I want to apologize for not putting a strobe warning at 0:37! Completely forgot about it while editing. I'm so sorry if it caused any problems! Also, I can't believe how much this has blown up! I'm still in awe! Thank you guys so much! 😭

@itsluxihere5851

3 жыл бұрын

Pog

@ad.i

3 жыл бұрын

Holy crap fam you definitely blew up. You 100% deserve it though, best of luck for whats to come!

@GatsbysBestLife

3 жыл бұрын

Good content.

@sean-paul5080

3 жыл бұрын

Finally some that actually understand the DnD chart

@lratio674

3 жыл бұрын

He counts as lawful in only dream amp. But almost everywhere else it's 100% chaotic, Example : AN ENTIRE WAR ABOUT FARMING POTATOS. And Bullying skeppy.

He is definitely lawful. He has clear beliefs and stops at nothing, and I mean nothing, to uphold those beliefs.

@rainbowlemniscate2761

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, of course Techno has desires that he always works towards, but when it comes to "honor" and remaining consistent in how he does things, he fails utterly. He said that The Festival was strictly a reconnaissance mission and then slaughtered the entire crowd. He swore an oath of pacifism and then brought George to near death over him mentioning cows. The only modicum of consistency he displays in when advocating for personal freedom and when disrespecting authority

@TenBillionAnts

3 жыл бұрын

@@rainbowlemniscate2761 Lawful characters are still people and they still have emotions and therefore sometimes go against their personal codes or morals when in they feel particularly strong emotions such as the death of a loved one/all of their cows, and techno when he eventually calmed down didn't kill George because it was his emotions controlling his actions not his code. As for the festival, he was put into a much different situation then he was expecting so of course the plan changed to accommodate the new environment, lawful doesn't mean idiot. Also he absolutely has honor he never stabbed anyone in the back he was clear and concise in his intentions and motivations and that he would destroy any government as to prevent corruption.

@rainbowlemniscate2761

3 жыл бұрын

@@TenBillionAnts I agree, lawful characters can break their code, but it is a huge moment for their character, but Techno just violates his own rules and then goes about his business, showing that the rules didn't mean much to him in the first place. Also, being honest of your intentions doesn't make you lawful because intentions don't make a person lawful/chaotic, the methods they use to achieve these intentions do and to quote the original comment, "Techno stops at nothing, and I mean nothing, to uphold those beliefs". He doesn't let a code or rules stand between him and his goals. Also, as a disclaimer, I don't really care about this and am just interested in the debate, I see where you're coming from and respect your argument.

@diomon4257

3 жыл бұрын

you mean upload?

@user-pr4cu9tb3b

3 жыл бұрын

@@rainbowlemniscate2761 lawful characters Can relive and be emotional without breaking their code.

"Tubbo isn't willing to abandon his friends in the face of conflict" whoops

@razovic527

3 жыл бұрын

lol aged very well after (spoilers) tommy got exiled

@NerdOverlord

3 жыл бұрын

Tommy betrayed Tubbo and I am sticking to that belief

@MeriqulimStudios-MerrickRector

3 жыл бұрын

@@NerdOverlord nope, sorry, Tommy thought he was helping tubbo by standing up to dream but only made things worse for himself. then when dream got pissed and said he needed to be exiled in three days, literally everyone besides tubbo was looking for a non-exile solution, and TUBBO AGREED. then at the last second, tubbo went back and exiled Tommy even when he just told him seconds ago that he wouldn't. maybe tubbo just wanted to to what was right for l'manburg, but he still betrayed Tommy even if he didn't mean for it to turn out like this.

@madi7178

3 жыл бұрын

Do y’all not see Dream pulling the strings (not in a writing way in a canon character way) when it comes to Tommy and Tubbo’s relationship?

@hrgrhrhhr

3 жыл бұрын

@@madi7178 I absolutely do, and if anything, I think Tubbo was right to exile Tommy, I just thought it was worth pointing out.

The man himself said " I would never betray... my personal ideals," when asked if he was the traitor. How much more Lawful Neutral can you get? Lol great vid btw

@riblix4744

3 жыл бұрын

That would be Chaotic Neutral or, Neutral. Lawful Neutral would be respecting the rule of law no matter what. Lawful Good respecting just law and Lawful Evil following the law in malicious way. He is chaotic.

@bongocat5260

3 жыл бұрын

@@riblix4744 No, lawful is following a set of laws, not specifically government laws.

@riblix4744

3 жыл бұрын

@@bongocat5260 It doesn't change the fact that Techno doesn't follow any set of laws. He may have overarching objective, but he doesn't limit himself with any rule. He is Chaotic Neutral, he doesn't follow any set of law.

