"we didn't have any preconceived idea of what it was going to look like" good job saying that with a straight face, guy

@edwardfeast1697

2 жыл бұрын

Best piece of bullshit in the entire video XD

@andrewnorris5415

2 жыл бұрын

@@edwardfeast1697 Richest guy in the UK and a billion euros in this. Shame it is being built in France though.

@richacoll1

2 жыл бұрын

Toffs and cash = car

@delphipascal

2 жыл бұрын

Especially seeing as Jim Radcliffe approached JLR to buy the tooling for the defender lol

@imnotusingmyrealname4566

2 жыл бұрын

That was the funnjest part xD. They need to be that, they're marketing guys.

It's like they made a vehicle with features that people actually want. Being able to unscrew the switch box along with a graphic that tells you the dimensions of the vehicle is genius. Cheers to Ineos, the last company I expected to make a vehicle like this

@poplaurentiu4148

2 жыл бұрын

An useful recreational & adventure vehicle.. but this just remind me of Rivian & GMC Hummer EV for about same price those are fully electric, have different new options & things like tank turn & crab-walk mode among other things.. so yeahh..

@thebnicho

2 жыл бұрын

Correct. They listened to what the target market wanted instead of just heaping more tech into it and hoping it will impress. I hope it does really well and annoys Gerry McGovern and Land Rover immensely in the process.

@Wouter-van-der-Molen

2 жыл бұрын

@@thebnicho it wont, they will make millions selling current defenders whilst Ineos will lose many many millions trying to fling this dumpster on wheels.

@thebnicho

2 жыл бұрын

@@Wouter-van-der-Molen You must work for JLR. Jealousy is a curse. :D

@jamesleate

2 жыл бұрын

@@poplaurentiu4148 This is designed to be a bomb proof workhorse, not an EV gimmick off roader. In the Jungle there are no charging stations.

What we all hoped for when land rover said they were redesigning the defender in 2015

@nelosantos1487

2 жыл бұрын

Queria saber o representante para Portugal agradecia resposta se vão ter a versão 130 ou 110 dupla cabine

@nelosantos1487

2 жыл бұрын

Gustaria saber se vão ter 110 normal ou 90 todos com capota de lona para south África huntig

@RR-us2kp

2 жыл бұрын

What people hoped but wasn't willing to buy. Land Rover has to sell cars like all other companies. And most people don't buy cars like these. They only have silly opinions because opinions don't cost money.

@teabagtowers3823

2 жыл бұрын

You mean what the delusional rabid off road nutters wanted that nobody else actually wanted.

@angeltobit878

2 жыл бұрын

@@RR-us2kp , I don’t think so. There are a lot of people who like the old Defenders. There is a market for these.

I love how they said they're trying to make it as easy to repair as possible

@shortfattoad7317

2 жыл бұрын

Why would you want to repair it, do they know it will be really unreliable?

@eslofftschubar206

2 жыл бұрын

@@shortfattoad7317 this vehicle is meant to be used in the outback in ruggid terrain. things will brake for sure, so having it easy while repairing it is nice. don't compare this car to an SUV, you need to compare it with an old Defender, a Landcruiser or an old G-Class.

@shortfattoad7317

2 жыл бұрын

@Asv2000W Sure, like this will be used for a global expedition....

@teabagtowers3823

2 жыл бұрын

@@eslofftschubar206 In which case why wouldn't you just buy a Land Cruiser.

@eslofftschubar206

2 жыл бұрын

@@teabagtowers3823 Landcruiser 70 series are only available in Australia and for terrorists. All other countries and professions are excluded. The newer LC are just SUVs

I really appreciate the reference to the obscure Santana yet again showing you are a true car person

@Zerofightervi

2 жыл бұрын

The first vehicle I thought of when I saw the Ineos announcement. There's one driving about local to me.

@Zerofightervi

2 жыл бұрын

@@creamwobbly Go out on the street with a picture of both cars, I very much doubt anyone would be able to identify the Santana.

@jakal3429

2 жыл бұрын

i think the front does have some iveco massif

@apolofeve

2 жыл бұрын

@@jakal3429 The Massif was a rebadged Santana Anibal, also built in Spain.

@PerfectSpainValencia

2 жыл бұрын

I have a Santana Anibal. Looks very similar. Can drive it around on mountain trails and through fields with no worries. Quite brilliant off-road. But it is terrible on the road.

The designer trying to do mental and verbal gymnastics to not say they just used tracing paper over a 110 to design it was absolutely hilarious 🤣

@beauchamphuberville1355

2 жыл бұрын

It went to court as well! They got past it.

@1anre

2 жыл бұрын

@Nathan Marais the new defender makes me sad

@brijrajsinhjadeja1734

2 жыл бұрын

@Nathan Marais 💯 agreed

@JRizzle86

2 жыл бұрын

@@1anre You are sad

@simono4991

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly! I like the car and wish it every success, but pretending it isn't a 'continuity Defender' is just ridiculous.

That's seriously, easily, the most attractive interior of a car I've seen in a very long time 😍

Love the concept. Particularly the interior nails it for me, with the aircraft style roof console, Recaro seats and no nonsense design. With a straight 6 BMW petrol will be well worth a test drive.

Those roof buttons are so cool i would keep pressing them making noises with my mouth

@NitroNuggetTV

2 жыл бұрын

it just needed a red button and trigger on the gear selector for the full fighter jet experience lol

@nelsonclub7722

2 жыл бұрын

Bring it back in one piece 007.......

@nelsonclub7722

2 жыл бұрын

@@yyy-875 Hope so - should see what happened to the Defenders in previous films - and the new one in No Time To Die.....

@SoulTouchMusic93

2 жыл бұрын

As a lorry driver I do keep pressing them. For how shit daf's are the buttons make great noises.

If they don’t sell these to Australia they are definitely missing out.

