When were you going to answer the question you presented in the title of the video? Or even discuss it at all???

@davidbell4216

2 ай бұрын

Thats a great comment I did not even notice that until you pointed it out.

This is our go to unit. Our residential mowing crews are very productive with the HDX. We definitely had transmission issues until Toro upgraded the transmissions but a nice fix by them and no transmission issues since.

Thanks for sharing. Great info and review.

I'm interested in seeing what happens next season with the Scag 30-inch. It's a beast of a machine for sure but supposedly the first iteration had quite a few small problems.

Excellent video as always my man. You should have 10x the amount of subs

Toro just released the new Turfmaster HDX 22235 with the same Kohler CV224 Command Pro engine as the Scag SFC.

I bought two TimeMasters last week for our 70 weekly lawn cutting route. So far I love them. Next is to build a tailgate/folding ramp to my F150 to roll them on and off the truck.

@emmanuelgonzalez9602

2 жыл бұрын

Check out the ramprack

@Abel3270

2 жыл бұрын

You haven’t had any problems with running a time master for commercial use?

@rawe63

2 жыл бұрын

@@Abel3270 it yet, doing about 60 in town residential lawns. I have bought a bunch of replacement parts, belts, cables and the idler pulley upgrade kits. We scrape out the deck grass, sharpen the blades and change the oil weekly.

@temujinkhan6326

Жыл бұрын

@@rawe63 So do you think it would be ok if I was doing only 15-20 yards a week? I currently use the honda hrx217

@temujinkhan6326

Жыл бұрын

@@emmanuelgonzalez9602 They are overpriced might as well buy a small trailer. There is another guy who makes them saw him on youtube and he makes them for under 1000.

Used Timemaster 30" for the last 6 yrs for 20 lawns every 10 days. After the 3yr mark, there is a cascade of part failure besides the normal maintenance items like belts and cables, like wheel axle assembly, wheel height adjusters, handle bars snapping in half. Is the Turfmaster wear and tear on these parts the same or better? The cables seem to go quickly. I'd have extra of those on hand as well. Over those six years, about $1500 - $2000 has been spent on parts and maintenance items for the (2)Toro Timemasters. Having said all that, the Toro Timemaster has produced a superior cut that I'd assume would be the same for the Toro Turfmaster.

I'll stick with my Timemaster 30. Much lighter, more comfortable. I'm solo and have a ton of hours on mine. If you have a crew, stick with good quality 21 or 22" mowers. You'll have less repairs and headaches. For me, the 30" is a true time saver being solo. Great video.

@temujinkhan6326

Жыл бұрын

I have been wondering if the timemaster would be a better option for me. I only cut twice a week with about 550 cuts a season as I do other jobs. Thinkng that with a timemaster I can replace every year or every two years before any big issues come along.

@KeepItMowed

Жыл бұрын

@@temujinkhan6326 It will do you fine.

Mind the air filter on the kawi engine

Awesome, thank you for sharing the knowledge! And 1 Million in revenue?? Wow! That is goals right there! Just my 3rd year here. Long ways to go. Congrats on your success :)

@LawnThumbs

Жыл бұрын

No problem and glad your doing this! Thank you! And we just did 2.1M last season but who’s counting 😂

@abelgomez379

Жыл бұрын

@@LawnThumbs Love it! Entrepreneurship lifestyle baby! To more millions & adding value to people, cheers! -Abel

@NoNew42

Жыл бұрын

@@LawnThumbs congratulations man. What can you recommend to build more clients? I’ve got about 20-25 now and looking to really expand this thing.

@LemonySnicket-EUC

Жыл бұрын

​@@NoNew42offer more services.

I just bought a TurfMaster with the Kohler engine today. It’s heavy, but it’s built to last. I use to run a 48” John Deer with what I called the pistol grip in 5th gear. I’m a 5’3” 120lb female.

@LawnThumbs

10 ай бұрын

Nice! Those pistol grips killed my wrist at one time haha. What state and city do you service?

@jcfc8197

10 ай бұрын

@@LawnThumbs I’ve mowed lawns in Virginia and in Texas. I’m retired now, my stepdad passed away in March so I moved back to Virginia to help my mother out. The TurfMaster is to mow my mother’s lawn. Her 30 yrs old John Deer lawn tractor died. It’s hard to change mowing directions with a lawn tractor. Definitely not a zero turn. Yeah those pistol grips sure gave me big forearms. lol

Scag is well made, swivel wheels, revised model but 230 lbs. But the Turfmaster is so much lighter. I looked at the Ferris which can handle any turf. Reliability and light weight paired with good hill climbing, and pickup. That’s what I want.

@georgiafan6618

Жыл бұрын

PS I had a time master and it was horrible. Weak power and Everything broke. I should have gotten a commercial unit. Live and learn.

I just bought this mower. Quick question. I feel like I’m running behind it when I engage the self propel. You’re walking at a much better pace. Is there an adjustment I’m missing?

I am sure this is a good mower but I would definitely NOT decribe it as light !!! That is the main reason I went with the Time Master . I am a solo operator and take very good care of my equipment and it has held up very well !!!

Cool👍

Is there a major difference between this and the ExMark s series 30in

Very interesting that you haven't noticed much difference between the Kawasaki and Kohler engines. I bought a commercial Toro 21" in the spring with the Kohler Command Pro 173 cc engine. I have been really disappointed with the mower. It has no power compared to the Kawasaki FJ180v. My dealer adjusted the rpm to 3200 and it still seems to have trouble generating enough lift to give as good of a cut as you see with the Kawasaki engine. I also had a starter rope break at 80 hours and last month, when temperatures dropped to 10 degrees celsius and lower, it would take 15-20 pulls, on average, to get it started.

