Is SAM'S SHIELD Actually From the PERFECT TIMELINE? | FALCON & WINTER SOLDIER Theory

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Falcon and the Winter Soldier is about many things: wealth inequality, racial justice, villains busting out dance moves--but at its core, it's about the struggle for what the Captain America shield represents.
But remember, the shield in this series isn't necessarily Steve Rogers' original shield from First Avenger. That shield was destroyed in Avengers: Endgame. So where did this weapon come from?
We've got a theory that this shield was originally owned by other Captains America, in another timeline.
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  • @ScreenCrush
    @ScreenCrush3 жыл бұрын

    Where do you think the shield came from?

  • @adityadas4200

    @adityadas4200

    3 жыл бұрын

    IDK

  • @byrnes8024

    @byrnes8024

    3 жыл бұрын

    Amazon

  • @THEPUNISHERGEAR

    @THEPUNISHERGEAR

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your mom

  • @thesanijennings

    @thesanijennings

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well I think that when he returned the stones he took some vibranium and made a new one? Good Theory?

  • @Indyrael

    @Indyrael

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pretty good theory, I somehow feel it's just going to be another shield he got made. Fans theorys have been better than the writing for a while now ;p

  • @giannieg
    @giannieg3 жыл бұрын

    *"The Power Broker turns around in a chair, and it's a dog in a space-suit."* Somebody give this puppy a raise!

  • @rogueintellect

    @rogueintellect

    3 жыл бұрын

    A raise of at least five money!

  • @giannieg

    @giannieg

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rogueintellect That's a lot of money!

  • @radicaldreamer

    @radicaldreamer

    3 жыл бұрын

    The power Barker

  • @bsq2rd449

    @bsq2rd449

    3 жыл бұрын

    Howard the duck is the power broker.

  • @OldJerzyDevil

    @OldJerzyDevil

    3 жыл бұрын

    Get Feige on the phone! Doug wants to pitch five movie deal!

  • @dawglos7643
    @dawglos76433 жыл бұрын

    7:10. And that’s why when cap asked Sam Cap: “how’s it feel?” Sam: “like it’s someone else’s” Cap: “well... it isn’t” Cuz it really was his

  • @cameronsmith5355

    @cameronsmith5355

    3 жыл бұрын

    my god , your right.

  • @mtthwlim

    @mtthwlim

    3 жыл бұрын

    That hit me deep

  • @pranavagarwal4818

    @pranavagarwal4818

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes goddamm right

  • @tacojones5666

    @tacojones5666

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its Sam's because he earned it. Not because it belonged to an alt timeline Sam and Steve yoinked it to bring it to MCU Sam instead of letting that Sam make the decision on who it goes to.

  • @cameronsmith5355

    @cameronsmith5355

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tacojones5666 i like it

  • @kimsushiii
    @kimsushiii3 жыл бұрын

    "it feels like it belongs to someone else" "well it doesn't.."

  • @johnmcvay4403

    @johnmcvay4403

    3 жыл бұрын

    That line strengthens the theory.

  • @schanataylor2067

    @schanataylor2067

    3 жыл бұрын

    That line would make sense with this theory

  • @Charolette21

    @Charolette21

    3 жыл бұрын

    Translation: “It’s literally been yours, it’ll fit you like a glove.”

  • @andersonalbertoperezgenao5767

    @andersonalbertoperezgenao5767

    3 жыл бұрын

    dude wait, my brain about to explode it makes so MUCH SENSEEEE ˊ̱˂˃ˋ̱ I can’t do this rn

  • @mda187

    @mda187

    3 жыл бұрын

    Was about to post this as well. Totally makes this theory more likely.

  • @TheSMPStudios
    @TheSMPStudios3 жыл бұрын

    “Your theory is dumb, give me treats” is going to be my new responce to the theory trolls!!

  • @damonwalker2988

    @damonwalker2988

    3 жыл бұрын

    “ give me rent”

  • @aucarter

    @aucarter

    3 жыл бұрын

    Seconded!

  • @chivAvatar14

    @chivAvatar14

    3 жыл бұрын

    "....give me thanos."

  • @NitewolfFN

    @NitewolfFN

    3 жыл бұрын

    Look at clickbait thumbnail. He used moff gideon from mandalorian

  • @Dobbythecat123

    @Dobbythecat123

    11 ай бұрын

    Your theory is dumb, give me treats!

  • @jubjub7101
    @jubjub71013 жыл бұрын

    Even if the majority of Ryan’s theories don’t come true, they are so much fun to contemplate.

  • @CharlezMalasana

    @CharlezMalasana

    3 жыл бұрын

    This guy is low key applying to be a Marvel writer for “what if?”

  • @conorswan1086

    @conorswan1086

    3 жыл бұрын

    My only issue is that he says that Sam Wilson was CA for decades and then eventually aged out of the roll. How does that work if the current MCU Sam is quite young still ??