@tussaudalex

2 жыл бұрын

July next year, Carsales already made a video about it

@grantswan8525

2 жыл бұрын

Australia won't buy them. they are to sophisticated

@brightymcbrightface

2 жыл бұрын

@@grantswan8525 these do look a bit too luxurious and will no doubt cost a lot more in Australia because the government maintains import taxes to protect the non-existent domestic auto industry (f-wits) but I think this will sell as many as they can build. If they offered this as a "hose out" I'd want one and it would earn a place in the conversation with Land Cruiser and Patrol.

@dannydale2902

2 жыл бұрын

If they don't sell it to Australia what are they going to do with all of those specially designed aftermarket Roobars? Can't remember seeing too many roos on the road on my last trip to the midlands I can also see why he dodged saying the word Defender. Anybody that tried to copy that poor vehicle that was so neglected by LR over three decades would not last long. So the design might have echoes of the Defender, just like the G series tries to, only it is a lot better execution. Fingers crossed it all works with the French build quality hopefully a touch better than the English

@kasinathar1874

2 жыл бұрын

European vehicles in the out back.? Haven’t seen any in my travels all over Australia. Mostly 70series Toyota’s. May be a lady or two in Mosman might buy one. Aussies are a smart bunch😀

Brilliant concept made real, looks like they have fixed everything that was wrong with the defender. Let’s hope it is a success💪

@inter-linked

2 жыл бұрын

I guess you’ve not checked the prototype reviews. LOL. Not much is fixed. They’ve actually managed to create more design issues. Brilliant.

@DavidKnowles0

2 жыл бұрын

@@inter-linked lol I hope this whole thing tanks.

@plasticjock1090

Жыл бұрын

But they haven't..

@jimmycricket5366

Жыл бұрын

I think any issues can be ironed out, whereas Landover just refused, sitting on their laurels.

I love everything about this. The physical buttons, the attention how every aspect of it will be used. Oh yea, looks cool too!

Looks like a defender, but was developed by Magna Steyr, the same people who build the Mercedes G-wagen, add a BMW engine and you got an odd mixture that can still be quite tasty

@lonerider3441

2 жыл бұрын

Some Defenders in South Africa had BMW straight six engines, so the idea of a BMW straight six powered Defender is not exactly new

@teabagtowers3823

2 жыл бұрын

@@lonerider3441 So even more likely it'll break down.

@DDLNX

2 жыл бұрын

I've had 6 bmw straight six diesels, all twin turbo varient inclusing wife's current X5 40d and its a phenomenal power plant and gearbox set up. Zero issues related to them. Definitely makes a solid heart for a rugged beast.

@TheAndre8900

2 жыл бұрын

They should make a more affordable ''agricoltural'' version, base model vinyl seats handcranked windows etc.

@wilhelm0022

2 жыл бұрын

@@teabagtowers3823 No, the new 6 Cylinder engines from BMW are really good and reliable

"let's make a defender since LR chose not to"

@dct124

2 жыл бұрын

It's probably reliable as well

A very long time ago I took my driving test in a Series 2 Land Rover and have loved them ever since (I passed) I am so pleased the Grenadier promises to recreate such an Iconic English institution, but I have to say that no matter what reason for the change I am devastated that the vehicle is not to be made on our shores, especially with the recent hostility shown to us by France.

@johnswinkels4383

2 жыл бұрын

Well I am Australian I have ordered my grenadier and we told Macron to take his 90 billion worth of subs and stick it where the sun don't shine. What a spoiled little brat they kept raising the price for an inferior product. Now were in bed with the poms and the yanks as it should be.

@eekamoose

2 жыл бұрын

The sad fact is that no car manufacturer in their right minds will invest in a new car manufacturing plant in post-Brexit Britain. Being outside the European Union makes Just In Time manufacturing impossible. This was predictable and indeed pointed out many times by opponents of Brexit.

@gospelofrye6881

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnswinkels4383 Did you see the part of the video where the factory for the Grenadier is in France? 🤣🤣 Fair play though - squabbling with the French government is inevitable, but actually hating stuff made by French-located multinational private industry? Unthinkable!

@johndavison9699

2 жыл бұрын

​@@eekamoose You obviously missed the memo that Nissan is expanding its car production in Sunderland. It produces about the same as Renault produces in France. The UK produces over 900,000 cars a year.

@eekamoose

2 жыл бұрын

@@johndavison9699 You're right, I did miss this, thank you for pointing it out. Of course it's excellent news for Sunderland, a town that I love and where half my family comes from. Nissan's expansion will help offset the closures and loss of jobs elsewhere in the British car industry, not to mention Tesla's decision to drop the UK as the venue for their new mega-factory and build outside Berlin instead.

Having a Bronco that I wheel hard, I truly appreciate what Ineos has done with the Grenadier. I once owed a Land Rover 88 back in the day. I wish I still had it, but it was limited as to what and where you could go in it. Off road yes, hi-way, not so much. The Grenadier seems to be, like my FORD Bronco, a jack of all trades. I would love to take it across the Rubicon.

Best of everything into one. Love the "physical" switches, buttons, and the roof top controls for the off road. Everything is systematically placed. It's so good to have the buttons, rather than searching and digging into a touch screen based set up. Steering wheel can be improvised. And also, would love to see analogue gauges, speedo, rpm, temp, battery, oil level etc, for the driver please! 😁

@robertwbeams9929

2 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed Analogue engine oil temp, coolant temp, transmission temp?, would be perfect.

@danielrosales5968

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. I so dislike touch screens on new models. Those are for soccer moms. Buttons are for real man! No disrespect for ladies that are practical like us. Is just that buttons always work better when you are off road or concentrated on driving. As you should.

@maxine2798

2 жыл бұрын

Why would you want to look at the roof to make an emergency quick change to the drive settings? How about differentially shaped controls on the transmission tunnel?

@grumpybugger110

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxine2798 Simply drive your car. You'll soon learn where the buttons are located and be able to use them from muscle-memory. If you drive it, you'll know it.

@threeboardsfour

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxine2798 Agree, also the roof switches are going to be closer to your eyes, so for people that need glasses for close up, they'll be twice as annoying.

