I saw this comment somewhere and felt like sharing it: "Suicide doesn't solve the problem, it transfers it to someone else"

@miless162

5 жыл бұрын

Cmon

@scooby25611

5 жыл бұрын

Makes a lot of sense.. because maybe that person stops suffering, but it causes suffering for everyone else who is left to deal with the person's death, in turn, making _them_ depressed.

@doberpunk4888

5 жыл бұрын

Sadly true, if this wasn't true I wouldnt have been here today

@Enduro300rr

5 жыл бұрын

Ridiculously true

@mckinleymurphy6181

5 жыл бұрын

Joyner Lucas says that in "im sorry" pls watch

*talks about dark suicide song* *plays happy whistling music* 😂

@MannyVideosCZ

5 жыл бұрын

feel u

@JolanRensen

5 жыл бұрын

Guess the stigma no longer scares us

@mickles800

5 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@isuruFO

5 жыл бұрын

J'sWay WE ALL ARE STRANGER CREATURES THAN WHENN WE ALL STARTED OUT AS KIDS

@Kllyec

5 жыл бұрын

That's what I was thinking!!

I thought of neon like neon signs. They attract attention and try to show off something good. So he’s saying that the gravestones are attracting attention.

@ewstap9040

5 жыл бұрын

J'sWay or they are putting something bright and wonderful on a gravestone to make it seem better then it actually is.

@brooke7750

5 жыл бұрын

@@ewstap9040 that's exactly what i thought

@JosiahVaughan

5 жыл бұрын

thegirlwarriør oh yah that’s true that would work too

@KaylinMuller99

5 жыл бұрын

I kind of pictured it as the billboards or those big screen TV'S that play the news

@kierankulesa9365

5 жыл бұрын

Neon lights makes it seem that death is attractive and is a viable and the only option

this song is by far the most lyrically interesting and beautiful song on the entire album

@jas_003

5 жыл бұрын

TRUTH

@LILProductions

5 жыл бұрын

Sammysings no.

@alessiocarabelli7870

5 жыл бұрын

Definitely yes.

@rachelelizabeth6017

5 жыл бұрын

Sammysings honestly, I think it’s one of the most important songs ever written. It’s absolutely beautiful, and says something every single person needs to hear. 💛💛

@yg-fn8fs

5 жыл бұрын

neon gravestones and truce

I’m not crying, I just have a bit of neon gravestones in my eye

@mikayillubin3607

5 жыл бұрын

Me too

@landynistrash9378

5 жыл бұрын

Same

@amandabutterfly151

5 жыл бұрын

Clique City cough cough northern downpour part 2 cough cough

@Blue-rd2hd

5 жыл бұрын

@@amandabutterfly151 that hurted fren

@marcqu1108

4 жыл бұрын

It could a about social media. Neon gravestones is symbolism for cell phones and their connection to suicide

If anyone says that Tøp glorifies suicide, show them Neon Gravestones and this video

@colepapers6528

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@amanuelgetachew634

2 жыл бұрын

Do people say that?

@RelicQuadrangle

4 ай бұрын

​​​@@amanuelgetachew634that's literally crazy. If they actually pay attention to the lyrics it's always about fighting against the suicidal ideology. "Sometimes to stay alive you gotta kill your mind." "Stay alive. Stay alive for me. " "To life they were dedicated. Now that should be celebrated." "Tie a noose around your mind and loosen it to breathe fine." What's the point of escaping DEMA?? If it was glorifying suicide they would be accepting Vialism. There would be no reason to try and escape the city. They would be singing " I wanna end me." Like Billie Eilish. And worshipping the gravestones and bishops and accepting death.

I think it's Tyler basically saying that he doesn't(and we shouldn't) glorify it

@rachelelizabeth6017

5 жыл бұрын

ana 101 💛💛💛

@Sir......

5 жыл бұрын

yeah.... kinda got tired of people saying robin williams was 'brave' etc for what he chose....

@imogenharris3884

5 жыл бұрын

Wow a genius

@keons6484

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kiryu_Maji they're not disrespecting what was left behind, just pleading that IT does not get glorified

it's such a beautiful and important song. i love that he wrote it the way he did, he's never talked about mental illness in that way before and i'm really proud of him. one of the best songs he's ever written.

@Abby-vq2zz

5 жыл бұрын

jishwasoreos I completely agree. It’s wonderful for people to tell others that they understand their anxiety and depression but it’s even more dangerous to let “understanding” become celebration, or attributing greater strength to being willing to die versus being willing to stay alive. It’s a very brave song and I loved it

@rachelelizabeth6017

5 жыл бұрын

jishwasoreos I 100% agree. I truly believe that it’s one of the best songs ever written. It’s incredibly beautiful and every single word has a meaning that everyone on this earth needs to hear. 💛💛💛

@callybaucom1066

5 жыл бұрын

I have to agree, lyrically it’s one of the best things he’s written and I really hope he doesn’t get hate for it

@rachelelizabeth6017

5 жыл бұрын

Cally Rose 💛💛💛

Boy u be faster than a pet cheetah

@neonice

5 жыл бұрын

yee

@alexbecker2578

5 жыл бұрын

We should call him jason statham from now on

@albertaagard6972

5 жыл бұрын

Professor Statham

@haleykelley7199

5 жыл бұрын

Smooth

@mirasfingerbandages

5 жыл бұрын

His pet cheetah is quicker in the studio than on his feet

I think it's Tyler explaining that he doesn't glorify it.