@toincoin

3 жыл бұрын

@@riblix4744 Hi! I'm in the mood for friendly discourse and I wanted to see if I was actually right on this so I did a little extra research. Sources agree that a Lawful Neutral character is loyal to a set of rules that could be either the letter of the law or their personal code. In this case you could argue that Techno is loyal to the laws of anarchy as well as his personal beliefs. Chaotic alignments tend to be more flexible and subject to their whims, but Techno's motivations have been very consistent. It may have seemed chaotic to summon two withers against his former allies, but he did it because they had used him in a way that went against his personal beliefs. He fought alongside them to overthrow a government, but when they set up a new one in its place they effectively betrayed him and what he stood for. Again, this is just friendly discourse! I don't want to start an argument over Minecraft RP lol (if you want to check my sources, I just googled "lawful neutral alignment" and read the top five results lol)

@FaelornV

3 жыл бұрын

@@riblix4744 as the person above me stated. Lawful does not mean they’re following a governments law. A common example in DND for a lawful character is a devil. They always follow their own set of rules and uphold their beliefs. Even if they sometimes will twist them. An example of a chaotic character is a demon just pure destruction and chaos with no though and is completely unreasonable. So based off those two examples I’d say yes, Technoblade is a lawful character.

He’s lawful, but follows only his own laws.

@Nebulister

3 жыл бұрын

and there are no laws. besides ofc destroy the government

@galacticecho-wolf9716

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nebulister Don't forget treat people how they treat him x1000000000000000

@user-kx8pu6ys5i

3 жыл бұрын

@@galacticecho-wolf9716 yes

@randjan8592

3 жыл бұрын

there are a few laws, but most important ones are: 1. SUBSCRIBE TO TECHNOBLADE 2. OBLITERATE ORPHANS

@agenti4734

3 жыл бұрын

True

In summary: Technoblade is Chaotically Lawful.

@corn4618

3 жыл бұрын

@@Adam22662 he fits the Lawful Side Better, but Saying that he doesnt have a bit of Chaos is a Bit of a Lie

@junconglin

3 жыл бұрын

he's personal law that of is chaos so damn lawful by dnd definition but damn chaotic in the form of small smooth brain definition

@nunsense9489

3 жыл бұрын

Lawful Neutral i say

@InZaynReality

3 жыл бұрын

@@nunsense9489 technoblade only believes he is chaotic but he is lawfully neutral

@Shaabun

3 жыл бұрын

@@Adam22662 it's a joke. That class doesn't even exist. They're just saying that he is chaotic while following his laws.

Also Technoblade: tricks Skeppy into doing a puzzle aimed at himself.

@samt3412

3 жыл бұрын

Since it wasn't streamed and made into a YT video, that's more of an out-of-character scene than anything. Technoblade is in his regular video style, compared to the character he regularly plays on the SMP.

@AnimadisticaOrKontinakaro

3 жыл бұрын

@@samt3412 Apart from the "made into a YT video" part, makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up!

@AnimadisticaOrKontinakaro

3 жыл бұрын

@Red Matter and that beating up helpless animals the only to get anything done.

@symawi312

3 жыл бұрын

how is that against the code of anti-government he's playing?

@kxnrad7

3 жыл бұрын

That was non-canon

He's smart, he coordinate his attack perfectly, he even gives up the most obvious hint of attacking when he's talking to someone.

@DecisionsRQuestionable

3 жыл бұрын

Thats why he wins every war

@adlirez

2 жыл бұрын

“Let your plans be as dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.” - Sun Tzu, The Art of War

When I first saw the title of this video, I was under the impression that Techno was a Chaotic Neutral character, as he is neutral, doesn't like government (laws), and occasionally shouts "Chaos!" among other catchphrases such as "Death!" and "Blood for the Blood God!". However, I listen with an open mind, and you did phenomenal. You presented the question, answered it, and then gave amazing evidence and reasoning as to why you were correct, without putting down other opinions. I have changed my mind and now agree with you, as you have convinced me that my first assumption was less then accurate, to say the least. I realized I was ignorant of key information to make the choice on this matter, and I decided to reevaluate my viewpoint after receiving new input. Now if only people like flat-earthers or anti-vaxxers could apply the same logic, we would have a much easier time. I think your video was really cool! Good luck with the KZread channel!