When you're rich enough to recreate a discontinued product because you want it...

@PaddyMcQueen

2 жыл бұрын

But laking any taste....

@benvester3340

2 жыл бұрын

It's needed ...not Just wanted, because Land Rover shat the bed with the rebodied discovery they call the 'Defender'. Gwagen and original Defender shape worked for 40 years, so why fix it?

@alonsoaac

2 жыл бұрын

And making it in the right country cause if it was chinese or some years ago korean, it would be appearing in top 10 knockoffs videos...

@winjaywin

2 жыл бұрын

@@benvester3340 I guess its the same deal as with the Mustang Mach E. These are recognizable brand names that can be used to sell their latest creations.

@andrewnorris5415

2 жыл бұрын

win/win, as it looks like some others still want it. will be interested to see how it does compare to the New Defender. Some had a go at LR but I think they made the right choice overall myself.

“We didn’t have any Pre conceived ideas of what it would look like” but somehow it ended up looking like a defender.

I reluctantly sold my old Landrover Defender when I emmigrated from Blighty. Loved that car, but since they don't sell in the USA, (because of lack of modern things like airbags etc) I've had to resign myself to future without this iconic offroader in it... until now.... this car is going to ROCK the US industry filled with G-Wagons and Wranglers. Can't wait to see this in person :)

Love that pure function dictates the design.The focus on it being a more mechanical, analogue means that it has a charm that the new defender has lost

@levyroth

2 жыл бұрын

Ok boomer 😂

@nn-uj1iv

2 жыл бұрын

@@levyroth ok jew

@VickersDoorter

2 жыл бұрын

"charm that the new Defender has lost". ZZZZZzzzzzz. Another needle stoically stuck in the groove. Having replaced my cumbersome 1998 110 with the new Defender a year ago, I can with a good degree of qualification say that you can keep your analogue function-dictated design. I've never had so much versatile off-road fun in a 4x4, nor towed 3.4 tonnes across europe with such consummate ease.

There is a large market out there for a body on frame utility vehicle. One that is designed to survive being a work tool. They MUST get the reliability right. It needs to start every time. Bits must not drop off. Maintenance needs to be affordable and simple.

@no1DdC

2 жыл бұрын

They had the right idea by buying an existing, working factory (and the workforce with it). Getting production going is where most upstart car manufacturers fail.

@craigbentley1326

2 жыл бұрын

I love it! I have two questions. When will it make it to the US? And what will the actual cost be? The new diesel Jeep Wranglers are running $62,000.00 plus with options (3 L).

@1chish

2 жыл бұрын

Quote: "They MUST get the reliability right" and: "Maintenance needs to be affordable and simple" You really think a Mercedes design powered by a BMW engine will be either of these things?

@TheMaxilegs

2 жыл бұрын

BMW engine though so it won't last past 300k km

@robabs4545

2 жыл бұрын

Just like the old defender 😂

Really enjoyed this video. Great insights on the design, vision, people involved and the potential in this project. Thank you.

Bring it to Australia! Looks like a great combination of smart engineering and robust design..! Fan!

I love it. When you love an iconic part of your home country and have the $$ to make your prefect version of it. I love how it’s just put together with off shelf stuff and engineered to be functional. Modular perfection. It’s like engineers designed it lol

@JohnHughesChampigny

2 жыл бұрын

In France, with German parts...

@TheMelbournelad

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnHughesChampigny ahh so UK is still in the EU really 😝

@inter-linked

2 жыл бұрын

How long have you been working for the company. LOL. It’s a bitza.

@TheMelbournelad

2 жыл бұрын

@@inter-linked well as an Aussie, I’m never.

@pj4433

2 жыл бұрын

@@inter-linked everything is made of bits. Usually the cheapest and easiest to make regardless of how reliable they will be. They are made to a cost to be just good enough to last the warranty. Choosing the best bits made by experts go last and you think that’s a problem? I’ve worked in car factories. I’ve worked for trw and denso all sort of parts end up in all sorts of manufacturers cars.

Oh my god - the switches on the top are dream material. So cool. My inner child is happy.

@Lucas-ck1po

2 жыл бұрын

Dude, i think it's the best part of the car lol

@theunheardprophet4315

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lucas-ck1po Bro, I completely agree. I especially adore the fact that there is an unused compartment for custom switches and toggles.

@Lucas-ck1po

2 жыл бұрын

Me: [randomly presses roof buttons] My friends: "what are you doing?" Serious me: "Trying to take us out of this bloody situation" Them: "We are in the parking lot... and why are you making noises with your mouth?"

Id love a skinned down version, being no interior padding, sound dampening etc to allow for easy cleaning.

I want it so much. Simple, well laid out interior and beautiful

Looks great, and if it comes to Australia, I’m buying one!

The times I’ve eaten my takeaway dinner off the wing off my old Land Rover when I’ve been busy at work…

@riboid

2 жыл бұрын

Prawn sandwiches?

@PillSharks

2 жыл бұрын

@@riboid normally a special fried rice from wing fu or a large cod and chips from captain cod’s.

I love the way he's desperately avoiding saying "well, we wanted it to look as close to a Defender as we could legally make it".

@wilsondetailing4577

2 жыл бұрын

i noticed this too and loved every thing he said to avoid it hahaha

Choices! You can get a new Defender, which is really a Discovery, or a G-wagon if you don't want your house any more, or a Grenadier (sometime soon probably). Or perhaps an ageing old Defender if you want capability and a bad back. The choice is yours!

@RR-us2kp

2 жыл бұрын

Or if you live in the civilized world and not in a jungle, you can buy a normal car or a normal SUV. Like most people do.

@peterfranklin1759

2 жыл бұрын

More choices....

@pj4433

2 жыл бұрын

@@RR-us2kp can’t use the c word as it’s racist ps I’ll buy what I want fascist.

@RR-us2kp

2 жыл бұрын

@@pj4433 what?