  • @AshishSharma-nj9gv

    @AshishSharma-nj9gv

    2 жыл бұрын

    Soooooo true

  • @xdoup1850

    @xdoup1850

    Жыл бұрын

    i found that most of his theories are quite accurate

  • @dangilbert4026
    @dangilbert40263 жыл бұрын

    Steve goes back to save Bucky, gets captured and becomes Captain Hydra

  • @vibraniumboi2199

    @vibraniumboi2199

    3 жыл бұрын

    chill

  • @HeneralVisCatholic

    @HeneralVisCatholic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Damn

  • @ReviewyCA
    @ReviewyCA3 жыл бұрын

    Doug is on to something. Think Milo and Otis, but in space, and without the horrific number of murdered cats in the waterfall scene

  • @chuchisbahena3134

    @chuchisbahena3134

    3 жыл бұрын

    bruh first time i heard about this old movie in any youtube comment 🤣

  • @_pollo

    @_pollo

    3 жыл бұрын

    An alternative dog timeline where the Power Broker is know as the Power Barker

  • @chuchisbahena3134

    @chuchisbahena3134

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@_pollo lol!!!!!!!

  • @TheFreshSoundsFlorida

    @TheFreshSoundsFlorida

    3 жыл бұрын

    I want Doug's movie in theaters like now. It's brilliant. Lol. Seriously.

  • @brutelife9177
    @brutelife91773 жыл бұрын

    I want a Chris Evans Captain America 4 movie or a Disney + series, 6 episodes where we see him return time stones

  • @mikearbo5549

    @mikearbo5549

    3 жыл бұрын

    And just seeing how this all works with him getting old and how he gets to the bench at the end of endgame. So many questions

  • @toulamaccrue9906

    @toulamaccrue9906

    3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely want Steve Rogers back. Him dying in the ice is not really a theory I would have chosen. And "Cap. being the father of Peggy's children I'm not buying into either" now with him going back and changing the timeline those children aren't around and other children are instead makes more sense. Like she married the one guy from Agent Carter instead. Yeah Back to the Future explains it much better. MCU just want to confuse and have their own original theory on time travel. Going with alternate timelines make more sense LoL

  • @thejesscen

    @thejesscen

    3 жыл бұрын

    Meanwhile, I still want to see Thanos fight the Nova Corps for the power stone lol

  • @magicoA

    @magicoA

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thejesscen that would be a great way to begin or end a Nova movie.

  • @joeboxter3635

    @joeboxter3635

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think Chris Evans has become a really good/mature actor. Did not care for his Torch. But Cap ... Whoa. As kid never was a fan of CA. But now he (and Downey's IM) are best.

  • @abarax3000
    @abarax30003 жыл бұрын

    Dude you killed it with your dog. I was laughing so hard that I began to cry. I really needed this today.

  • @annedrieck7316

    @annedrieck7316

    3 жыл бұрын

    John wick want to know his location

  • @Sakura0o2
    @Sakura0o23 жыл бұрын

    I always thought that was Steve’s shield from the perfect timeline where he saved Bucky, prevented 9-11, and so many other things. Cause he wouldn’t just remain hidden while people suffer.

  • @danh2397

    @danh2397

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is 9/11 actually ever mentioned in the MCU universe?

  • @big-bonkin-head1034

    @big-bonkin-head1034

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@danh2397 It's part of the reason the super soldier came back in the 21st century in the MCU

  • @erikrivers1927

    @erikrivers1927

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@danh2397 welp I have found my reason for going back and watching back mcu movies to see if they mention it

  • @danh2397

    @danh2397

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@big-bonkin-head1034 but when is it mentioned?

  • @generalilbis

    @generalilbis

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@danh2397 I can't recall it being specifically name-dropped, but the fact that a US military presence in Afghanistan has been both shown and referred to in the MCU multiple times seems to infer that the 9-11 attacks happened and the War on Terror was at least occurring until sometime in Phase 1. Though the remarks by John Walker and Lemar Hoskins in TFatWS about their time in Afghanistan makes it sound like it happened more recently than 15 years prior.

  • @hell5fire974
    @hell5fire9743 жыл бұрын

    Great, now I want a series about Cap living in his alternate timeline.

  • @briand5379
    @briand53793 жыл бұрын

    I love Doug's ideas. We need more Doug. I'm kind of thinking there needs to be a movie or TV show showing Steve return the stones and living his life back in the day.

  • @ScreenCrush
    @ScreenCrush3 жыл бұрын

    Stay to the end, you won't be sorry. Like this to spread the word. #BringBackCosmo

  • @wizardbuilds207

    @wizardbuilds207

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @loresebata8614

    @loresebata8614

    3 жыл бұрын

    SPOILER ALERT!!!: COSMO IS POWER BROKER

  • @Strawild

    @Strawild

    3 жыл бұрын

    So many good doggies to make good movies about

  • @kristenronk6273

    @kristenronk6273

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would definitely watch that movie.

  • @welcometogeektown

    @welcometogeektown

    3 жыл бұрын

    You forgot about Lockjaw. He's also a good dog in the MCU (sort of).