@officemanager8624

Жыл бұрын

Kohler has the more powerful engine, Kawasaki is 173cc.

Una pregunta Freddy si la transmission empiesa a fallar cual seria la mejor obsion para remplasarla dado a los ploblemas de los primeros modelos, el modelo de mi maquina es año 2016 22210 s/n 316000113

I can't figure out how to open the side discharge chute.

So it has rear wheel self propel?

I've sold my exmark 30 and now selling my toro hdx after one season. My guys complain that its to heavy when mowing 5 yards all next to each other around 5k sq ft. We went back to the 21 toro and they love it cus its super fast and light weight. They actually got done at the same time after timing them. The 30 is bulky when turning

@joeraptor1

2 жыл бұрын

Which toro 21" units do you have: Kawasaki or Kohler engine based ones?

@walterrocha8764

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeraptor1 the kawasaki engine

@joeraptor1

2 жыл бұрын

@@walterrocha8764 I bought the Toro commercial 21" with the Kohler CV173 engine on it. I haven't been happy with it. It has no power compared to the Kawasaki engine. Dealer adjusted rpms to 3200 and made little difference as the mower doesn't generate enough lift. Starter cord broke at 80 hours and when the temperature drops to 10 degrees celsius or less, it takes 15-20 pulls to get the thing to start when it is cold. Definitely need to look at the kawasaki models next spring.

@gls3894

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent real life statement here!!!!. Because of the weight of these 30's(especially a 230lb scag) they beat up the crews and actually reduce productivity. I went with the YBravo Gen II 25" commercial FJ180 Fawasaki 130 lbs. not much heavier then a 21", just as manuverable, only $1400 bucks and the couple of extra inches does increase productivity.

@LemonySnicket-EUC

Жыл бұрын

I'm 62 years old and I just deal with it. It's definitely more efficient and saves me time.

I use a 30 inch commercial just for jungles and when I come on the regular I use the time master to mow small grass clippings and move faster

Why doesn't Toro put castor wheels on the front of this mower?? Considering the weight of this mower it would make it so much easier to turn around!!

For that price, the 2022 Scag 30" is looking real good.

@gls3894

2 жыл бұрын

50lbs heavier then the new turfmaster(22235) that has the same engine as the Scag.

@drumhead14

2 жыл бұрын

@@gls3894 true but that scag is going to easly out last the toro. From working in the city runing scags . As long as you keep up with them you can't stop them.

@gls3894

2 жыл бұрын

@@drumhead14 Yes Sir, Since my comment I have spoken to 3 crews that I've seen using the Scagg 30". All of them without fail say its a mulching machine and a beast of a mower even on 2 week cuts(majority of lawns in DFW area). The other thing they say is that its heavy and they have the youngsters running them....

5:12 I’ll put the description in the link below. That was funny.

Am I really so much in the minority "looking for a very solid well built small (say 20") mower that is free of bells and whistles and agile" ? Anyone aware of a mower ticking these boxes? Need one for doing small banks or in and around tight spaces that doesn't need replacing halfway thru a season!

@LawnThumbs

Жыл бұрын

21” commercial toro mower. Built like a brick

Perhaps I missed it, but I don't believe the question in the title was addressed, much less answered.

@1320str8liner

2 жыл бұрын

I was just about to say the same thing

Waiting for the Electric version.

Umm so where was the comparison? I was expecting pro cons using a time master vs a hex for commercial useage as the tittle implies

timmed blades=bad new when the belt for the blades go. if that happens then you need a belt, blades and spindles. great vid. id like to see a 36 or a 48 walk behind. oh and they should make it so those front wheels can steer instead of having to pivot the machine to turn. so damn heavy

Exactly the same as a timemaster

I have both……the timemaster is underpowered

Come on man

I love my timemaster, it's lighter and much cheaper. I plan on upgrading in the end of next season but still won't buy the turfmaster imo

@harryharry3193

Жыл бұрын

i agree with you they all break......fix the timemaster....

The ruts left behind suck big time. NEXT!

No way 2500 :( I got ferries fw15 Honda engine 390cc and with mulch kit cash $-2600 LOL 😂 it crazy 😜

@anrivera1975

2 жыл бұрын

Used I guess

@starbugmechanic5236

2 жыл бұрын

Here in Tacoma at Ace Hardware it's $2850.

Is it broke yet?

@LawnThumbs

7 ай бұрын

Haha no the turf masters never broke on me. I think I had them for about 2 years. Then I was able to trade them in back to the dealer and I was able to get great value for them. Like more than 50% and I used that money towards a 36” grandstand.

Whirld

Costs twice as much.

Scag SPC 30 is far Superior

clickbaity title if I've ever seen one. no comparison with the timemaster at all.

They didn't even mention the TimeMaster. A big Lawn Thumbs DOWN!

Toro died in 2022..

@kevinwolcott5114

Жыл бұрын

My Timemaster also just blew a hole in the side of the engine(completely shot) after cutting some tall grass. Engine is likely too weak for two blades. Was not low on oil either. Come on Toro.

Two year old mower is now out of date, why wast time talking about history. Have toro not made anything better in two years.