This is the type of car that we need here in the Middle East, very capable and has minimal amount of tech that could go bust. The only remaining car/ SUV that offers this here is the Nissan Patrol Safari, and it’s in the same price territory, so if this proofs it’s capability it would sell like crazy in this market.

@patrickkonig

2 жыл бұрын

This vehicle is perfect for the Middle East and beyond. The west seems to thin k we need G-Wagons with colour changing displays when in reality we need what Land Rover should have produced 10 years ago. Good luck to them.

@shogunero3.6

2 жыл бұрын

What do u mean only Nissan patrol safari? We’ve got the Toyota Land Cruiser 70 series too. As well as the Mitsubishi Pajero...all in the same price range.

@BurriedTruth

2 жыл бұрын

@@shogunero3.6 maybe he is in the UAE when i was in qatar the land cruiser was the SUV of choice compared to the UAE but plenty of Nissan patrols as well. For whatever reason the Pajero did not become popular with the locals in Qatar.

they were drinking at the Grenadier pub in Belgravia. Hence the name

@Slimboid

2 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised, you'd think the tax on a pint would send Ratcliffe running! Oh wait...

@chrisglover2133

2 жыл бұрын

Nice marketing story... like the drawing in the sand.

@simonward5833

2 жыл бұрын

Lucky they weren’t in the Pig & Whistle.

@AtariKids

2 жыл бұрын

Great pub

@gkh50

2 жыл бұрын

@@AtariKids indeed. one of my locals

One of the few cars recently that I'm genuinely stoked about! I'm so mad I can't afford one right away! Would order it within a heartbeat.

Looks perfect. Love the entrepreneurial spirit. The collaboration could be the key to longevity. Embracing the aftermarket to innovate on a platform they have helped design is a similar path to smartphones. Love it. Can't wait to be able to afford one.

This is great news, they've saved the defender essentially. Hope they have a lot of success.

@drevil2783

2 жыл бұрын

......at a starting price of £45k???? F-ing forget it. They can shove it where the sun never shines.

@argh6666

2 жыл бұрын

They won't. Another vanity project.

@drevil2783

2 жыл бұрын

@@argh6666 spot on

@drevil2783

2 жыл бұрын

@@argh6666 true.

@imnotusingmyrealname4566

2 жыл бұрын

@@drevil2783 They aren' a gigantic auto conglomerate. Do you understand economics? This isn't expensive at all (in context, for lots of people it is).

The cherry on the top would have been if they could have had this built in the UK.

@damianlee4822

2 жыл бұрын

Land Rover Jaguar might throw a tantrum and kill this fledging star if it’s built in uk

@horsenuts1831

2 жыл бұрын

The UK is now finished as a manufacturing country. All of the uneducated and stupid people who voted for Brexit are now going to receive democracy 'good and hard' up their collective arses. Still. Brexit was good for French manufacturing.

@Gordanovich02

2 жыл бұрын

@@horsenuts1831 As if our manufacturing sector didn't collapse to almost nothing well before 2016. Short memories...

@timvins

2 жыл бұрын

Should be renamed the “Legionnaire”

@chrisdechristophe

2 жыл бұрын

No this was the cake that was lost. Its also a shame to have done the engineering in Germany too.

Looks great. Only thing missing is a winch in the front bumper.

I absolutely love this vehicle! Having owned a Defender before (which wasn't perfect) I think they've addressed the problems, and have improved it in every way!! I would definitely buy one if I had the cash!

Absolutely beautiful, heart is stolen! This, coming from a very die hard defender 110 fan. This, if everything that is said about it is true, will be one of the best 4x4 for a very long time to come, I can only take my hat off to its designers and perfect timing after the disaster that was the new LR defender.

@peopleschamp7258

2 жыл бұрын

I love how ppl complained that the new defender was not for a farmer. Ineos said hold my beer and charging 120k and everyone is cool with it.

@fgougeon3268

2 жыл бұрын

@@peopleschamp7258 Don't forget "tHe NeW DeFEnDer is FuLL of EleCTROniCs tHat WilL BreAK". Oh what's that? A car twice as expensive by a company that has never made a car that's also full of electronics (like every modern car)? Fuck me up bro!

@imnotusingmyrealname4566

2 жыл бұрын

@@fgougeon3268 You can either never accept any off-roader ever because they are modern vehicles or be happy this existst. There will never be a Defender again. Toyota sells the 70 Series Land Cruiser in 3rd world countries. That's the only way they get away with the ancient engineering, which is great ana durable and all, but it can never be sold in a first world country because of goverment regulations.

@johncarroll7481

2 жыл бұрын

Let’s hope the turning circle is less than an oil tanker 😊

@thoughtcriminal5655

2 жыл бұрын

@@peopleschamp7258 its not 120k though

A masterclass in presenting design without saying you ripped off someone else’s work 😂

@jwvandegronden

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! And the presenter? I would’ve struggled to not go: “c’mon man!! Don’t BS me! Look at that thing! D E F E N D E R !” But he’s British, and he would preemptively apologized for his outburst or as he did, go along with it not trying to offend his host ... All in all. I love it. For all the details and most of all the fact a billionaire can come up with a car he knows people at the bottom of Olympus might share his dreams to have a car that does it all, within a price range not too offensive. Tip hat, really!

@vanderz1012

2 жыл бұрын

Well technically it's not their work anymore. Land Rover took Ineos to court over it and they actually lost the rights to the old Defender design 😂😂😂😂😂. To be honest though it looks way better than any Defender and looks like it has Jeep Wrangler level capability 😎

@henryintheuk

2 жыл бұрын

No one is saying its not the real new defender,

@jamesleate

2 жыл бұрын

@@henryintheuk It's not the real new Defender though is it? The new Defender is the new Defender, this is a copy of the old Defender with a new powertrain. The New Defender is a really good car, it isn't identicle to the last one, but nobody bought the old one (which is why it was discontinued). This has to be a lot better than the old Defender because otherwise it will just pick up the terrible sales figures from the old Defender.