@goldencloud7527

3 жыл бұрын

im anti-vax and you should be too as vaccines are the leading cause of adulthood

@SpeedyCheetahCub

3 жыл бұрын

@@goldencloud7527 It's true that adults are partially caused by vaccines, however in my opinion being an adult is better than being dead, as long as you think rationally. Also, I love it when people say what you just wrote in your comment, because it always makes me burst out laughing. :D

@meowcat280

3 жыл бұрын

@@goldencloud7527 oh my God they are?!

I didn’t even know that alignment chart existed XD but I gotta say you do have a very good point.

@xena.lem0n

3 жыл бұрын

It's from DND I think

@drumsoundslikej672

3 жыл бұрын

Dungeons and dragons babey :)

@toastedjam1470

3 жыл бұрын

Look up dnd alignment chart toilet paper memes lol

@JollyRodger2667

3 жыл бұрын

Ye, dnd has a lot to do with allignment charts my g

@secretlyditto7716

3 жыл бұрын

DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS!!! It’s my life ngl~

So technoblade is lawful to his allies and strong personal convictions even “betraying everyone” because he went with his ideology after winning but is chaotic in means and general predictability hopping from objective to objective

@Maxi25554

3 жыл бұрын

He's lawful in alignment but chaotic in beliefs.

@ethanscott4912

3 жыл бұрын

@@Maxi25554 that makes sense

@kelmirosue3251

3 жыл бұрын

Makes sense

@thanhhoang7335

3 жыл бұрын

@@Maxi25554 huh, i thought it was the other way around. Lawful in alignment? He literally killed all of his former allies when they set a new government. Chaotic in beliefs? He has always followed his own set of rules and ideology, like remaining an anarchist, even if it means he would have to go against his former allies

@mrbypass1872

3 жыл бұрын

@AC _6942 exactly

"as man seeks justice in equality, so society seeks order in anarchy" - Proudhon

100% lawful. i know why some people think he’s chaotic cause, “BLOOOD” but, he’s literally the definition of a lawful character • he has a clear cut set of ideals and beliefs • he sticks by them no matter what • he knows what he wants you nailed it when you said how they’d be willing to even abandon close friends to stick to their personal code

@gooddoggo2831

3 жыл бұрын

Being chaotic doesn’t mean you don’t have beliefs it just means you don’t have laws limiting your actions achieving those said beliefs

@James-nr2hi

3 жыл бұрын

@@gooddoggo2831 yes but a chaotic character would abandon those beliefs the second it gets in the way of their goals.

@James-nr2hi

3 жыл бұрын

@@gooddoggo2831 no a chaotic character only focuses on themselves, their greed, their desires. They can have beliefs but that comes second.

@James-nr2hi

3 жыл бұрын

@@gooddoggo2831 Nothing you said proves your point at all. First Tommy literally betrays literally everyone over and over and over again. His belief that he should always stick by his friends comes second to getting what he wants. He gave up the disks because 1. HE wanted L'manburg. 2. Because of that "good." Part of his character. But if you pay attention Tommy betrayed literally everyone and sided with technoblade if it meant he got his disks back. Now let's look at technoblade. Like a lawful character would he always keeps his word and will always repay a debt. Technoblade never betrays anyone before they betray him. And he was willing to give Tommy to dream if he called in that favour.

@James-nr2hi

3 жыл бұрын

@@gooddoggo2831 Well someone hasn't been paying attention. He was more then willing to give Tommy to dream if he called in the favour "Unless of course, you want to call in that favour."

"lawful" doesnt mean literal law, it means having a strict set of morals and following them.

I really enjoyed this video! It was very well made and you presented evidence and facts very well. Thank you for this :)

@ariana8923

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed :)

@JackChop

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed :)

@squigga6933

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed :)

@silantx

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed :)

@12magner05

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed :) very well put together, and enjoyable to watch!

"Is technoblade chaotic or lawful?" Yes

@violetcamaluna

3 жыл бұрын

AY am le 69th like XD

See this is the reason why I in techno side in the first instead of Tommy or dream. The war only could be stop by the neutral side

btw u should analize another character and uploads more this vid is insane

@Yolbert

3 жыл бұрын

btw u should make it like 8 minute well there is like 100k minute watch time befiore it isnt it? well if u cntinue with this thing i mean this theme ull be good

@blease-end-me

3 жыл бұрын

eyy 69th like nice haha

@marchosiasduh

3 жыл бұрын

Ahem, analize is spelled analyze ahem

@onellux1999

3 жыл бұрын

@@marchosiasduh ahem english isnt everyones first language so you dont have to sound so rude ahem

@pringlesbleach9895

3 жыл бұрын

@@onellux1999 they weren’t being rude lmao

As someone who plays d&d, I can confirm that this is accurate.