@bonelessbooks9263

5 жыл бұрын

And that mental illness shouldn't be fetishized or romanticized

@blurryned4702

5 жыл бұрын

Tobz NO NO, I WILL NOT GLORIFY THAT NONE OF US WILL.

@rachelelizabeth6017

5 жыл бұрын

True, and he’s saying that we should glorify getting old and living life. 💕

@deffonotluke

5 жыл бұрын

@@blurryned4702 *slap* NO! You will NOT glorify that and NONE of us will!

@annasarri256

5 жыл бұрын

Well probably but what ifhe is trying to convince his self that he shouldn't glorify it...? Does it make sense?

I have this nagging feeling that the suicide of Linkin Park frontman Chester Bennington was the main inspiration for this song, seeing as Chester was a MASSIVE fan of Twenty One Pilots. He attended one of their concerts and tweeted about it afterwards, and even posted a video of him doing the Heavydirtysoul fast rap section.

@melonmilkice2755

5 жыл бұрын

And the judge version as well. Im with you dude. This was hard to hear from Tyler but I respect his opinion.

@toddbos1484

5 жыл бұрын

Neon gravestones REALLLLLY REMINDS ME OF HANDS HELD 👋👋

@jerrinho1448

5 жыл бұрын

I find it baffling that in an album where he so obviously depicts Christianity as a flawed "blind belief" that his conservative Christian fan base would still show up and explain all his songs in psalms and bullshit bible interpretations, when he paints a picture much bigger than that, encouraging you to think for yourself and find your own meaning of life. Truly irritating.

@inthexis2088

5 жыл бұрын

Where is the Christian influence in this song ???? He was talking about suicide and the media, not Christianity lmao

@Gyo5816b

5 жыл бұрын

Or maybe, if you looked at the next couple lines of lyrics, he's saying don't blindly believe something. Maybe consider and question your faith as well. Because he still picks above ;) Just because you think the Bible is BS doesn't mean his faith isn't deeply woven into his music. Listen to Clear by Twenty One Pilots.

In my opinion it is really brave from Tyler to be this straight forward about a topic this heavy I love the lyrics, the message is very important and the whole Album was SO worth the wait 💛

@rachelelizabeth6017

5 жыл бұрын

yee is løve 💛💛💛

@rachelelizabeth6017

5 жыл бұрын

yee is løve jishwasoreos I 100% agree. I truly believe that it’s one of the best songs ever written. It’s incredibly beautiful and every single word has a meaning that everyone on this earth needs to hear. 💛💛💛

@maryfredrickson2182

5 жыл бұрын

yee is løve is there a “yee is life”?

Neon grave stones is a song that this generation needed.

@rhaws2683

5 жыл бұрын

It's all we need

I met the mother of my (dead) stepdad today..she is a very old woman in a wheelchair and when I talked to her I thought of the last lines of this song..I celebrate her and the fact that she lives so long and keeps going 💛

@rachelelizabeth6017

5 жыл бұрын

Isabel xy 💛💛💛

In my opinion, he's saying that glorifying suicide is wrong and that you shouldn't celebrate death but life. And honestly this song really reminded me of that Chester Bennington's situation where everyone started to love him "again" after he took his life... And if you see linkin park did got more attention after chester's suicide... No one was talking about linkin park, no one was really caring about, there were even heavy criticism on the new album (One more light) but when Bennington unfortunately took his life, everyone was paying attention to him again. That's sad but that's the truth.

@Enduro300rr

5 жыл бұрын

Shirooh Amy Good point. Reminded me of Mac Miller. Although it’s really unknown if his death premeditated in his own mind or not, regardless, he was the reason that he died after an overdose. Nobody cared to try to help. He stopped making music for some time then finally came out with “swimming”. Honestly on the top 3 albums I have every heard in my 20 years. It immediately helped me identify the lack of care for myself and my tendencies to have a “what happens happens” attitude. A lot of his lyrics (now after his passing) seem to be small cry’s for help that everybody disregarded. It’s very sad that a lot of people, even myself included, try sooo hard to relate to the lyrics of a song that they forget those words are coming straight from somebody’s heart. The day he died everyone scurried to social media to talk about how mad they are that he passed and how good of a guy he was but such a small percentile attempted to help him. A lot of his stuff still doesn’t get the recognition it deserves. Such talent lost.

@weirdedits5985

5 жыл бұрын

@@Enduro300rr Yes, unfortunately life is a surprise and the mind is a mystery...

