Is it possible to achieve a constant attention? | J. Krishnamurti

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  • @rajas3470
    @rajas34704 жыл бұрын

    It is one of the best speeches of JK that I have listened to till now...once we give up our effort to achieve something spiritually and try to be aware of ourselves without choice or preference, maybe we would realise ourselves!!

  • @arjunjm2968
    @arjunjm29684 жыл бұрын

    Freedom from the known book is a life saver.

  • @LostSoulAscension

    @LostSoulAscension

    3 жыл бұрын

    I own that book as well, truly a great read, so much different perspectives each read.

  • @esmaeilpr6444

    @esmaeilpr6444

    4 ай бұрын

    All his books is the small hole to the vast immence ocean.

  • @Absolutely-nothing80
    @Absolutely-nothing802 жыл бұрын

    JK sir, his excellency, is a man par excellence. He is a true embodiment of intelligence, freedom, love and sacredness. Every word contains millions of jewels. Invaluable gems. This message is so profound, subtle and a deep that my heart is filled with gratitude and salutations to JK sir. No words to express my joys. Listening to JK sir is celebration of life. It is best gift one can give to oneself. Lets all of rejoice how fortunate we are to be able to hear these messages directly from his excellency. Love you sir.❤❤❤

  • @soravnayyar6882

    @soravnayyar6882

    11 ай бұрын

    Found someone today that shares the same essence of his words ❤

  • @esmaeilpr6444

    @esmaeilpr6444

    4 ай бұрын

    His pure words are seeds of truth. It has began to flowering. Although for he who has get direct underestand of him the truth is pathless land so it is timeles. And the future is now.

  • @Andrei-ti1ij
    @Andrei-ti1ij5 жыл бұрын

    23:37 If you see static things, images, you move, you react, if you see your inner movements, you don't move, you are just choicelessly aware of movement, pure consciousness! You are choicelessly aware of choice...

  • @mirrortrix

    @mirrortrix

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@vhawk1951kl what benefit in dragging others down? Let OP try to figure it out.

  • @kingrhino11

    @kingrhino11

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@vhawk1951kl a very egoic response

  • @metipallearuna223

    @metipallearuna223

    Жыл бұрын

    Apart from taking x-ray choicelessly, bipedal gaits gets pegged by displacement of Adam's arc, i myself unaware of what if you were too accustomed to remove the pegs and become aware choicelessly.

  • @Oouri.0.2.0

    @Oouri.0.2.0

    Жыл бұрын

    I knew this as to be me but i gave away my power to external , which to other peoples who don't want me to be who i am. I am reclaiming my power back

  • @decid3

    @decid3

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@Oouri.0.2.0Excellent awareness. Values have been imposed upon us and like K says, "We have to inquire what it means to be completely aware...Not only what's going on in the world but inwardly." This really is the great work! Good job!

  • @yusufshakir40
    @yusufshakir404 жыл бұрын

    One video to change your life

  • @AnthonyHoward-ru8su
    @AnthonyHoward-ru8su Жыл бұрын

    This may be my favorite video of Krishnamurti that I have seen

  • @OkyeameKwameBRA
    @OkyeameKwameBRA2 жыл бұрын

    “When there is clarity there in no choice .” My question is : have we not chosen the clarity ? I choose my clarity because I am aware of the presence of both order and disorder in my nature . The complete awareness of this duality tells me there could be conflicts but when I lack clarity on which action to choose . I choose order consciously but it doesn’t necessarily mean I am conflicted because of the choice . I choose to be monogamous but it doesn’t meAn I am conflicted with polygamy . I see it’s presence but I am free of it because of choice .

  • @mahikayasth6419

    @mahikayasth6419

    Жыл бұрын

    Realisation is different from choice. When you realise the truth in something ...you are left with no Choice instead of sticking to it ..because you know that if you choose something else which is different from this realisation or against it ...then you'll fall back into the past again .

  • @LLLACor
    @LLLACor8 жыл бұрын

    Choiceless awareness with direct action. That action comes from the intrinsic intelligence of whole consciousness, combined with love, not self-centered love of my success, my children, my video, my pets, my country, my religion, but a compassion that when a living being is hurt, the pain is felt, the indivisibility of all living. Only then can we live in the flame of Truth! We think we're the thinker and the doer while we're just wrinkling time travelers in a tesseract of REALITY. Thanks for the flame.

  • @rohitsharma1285

    @rohitsharma1285

    2 жыл бұрын

    Flame 😂

  • @shaikhzahid07

    @shaikhzahid07

    Жыл бұрын

    how to cultivate Choiceless Awareness

  • @krox477

    @krox477

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@shaikhzahid07observe your actions without naming them good or bad observe your thoughts

  • @Maganyos
    @Maganyos5 жыл бұрын

    One perceives that JK gives the same answer to all these different questions... perhaps the answer is for the one illusion that perceives all these separate and different questions. Instead of addressing the symptom every single time he digs for the root.