@sirbooper

3 жыл бұрын

how do you play d&d? it seems really cool but my brain can't really wrap around how it works ._.

@kaysanr

3 жыл бұрын

@@sirbooper for me the first thing you need to actually play D&D is a good dungeon master, without a good one the stories. roleplaying, and game itself is going to be boring. So if you want to play, find an experienced DM first

@sirbooper

3 жыл бұрын

ooooo that's interesting I shall thanks :)

“Anarchy is pog” -Sun Tzu, The Art Of War.

It seems like people just don’t ever understand alignments. Good through evil are really just selfless to selfish to sadistic, and lawful through chaotic have nothing to do with your actions, but just the reason behind your action. An anarchist is lawful if he only acts anarchistic, even if his actions appear chaotic. Lawful through chaotic is just follows rules to does whatever.

Great work and for dnd nerd like my it is hearth warming to see someone understand aligmet schart

@CrystalLily1302

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah everyone who calls techno chaotic either completely misunderstands techno's character or completely misunderstands what the lawful-chaotic axis is. Though to be fair, I don't think all of my players understand the lawful-chaotic axis so I'm not sure I can really blame non-DnD players for not getting it.

@OwenOfElliott

3 жыл бұрын

@@CrystalLily1302 in truth, nobody understands the alignment chart

@CrystalLily1302

3 жыл бұрын

@@OwenOfElliott If that ain't the truth

@toastedjam1470

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah techno is an anarcomonarchist all the way

@kelmirosue3251

3 жыл бұрын

@@OwenOfElliott I'd like to disagree. There's one person who made a website dedicated to the alignments themselves and most likely has done A LOT of research into it giving how in depth it is

Good video, fairly well presented, but please don't have a strobe without fair warning. Even a short one, without super-bright colors, can cause problems.

@Nostromal

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for pointing this out! It completely slipped my mind while editing. I'm so sorry!

@silverseergriclav

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nostromal Thankfully I'm not super sensitive or anything, so it just hurt my eyes. No harm done. :)

Techno has always stuck to his ideals and promises. He is everything lawful neutral stands for.

techno is my favourite smp member, he managed to make his KZread chat canon to the story, and executed someone at his own execution, this man (or pig) is the maddest of lads

I feel EXTREME satisfaction that i was the 69th subscriber

@Nostromal

3 жыл бұрын

Congratulations! And thank you! Pet reveal soon!

@StarryxNight5

3 жыл бұрын

nice

@rceps4999

3 жыл бұрын

@Ray well 3k now

@Sandthesand

3 жыл бұрын

@@StarryxNight5 that pfp... P E. E S A U N A

@WitherGirlGaming

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nostromal nearly 6.9k now lol

may the algorithm be with you

@AinsleySunny

2 жыл бұрын

Yessir

Is Technoblade a LAWFUL or CHAOTIC Character? Me: Yes

"I'm new to this whole KZread thing" THEN HOW IS THIS VIDEO SO GOOD???

:o i like the editing!! using minecraft music and font makes me go :)

The funniest thing is, when I looked at it from the SMP setup, and from the thumbnail alone, I realized 'It would make sense that he's Lawful..' because I've *played* D&D characters that, while not Anarchists like he is, would *be* surprisingly like him. You earned a sub, you earned a like, and I look forward to you analyzing the rest of the Dream SMP, from the 'Older Cast', such as Dream and Georgenotfound, to the new characters like Captain Puffy (she sounds adorable), and Ranboo. Honestly, these lot have all gotten up to *quite* a bit, and seeing more and more animatics about such big events.. To new events popping up, such as Tommy being in Exile because of him and Dream, to now Captain Puffy and Badboyhalo being.. I think corrupted by some giant red egg. I seriously need a life if this somehow is the most entertaining thing that has ever come about..

I feel like I should bring up that in the D&D community there's long been a push to abolish alignment for the stated reason that actual characters don't fit into 9 little boxes. My largest objection to this alignment chart is Wilbur as NE and dream as CE. Wilbur blew up L'manberg for the sake of it, causing harm without reason, intentionally severing all bonds and encouraging any evil he came across (evilbur of course). That's a pretty blatant CE. Dream on the other hand has always had the single minded motivation of antagonizing Tommy. Dream makes allies when necessary, backs off when necessary but will to whatever it takes to steal Tommy's most prized possessions, his single mindedness is what keeps him from CE as much as he talks about "being on the side of chaos" pretty clearly NE

@owl2944

3 жыл бұрын

yeah agreed, as a very avid D&D player. it's hard to say techno is entirely lawful when he literally killed everyone for the sheer hell of it during the festival as well. he's defo morally grey/ ambiguous.