  • @zrksyd
    @zrksyd3 жыл бұрын

    Video reminds me how much I want a third season for Agent Carter

  • @ryderreptile

    @ryderreptile

    3 жыл бұрын

    I watched it recently with my brother and it was so good. We finished season 2 and then we where like “cool we can start season 3” but then we were disappointed to it not even existing lol.

  • @trx4957

    @trx4957

    3 жыл бұрын

    Who doesn’t?

  • @jacksonbrazill1454

    @jacksonbrazill1454

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agents of Shield season 7 somewhat ends the story. But it really only focuses on Souso.

  • @ryderreptile

    @ryderreptile

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jacksonbrazill1454 where can I even watch agents of shield. I can’t find it anywhere

  • @1Natrium1

    @1Natrium1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ryderreptile you can watch it on Disney+ Hotstar

  • @emilxert
    @emilxert3 жыл бұрын

    Did you see the red color on the new shield? Do you know who is also of color red? MEPHISTO!

  • @SMONT85

    @SMONT85

    3 жыл бұрын

    Damn that’s insane you have such a massive brain

  • @stevenandrewchua542

    @stevenandrewchua542

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey this isn’t New Rockstars!

  • @emilxert

    @emilxert

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SMONT85 big brain time

  • @user-mh6dc2ok4h

    @user-mh6dc2ok4h

    3 жыл бұрын

    and color blue? WINTER MEPHISTO

  • @stevenandrewchua542

    @stevenandrewchua542

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user-mh6dc2ok4h and white? ELDER MEPHISTO

  • @rexone9564
    @rexone95643 жыл бұрын

    That’s waaaaaaaaaasaaaaay more complicated than, Steve just retires and lives his best life with Peggy.

  • @tacojones5666

    @tacojones5666

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know right. Steve knows that its going all go to crap, but they're going to win and trillions and trillions and bagillions of lives will be saved.

  • @annedrieck7316

    @annedrieck7316

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tacojones5666 steve already relief of his duty at the end of Endgame. He sacrificed so much for the benefit of mankind and the world still treat him like shit ever since the civil war incident. It is time he thinks of the dream that he misses thanks to serving for the sake of world peace. He saw the horror if he kept with the old ways through the sacrifice of natasha romanov aka black widow. He has had enough with having to save everyone only to see everyone around him died and suffered. He threw away his ideal of "I could do this all day". In the end he realize he couldnt back when he fought with his younger self. He even tries to take a more stealth aproach to complete the mission instead gunblazing his way like he used too. He was jaded, seen too much and tired to go on like this. He knew if continue he will share the same fates as black widow.

  • @JD-ym8bh
    @JD-ym8bh3 жыл бұрын

    Another supporting scene is when Sam is given the shield from Cap’t, Steve asks “How does it feel?” and Sam says, “Like it’s someone else’s” and Capt says, “It’s not.” Capt isn’t lying because it’s actually Sam’s shield! Boom! Show me some love!!!!

  • @MrShounenMaster

    @MrShounenMaster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Like Sam's shield from the past or the present? Was it not Bucky's? Oh god I can't sleep anymore thinking about this

  • @xinlu2806
    @xinlu28063 жыл бұрын

    Now I want a show about what cap was up to in that other timeline. But I’m afraid we’ll never get that :(

  • @-sirfrenzy-1781

    @-sirfrenzy-1781

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hope so too. “Captain America: The Man out of Time”

  • @ItsMeSuper

    @ItsMeSuper

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly, like someone said once; Make it a short series with 6 episodes relating to each Infinity Stone and make them around 45-50 min long. I would love to see it as well.

  • @LiaBluBootsiii

    @LiaBluBootsiii

    3 жыл бұрын

    We might do in what if!

  • @xinlu2806

    @xinlu2806

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ItsMeSuper Nah I care less about the stones but more about the stuff that was discussed in this video, like where did he get that shield from an how did he go back into the main timeline to give it to sam.

  • @johnmcvay4403

    @johnmcvay4403

    3 жыл бұрын

    It would be decades of adventures so you'll never get that.

  • @ignaciorodriguez5636
    @ignaciorodriguez56363 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad someone talks about this. Great video! I think T'Chaka would also be part of the new Timeline Avengers

  • @-sirfrenzy-1781

    @-sirfrenzy-1781

    3 жыл бұрын

    Howard Stark as Iron Man. He’d wear a suit like Steve wears in the “What If” show.

  • @NS-YT1
    @NS-YT13 жыл бұрын

    This was great, especially the mid-credit scene with Doug. Doug really needs WAY more Screen Crush screen time (with dialogue!) or else he needs his own KZread Channel! Come on Ryan! Support your best friend’s career!

  • @MrGanjie
    @MrGanjie3 жыл бұрын

    I can roll with all the branch timeline stuff except for bucky knowing it being Sam's shield theoretically

  • @cameronsmith5355
    @cameronsmith53553 жыл бұрын

    6:35 if Bucky told Steve about hydras plans to stop the he would be going ageist his own rules. "every time someone trys to win a war before it starts innocent people die every time."

