scenario between Germany and US. Germany has never learned and repeats their history over and over. Germany just love playing stupid games to win stupid prizes. Both Israel and US are generous, let Germany keep the stupid prizes.
@DMC1982
5 күн бұрын
Partners in crime
Because germany is a weapons manufacturer masquerading as a country?
@DMC1982
5 күн бұрын
Fr
The real reason why Germany supports Itsracial is the same why the US supports it: Both have gigantic Z-lobbies in their country. It's not that hard to figure out (just use your search engine and look at official sites of these pressure groups), but apparently it's very hard to speak about in the media.
@user-vk1wy5xe9i
Ай бұрын
💯
Because Germany commuted the holocaust but want Palestinians to be punished for that crime by paying with their land and lives.
@bliss448
Ай бұрын
and bc of Zionism.
So referring to Palestinians as the amalek is not a genocidal statement. Carpet bombing civilian infrastructure is not ethnic cleansing? Saying that the Palestinians are human animals is not a genocidal statement? Intentionally starving the population is not genocidal. Israels far right parliamentarians and high officials have in the open stated their intent to eliminate not Hamas but the entire Palestinian population is that not a genocidal intent? What is the argument exactly here?
If at first you don’t succeed try try again?
Singaporeans stand in solidarity with the Palestinians 🤲
Afraid they might claim land in Germany when they leave Palestine.
For the simple reason that germany depends heavily on Israelis military equipment while at the same time, germany also earns billions € supplying miltary equipment to Israel. It's all about *POWER AND MONEY*, both ways
@alsahib3768
Ай бұрын
Paid with American dollars
@DMC1982
5 күн бұрын
@@alsahib3768 Tax payer money
Is it possible to treat Israel like anybody else when its creation of Israel itself is a special treatment by America and Europe? Europeans and US may speak about objectivity but their actions throughout history shows that they are showing special treatment to Israel .
@ThorstenSchulte
Ай бұрын
Yes they do treat Israel differently because it’s the only sovereign country whose right to exist is continuously being questioned.
@astroflyinsights
Ай бұрын
The only one the UN created for Europeans at the expense of the natives - to whom a promise of independence had been given *before* Balfour in exchange for fighting for Britain in WWI. Bavaria would have been, therefore, a much more just location. Or Heidelberg.
@alsahib3768
Ай бұрын
Ipso facto
@alsahib3768
Ай бұрын
@astroflyinsights or in USA
Birds of a feather flock together.
Hint .. Germany likes to do everything twice
@bliss448
Ай бұрын
There was also a genocide in Namibia. So it's not twice, it's thrice.
@ikbal2734
Ай бұрын
Thrice. Don’t forget the first one, Namibia Genocide
@Opinionated_Stranger
Ай бұрын
Ouch.
@abandonedfragmentofhope5415
Ай бұрын
Thrice, you forgot Namibia!
@DMC1982
5 күн бұрын
Don't forget the witch hunts so it's min. 4 times.
I enjoyed the debate! I too am less hung up on the semantics of genocide. No one deserved what happened to the Israeli people on 07 Oct. 2023, but Israel's response is insane. Their response was not and is not proportional. It is cruel/inhumane, colonial, racist and murderous on a mass scale. Netanyahu and his gangster government need to be met with what one panelist said an objective approach from their Western allies. Bravely condemn and denounce Israel's behaviour, cut off military and economic aid and vigorously aid the Palestinian people to restore them the best we can. I appreciate Ireland has called out Israel. Ultimately, Israel and Palestine have to live peacefully side by side. The West has the resources and now just has to find the guts to do just that!
@Samaa-os7hx
Ай бұрын
It's not about deserving or not deserving. It wasn't about dealing isahellis a punishment. Jeez there's no excuse for such ignorance.
One answer: culpability. Period
Knowing the history of Germany, it would be political suicide not to help Israel. They don't want to help, but they must. Simple as that.
Blackmail, making them Bibi's Proxies.
@bliss448
Ай бұрын
Zionism.
Both sides are adhering to a deal they made in 1950s. Israel was one of the first countries to establish diplomatic relations with West Germany declaring it " completely denazified" - although most of politicians and government officials just picked up where they left off in '45. Israel, ofcourse got large reparations they were practicaly living off all trough 50s and 60s until Uncle Sam stepped to the plate.
@ThorstenSchulte
Ай бұрын
It wasn’t until 12 May 1965 that Israel and West Germany established diplomatic relations. Hardly one of the first. Makes me wonder if you are an actual person or an AI bot that just pumps out nonsense.