@Enduro300rr

5 жыл бұрын

Shirooh Amy well said. Stay safe friend

@weirdedits5985

5 жыл бұрын

@@Enduro300rr Stay safe you too friend

@ashleymalmay8573

4 жыл бұрын

Yes I saw some other people talking ab the Linkin Park suicide and how it was possibly the inspiration for the song

I'm always inspired by people who have gone through things and still have survived. But not really those who have have gone through things and ended it. Please don't take that the wrong way, it's just I can't have a conversation with the already dead. Those who have scars have control of their self power. (To me at least.) Those who have ended it, they didn't find what they needed and ill mourn, but that's all I can do. Ill mourn for the dead, but ill have a conversation with the still living. That's all I can do. (Again please dont take this the wrong way, it's just my thoughts)

@rachelelizabeth6017

5 жыл бұрын

Broken SweetHeart 💛💛💛 I totally understand what you mean! We should continue to strive for more mental health awareness, but not celebration. We shouldn’t glorify the idea of suicide. We should glorify those who grow old and live life! 💛

@babiebabie3716

5 жыл бұрын

totally agree

@babiebabie3716

5 жыл бұрын

i wish ppl could see this point of view

@rachelelizabeth6017

5 жыл бұрын

RXNR 14 yes! I think it’s incredibly important! 💛💛

@lulu-eq7pe

5 жыл бұрын

I cannot agree more.

This video represents tøp *happy background music on deep talk"

I think that Tyler wants to use the line of "use this mistake as a form of aggression" as a way of someone saying "if you do ____ I'll kill myself" kind of thing

@thesilly11409

Жыл бұрын

or as a way of saying 'If I kill myself, they'll be sorry that they did that/said ___ to me' but yeah I agree

Neon Gravestones was a deep ride for both my friend and I since we listened to it together and gave live reactions in our Instagram dms. Also Cliff I love your cautious approach to this song and topic. You're doing great hon 💞

@razzleraanan9506

5 жыл бұрын

i agree, its very appreciated :)

@moonbeam3362

5 жыл бұрын

Tyjo Johnson I agree!! Great job!!

It’s important to acknowledge that depression, anxiety, and suicide are terrible things that we need to help stop. But it seems like media is going to far and almost portraying it as a good thing that people can do for revenge, or for attention. Like Tyler says in the song, they’re treating it like it’s an option when it shouldn’t be. We should be talking about it yes, mental health awareness is so important! But, we need to word things carefully so people don’t get the wrong idea. If you don’t take care when talking about something like suicide, it can have the opposite effect and cause more suicides. I hope people actually listen to this video the whole way through and take what Tyler is saying seriously. Sorry if I said anything offensive, I tried to word my thoughts as best I could. Love you, stay alive. ||-// 💛

@nightcoreedits266

5 жыл бұрын

Shannyn i haven’t seen anywhere in the media where they are portraying suicide in the manner your speaking of. i only see people blaming the victim. which is cruel and inhuman. we should help those who we see need it, and not expect them to always ask for help. because it’s really difficult to ask sometimes.

@strwberry1876

5 жыл бұрын

💛🌻💛

@rachelelizabeth6017

5 жыл бұрын

jishwasoreos I 100% agree. I truly believe that it’s one of the best songs ever written. It’s incredibly beautiful and every single word has a meaning that everyone on this earth needs to hear. I truly appreciate Tyler being very straightforward and saying what needs to be said. 💛💛💛 I think you did a really good job explaining this song! We should continue to strive for more mental health awareness, but not celebration. We shouldn’t glorify the idea of suicide. We should glorify those who grow old and live life! 💛

@makaylayingling5509

5 жыл бұрын

@@nightcoreedits266 stuff like 13rw

@ashleymalmay8573

4 жыл бұрын

Ty I needed this 👏 I have anxiety and ocd

I think the term “Neon Gravestones” is like how neon signs advertise establishments. These graves of celebrities are almost advertising to us but he’s not going to give in to it and he hopes others don’t either. This song is my favourite from Trench because it really says something and deals with the topic respectfully and never actually says the S-word. Its amazingly powerful, it makes me cry and it’s honestly very interesting to hear a new point of view and some lyrics that really resonate with me. Also, stay alive frens ||-//

Tyler's musical genius on full display here: The vibe of the song is dark with the piano notes almost building a cemetery vibe, the whirling sound effects at the beginning paint a ambiguous phantasm picture and to top it off, the snares are playing what drummers call "ghost notes" Bravo Tyler. Bravo.