@nnoddy8161

2 жыл бұрын

Who ripped who off? Series I from the Willys Jeep? 70 Series ripped the Defender? Land Cruiser ripped Range Rover? G-Wagen ripped Defender? Grenadier ripped them all!!!!

Thank you for the great subject coverage! Top job!

Perfect vehicle for outdoor pursuits , Great for camping / kayaking trips , love it .

Finally someone made interior panels how I always wanted them, aircraft panel style!

@alfandersson3593

2 жыл бұрын

Without hidden screws! No more covering in plastic or plastic clips, show us where the screws are!

@stasisthebest

2 жыл бұрын

mini cooper mate

I've been a Land Rover fanatic for many years and have owned and still own a number of Land Rovers (four currently registered and on the road...I tend to just keep them forever). My Land Rovers are all Series or Defenders. I am currently looking at the possibility of purchasing a new Defender, but I'm not completely sold on them. I just want a basic, utilitarian vehicle that keeps it as simple as possible with longevity. I had thought that Land Rover had no option in this day and age but to leave the classic Series/Defender shape behind, but the Ineos Grenadier appears to have managed to create the vehicle that I wish Land Rover had evolved the Defender into. I'm quite conflicted with which way I'm going to go! I'll be very interested to see what their pricing and availability is in Australia. Phil - Queensland, Australia.

@hunt4redoctober628

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly Land Rover created a new 'plastic' Defender, OK for the school run or the tranquil green lanes of England, but it's very debatable if it will ever be successful in the 'real' 4x4 market because of its design and huge dependency on electronics. The Grenadier seems to be something very different and looks like it will be properly 'ruggedised' to take the punishment of offroading /overlanding in some pretty remote and multi-terrain parts of the world. I certainly know what I will be spending my money on.

@rivergladesgardenrailroad8834

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. Could be a big hit here if its classed as utility and GST and expenses are 100% allowe

@bogged2theeyeballs695

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on how prepared you are to empty a substantial amount of your bank balance.....A "value for money" proposition here in Oz ?? Up to the individual I guess.

@realMaverickBuckley

2 жыл бұрын

Great points. I know someone involved and if it was me, I'd go Grenadier. I think it will be an immediate cult classic, and a great vehicle. I also think for what you get, 45k for a new one seems.. pretty reasonable.

@alancrabtree1021

2 жыл бұрын

Phil mate, you say you have four Series Land Rovers/ Defenders. If you’re looking for a “basic, utilitarian vehicle that keeps it as simple as possible with longevity” why don’t you just look in your barn/garage? You’re in an enviable position with what you’ve got, be happy! 👍

These will sell like cupcakes. Even I'd buy one and I live in the city. Amazing set of wheels. Clean and straight forward. Just how I like it.

@RR-us2kp

2 жыл бұрын

No they won't. A bunch of KZread pretenders will say they'd buy them. But nobody is going to spend money on something like this in 2021. We don't live in jungles or deserts anymore. And nobody with dignity will drive this in a city. It's like driving a Jeep. People know immediately that you're not sure whether you're gay or not, so you're overcompensating.

My dad preordered his on the 1st of October and him and I specced it out for 2 hours before my online school started that day. Can’t wait for it to arrive and be added to the collection because it looks awesome!

Looks absolutely spot on, inside and out. Sign me up for the straight 6 diesel.

@RasheedKhan-he6xx

2 жыл бұрын

Me too - if they ever actually make it.

@robertedward9456

2 жыл бұрын

No good when they do away with petrol and go electric

@6ettinold

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertedward9456 eh? A diesel is no good once petrol disappears? If you are referring to fossil fuels in general, sales of new petrol and diesel cars are being phased out in the UK in 9 years, but no one has suggested the sale of fuel will suddenly stop. My guess is petrol and diesel will simply get too expensive to buy, but we'll have synthetic versions of both before then as nyway.

I feel this will do well in Australia especially for SES services

@thatcamowrx551

2 жыл бұрын

If Pickering motoring group saw this I wouldn’t be surprised if they were interested in opening a dealership and starting to import

@Paris.Kalachnikov

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent all round with its own distinct form. I like it a lot

@user-ip1jk6yn6k

2 жыл бұрын

its a very nice car and I hope they do open a dealership here, there would be big competition between toyotas 70 series.

@grantchallinor5263

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-ip1jk6yn6k A Toyota 70 Series is easy to get parts/servicing for and has an engine that will likely do 500,000+ km - I'm not sure a totally new vehicle from a totally new manfacturer (great though it looks) with a BMW engine.... (!) can compete with Toyota's incredible toughness, reliability and longevity.....

@treacletart4365

2 жыл бұрын

This will not do well in Australia or other countries similar as this uses a very complicated BMW engine. We all know how bad these engines have been and very unreliable with their plastic engine parts.

The best Grenadier introduction that I have yet seen. That little gem of a question Toby Ecuyer received from the grey man about switchable brake lights touches at the level of control prospective users want. Many's the time as a firefighter I've wanted to chop the wires on a Toyota 'door open' bonger . "I know the bloody door's open. I opened it and I'm smart enough to shut it when I want to go somewhere." If ONLY there was a manual 'box I'd have put my money down already.

This seems to be a more than capable vehicle the idea of taking the best from individual manufacturers,and boxing it all up into one vehicle makes sense and should reduce the cost of research down ,keep up the good work

I am really digging the interior. Especially with that glass rooftop. Makes it feel like a helicopter.

@alexbrown1995

2 жыл бұрын

It'd be bloody hot crossing the Simmo. I assume there would be covers of some sort.....

I like it, i like the aircraft theme inside which adds character :)

I did a test drive in one of these in Sussex and the suspension was godly smooth.

The friendly horn is my favourite feature. So simple!

Landrover had every chance to redesign the defender but still retain its iconic look. I applaud ineos for being brave and having the guts to see this through. It's a big investment with all combustion engines scheduled for doom at 2035.

@hopembikiwa4519

2 жыл бұрын

Not Africa 😂

The interior looks phenomenal.