  • @namegoeshere5220

    @namegoeshere5220

    3 жыл бұрын

    This. Was a a huge deal to Steve.

  • @JonO387
    @JonO3873 жыл бұрын

    I like how the shield will stick into a tree but will bounce off of pillows taped to the tree.

  • @omechron

    @omechron

    3 жыл бұрын

    My theory is it's not just the padding. When you're throwing the shield, you control whether it sticks or bounces with subtle shifts in the angle. After all, your dome is a lot less durable than a tree, and Cap is able to bounce his shield off of fools rather than exploding their heads.

  • @wheatgrowssweet
    @wheatgrowssweet3 жыл бұрын

    What if Steve founds the Time Variance Authority while he is traveling back in time?

  • @JTMont21
    @JTMont213 жыл бұрын

    I think it's more simple than this. Cap returned the stones and when he got to "the ancient one" she used the time stone to look at all the possible outcomes and she transports him back in time to the original timeline. He changes his name to Jack Monroe and becomes the "Nomad" from the comics.

  • @mtthwlim

    @mtthwlim

    3 жыл бұрын

    She can't see past her death tho

  • @tacojones5666

    @tacojones5666

    3 жыл бұрын

    How is that more simple than Steve just retiring. He knows the troubles that what would happen over the next 70+ years, but in the end they win. He's not trading lives. If he saves or changes anything, Thanos wins.

  • @JTMont21

    @JTMont21

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree with him just retiring. I didn't necessarily mean for more movies. I just meant that he could have a place in the main timeline behind the scenes. With a change of identity. If he wanted to do a cameo in other films, set in the past, then he could. Like a wolverine or x men movie in the past. Or chris evans could come back if he wanted to.

  • @kellys6456
    @kellys64563 жыл бұрын

    or occam's razor - there are two shields. the original (which was frozen with Steve) which he left with Tony in Civil War. This one has the accents around the star. Then there is a second one (Tony's workshop in Iron Man 2) which doesn't have accents around the star. This is the shield that Tony gives Steve in End Game which gets destroyed by Thanos. Steve then goes back in time and gets the original shield from Tony (star w/ accents) and brings it to the present and gives it to Sam.

  • @tacojones5666

    @tacojones5666

    3 жыл бұрын

    Plot twist. Steve got the new shield from THINK GEEK. Just ordered it online and got free shipping.

  • @bethfranklin5254
    @bethfranklin52543 жыл бұрын

    I am LOVING seeing more of Doug 😍. Another amazing video, thanks Ryan!

  • @demigodxv7707
    @demigodxv77073 жыл бұрын

    It is so cute that the puppy remained so calm and focused on the camera, so that Ryan can shoot and dub them perfectly!

  • @SamuelPearlman
    @SamuelPearlman3 жыл бұрын

    8:17 "Wait, I have something to say..." I was SURE his next words were going to be: "IT'S BETTER TO BURN OUT, THAN TO FADE AWAY!" a-la the Kurgen.

  • @-sirfrenzy-1781
    @-sirfrenzy-17813 жыл бұрын

    I always believed Steve had it forged in the timeline he came from where he married Peggy

  • @BrotherApexx

    @BrotherApexx

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same. It's obviously not the same shield that Steve had throughout his time in the MCU.

  • @khaliphmuhammad5866

    @khaliphmuhammad5866

    3 жыл бұрын

    Either forged it or just took it. This video is really making it harder than what it needs to be lol

  • @justingritten6183

    @justingritten6183

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BrotherApexx so then the broken shield from end game is still sitting in a drawer some where

  • @akshatsharma9740

    @akshatsharma9740

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@justingritten6183 yep!

  • @mikfly

    @mikfly

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@justingritten6183 and that’s where this theory falls apart. That shield would be at the captain America museum. Everyone holds it in such high esteem (literally the narrative of the Falcon and Winter Solider), that the damaged shield would also be on display. Why hide it? Makes no sense.

  • @jaelshepherd5150
    @jaelshepherd51503 жыл бұрын

    I would gladly pay AT LEAST five money just to keep getting more of Doug’s goodest theories!

  • @JamesJames-qo2rw
    @JamesJames-qo2rw3 жыл бұрын

    Holy cow, Doug's theory is great and wow I really felt it when he talked about the dogs sent to space that are still up there. So sad ,😥 they would have no idea what was happening and would be so scared and alone and were just left to die up there. RIP dog heroes 🙏

  • @BOABModels
    @BOABModels3 жыл бұрын

    I Laika Doug's idea! Cosmo actually plays a significant role in Lego Marvel Superheroes 2 and even speaks in a Russian accent!

  • @kavalkahn
    @kavalkahn3 жыл бұрын

    I think the writers are right, because when Steve appears as an old man he doesn't come back through the device, but to me it was implied he was sitting there all along. I think the Russo Brothers came up with the other idea just so it couldn't be much more convoluted.