@OwenOfElliott

3 жыл бұрын

@@owl2944 if it weren't for cannon technochat I'd call him lawful evil, using his principles to justify violence

Leaving a comment for the algorithm! This is such a well-done analysis, definitely clarified some confusion for me and hopefully for others too :)

I came here to say one thing: *Yesn’t.*

This was a fantastic break down of Techno's character! You explained everything clearly, and it all made sense. Your voice actually fits well with this it's very soothing and I actually learned a few things. I also liked the way you broke it down and edited the video, the minecraft music was just *chef's kiss*

SMPEarth Techno would probably be the Chaotic one

@CaneyCreekQuidditch

3 жыл бұрын

Fun fact, SMP Earth is actually canon for Dream SMP. It's part of Phil's backstory

Great video, you actually changed my mind. This was super well done! Hopefully the KZread analytic gods see your content

I didn't even knew what does lawful and chaotic means until now-

@ethanotoroculus1060

3 жыл бұрын

Other noteworthy aspects of Law vs Chaos include their organization and lifestyle. Lawful characters tend to be stricter and more organized, rarely deviating from whatever path they choose for themselves whereas chaotic characters tend to adopt more haphazard and spontaneous mannerisms, almost never forming any long-term plans nor codes of conduct.

@OwenOfElliott

3 жыл бұрын

I'm about to contradict the person above me but: the alignment chart isn't a personality test, it's an incredibly dumbed down organisation of a person's values. Quite simply the lawful-chaotic axis is how loyal somebody is to principles, whether their own or somebody else's, lawful people will almost always stick to them, neutral people will disaobey them when try necessary and chaotic people will usually ignore them

Me: sees dream statistic Statistic: Chaotic Evil Also me: VERY TRUE

i think i’m in love with this video, i love character breakdowns and i love techno’s character so much. this was also a really well structured video, it was written so well and very eloquently!! plus you used my favorite minecraft song in the background, ive watched this a total of 4 times now

At first I was in the chaotic side of the argument but you changed my mind

saw this in my recommended, prepare to have this vid blown up

In my opinion he’s lawful good for 2 reasons 1. Every “crime” he’s ever committed has been an act of revenge or a way to avoid needing revenge in the future. 2. He’s never actually betrayed anyone first he will abandon those who’ve abandoned him rather than try to redeem a friendship but that dose not mean betrayal that means acceptance he follows the ideals he believes but at no point hides them from his ally’s.

This is a really good look into it, really interesting to watch and you made some great points! I fully agree that Techno is a lawful neutral boi, and I just absolutely love his character

Wonderfully done! I hope you grow more and continue what you're doing!

Came here from reddit. leaving a like and a comment

people arguing if Techno is lawful or chaotic: me who recently saw thread on reddit about "new alignment": why not both? #LawfulChaoticTechno

@dienmy6531

3 жыл бұрын

yeah why not both

@kyna6600

3 жыл бұрын

lawfully chaotic

@CloutmasterPhluphyy

3 жыл бұрын

That just sounds like neutral with extra steps

@dox7681

3 жыл бұрын

There is an alignment for that, it's called true neutral

You summed up my thoughts on the matter exactly!! And hell yes, im also super intrigued by Techno's character and coming arc on the smp. Vids on some of the other character's alignments would be so cool to see too, but either way you gained a sub!

fun fact: technblade is one of the main writers for season 2 so expect some lawful actions from him in the near future

@robinyourhouse3399

3 жыл бұрын

He is THE main writer if I’m correct

@elohim447

3 жыл бұрын

“Welcome home Theseus”

@gooddoggo2831

3 жыл бұрын

I think he’s chaotic because he has his own i ideals but that just means he has beliefs the chaotic part is how he achieves those goals and as we see techno will slaughter to achieve his goals. techno said “the ends justifies the means” so for me and my definition of chaotic he’s chaotic

I honestly thought he would have been chaotic before I watched this video. After watching, I fully agree that Techno is more lawful than chaotic.

Techno: the only law full charater Everyone else: chaotic

very well put!! even as a big dnd fan i can find it really hard to distinguish some alignments when it comes to character motivation but you put it into words wonderfully!!

THIS SHOULD REALLY GET INTO PEOPLE'S RECOMMENDEDS 10/10 good vid (:

This was surprisingly excellent and satisfying to watch, and you have a voice that is nice to listen to. You don't see a lot of women doing voiceovers so pls do keep making content!

very good vid! it was nice to hear an analysis of the blade!