@peopleschamp7258

2 жыл бұрын

I know right. The 80's called asking for their love child of Radio Shack and Boombox

@imnotusingmyrealname4566

2 жыл бұрын

I was surprised how well they pulled it off. Bravo.

Having grown up driving in, and operating, series 1 and 11 landrovers, I love this, and will definitely be ordering one in the not too distant future, thank you

I really appreciate some of the car manufacturers who makes these basic, straightforward, and boxy suvs that are meant to go off of pavement in this age of car "electrification". Because there are a lot of people in this market that many car companies just gloss over. Not everyone can afford or even want a self driving car that can only be fixed at the dealership mechanic shops.

"Toot" love it!

@Radde1Radde

2 жыл бұрын

Me, too! Would have loved to hear it! Why didn't you press it, @Henry Catchpole?

@andrewnorris5415

2 жыл бұрын

Chitty bang bang comes to mind - that was all bout inventing and new ideas ;)

@Alaster-

2 жыл бұрын

Toot, toot... Ahh stuff it - HONK!

@philipsteer1115

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, that's so simple but clever and useful. Hopefully other car makers take that on.

@iangraham871

2 жыл бұрын

Should've been "PARP"!

This and the new Lotus all you need for 100k

@yusafmalik5171

2 жыл бұрын

That lotus is an absolute beauty for 60k a no brainer

@thecompanioncube4211

2 жыл бұрын

@@yusafmalik5171 Absolutely

@oneeleven9832

2 жыл бұрын

I reckon your bang on…got a build slot reserved for the Lotus.

@freddiegriggs2277

2 жыл бұрын

Perfect combo oh my goodness

@richacoll1

2 жыл бұрын

I reckon it’s entry price will be far north of 45 grand, but we’ll see

Great video, love watching this 4x4 come to life, I hope I can afford one when they get to the Aussie shores👍🍻

Love the concept, cant wait to see its release!

The interior controls alone have me sold

@Ganbacchau

2 жыл бұрын

I know right, Who could have thougt knobs n buttons could look so cool haha. And on the ceiling as well!

Loved the fact that the Special Forces got involved with the input on this project. Sometimes basic is best, less to go wrong. There's something comforting in that knowledge really.

I love it, love the interior. What a beautiful looking 4wd. I'd be very happy in one of these.

Absolutely exceeded my expectations … fabulous execution gents ! So smart to address this market worldwide. So excited to see and own !

Canceled two Bronco day one reservations to wait for this. I hope they make it happen in the US market.

@Adrian_Nel

2 жыл бұрын

They might struggle to get there coz of a whole lot of fed regs

@Jack-yl7cc

2 жыл бұрын

They are neither on the pre-approved list for US import nor on the pending list for imports. They haven't even made a working production model yet, so far all they have is non-road legal prototypes. I like the concept of this vehicle but I think it will still be a few years before you buy it even in the EU, much less the US. www.nhtsa.gov/document/eligible-vehicles-imported-other-countries-non-canadian www.nhtsa.gov/importing-vehicle/status-pending-vehicle-import-eligibility-petitions

@larrym1112

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jack-yl7cc yup. I can only dream of having a modern defender type car instead of spending $80k on a 25 year old beat up defender here in the US. hopefully they make this happen.

@peopleschamp7258

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt that unless you were at the bottom of the list.

@peopleschamp7258

2 жыл бұрын

@@larrym1112 you realize they are pricing this at 75k starting price here in the US.

Henry is really channelling his inner Attenborough in this one.

They have absolutely nailed it! what an awesome machine!

Wow, that looks incredible!

I love it 😍. Looking forward to this car going global. Nice job guys. 👍

Man this would be an overlanders dream here Stateside. I would absolutely love one.

@JeepCherokeeful

2 жыл бұрын

Not really. The new Bronco will be good

@nottherealjk

2 жыл бұрын

@@JeepCherokeeful I've been in the new Bronco here in Texas, and it didn't really do much for me to be honest. Incredibly capable to be sure when properly equipped, just not my flavor.

@JeepCherokeeful

2 жыл бұрын

@@nottherealjk what’s better?! Besides the availability situation, seems top notch in USA

@nottherealjk

2 жыл бұрын

@@JeepCherokeeful Really depends on what you want to use it for. We rode in it at Hidden Falls outside Austin and it was super capable on 35's on pretty technical trails, but for me the interior wasn't a place I'd like to spend in an overland situation. My neighbors TJ Jeep hung with it just as well but I assume the jeep wouldn't nearly be as nice on the highway. I have a '19 4Runner which is almost perfect for me but it could stand to be a bit bigger and I would always love more mileage per tank, but I can't hang quite as well rock crawling. I suppose it just depends on what you're looking for.

@JeepCherokeeful

2 жыл бұрын

I get it, daily use outweighs overlanding fun, and looking cool capabilities.

Grenadier helped me to find Carfection -and it's an immediate 'subscribe' from me. Cheers for that! A very nice vehicle, beautifully presented.

Excellent, new concept. Aircraft style electrical panels on the roof and dashboard. Well thought. No one has done this before. I love that style. Hope other manufactures will follow this design.

As someone that drives a '99 Hilux, this simplicity excites me.

@vindieter

2 жыл бұрын

Please explain a bit more please. Compared to a ‘99 Hilux it’s littered with electronics. (Coming from a 79 Series owner)

@BobbyDazzler888

2 жыл бұрын

bmw motor is not simplicity

@kirilltristan694

2 жыл бұрын

@@vindieter I mean simplicity in the design, knobs and dials and a washable interior.

@kirilltristan694

2 жыл бұрын

@@BobbyDazzler888 I mean in the design, knobs/dials... Sadly we aren't going to get simpler mechanics like older diesel engines.

@vindieter

2 жыл бұрын

@@kirilltristan694 Cool. I love it. Would buy one in a heartbeat. I would appreciate it if they get something out there that explains how they’re planning to sell, service, etc the vehicles

I think the aircraft switches on the ceiling sold it for me. And the ability to take the switch panels off. Would be easy to fabricate a new one with additions for your own use.