  • @vibraniumboi2199

    @vibraniumboi2199

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also they might not want people to catch on u kno what im sayin

  • @danielrosales9448
    @danielrosales94483 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad I saw a video that actually address the 2 cap issue. When end game came out it one of the first things I said was if cap goes back to create a new time line it means he's replacing the cap of that branch and leaving him in the ice and stealing his girl. I do like the idea for this time line for other things tho. Cap tries to fix things and like the one comic book line, old cap is director of shield. But if hydra doesn't have a winter soldier they eventually are the ones that find frozen cap and angry having his life stolen is a lot easier to manipulate and brain wash to be the hydra cap

  • @jettpilot7
    @jettpilot73 жыл бұрын

    In the movie Spiderman Homecoming, Happy Hogan was loading the cargo jet full of Stark tech near the end of the movie. Happy was on the phone and mentioned “Caps new shield”. In the main time line, two different shields existed during the events of the End Game movie. Of course, one was destroyed by Thanos and the other was safe and sound at Stark Industries. My theory is that this second shield is the one on the Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

  • @CousinWhatIsIt
    @CousinWhatIsIt3 жыл бұрын

    I had to rewind it after Doug's planet joke. Couldn't stop laughing. Good dog.

  • @marcelo-ramos
    @marcelo-ramos3 жыл бұрын

    Missed the opportunity to reference Peralta & Judy song from Brooklyn 99... ♪ The talking dog flies in outer space ♫

  • @rickyross952
    @rickyross9523 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. This makes so much sense and closes so many loopholes. I love it!

  • @gothnate
    @gothnate3 жыл бұрын

    When Steve went back in time knew he couldn't interfere with events or they would change the win in the future, so he stayed out of it all. Sometimes doing the right thing is doing nothing at all. Steve is smart enough to know when to stay put. Old Steve could have gone to Wakanda at some point after Civil War when they were friendly with him, and had them make a new one for him to take home until he was ready to pass it off to Sam. Not complicated, and doesn't mess up the timeline.

  • @JohnFoley1701
    @JohnFoley17013 жыл бұрын

    Frozen cap gets time travelled to another universe to get his own dance, then time travels that universe’s capcicle to another universe for his own dance. I.e. infinite progression of alternate universe peggy dancing.

  • @seph159

    @seph159

    3 жыл бұрын

    poor peggy never gets the dance from the steve that asked her :(

  • @ugoeze7360

    @ugoeze7360

    3 жыл бұрын

    A good dance card never ends.

  • @KooPlays
    @KooPlays3 жыл бұрын

    I like some of the theory, but not all. I mean, it's 70 years later that they meet Sam, so how can Sam join them and grow old with the shield? The theory fell apart once Sam is mentioned in the alternate timeline.

  • @Illbewhateveriwannado

    @Illbewhateveriwannado

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s a good point. I wonder if something bad happened to Sam in the alternate timeline and he never got to be Captain America for long. Thus making Steve travel to the main timeline to give him his shield so that Sam could still fulfill the role.

  • @andrese68
    @andrese683 жыл бұрын

    Happy mentions (in the movie spiderman homecoming) caps "new shield" Tony made a new shield, the same shield that old cap gave Sam

  • @JR-tq3qk
    @JR-tq3qk3 жыл бұрын

    pretty solid theory,,,, backed up by really good evidence and a strong explanation. nice video man

  • @nannyalberte
    @nannyalberte3 жыл бұрын

    yes! Cosmo and Laika space adventures!

  • @johncarroll1276
    @johncarroll12763 жыл бұрын

    Okay, so Doug is my favorite thing out of any timeline. Good job, Doug. Give him all the treats!

  • @anonimatus007
    @anonimatus0073 жыл бұрын

    THATS NOT WHAT THE ANCIENT ONE SAYS, TRAVELING BACK IN TIME DOESNT CREATE BRANCHES, WHAT SHE SAYS IS THAT TAKING AN INFINITY STONE OUT OF ITS TIME DOES, even in the loki trailer scene you posted is says "you picked up the tesseract breaking reality" that happened because of the tesseract, the branches in endgame are formed by the stones being taken out, not by just simply traveling back in time

  • @BrianMax
    @BrianMax3 жыл бұрын

    Steve Rogers went back in time, changed his first name to Fred, became an ordained minister, and in the 1960s started a free-access children's TV show called "Mr. Roger's Neighborhood".

  • @Indyrael
    @Indyrael3 жыл бұрын

    Love me some Screencrush yes!! Have a good day everyone

  • @lordvenjix3757
    @lordvenjix37573 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video Ryan Arey 👍

  • @JDReynolds2005
    @JDReynolds20053 жыл бұрын

    Gives a new meaning to Cap's response to Sam at the end of Endgame, when Sam says the shield feels like it belongs to someone else... and Cap says that it isn't someone else's, but in face IS SAM'S SHIELD. 😳.

  • @tacojones5666

    @tacojones5666

    3 жыл бұрын

    yep. Steve took it from Alt Timeline Sam and let him know he knows what's best for it instead of letting Alt Timeline Sam make that decision.