I really like at the end where you make it clear that characters, and people especially, dont tend to fit perfectly within one axis or catagory perfectly or in the same way as others who fit into a similar or the same axis. Instead its much more like the Political Compass where it is an introductory generalization of someone to start from, where you can get more specific and down to earth to how they really are from there. Or in characters used for the beginning phases of a character creation like in D&D. People need to differentiate easy and vague generalizations from the actual reality of who someone is and why they are, in order to gain better, deeper understanding of other people, not just relying on streotypes, generalizations, personas, etc. This especially goes for streamers and youtuber who have lives and many different sides of who they are outside of what they show online.

pet reveal soon pog

I was honestly surprised when I saw this video. I've always thought of Technoblade as a lawful character and never thought otherwise. Were you under 69 subs only a week ago? That's incredible! I couldn't hope to develop that fast.

This was very good, very high quality, nice one!

I'll drop a sub to watch your progress. The logical breakdown and considerations taken here were very true to intent, which is hard to find. I'm really hoping you make more videos like this, because I could definitely enjoy them. I agree that he's more lawful than chaotic, but some points to bring up is that while he followed a code of law he put on himself, he was very clearly considering freedom of individuals to be a very important part, and his personal freedoms were very largely a part of his thought process, as can be seen during his speeches. This isn't enough to shift him toward the chaotic end of the spectrum, but it is worth noting for true acknowledgement of the character and analysis of where that spectrum sits. It will be interesting to see how his philosophies carry going forward.

I actually really enjoyed this Here take a sub!

*Counter Argument: He's neither.* 1) Techno follows a specific ideal- not necessarily a code. His main goal is to stop the government but it's just that- a goal. A chaotic character may still have a similar "main goal" like this, which drives their actions most of the time. It doesn't necessarily mean they're lawful, just that they're heavily motivated and that their actions and identity are heavily linked to one main goal. Basically, his "lawfulness" isn't attributed to a _code_ , rather a driving desire to destroy the government. 1.5) In addition to this, chaotic characters can have lines- things they will do, things they won't do, etc. The best example of this is a chaotic character who doesn't kill or murder. They'll injure people, they'll commit arson and torture and terrify, but they wont commit murder themselves. Just because someone has hard rules / limits / desires doesn't necessarily mean that they're lawful. 1.5.5) A lot of the arguments I see here are "Techno has a code of ethics", which is a kind of moral code or key set of values. Which I understand entirely, but it's just that- ethics. Morality. Good and Evil. Techno's motivations fit into the Good / Neutral / Evil category of the chart, not necessarily the Lawful / Neutral / Chaotic part, which dictates how the characters achieve their goals. 1.5.5.5) I'm gonna get a lot of people arguing with this one, but hear me out. Lawful characters should follow a set of laws imposed by a group or by society. Be that the Hunter Code for a morally gray ranger, a Deity's code for a cleric, or even just the laws of society. _Everyone_ has things they will or will not do. That just comes with being human. People won't do things they think are morally wrong except for extenuating circumstances. Therefore once we've established that Lawful characters specifically follow an external set of rules as opposed to an internal one, we can see that Techno is very much Not Lawful. 2) This being said, he doesn't exactly fit the bill for chaotic either. Chaotic characters are more likely to achieve their goals _while_ creating chaos, or achieve their goals in an atypical way in order to create more chaos. As mentioned in the video, Techno doesn't always seem to do things for the sake of the chaos, more so chaos is a result of his actions. 3) Resulting chaos should also be factored somewhere into the chaotic argument though; while it can be argued that Techno's main goal isn't chaos, that doesn't mean he doesn't often intend for chaos to occur, and knowingly and happily cause chaos regularly. 4) This is where things get tricky: defining what the alignment chart means. Because while the _book_ gives a lot of the abstract concepts listed in the video, it's purposely vague. But we can dive a little deeper by establishing that Good / Neutral / Evil set a character's desires and motivations, while Lawful / Neutral / Chaotic establish HOW they accomplish those goals and desires. Sticking to your beliefs and morals doesn't make you lawful. But abiding by a code that governs your actions/ how you achieve your goals even (and this is important) when it hurts you or impedes your progress on said goals? That's what makes a lawful character. 4.5) You wouldn't say that a Chaotic character regularly deviates from what they want, right? You wouldn't say that a Chaotic character hardly obeys their own set of morals, right? It's more about the methods through which they achieve their goals, not necessarily how strongly they believe in their cause or goal. 5) The abstract concepts mentioned from the PHB in the video are good definitions in general, but they get a little complicated the more and more human / ambiguous a character gets. But one really, really important thing to remember is that Neutral characters are basically supposed to be the embodiment of whatever extreme they go to. Chaotic Neutral? Their only goal is to cause chaos. Neutral Evil? Their only goal is to, well, be evil (or impede the party, but the 9 square alignment chart gets pretty tangled as you take it out of a D&D context). Lawful Neutral? Their goal is to follow their law or code, *and they place that law or code over what their own goals are, or what they believe is right / wrong.* Technoblade believes the government is wrong, and therefore any Lawful or Chaotic restrictions that you'd put on him would conflict with that main goal. *Here comes my argument: He's True Neutral.* 6) Preface this by reiterating what the original creator talked about at 5:24. People are more complicated than a nine square box. They're not going to fit perfectly, no matter what you do. That's part of why I, personally, see Techno as True Neutral. He doesn't (again, in my opinion) fit into any of the other categories enough to qualify placing him there. 7) I mostly agree with what the video said in terms of what makes him Neutral in terms of good/bad, but disagree with the statement that Neutral characters will fluctuate between Good and Evil (I talked about it a little bit above, but I can't go into it too much because of space). 8) Neutral in terms of Lawful / Neutral / Chaotic is typically defined as following the character's "law" (or code, whichever is applicable) until it impedes them from their goals, in which they switch to more chaotic methods (or methods that break whatever law is imposed upon them). With this definition in mind, it seems that Techno is very True Neutral: for the most part following the law (again, a term which I use liberally) until it's not helpful to him or actively gets between him and his goal. 9) True Neutral's whole thing is that whatever the True Neutral character deems important is what is the Most Important, and they'll try and achieve that goal through whatever means necessary. In this case, Techno's goals are (probably) 1. Destroying the government and 2. Protecting Phil. They don't care about _anything_ else that strongly, just that their goals are accomplished and that they / the people they care about are safe / happy. *In Conclusion* I can totally see either side of the argument, but to me Techno seems more True Neutral than Lawful Neutral or Chaotic Neutral.