Absolutely fabulous....was so looking forward to its launch and not disappointed

Great looking vehicle and purpose built! I really like it. I'll seriously consider purchasing one.

When Land Rover introduced the new Defender everyone was complaining it didn't look enough like the old one. Now a company decides to make a replacement that looks like the original one, as is it's intention to, and now everyone here in the comments is complaining it looks too old and too much like the original Defender. I don't get it.

@WascalSpiwit

2 жыл бұрын

They complain because its not a Land Rover and looks very much like one.

@Lucas-ck1po

2 жыл бұрын

Enthusiasts complained they didn't get manual, simple, light and affordable RWD sportscars anymore and when Toyota made it they complained it wasn't powerful enough and that the interior looked simplistic compared to the competition.

@cra_55

2 жыл бұрын

We love the concept of it, but the styling is really lazy and seriously bordering on IP theft

@oliverallen5324

2 жыл бұрын

The people in the other videos love it. Don’t worry.

@WascalSpiwit

2 жыл бұрын

@@cra_55 Its very close to IP theft, and for a modernizes "retromod" look, its not even that great. The tail light look awful

Unfortunately, there will never be a field-serviceable petrol/diesel car again because of the ever-increasing emissions standards. The Grenadier shape looks like it will be a seller, but the complex mechanics and electrics make it a technician-serviceable car and that limits its application in rugged remote areas.

@bent5980

2 жыл бұрын

totally agree with this, the last field serviceable engine from Landrover was the 300Tdi and thats all you see in Africa unless its a Series, shame in a way the future is not better

@VolkerHett

2 жыл бұрын

@@bent5980 Depends on which side of the exhaust you are :D

@imnotusingmyrealname4566

2 жыл бұрын

ISIS uses 40 series Land Cruisers, because they are serviceable by their men.

@drdoolittle5724

2 жыл бұрын

Surely 'the military' will source something safe from electromagnetic warfare - perhaps Lord Jim has an order up his sleeve already, wink-wink!

As always a brilliant review. Thanks Lets just hope they can make enough for the demand.... me want

Henry, great informative video; I have been following the Grenadier since I heard the first whisper of a true Defender type vehicle replacement. I love it and although I am am LR enthusiast and past owner of 5 Defenders this vehicle surpasses the old Defender in all ways - it seems. I am in NZ but managed to fly to Frankfurt in 2019 for the new LR Defender unveiling and while its impressive its not what "we" wanted - this is!! The only question I have is how long will it be before a SWB version is available? Thanks again. KiwiChris

This might be the most perfect thing I’ve ever laid my eyes on

I’m very excited for this. I’ve been following the project since it was just an idea.

A brilliant concept completely abandoned by the motoring establishment. Bravo INEOS for taking up the challenge and making a proper job if it.

It’s great that their done there best to keep it as simple as possible. I really hope it’s a successful endeavor.

I like the farmer interior that can be hosed out.

@simonng2077

2 жыл бұрын

Hosed out with heated seats? Hmmm.

@brianbickle7395

2 жыл бұрын

@@simonng2077 maybe that version doesn’t have them??

@simonng2077

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianbickle7395 Maybe. But all the interior shots show a seat heater button.

@brianbickle7395

2 жыл бұрын

@@simonng2077 the “MailonLine “ motoring section says rubber flooring, wipe down upholstery and water resistant seats. They’re probably assuming people will use their intelligence and not go mad with a hose, I don’t know.

@JesterEric

2 жыл бұрын

Cant see many farmers buying one at the likely price as a working vehicle. Might sell a few to shooting estates to ferry people around

To my mind it’s a natural progression of the defender with perhaps more comfort and very probably wider abilities, I’d certainly love to own one. Fine engine choice too!

@tomaskusnir2374

2 жыл бұрын

Care to explain? I was under the impression BMW engines are anything but reliable and long lasting..

@greymatters2965

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomaskusnir2374 someone in the comment section says the B58 engine is also the one Toyota uses in its supras ....makes me comfortable knowing that at least

@nikolaykarpuzov5320

2 жыл бұрын

It is a good engine choice, people say that the N55 is the new 2JZ and B58 is the new generation of the N55. They are pretty reliable if you take care of them and follow the manufacturer servicing. BMW diesels in general are as reliable as every other diesel on the market at the moment, nothing special I think.

@ChristopherWhite-yg4hh

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomaskusnir2374 use your head. Not every BMW engine is the same type of engine.

I can't deny it. I really like what I'm seeing here. We need this in Australia. Being a Canadian/Australian, I can definitely recommend testing the Grenadier in either the Canadian Yukon territory or the Australian Simpson desert. Take your pick. Both will be challenging.

You had me at 'toot'..! 😂 Love the exterior and interior! The styling is amazing! If the price in the US is $65,000 to no more than $75,000 I'm in!

The only thing I'd think, I'm surprised they're not offering a 4 cylinder diesel commercial version? They talk about it being used professionally, I'd imagine companies would prefer a smaller diesel engine and a bigger load bay? Thinking on the lines of the Electricity Board Defenders that are currently being replaced by Hiluxes. Cool thing though, I'll have the B58 powered one.

@khalidacosta7133

2 жыл бұрын

It uses the BMW platform.... so entirely possible and feasible to drop in a 4cyl diesel. However in practice, a 6cyl doesn't mean much worse fuel economy.