  • @MrAjCalderon
    @MrAjCalderon3 жыл бұрын

    I always thought the old man Steve is from the future. The super soldier serum would have probably kept him young-ish I think he would have lived past the dangerous parts and then came back to the end game timeline to drop the shield from his new branches future

  • @jorgecarbajal8076
    @jorgecarbajal80763 жыл бұрын

    It would be so cool to see that alternate timeline created by Steve, maybe in an episode of What If…?

  • @tacojones5666

    @tacojones5666

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. Where Steve keeps fighting after he saves the universe and is responsible for saving a million plus people over the course of 70+ years only for Thanos to fly to earth with his army and kill half the population eventually. Very Cool.

  • @eugeniamonge6124
    @eugeniamonge61243 жыл бұрын

    Love Doug's speech at the end of the video! so much fun!

  • @dmangelsm1188
    @dmangelsm11883 жыл бұрын

    Fun theory-it's always good to come up with them. Here, it could also be that Steve knew that interfering in major events like 9/11, saving Bucky, etc. would probably lead to us losing to Thanos (permanently) in the end. There was only 1 winning timeline after all. I like the idea of "Roger Stephens" running around in the background for decades helping people in minor ways as Nomad. He probably just got a new shield (or re-forged the 1st one) from Wakanda days before giving it to Sam.

  • @brianhogg358
    @brianhogg3583 жыл бұрын

    It's almost like all explanations for Steve going into the past utterly destroy the character.

  • @tacojones5666

    @tacojones5666

    3 жыл бұрын

    Trading lives, trying to win a war before it starts, not doing what it takes to win.

  • @helloinspiration

    @helloinspiration

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's why I hated what they did. They wanted to give him his "happily ever after" but didn't think about the repercussions to the rest of the universe. I'm always going to call bullshit on it, but at least the "perfect universe" theory makes it more tolerable.

  • @Noone-jn3jp
    @Noone-jn3jp3 жыл бұрын

    if you wipe out Doug’s eyes daily after a grooming he won’t get the dark marks below them.

  • @devisrikadem8781

    @devisrikadem8781

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes,his eyes need cleaning.

  • @kostas2856
    @kostas28563 жыл бұрын

    I just love that infinity gauntlet mug you have there

  • @evanlillianthal6860
    @evanlillianthal68603 жыл бұрын

    I LOVED this theory and really loved the video!

  • @raymundodelacruz5173
    @raymundodelacruz51733 жыл бұрын

    In a perfect end Bucky fakes his death, uses extremis to grow is arm back, and live with Sams family

  • @ruchikhera7013

    @ruchikhera7013

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well the might be difficult for him to grill burgers in the summer xD

  • @RomualdBrunet

    @RomualdBrunet

    3 жыл бұрын

    and becomes the Summer Soldier

  • @mrdonkeybiscuts4891
    @mrdonkeybiscuts48913 жыл бұрын

    For one that old guy at the funeral had his face shown not Steve so don’t even and also agents of shield is not cannon it was never said to be part of the mcu

  • @daveblonn3541
    @daveblonn35413 жыл бұрын

    As much as I enjoy it, it means Sam is taking up the shield for the 2nd time. Meaning old man Cap would have an idea of what it meant for a black man to take up the shield. Additionally, getting a life was exactly what Steve wanted to do. Sacrifice vs. Selfishness is what it's all about and I don't think it can be written off as easily. Keep up the awesome work. Love ya Doug!

  • @kmcd6140
    @kmcd61403 жыл бұрын

    I like most of it. Just a note: Steve didn't have all of the perfect information. Most of the Hydra side of things was destroyed. He could have easily been working as a "super special" agent. Many things had to happen for them to win in the end. Steve's an old soldier. He knows most victories come at a cost. He was beaten down and ready to step out of the light. He knew Peggy died of cancer, but he never found out that Hydra did it. He thought she died happy, having lived a full life. The statements that she made at the end, fit perfectly. She was reliving his return. Bucky was messed up. The memories of what he did seem to have come back, but they were regularly wiping him and starting over. Who knows if he knew where he was when. That one lab was just one of the labs he was kept in. The shield was broken when he left, and some how he had this version with him when he returned. Where is the broken shield?

  • @WTDSChannel13News
    @WTDSChannel13News3 жыл бұрын

    I can't wait till they do a story called old man cap the movie that explains all of this that s*** is going to be awesome

  • @jackfoley4383
    @jackfoley43833 жыл бұрын

    Doesn’t make sense that Steve could “cut a deal” with the Wakandans. How would he even make contact with them in the first place? And why would they help him? Prior to King T’Challa, Wakandans would have been very cautious of foreign nations.

  • @sillyking1991

    @sillyking1991

    3 жыл бұрын

    a lot can change in 80 years. as far as how would he make contact...i mean...he could just show up. damn good way to make contact. dude shows up knowing all the secrets you're trying to keep hidden, is as strong as your black panther. and genuinely seems like a good guy? stranger things have happened than that guy being listend to.