@OwenOfElliott

3 жыл бұрын

I'd argue that you're raising the bar too high, true neutral isn't the "none of the above" option, that's unaligned (though tends to be reserved for creatures too stupid for morals) it's not just that techno has rules, it's that he's funded and destroyed the same revolution just to stick to his principle. Tbh I'd argue that he's lawful evil, using his principle to do the evil, though there introduction of technocrat as cannon muddies that a bit. And I absoloutely disagree that lawfulness must be imposed externally, we all have things we don't *want* to do but a lot of people are willing to compromise with it, lawful people not among them.

@augurly

3 жыл бұрын

@@OwenOfElliott I totally get what you mean about the true neutral being "none of the above", I just kinda feel like it's more ambiguous than lawful / chaotic (in the sense that Techno's too chaotic for a lawful character and too lawful for a chaotic character). Again, my interpretation of Techno's character only really fits if you view alignment as Good/ Neutral/ Evil for motive and Lawful/ Neutral/ Chaotic for method, which is how I usually interpret the alignment chart. That was my argument for most of 1 through 5- that Techno's "rule" isn't actually a rule or a code, it's just "I believe that government is wrong, and therefore want to destroy any forms of it I come across". It'd be the same thing if a character was like "I don't like cats, so I'm gonna attribute my entire life to killing cats". Just because they stay true to an end goal, and put that goal above everything else, doesn't necessarily mean that they're lawful. In regards to your Lawful Evil thing, I can kinda see where you get that? Mostly I just think it's hard to categorize Evil outside of D&D, and that it's mostly just who we view in opposition to the protagonist (and it's hard to determine who is the protagonist in a media with a lot of really well developed characters and points of view). Anyway, thanks for the response!

@OwenOfElliott

3 жыл бұрын

@@augurly I tend to see good/evil as how much they care about morality and lawful/chaotic as how much they care about prestablished rules/principles. The reason I think technoblade is lawful evil is because he's done multiple massacres without really looking for a less murderous alternative. Dream SMP works on video game logic of little consequences so it's a bit difficult to tell, not to mention technochat. Killing cats isn't really a principle as much as a desire, if that's the whole of the character, CN. I will say my definition gets shaky with both evil characters and that most people who act on principles do it because they think it's right.

@sophiasimmons9613

3 жыл бұрын

I dont agree with everything in this argument but it is well thought out, interesting, logical, and I appreciate it very much.