The part about 'if i lose to myself.....' has me so worried for tyler:(

@strwberry1876

5 жыл бұрын

💛💛💛

@imdefinitelynotemily

5 жыл бұрын

@Katherinne Montrose thnx 💛

@nrskkitty5768

5 жыл бұрын

Katherinne Montrose “stay alive friend, *|-/“*

The background music is annoying as hell, specially for a topic like this

@BRITxKN33

5 жыл бұрын

carly :3 i was really curious to get someone’s opinion on this song but I can’t deal with the music it’s just throwing off the whole vibe

@kalqul8er

5 жыл бұрын

I respectfully disagree I think it fits the TØP style. They have said before in their songs that their music doesn't match the lyrics so to give off a hopeful undertone

@glock889

5 жыл бұрын

A

@sofijeffrey9797

5 жыл бұрын

@@kalqul8er Yeah, but it just kills the mood

@kalqul8er

5 жыл бұрын

@@sofijeffrey9797 yeah I agree. Its supposed to.

I really like that you mentionned 13 reasons why. I didnt watch the show, but read the book and felt very uncomfortable, hated it. It felt exactly like you said. Like killing oneself to make people feel bad and seek a kind of revenge was a thing. No.

Chester of Linkin Park is a big twenty one pilots fan. You can still read it on his twitter account. He went to to their concerts. I have mixed emotions over this because i love chester so much but also that tyler speaks the reality about celebrity suicide. Remember the lyrics that mention Celebration? The hollywood bowl was called chester bennington, a celebration of life. Also, about mourning for the kid but not for the king, coz Chester has like 6 youngs kids. But also, I know that he reached out to the band last, and for the fans, that's enough.

@pati9230

5 жыл бұрын

I feel the same about it but I think Tyler didn't really mean that

@melonmilkice2755

5 жыл бұрын

@@pati9230 dont worry, whatevwr is tyler's pov, i would always love him

@anthnylder8136

5 жыл бұрын

Chester is dead.

@onewingedangel327

Ай бұрын

Crazy to blame Chester like that

I feel this could be the response to Chesters death that everyone wanted. Some were pretty upset that he "said nothing" when that happened and now he's like want my opinion? Here it is.....

@kolibambangg

5 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@speedstacker51

5 жыл бұрын

Agree

@scooby25611

5 жыл бұрын

I do think it could be about that because I remember after he died, they had a HUGE celebration in honor of him that they posted online "they would host and post a celebration"

@jendoggydogg6475

5 жыл бұрын

@@scooby25611 yes....it may be about celebrity suicide in general but I definitely think Chesters death triggered these thoughts. And the clique wanted Tyler to post about it giving Chester a neon gravestone.....just my thoughts

•its sort of is• •it sounds like tyler is saying that suicide isnt an option•but we as a society almost glorify it in a way that it seem like its an option•knowing that it will accepted as a form of death•and tyler doesnt agree with that•he wants us to stay alive•later on he says if he decides to take his life•that we have to promise not to glorify his death•but to appreciate what he did while he was living•and later on he goes to say that we have appreciate our older family our parents and to show respect for them• that they gave us this life to live and we should live up to the promises that they have made• •thats my interpretation• •sorry for the length• ||-//

@tom-phool1196

5 жыл бұрын

•this•format•is•really•extra•

@burritobasura

5 жыл бұрын

Tom-Phool •thank•you•!•!•!•

I think that the lyric 'neon gravestones' is a metaphor for these glorified suicides.

“This culture is a vulture that feeds on pain.”

@brink3149

5 жыл бұрын

Paradox Shadow this culture is a poacher of overexposure not today don’t feed me to the vultures I am a vulture who feeds on pain

I have Generalized Anxiety Disorder. I’ve struggled with it, for as long as I can remember, I’m still struggling with it, and I will struggle with it for the rest of my life. I’ve had bad thoughts, I still do sometimes even though I don’t like admitting it. It makes me scared to talk about my struggles sometimes because I don’t want people to hate me, make things worse for me, and worst of all, waste their time pitying me. But I also love talking about these things, having real conversations about uncomfortable topics like this, because it makes it easier for me to admit that I’m not okay. And being able to admit I’m not okay, ironically, makes me feel a bit better. From my perspective, you didn’t say anything offensive or uncalled for. You handed the topic with care, and therefore handled it well. Thank you. Sending love to anyone out there struggling, stay alive. ||-// 💛

@ellelovesyou6600

5 жыл бұрын

@shannyn7404

5 жыл бұрын

Hysteria! At the Roller Skating Rink Thank you. I do try my best to keep a similar mind set, and I will continue to do so. I was under the impression that GAD is some that stays with you for life... I should have researched that before I said something like I did. Thank you for your comment. It means a lot. And keep up the determination, you’re doing great too. 😊

@jaxson9809

5 жыл бұрын

Shannyn same I’m 12 and I have GAD. I feel you. We got this. 💛

@rachelelizabeth6017

5 жыл бұрын

Shannyn 💛💛💛

@Mary-km7rr

5 жыл бұрын

❤️

I love this song, it is completely amazing. I was so happy with Trench. It was worth the wait.