  • @user-vb6sc2fo5y

    @user-vb6sc2fo5y

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think also...

  • @dipankarm4125

    @dipankarm4125

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@user-vb6sc2fo5y and still you keep doing the same mistake.

  • @govindbisen388

    @govindbisen388

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dipankarm4125 yeah 😀 i also repeatedly watch him

  • @parthasarathydharwar8788

    @parthasarathydharwar8788

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@govindbisen388 so that someday we act sanely and sensibly🙏🌹

  • @raumshen9298

    @raumshen9298

    Жыл бұрын

    basically we know he won't answer the question but.... 😂

  • @user-rk7lg8dx1y
    @user-rk7lg8dx1y7 жыл бұрын

    One of my favourite talks so far, excellent.

  • @helenamaria710
    @helenamaria7103 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for posting

  • @YK-jn2kp
    @YK-jn2kp7 жыл бұрын

    my attention span is so short that I can't even finish this video in one go.

  • @MrWoWnoobz

    @MrWoWnoobz

    5 жыл бұрын

    :(

  • @ROYWONDEROFF

    @ROYWONDEROFF

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@vidaprana Don't know about that

  • @aek12

    @aek12

    4 жыл бұрын

    No, you just want that. Think about this way. When you talk to your gf does it the same thing. I think not... He is talking to you. Don't think it is the video. These are just thoughts passing by another person and it can be you or him. decide

  • @harpreetgill4200

    @harpreetgill4200

    4 жыл бұрын

    KZread gurus..

  • @henryreese7236

    @henryreese7236

    3 жыл бұрын

    why do you call not finishing the video inattention? K has discussed this again and again.

  • @sandeepdwivedi7249
    @sandeepdwivedi72494 жыл бұрын

    Just awesome

  • @mohammedbadr5528
    @mohammedbadr55283 жыл бұрын

    I just love this guy!

  • @pallavivj79

    @pallavivj79

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too!

  • @ankie7180
    @ankie71802 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant

  • @angelasiegfried-rossi5034
    @angelasiegfried-rossi5034 Жыл бұрын

    La profondita di questo discorso e' immensa edettagliata in ogni sua frase ....e parole ....la conoscenza di se stesso attraverso l'attenzione nella vita giornaliera e non attraverso la conoscenza acquisita da altri ..cosi ci conosciamo solo con cio che viene dagli altri e costruiamo l'IMMAGINE DEGLI ALTRI ...CHE E' ILLUSIONE ...CONOSCERE SE STESSI E' L'ARTE DI VIVERE SE STESSI IN RELAZIONE CON GLI ALTRI....IN QUESTO MODO FORSE L'UMANITA INIZZIA A ESSSERE PROFONDAMENTE CONSAPEVOLE DELLA VERA BELLEZZA E AMORE ..❤❤❤GRAZIIIIIIE

  • @gheorghefalcaru
    @gheorghefalcaru5 жыл бұрын

    superb

  • @lucianoinso
    @lucianoinso3 жыл бұрын

    That was beautiful, at the end when he talked about attention I went self aware of attention as myself in such a way that it shocked me a bit

  • @enigmaticaspects698
    @enigmaticaspects6989 ай бұрын

    First and last freedom, fredom from the known, awakening of intelligence,At the feet of masters, The ending of time.. all are timeless books. In the ending of time, most intelligent questions are answered by JK ji❤..

  • @nishadesai4766
    @nishadesai47668 жыл бұрын

    Very thoughtful and provocative

  • @Ibrahim-hh6qx

    @Ibrahim-hh6qx

    5 жыл бұрын

    We miss him 🤗🤗

  • @JayeshP.
    @JayeshP.3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome

  • @dperry913MusicTracks
    @dperry913MusicTracks8 жыл бұрын

    He's really putting a lot of effort into this one.

  • @mikewright902

    @mikewright902

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're right he does it with every one of those talks I think😂😀😆

  • @Beiskraft

    @Beiskraft

    4 жыл бұрын

    It goes to the end

  • @ROoOKai

    @ROoOKai

    4 жыл бұрын

    Like in all others

  • @hello2020
    @hello2020 Жыл бұрын

    One can achieve complete attention only when understanding the nature of thought as well.