  • @Dikdusa
    @Dikdusa3 жыл бұрын

    I think its an interesting theory, but I feel like it would be massively complicated to explain in a movie format, better bet is that he just went back and lived his life with carter and they clip it there. You could possibly see a scenario where in the Loki series where hes meant to clip that alternate timeline where there are 2 caps.

  • @kaiokizen
    @kaiokizen3 жыл бұрын

    I think it's a little holey as a theory, for the exact same reasons mentioned by your best friend, but I really like having it in my mind to think about when I get anxiety about the subject. Basically you gave me some peace of mind, thank you!

  • @B_to_the_H
    @B_to_the_H3 жыл бұрын

    Isn't there still the plothole of Prime Steve Rogers taking the place of Alternate Timeline Steve Rogers? Or are you saying Prime Steve did a Rick and Morty where he found a timeline where the Alternate Timeline Steve died?

  • @B_to_the_H

    @B_to_the_H

    3 жыл бұрын

    The only scenario I can see that results in Prime Steve behaving in character throughout and not leaving Alternate Timeline Steve out to dry is Alternate Timeline Steve dying in the plane crash and Prime Steve taking his place, i.e. pulling a Rick and Morty. It's still technically Prime Steve stealing another Steve's Peggy, but it's an easier pill to swallow in my opinion.

  • @7heRequiem

    @7heRequiem

    3 жыл бұрын

    How about Prime Steve replaces Alternate Steve while alternate Steve is sleeping in the ice and comes back as soon as alternate Steve wakes up or they never found him?

  • @B_to_the_H

    @B_to_the_H

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@7heRequiem Out of character. Steve would never leave someone he knew to be trapped for that long knowing he could save them. Also, he'd never steal someone else's girl if that someone was still alive.

  • @omechron

    @omechron

    3 жыл бұрын

    Do we know for sure that they would have been able to locate and safely defrost the Stevecicle in the 40s? I know that the Super Sauce was PART of the reason he survived being frozen, but we only see him waking up after SHIELD thawed him and not what other hoops they jumped through. There could definitely be more to it than pointing a hairdryer at him and hoping for the best. Or maybe they formed a throuple. After all, Steve did express appreciation for his younger self's ass during Endgame.

  • @jumaaneface1
    @jumaaneface13 жыл бұрын

    Steve traveled to the past and didn't change anything. He didn't try to change events to prevent more branching realities. The entire plot of the series still happened and he ends up in falcons present but caps future. So he was always meant to travel back in time due to him knowing not to alter the course of events, since they win anyways, and this was the only way for that to occur.

  • @bztoni

    @bztoni

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think you are right - he knows the end, so he can repeat his life and be happy after he has served his purpose in the future. It is a much simpler story and seems to fit the model of MCU.

  • @deekshamishra1814

    @deekshamishra1814

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also dr. Strange also said that there was only one future where avengers won and disturbing the timline means that this future is ruined and avengers never win

  • @threadbearr8866
    @threadbearr88663 жыл бұрын

    Gotta say, I agree with Doug. That movie would be awesome and 5 money would set records.

  • @alextemus
    @alextemus3 жыл бұрын

    The last 2 minutes are the best two minutes I've ever watched on youtube

  • @stvhght
    @stvhght3 жыл бұрын

    I’ll be real annoyed if this last episode of FATWS doesn’t reveal the Power Barker to us.

  • @mikfly
    @mikfly3 жыл бұрын

    It’s the same shield. Captain America just left the shield for his future self by the bench. Old Man Captain American blew past them when he returned to their timeline, walked over to the bench where he had left the shield and Bucky sent Sam over. Otherwise there would already be a shield at the Captain America museum.

  • @the_mpower

    @the_mpower

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanos broke his shield, and on the new shield there's some kind of dots on that white part

  • @kraigpearlman3283
    @kraigpearlman32833 жыл бұрын

    Wow I love this theory, It also makes more sense why Sam would say "It feels like someone else's" and then Old man cap says "It Isn't" BECAUSE ITS ACTUALLY SAM WILSONS FROM ANOTHER TIMELINE! Mind blown.

  • @GrumpyJerk
    @GrumpyJerk3 жыл бұрын

    Doug is awesome and is the reason why Screen Crush is so AWESOME! Hims is a good boy!

  • @losergrad
    @losergrad3 жыл бұрын

    I like that the series began with Sam believing that he wasn't worthy of the shield and the world telling him it wasn't worthy of him and he seems to now believe that the truth is somewhere in the middle.

  • @carolina3dd
    @carolina3dd3 жыл бұрын

    ok, this is my new headcanon, I hope Bucky never says anything that goes against this

  • @goldblackarmy3696

    @goldblackarmy3696

    3 жыл бұрын

    I like theory too, the only problem is that the ancient one & Banner stated that once the stones are returned, then the branched timeline becomes the prime one again. Unless Loki is the one who created the alternative timeline for Cap. (by stealing the tessaract) 🤷

  • @davidcu629
    @davidcu6293 жыл бұрын

    Great video thanks for making it

  • @777brown
    @777brown3 жыл бұрын

    Doug totally spoke up right as I was clicking off the video. "5 Money." I'm dying!