Here’s my take from a Christian perspective. And knowing that Tyler is a Christian, this makes sense to me at least. I’m going to be referencing multiple songs here as a whole big picture/album not just one song. 1. Dema: “For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, 2 Timothy‬ ‭4:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬ (so even though in the Bible Demas is actually a person I think the meaning still fits.) Dema is “the world.” Christians will know what this means because “we are Not of this World.” (Dema don’t control us) 2. Vialism: my guess is that with the “tubes of light” you see in the Nico video, this is referencing cell phones. People today, especially young people are so entranced and controlled by their by their cell phones. People in the world today (Dema) are impressionable, entranced and mind controlled even addicted to their cell phones. (think about the vials of light the bishops are making.) You can also think about how Tyler and Josh poke fun at peoples addiction to their cell phones with the “extreme phone pinching” videos they made. 3. Jumpsuit: Jumpsuit is Tyler’s faith. God, Jesus, the Bible etc. all of it is his Faith. Jumpsuit = his Faith, his beliefs. Matthew 16:24-26 E 24 Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.” ***”I'm heavy, my jumpsuit is on steady.” Taking up your cross is Heavy. James 4:10 ESV / 36 “Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will exalt you.” ***”I'm lighter when I'm lower, I'm higher when I'm heavy,” when we humble (lower) our selves we will be exalted (higher) Psalm 118:5 ESV “Out of my distress I called on the Lord; the Lord answered me and set me free.” ***”I'm so high, my Jumpsuit takes me so high” 4. Trench: Luke 19:43 “For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,” Link :Stories in the Bible about people who struggled with depression www.crosswalk.com/faith/spiritual-life/7-bible-figures-who-struggled-with-depression.html?amp=1 5. Leave the city: leave the city=leave Dema, Dema is the world. Leave the city= leave the world =The Rapture. 6. Morph: For "above" is blind belief (Faith) and "under" is sword to sleeve
And "around" is scientific miracle, let's pick "above" (Christian Faith) and see. From car radio: “Peace will win and fear will lose It is faith and there's sleep We need to pick one please because, Faith is to be awake.” 7. Neon gravestones: sounds like an anger towards the glorification of suicide (think horrible TV shows like 13 reasons why, celebrity suicide etc.) but there is also an undertones reference to the negative influence of cell phones again, literally a neon gravestone. 8.”We’ve been here the whole time, you were asleep. Time to wake up. : “Wake up, sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.” Be very careful, then, how you live-not as unwise but as wise, making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil.” Ephesians‬ ‭5:14-16‬ ‭NIV‬‬. And there is so much more, I could go in and on! There are tons of Faith related messages in this album.

@shaewright7428

5 жыл бұрын

Okay thank youuu soooo much. This fantastic I 100% agreee ahhh! You should make KZread videos explaining the Christian aspects of the songs in more depth because I try and figure it out in my own and sometimes struggle.

@rachelelizabeth6017

5 жыл бұрын

Dang, you did your research! This is amazingly 💛💛

@aly8950

5 жыл бұрын

Bless you

@Me-zr9yh

5 жыл бұрын

I've been looking for this thank you

@MaddieMimi

5 жыл бұрын

I'm in awe

Neon gravestones is a very deep and darkly beautiful song. It makes me wonder if Tyler is doing alright. I hope he is okay since tour starts in 10 days and I don’t want him to force himself to pretend that he’s okay and go out and perform when he doesn’t want to. I could be wrong though.

My absolute favorite song of the album

@cloud1036

5 жыл бұрын

Same

i think u approached this topic n explained it in a v respectful way. neon gravestones is such a powerful n deep song damn, went right through my feels💔

Tyler and Josh actually did an interview about this song (I can’t remember who conducted it) where Tyler basically says that he wrote words that he himself would need to hear to help him conquer suicidal thoughts and that he doesn’t mean to demean people who feel them but is simply rejecting the glorification of death. I am absolutely in love with Tyler’s song writing and this just cements how involved and meticulous he is about the messages he present, and it also fits perfectly in the album.

@brynmarie9655

5 жыл бұрын

Just found the link! twitter.com/altpress/status/1048642742665039874?s=21

Great explanation. This song miiiiight be my favourite on Trench. Also I recalled their older song's "Glowing eyes" lyrics. In that song they say "We have romantic fantasies what dying truly is."

This was my favorite song from the first listen. It has like no nonsense, NF-ish, vibe, and it is so hard hitting. It relates to me so much, as I have found it much more difficult to be lenient on those who don't understand suicidal struggles. And are more milking the "hype" around it rather than actually understanding it. Also, I think the Neon Gravestones mean graves that are bright and shiny. Meaning that people are making it look admirable to commit suicide, and that is why they are "Neon"

@VERT1220

5 жыл бұрын

BlazerBoy I love nf

This is my favorite song on Trench

I think the "I'll teach them" is meant as somebody committing suicide thinking they'll show people who weren't nice to them how important they were. Or by really just letting it all out in their suicide note and "teach" their bullies not to be bullies but yes I would say he's talkingabout 13 reasons why even though I've only seen videos about how bad it is And if you wanna dive deeper into what Tyler said at the end of the third verse check out Old Bones by Trash Boat and the behind the lyrics to that song . It's a whole song about their singer talking to his grandpa who has experienced war and putting his whole life and his now seemingly meaningless struggles into a new perspective.