Nice video! I agree with your points, and this is rather well made. Subscribed.

Ngl i enjoy this....i hope you make a video base explaining each character

Everyone talkin about how Technoblade betrayed Tommy, when really, Tommy betrayed Technoblade

@Nebulister

3 жыл бұрын

THAT IS WHAT I WAS SAYING! EVERYONE BETRAYED TECHNO they used him just to take the place of Schlatt to themselves.

Dream just doesn't act on impulse, he manipulates this server, he knows every impact of every actions

@captainfiri7619

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly! I was just about to comment on that. He is definetly evil, but there's no way in hell he's chaotic. He is a puppeteer, a tyrant, he calculates every move and manipulates each and every character on the server to get what he wants. It's either Lawful, or Neutral Evil. I like latter one more, because personally, I've never seen him following some strict set of rules. Though, this may very well be just my problem and there always was "The Moral Code of Dream trademark" that I missed somehow. And also this guy seems to follow his promises quite well, so, it's up to debate whether he's Lawful or Neutral. But I just don't see him as Chaotic at all.

@user-yw3ic8qc1h

3 жыл бұрын

@@captainfiri7619 he actually follows one rule: everything is dream smp

@captainfiri7619

3 жыл бұрын

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@user-yw3ic8qc1h

3 жыл бұрын

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@captainfiri7619

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-yw3ic8qc1h I truly am not.

You did a great job! I hope this channel grows

I just wanna say you did an amazing job on this vid!

"69" has 2k already

@danielbeauchot1217

3 жыл бұрын

Yea they got alot of subs cause this was recommended to alot of people

Do one for Tommy and Dream! THIS WAS AMAZINGGG

Good video!! Well edited and a very interesting commentary

Please do the others.. this is so interesting to watch. Thank you. :)

"Alignment comes from the roleplaying game Dungeons and Dragons." Me, a Town of Salem player: 0 - 0

@Aquahouse_

3 жыл бұрын

Alignment in TOS is a bit different than D&D

@owl2944

3 жыл бұрын

bruh tos is from 2014, d&d has been around since the 70s

y’all realize “chaotic” does not mean “random”??? a chaotic character is one who does not believe in the rule of law. someone who thinks society is better off without rulers, without supervision, without hierarchy. technoblade is exactly that. he literally believes in chaos as a guiding principle.

@gooddoggo2831

3 жыл бұрын

No what they mean is that techno follows there own personal laws while I do think he is chaotic I think that because technoblade doesn’t care about his actions he only cares if it achieves what he wants. chaotic to me feels like you don’t have any rules to achieving your goals

@Hazel-xl8in

3 жыл бұрын

@@gooddoggo2831 i think not caring about methods is usually more of a neutral thing, but it’s also all very relative. a character who wants to help people by any methods necessary should probably be considered neutral good, unless the law interacts with their methods. if the law is helpful in that regard, they will be cast as the lawful character, but if the law is prohibitive and they actively fight against it then they would be cast as the chaotic character in the story. if you don’t care about how something gets done, only that it gets done then you’re not necessarily chaotic, because if you use the law to get that done then you’re at least for the time, lawful.

@gooddoggo2831

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hazel-xl8in not caring about methods is a chaotic thing in my opinion because what else is there only doing methods the worst way possible because that’s just lawful again what I consider lawful or chaotic is how unhinged is the person achieving there goals if they have to obey there own laws there lawful if they’re laws are more like guidelines they’re neutral if they don’t have any laws there chaotic

yooo this video was SO well put together!!! well done!!!!

this needs to show up in everyone’s recommendations,, amazingly presented video with well thought out points !! also as someone who plays dnd this is very accurate :)

clearly techno is lawful chaotic, he just replaced the good-evil with another law/chaos chart

Update: not anymore

@Devilspade

Жыл бұрын

Cause he's dead?

this is a great video! I'm glad to see that someone actually made a video about this

This was very interesting and you clearly put time and effort into this so eyy you got a new sub

Awesome video. Made me rethink my views on the different characters' personalities and traits. I'd love to see another vid, maybe analyzing wilbur. Because he's an interesting character as well, and I feel like it could be debated whether or not hes Neutral Good or Neutral Evil, or Chaotic Good/Chaotic Neutral. (The reason I even include chaotic alignment is because of how he started behaving in his corruption arc. He kind of went insane, and got somewhat unpredictable. Any way, sorry for the small rant. Great video and I hope to see more of analyzations of other characters!

i really enjoyed the video, really happy there are actual channels analyzing and saying opinions instead of putting together clips from livestreams. very pog

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