@woodrow_mayes

2 жыл бұрын

mmmm..... stripper spec

@Lucas-ck1po

2 жыл бұрын

@@woodrow_mayes its not a stripper spec, he's right. They claim this is a heavy duty vehicle for farmers and forces instead of some posh-up toy for the wealthy but put a B58 in it? This is bullshit, I don't see some farmer carrying tools in this thing, this car doesn't replace their Toyotas, Nissans or their 90's Rovers. If they wanted this car to be a beater for laborers it should have had something like a Toyota IGH-Hi (2.8l diesel) or similar from Ford like their 5cyl or even a Cummins as the entry spec. Claiming this thing for such uses and puts a b58... gtfo This is as posh car for the rugged enthusiasts, its an enthusiasts class product not a tool for the professionals like they pretend it to be

@thebnicho

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lucas-ck1po I'm speaking as a multiple time and current Toyota 4wd owner. Toyota release problem engines and vehicles with faults every now and again. It's just the Toyota fan boys never admit it and Toyota quietly but happily recalls them and fixes them, thus satisfying the customer. If Ineos does the same, backs their product properly and fixes the inevitable issues properly, then they should be successful.

@Lucas-ck1po

2 жыл бұрын

@@thebnicho Oh Yes, i see. I don't think Japanese engines are trouble free or anything like that, and I'm a Nissan owner who has just fixed a corroded fuel line hehe. Every engine requires not only preventive maintenance but every now and then corrective maintenance too which happens when you put your equipment to its paces. I'm not a Toyota "fan boy" by any means and I don't think any of them is going to be trouble free, I just don't think the BMW units are going to have the same maintainability over the long run, and I also speak for experience. Dont get me wrong, I absolutely love bimmer engines, especially the b58. I think the M140i is one of the best hatches one can possibly have but I don't think its the best engine for a work load mule over a decade of use and abuse. Both of them are going to require fixes but the cost is going to be a little different aren't they? As a multiple toyota 4wd owner yourself, do you really think the long therm cost of those fixes would have been the same with a b57/58? Asking a serious question. Just imagine all of those fixes in a nearly 350hp+ BMW turbo straight six... I'm not being a fan of either but I'm just pondering what this product really is and for who it is for.

I love everything about this, apart from fact it's going to be made overseas - France of all places! Loses the whole plucky Brit vibe that (would have) suited it so well.

@TheConorkelly

2 жыл бұрын

I'd imagine brexit related.

@lukazupie7220

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheConorkelly no they got cheap factory.. u are anti brexit correct? A bit biased? 🤔 😝

@tonyjames5444

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukazupie7220 Brexit was about supporting Britain and British jobs, ironic that Billionaire Brexitier Sir Jim Ratcliffe chose to build a “British” 4x4 inspired by the Land Rover Defender in France, rather than Bridgend in Wales.

@sherpafan033

2 жыл бұрын

@Conor nope, it was due to the fact that around the time Ineos were looking for a factory, Mercedes were looking for a buyer for their smart car factory in France. Brexit has nothing to do with it.

@tonyjames5444

2 жыл бұрын

@@sherpafan033 I'd love to see you stand up in a pub in Bridgend, Wales and say that, (no chance of that even if you could). Stating the obvious aside though Radcliffe very publicly backed Brexit and said the country would thrive outside of the EU, how does pulling the plug on the Bridgend investment fit into that narrative? It's not as if he couldn't afford to take a small hit in support of British workers but nothing stands in the way of profits for people like him, a Monaco listed resident saving 4 billion in tax payments. Also conveniently he won't be hit by customs costs & paperwork due to importing components to a British factory, also the massive shortage of HGV drivers wont bother him either, happy days. ps have you got you British blue passport manufactured in Poland by a Franco/Dutch company yet??? (ending the chat now as you can't reason with 'doff your cap & tug your forlock types:)

GREAT!!! It looks FANTASTIC. I will Buy one. Greetings from Cabo Verde Islands. Cheers

Well, I love it. It's more the old beloved Defender, then the new one. I'm not sure I could afford one, but if, I would buy it. Well done to ones who made this possible.

Nice looking rig...can't wait for the off road testing!!

@kloschuessel773

2 жыл бұрын

Should be good They also been doing it for a long time while the design wasn’t even finished.

I absolutely love it, maybe in 20 years or so I will be able to afford one.

@jeremijakrstic1968

2 жыл бұрын

In 20 years... If there's still a place to buy petrol/diesel from, for a reasonable price. Apart from that, I kind of understand Toyota's gamble with hydrogen engines. The enthusiasm surrounding electric vehicles might be premature. It's a shame that European manufacturers fall for electrification of the automotive industry like they fell for screens and overloading their products with touch-shit. I wish all the best to the Ineos team and hope they won't miss the opportunity for development.

@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270

2 жыл бұрын

In 2041 you will have trouble buying fossil fuels. The electric revolution is moving fast and this thing will look out of date before it hits the market. Tesla, Rivian, Ford, GM, Bollinger are all launching electric powered ATVs over the next year. Mr. Fracking Atkinson will have to think again about motive power.

@jamespollock9001

2 жыл бұрын

@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 the agricultural industry will keep fossil fuels going for a long long time.

@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamespollock9001 Two things on that. Firstly the process for getting the raw materials out of crude to make fertilisers is separate from the refning process to make petrol and diesel. Second thing is legislation which will regulate harder and harder again the use of fossil fuels in ground transportation until it becomes uneconomic..As an EV driver I can say the TCO for electric vehicles is a revelation which more and more a realising. Two years ago Ev sales were 3.5% of new car sales in Europe, last year 11%, this year looking close to 20%...the writing is on the wall for internal combustion. With battery energy densities at 250 Wh/kg and rising, while prices fall even heavy goods vehicles will go electric (see Tesla, Volvo, Iveco etc for details). Mid decade will see 400 Wh/kg and

@jamespollock9001

2 жыл бұрын

@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 thank you for your thoughtful response. I am all for EVs and am looking forward to having one some day. But in my part of the world in Australia as a farmer a new tractor purchased today is expected to be useful in 20 years. I think the economic cost of change over to EVs in the agricultural sector will prolong the use of fossil fuels well past 2041. But it will happen eventually and I am all for it. Just many challenges along the way.

those who dislike dont know about timeless design... this is the one design you carry all throughout the life of an individual...

First saw the ad's for it a while ago, and watched due to Vikki B-H's voice. Good to see it coming to life.