I really liked your explanation, although after multiple listens I have a different interpretation of the line "I'll mourn for a kid, but won't cry for a king", namely that it's still said by the 'they' mentioned in the previous line (They say, "How could he go if he's got everything?"). This is because this lyric matches incredibly well (when interpreted like this) with the previous line since a king kind of has everything and therefore they won't mourn him ( with the rationale of how could somebody like that feel sad??), but they will mourn a kid for various reasons

@ButterbeerMe

5 жыл бұрын

Romy Zandstra I thought those two lines were part of the same quote as well. When I looked in the booklet inside of the album at the lyrics though, there are only quotations around “how can he go if he’s got everything?” Then the I’ll mourn for a kid but won’t cry for a King line is not in quotations, and seems to be part of Tyler’s own thoughts. Which just made it more confusing for myself haha.

@tibbieiles8687

5 жыл бұрын

My Christian perspective, and iwe know Tyler is a Christian, The King in Christiandom is Jesus. Who by the way Gave up his life for all of us, that we may have everlasting life!! Hope that gives you some perspective...💛

@mivowatcher

4 жыл бұрын

Romy Zandstra yes finally! that’s exactly how I interpret and understand that part!!

The most offensive part of this video is all the desynced loop transitions in the background.

The song made me think about kurt cobain, probably the most glorified suicide ever, especially because of the line "it's better to burn out than to fade away" which, by the way, IS SO NOT TRUE please stay alive kids

Hi dad

@ThePopSongProfessor

5 жыл бұрын

Hey son/daughter

@sinistersummer5450

5 жыл бұрын

XD he actually replied to u

@Mary-kw2wq

5 жыл бұрын

@@ThePopSongProfessor you explained it exactly how I thought about it when I heard it for the first time. Thank you for explaining this is a polite and respectful way.

@blurryned4702

5 жыл бұрын

Yeast is up

@Vyrxs-

5 жыл бұрын

West is down

I think the line where he says “and could it be true....” I think he means that people could be commuting suicide to hurt other people it’s kinda like they’re saying yeah I committed suicide because of you like they’re trying to put blame on other people for what they did but idk just a theory

This is my favorite song

@cloud1036

5 жыл бұрын

Same

@jenniferchristian9836

5 жыл бұрын

Completely agree... I've lost 3 people I love in 4 years to suicide so I cry every time I listen to it but I can't stop listening!

@landon1460

5 жыл бұрын

sorry to hear that best of wishes to you and your family

I was literally watching Jake for Stolen Potential reacting to this This is the 3rd time this has happened Cliff are you psychic

@ThePopSongProfessor

5 жыл бұрын

Yep.

@jessicanewz

5 жыл бұрын

@@ThePopSongProfessor called it

50 seconds New record

I just can't believe that Tyler tackled such a difficult topic with such tact, and never once used the words suicide or even death.

I Iove this song so much. I cried first time I heard it

This is by far my favorite song of the album because I agree with everything he says. Glorifying suicide and loving people when they are already gone is bs, we should do it while they live. I think he tries to make a stand against suicide, like saying that it's a mistake to do it, we have to be strong and keep going.

Wow, I was just looking up the lyrics and the meaning of this song, after I realised that you haven't made a video of this yet and then I got this notification!! Thank you :D

I've got a question. Do you think the song is in this case related to celebrities? Because I got another kind of meaning from the vibes of this song: in general when someone dies people start to talk about their loss and love the dead person even more when he was alive, so anyway this kind of glorification happens a lot in our society even though the person is not famous. Besides in the verse "I'll mourn for a kid, but won't cry for a king" it could be referred to the fact that people strongly believe that you have got everything and you should be happy so that you shouldn't have any kind of reasons to be depressed because your life so perfect from their kind point of view. I don't know I love your explanation because it makes so much sense but I might think this message is like universal and is relate to everybody. What do you think about ? And also I have thought about this sentence for hours :Don't get it twisted It's with the people we praise who may have assisted: I think it's referred to the people who committed suicide, who have before assisted to this kind of actions of glorification so they think to use this method to get the glory and boost up their reputation. Maybe this could be seen as incorrect but I don't want to offend anybody so I am so sorry if I used any incorrect words.

this song never fails to make me cry, this song is honestly just a work of art

Is it okay that i bought it on cd. Please tell me it is. 😢

@badwolfwhovian63

5 жыл бұрын

Emo_Band_Official its awesome

@colinrichdale16

5 жыл бұрын

Emo_Band_Official it is in the past

@emo_band_official7177

5 жыл бұрын

@@badwolfwhovian63 thanks!

@emo_band_official7177

5 жыл бұрын

@@colinrichdale16 what does that mean!!

@jordanmaxfield4147

5 жыл бұрын

Yes

6:15 maybe he’s talking to jenna, to find another husband instead of mourning his death for her whole life

@StarryEyed0590

5 жыл бұрын

No, I am pretty sure he is talking to the fans, saying, "if I lose to myself," find someone else to look up to.Don't glorify me if I end my life that way. Find someone dedicated to life to celebrate.