  • @danmaier2824
    @danmaier28243 жыл бұрын

    Doug has some excellent ideas!! I really like this shield theory, all except the Steve on ice problem 😏

  • @AmiasKim
    @AmiasKim3 жыл бұрын

    I been preaching the perfect timeline for forever. He is Steve Roger's ffs, he would never let buck suffer for 70 years just cuz "in the end I'll save him", and would never let hydra infiltrate shield either, and so many other things.

  • @jamesforbes4996
    @jamesforbes49963 жыл бұрын

    I am finally glad that someone is talking about the shield differences. Marvel could have easily made the shield that Steve gave to Sam identical to the one he used in his fight with Thanos (and of course in all of the previous movies). However, they did not. No explanation has been given for this, but it must have some significance. (The only alternative I can think of is a lazy propmaster on the Endgame movie.) I don't think the "shield belongs to an alternate Sam" theory is necessarily correct. But I think it is better than the Marcus McFeeley explanation which seems to circumvent the Marvel time travel explanation. As far as Steve is concerned, I think he appeared to Peggy after his alternate self had the plane crash. He lived out his life with Peggy and then chose to go back to his original timeline just as his other self went to put the stones back where they came from. As for the shield differences, these are alternate timelines we are dealing with. So the design differences might just simply be stylistic on the part of the designers.

  • @AaronShegrud
    @AaronShegrud3 жыл бұрын

    The ancient one wasn't talking about creating branches in time, those were already created by traveling through time. she was talking about making those branches more dangerous without all the stones to protect them........

  • @datastorm75
    @datastorm753 жыл бұрын

    I love the convoluted things people go through in order to try to force something to fit a theory they prefer.

  • @briandaleske5139
    @briandaleske51393 жыл бұрын

    I honestly think all four theories sounded very interesting to me.

  • @Usapyon_0719
    @Usapyon_07193 жыл бұрын

    this was awesome, we need MORE videos with Doug ! he is so cute and has the best theories.

  • @sarahtey9935
    @sarahtey99353 жыл бұрын

    I love this second theory. That’s a great solution that really benefits the most people possible.

  • @guinnessporter
    @guinnessporter3 жыл бұрын

    My brain just melted. Thank you!!! Doug needs his own videos

  • @michaell7800
    @michaell78003 жыл бұрын

    Excellent episode. More Doug please!

  • @burtonyan8467
    @burtonyan84673 жыл бұрын

    Really appreciate Doug's input.

  • @shababhsiddique
    @shababhsiddique3 жыл бұрын

    I think what the writer intended was that it only makes a branch timeline if a infinity stone is taken from its place. (as the ancient one explained they create the flow of time). So if someone travel time without stone its not branching out he is just traveling along his own timeline. Thats how cap returned the stones to fix all branches and then just travel along his own timeline to get old with peggy. This explain a lot of things: 1st how the avengers hop between time without creating branches even though they messed a lot of stuff. When cap returned he did not fix all the cars they broke or all the ppl they lied to. He just returned stones. 2nd how loki is creating a branch timeline, cause he was carrying a infinite stone out of its position on a possible past (the NY attack ). 3rd. There should be a alternate dark branch with no Thanos but there is not, because he didnt time travel with a stone. he just hopped to his future which was undone when cap returned the stones.

  • @valarieperez-schere4136
    @valarieperez-schere41363 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate Doug’s commentary & I think he should write up a treatment to pitch to Fiege. Would 100% watch dogs saving dogs in space.

  • @powergirl7619
    @powergirl76193 жыл бұрын

    I love your theory!!!❤

  • @sinister3128
    @sinister31283 жыл бұрын

    This theory explains very well the line, "It feels like it belong to someone else" "It doesn't"

  • @luckyDancer100
    @luckyDancer1003 жыл бұрын

    They could do a whole series on what happened to steve in that alternative timeline.

  • @tacojones5666

    @tacojones5666

    3 жыл бұрын

    They could, but we know the ending already.

  • @J.O.R.D
    @J.O.R.D3 жыл бұрын

    The thumbnail is hilariously amazing 😂👏🏽 It’s killed me 🤣

  • @wisethirtyseven

    @wisethirtyseven

    3 жыл бұрын

    Came here for this comment. That thumbnail had me 💀

  • @J.O.R.D

    @J.O.R.D

    3 жыл бұрын

    Had me ready for the morgue for real 😂 I’m still dead

  • @outtabox4676
    @outtabox46763 жыл бұрын

    Love the effort ❤️❤️❤️

  • @martinarias1690
    @martinarias16903 жыл бұрын

    Og Steve went back left himself in that timeline he was frozen but I think he and peggy had to have a secret life... to not interfere with frozen Steve's future

  • @yveswolfgang
    @yveswolfgang3 жыл бұрын

    i actually think the shield is a refurbished version of the shield that Cap dropped in Captain America: The Winter Soldier

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