@hrvojehajdic2729
Ай бұрын
@@ThorstenSchulte first diplomatic contacts started in early 1950s. By 52' Reparation Agreement was negotiated between Ben Gurion and Adenauer and regular German payments started. From late '50s to '67 Germany was 2nd biggest supplier of weapons to Israel after France. Formal diplomatic recognition was signed in 65' mostly because of internal Israely politics. But in practice Germans were buying off forgivness of sins and Israel eas eager to sell it...
Germany and Israel are to sides of the same coin. These people are related.
@patmackenney9786
Ай бұрын
Not sure where Israelis came from. If they came from the concentration camps it is beginning to look like they might have been the guards not the prisoners.
@DMC1982
5 күн бұрын
Askanaz means Germany Ashkenazim means German
Some minimise the deaths of over 30,000 Palestinians, but if it was in their own countries, they'd take a VERY different stance.
No comments yet? What happened to the previous comments? Censored and deleted? Why post comments on the platform?
He was quick to accuse Isreal of genocide WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE.
They are probably riddled with guilt for getting rid of the porblem, want others to pay for their guilt
Germany is simping for Israel
Because Germany is historically wrong every single freaking time!
Because their reparations lol 🤣
@bliss448
Ай бұрын
No, it's bc of Zionism just like in the US.
Germany stopped paying to UNWRA after January 29th, not after October 7th. I think the dates ought to be correct.
@DMC1982
5 күн бұрын
And is now funding it again.
@astridschwarz5473
5 күн бұрын
@@DMC1982 the damage was pretty much done, but yeah, it is funding it again. Strikes me as not really knowing what they are doing or what is actually happening - not a good sign, wouldn't you agree?
Maybe they have a number of casualties in mind?
We stand to Justice, human rights and equity for Palestinians Against the authorities and genocide of Israel
Excellent..👍
Everyone learns slowly, Germany is no exception. Like US, German people are wonderful, it is our governments and propaganda.
Free free Falasteen فلسطين حرة
Haavara Agreement redux. Mr Kampfner completely ignores Namibia, that Germany committed a genocide in Namibia. It seems his vision is limited to himself?
Dumb question. Hereditary guilt.
All payments to Palestine are routed through Israel and this is includes the German payments.
Shame !!!!!
Because Germany hasn't learnt the lesson that genocide is wrong
Feeling Guilty.....Adolph..
The Kabbalah thinks that it rules the world.
Very accurate and lucid points from Haim. Totally disagree with the perspectives of the other 2 German apologists
In the US, even if Jesus come back to earth and say something against Israel, they will make a law to stop him because they will call Jesus: Antisemitism and put him in prison. Lol.
Germany lives the Mersey of Israel to survive.
"Better Palestine than us"
guilty of war crimes supply of arms and a facists regime should be brought to court with europe britain usa and saudi turkey jordan .
Because they have experience in extermination of a whole group of people. They are the masters supporting the student
Takes one to know one!
German-Staatsräson ist lawlessness as defined by the German parliament: The Permission To Break Through the Constitution and morality of society!
Supporting the injustice Natayahu and his extremist cabinet doing is not helping anyone including Israel,s it will only create more problems.
Couldnt be israeli back handers could it?
Guilt
Bless you Germany.
@DMC1982
5 күн бұрын
Once a German wanted to redeem for his sins and became Muslim and learned Arabic. His neighbor asked him why are you doing this? He answered because I want to go to heaven and if I make it I can talk to the Angels in Arabic. His neighbor replied what if you don't make it, what if you go to hell. He so said so what I already speak German.
If Germany feels a strong moral commitment, its only right that they should give half of thier land to Isreal. Why do they expect Palestinians to pay for thier guilt?
@Fit2021
21 күн бұрын
Most Israeli Jews don't want to live on German soil. They consider Israel their ancestral "holy land". The ancestors of most Israeli Jews didn't live in Germany but in Poland, Yemen, etc.
Benoxyid is not ageinxsthe Bosnizn an Nhkoats gebnosyde for in fact it suported Germany,have not change from its Nazi time germany is sreal a nazi state
German are famous in histpry for only onè😢 reason
Guilty 😂😂😂
Give back the land to Palestinians the isrealies can go to live with there german brothers
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😂😂😂
mmmmmmmmm vir ...us..
European shame palastine pays
17:00 Your guest playing the clown regarding understanding what genocide prevention means according to international law!!@
why? because germany would like to see the continuation of facism 😂
Both are anti Muslamic
Germany is always on wrong side of history. Maybe because there are genocide nacion who never got punished because of that
And the disbelievers planned, but Allah planned. And Allah is the best of planners. Alquran 8:30
We cannot find the real Germans no more 1970s I sailed with many Germans from WW2 They did very well in the war and made Germany a nice country now
COMON NACI AND ISRAEL....ARE YOU SIRIUS......OOOOO>>>>. THERE ARE BRUDERS....YAAAAA
Shame unto Germany double standards
Guilt