You handled this super impactful song perfectly, I don’t think you said anything out of place and I agree on your explanation.

@jackj3311

5 жыл бұрын

Also; I think the title stands for how death was glorified and made some people think they had been better than they were.

The last verse makes me think of the lyric from Hamilton: “dying is easy, living is harder.”

I think you did a good job of being respectful and unbiased. I honestly think this may be the best song Tyler has ever written. So hauntingly beautiful yet packed with so much raw emotion.

Please explain cut my lip next. I can't understand anything from it

@kolibambangg

5 жыл бұрын

Same 😂

@ItsBlackSheepVision

5 жыл бұрын

To me, the meaning of CML is that no matter how much something or someone hurts you, you have the tendencies of coming back at it bcz you love it/them. A bit like being on drugs, but not exactly that. Or continuously putting yourself in danger because the result in the end is a positive one. Idk if I was clear 😅

Am I the only one that thought this had to do with school shootings? "It's with the people we praise who may have assisted I could use the streams and extra conversations I could give up, and boost up my reputation I could go out with a bang They would know my name" When someone shoots up a school they are often posted all over the news. Some news stations are bad about posting the shooters face everywhere. The shooter gets more attention then he would have ever otherwise like he is being praised. Kids shoot up schools when they are completely defeated. The message of loving them while they are alive rather than talking of them when they dead would fit. These kids want that attention, but they go to irrational means to get it. Getting this fame in death could be what Tyler is talking about. Here's some more lyrics that reinforce this theory. "And could it be true that some could be tempted To use this mistake as a form of aggression? A form of succession? A form of a weapon? Thinking "I'll teach them"" From what I understood, the attention the shooters receive only encourage more shooters. The mentality of "I'll teach them" has become almost acceptable. This is when Tyler rejects that idea and basically says it's deplorable. "Well, I'm refusing the lesson It won't resonate in our minds I'm not disrespecting what was left behind Just pleading that it does not get glorified" That's all I have to say. I think it fits really well. I'd love more voices and constructive criticism.

@tantanthespaceman1923

5 жыл бұрын

I'd love more comments !

@delanovictor7405

5 жыл бұрын

interesting way to see

You’re brave for taking on these songs! I think there’s a few points were missed, but it’s a lot to unpack. Every time I listen I get something new from the songs on Trench! Good job.

This was such a perfect dissection of the lyrics. That last part of the song resonated a lot with me. Reminded me of my grandma who passed this last summer. She was such a good example of someone who went through a lot but still fought through it all. To life she was dedicated and I celebrate her.

Why Is It So SADDDDDDD 😭😭😭😭😭😭

*I'm not crying, you are!* 😢

I'm loving all of these Trench explanations so far. Absolutely pumped for your video on Morph, that song's lyrics are important to me and I know you're going to kill it.

You've just enhanced my appreciation for this song. Thank you.

I love and appreciate your content SO much! But please please take off this background music..

So my idea for Neon Gravestones is about XxxTentacion's death. In the song Tyler says "I could give up, and boost up my reputation, I could go out with a bang, they would know my name, they would host and post a celebration" When Triple X died he gained so much popularity ( "I could give up, and boost up my reputation") and he died from a gun ("I could go out with a bang, they would know my name") and they had a funeral for Triple X ("they would host and post a celebration") I'm not saying this song is about Triple X, but I'm saying these lyrics could be about him

@imgcqt

5 жыл бұрын

It's not just about him, it's about every celebrity who dies. It's the same for all of them

@seppmeister2394

5 жыл бұрын

Isaiah Hiserman but X didn‘t give up, he got shot.

This is exactly how I understood this song. So crazy. I'm glad I have this band, and music in general to help cope. Glad you exist to explain some lyrics and/or give a different perspective on how songs could be interpreted!

Tyler is an actual lyrical genius. Like for real. He’s always so concerned with saying things the right way and you can tell how much time he spends dwelling on his choice of words by reading the lyrics. Some ideas are understood right away and others take a little more time but either way, everything is exactly what he wanted to say and how he wanted to say it. Nothing is thrown in just for the rhyme or whatever. Every word matters and that is so important and so hard to find in popular music.

Robin Williams and Chester Bennington’s deaths have NOT been glorified. Chester dying especially has sparked a movement in mental health awareness, and things are changing because of that. People are grieving a wonderful man, but his death hasn’t been glorified - it’s the exact opposite. We are helping people to stay alive because of him, not copy him. And please stop saying “commit” suicide. We say “die/died by suicide”, (or just “kill self” is better). The progress we have made, that Tyler talks about, includes changing the language we use to describe mental health. That means modifying our descriptives in order to not pass blame or stigma. Chester’s death has made this change happen, especially. Look at any website related to mental health and you will see what I’m talking about. “Commit” is an archaic term in 2018.

Like how Xxxtentacion topped charts AFTER his death.... The world is weird

@sissnapped6328

5 жыл бұрын

i love x but what does this have to do about the video 😂

@sissnapped6328

5 жыл бұрын

oh nvm i’m dumb. he was saying how everyone starts caring after you die. sorry !😂

@jagyansenipruthal6703

5 жыл бұрын

@@sissnapped6328 you realise that and that's good👍

@zoe7853

5 жыл бұрын

Jagyanseni Pruthal they listened to him because they felt bad for him i bet. his music was kinda sh'tty

Once again spot on analysis. I was in my garage painting last week when this song just clicked and it brought me to my knees in tears... I have gone and going through a lot of things in my life and this record has really helped me cope. Beautiful and powerful song.

Man. I love how clearly you put it. I couldn't understand it earlier cause I wasn't truly listening

Thank you for this! I was just listening to this song earlier and reading the lyrics and coming to a similar conclusion as you but you pointed out some things that I didn’t see at first as well so thank you!!

I’m doing a song analysis for school, and I’ve chosen this song to deconstruct as social commentary. This video was a huge help with my project, so thank you!

This son and it´s explanation were soooo deep and brilliant. Thank you, Cliff!

man, 100% agreed. thank you! btw, i found the explanation before watching your video, and you were just literally saying my thoughts. thanks ❤️

You opened my eye to this song. Thank you for making this video. 💕

man this song is so deep!!! I really was shook when I listened to it, I full on sobbed. its just all around beautiful in every way. yes its sad, but at the same time its so beautiful. its literally beautifully depressing. songs like these are why I love bands like Twenty One Pilots so much.

This is such a sad and powerful song. Thank you for explaining it so well. Probably the best song on the entire album lyrically. So beautifully handled 😭❤️

thank you for this breakdown - I have been struggling with a recent event, and this is may help me to focus the grief energy in a more productive direction.

Thank you so much. I absolutely love this video. I can now listen to this song and enjoy it for the real message behind the lyrics. This song speaks to me so I because I have felt everything that Tyler has written in this song and it has helped me to get through my struggles. Thank you so much for making this video 🙏🙏🙏

I think that you did a really good job explaining this. I think it’s accurate to what Tyler was trying to portray and tell us. I love this song ❤️

you created this video in the best way i could imagine. thank you for this.

This is a beautiful song and a beautiful video on how you interpreted it, well spoken

I think this is a really important stance to take in a scary, confusing world. I think your analysis is spot on and really helped me to understand this song better and in turn understand our society and myself better. Thank you for your service.

I think this hit the point spot on. Great song, great explanation, great video. Keep it up :)

This was a great explanation. Great video, Clifford.

I love how gently you handled this. That is so important when handling this topic. There are some kids (older people too, but usually kids, sadly) that are alone, that are in pain, that don't know how to or can't reach out. Something that you hear is "well, they don't care about me alive, so I'm going to make them regret that - get revenge on them for that, by killing myself, or the way they treated me in general" "I'll teach them a lesson" specifically is said a lot. Its important to talk about it - to destigmatize it - but we have to do that in a healthy way. Instead of making suicide this beautiful or trendy thing, we need to talk about it and reach out to people. I've never been entirely happy with my theory on the "we don't get enough love, well they get a fraction", but it seems like he's saying that some people have no one, that no one seems to see them or reach out to them. No matter how little we feel loved, there's a good chance that there is someone struggling with even less to hang onto. We need to glorify the work part, the getting better part. It can get better, and we need to spotlight that and how people can get to that point. We can't save everyone (which he mentions in NatN), but we need to reach as many people as we can. I think there's punctuation in there. lol

Thank you professor. Sometimes I don't get what Tyler is talking about because he words it very intelligently. So you will even talk about uncomfortable topics which I respect very much. Thank you for explaining in an easy way to understand and letting us communicate our ideas with you. Thank you Pop Song Professor. I hope he sees this.

You really couldnt make this video better, this is an abstract representation of tylers feelings about suicide and you explained it so damn good

I could never move on from Tyler and his songs has got me through things i just could never move on!

I just wanted to say that I think your doing a fantastic job explaining there new album. I personally love all there new songs and I just wanted to say your doing great and I can't wait for the next explanation. :)

I think you did a great job at delivering this, thank you! And these thoughts are worth considering. When people are going through problems, they should talk to someone who has more wisdom and who has stayed strong. But I think it's still hard for people to admit that they have depression or suicidal thoughts

I think you did a really good job explaining this song! 💛💛💛 I totally understand what you mean! We should continue to strive for more mental health awareness, but not celebration. We shouldn’t glorify the idea of suicide. We should glorify those who grow old and live life! 💛

everything was beautifully said, always love ur tøp videos

I am late but I just never took the time to watch this and now I have. Cliff, you are the best lyric explainer I've found and you clear up so many songs I appreciate all the time you spend on making these for us, I always thought that this song had to do with something about suicide but this song is deep it's also one of my favorites on Trench thank you