  • @MatheusOliveira-rs4uj
    @MatheusOliveira-rs4uj5 ай бұрын

    I will be extremely honest. And I do respect the man. I have been reading/listening K's words for the past decade. His words make sense, indeed. Often times I felt I could dissolve this or that fear, anxiety and so on. But I also noticed three major things: 1. All of his saying are profoundly abstract, lacking some clarity. Words like love, intelligence, loneliness etc, in this context, can have many different meanings. I can see all of us embarking ego trips believing we are operating from this intelligence. 2. He never answers anything directly. Saying that we must know for ourselves creates the paradox that our knowing may very well be just more... delusion. Come on, who can truly, in daily life, get to a state of attention with no trace of will? 3. Do you know someone who has had a deep change through what he says? A change that lasts, someone beyond image making? Not a guru, yogi etc. Some ordinary person. Do you know any one like that? Other than that, he often times says he doesnt mind what happens. Well, with all due respect, if I had all my living guaranteed by rich people who support me I truly think I would be more comfortable with dealing with reality with a such idealistic approach, as mentioned in point 1. Here, down in the streets, it is a little less romantic than that. If someone has had a truly differente experience, please let me know. I hope we all find a way out of suffering.

  • @aw7407
    @aw7407 Жыл бұрын

    Thankyou

  • @jomk5731
    @jomk5731 Жыл бұрын

    What a fantastic question!

  • @Beiskraft
    @Beiskraft4 жыл бұрын

    I understand.

  • @manjeet564
    @manjeet5645 жыл бұрын

    🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😘

  • @phillvandersky6254
    @phillvandersky625410 ай бұрын

    Never leave a thought alone. Always look beneath its surface for emotion because thought itself is a dead and cynical judgment of living reality.

  • @bhoot786
    @bhoot7862 жыл бұрын

    🙏🌹

  • @gsalemi1954
    @gsalemi195410 күн бұрын

    Imagination is the birth of change. It is the reason we are not living in caves. Is it necessary? No, it is vital. One can be aware of imagination as one can be aware of thought and images. Artists are not the only individuals who use imagination. Parents, teachers, engineers, factory workers… everyone can and do use imagination to greatly improve the lives of all of us. Awareness is still possible. I believe K sees imagination as more like creativity. Is creativity and imagination the same? Creating an image and using it to support thought is neither creative or imagination. Words are not our friends here. Perhaps imagination and pornography share a quality. I’m not sure how to define imagination specifically but I know it when I see it.

  • @elvuelodelaguila.5532
    @elvuelodelaguila.55322 жыл бұрын

    🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

  • @MarcoLLucas
    @MarcoLLucas5 жыл бұрын

    what a nice shirt!

  • @renno0301
    @renno03013 жыл бұрын

    If one pays close attention they can almost see the logical line of thoughts constructed as the speaker inquires into the question.

  • @vvsc16
    @vvsc164 жыл бұрын

    In one sentence, k says that complete attention or choice less awareness without thought or imagination is necessary for knowing oneself inwardly or psychologically which will result in right action when dealing with fellow humans and attention with addition of thought, knowledge, imagination can be involved in knowing external affairs such as science or art which will result in discovery or creation in those fields Complete attention without involvement of thought or imagination for knowing - internal self and hence dealing with living beings Attention followed by application and thought may or may not be used for knowing - external such as arts and science

  • @Qworld00
    @Qworld003 жыл бұрын

    @ 24:50: To know myself would require me to make a static image of myself based on the ever changing content of my consciousness. I define myself as a static image out of that content which is a constant movement appearing in my awareness moment to moment. As I defined myself so I defined the others. Myself, the others and everything that appears or is perceived within my consciousness is the content of my consciousness and nothing else. What value would you assign to that contradictory and dualistic content gathered out of various past experiences?

  • @19grand
    @19grand8 жыл бұрын

    So to know yourself, study yourself, or observe yourself is not about writing down everything and taking lots of photos of yourself. The accumulation of knowledge of yourself. Well now, where and how do I start?

  • @otonjoga

    @otonjoga

    8 жыл бұрын

    +19grand Me, in my humble practicing discovered something very useful, we as humans, identify ourselfs with our face and name, when i try to practice what Krishamurti is teaching in all his vídeos, about excluding all i know about myself, i think about my name, and my face, my expression. and in every situation i think: "What would Oton(my name) do?," "How would Oton react?", "I'm Oton?" Always visualizing my face in front of me, as if the REAL self, is trying to differentiante what i believe to be "me" what i really am, without all my past, all my knowledge, everything my mom and dad teached me, everything even Krishnamurti teached, and every feeling that pass through me. Always questioning and trying to erase what i think is Oton. And i think i'm reaching someplaces, i need to refine this, but i'm sharing what i discovered! :D I don't know if i was clear there, english is not my main language!

  • @19grand

    @19grand

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Khozz Plays thank you for sharing this with me. I am glad is working for you. it has given me something to think about!

  • @19grand

    @19grand

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Taning chants Thank-you :)

  • @MatheusOliveira-rs4uj

    @MatheusOliveira-rs4uj

    7 жыл бұрын

    19grand, I don't know if you have stumbled upon an answer so far, if you haven't, I think it would be of some help if I pointed out a few things I learned with -not from- K. You are the world. And that means you need no authority to present you the world or the way things are. 'But then there's no need hearing K's words?' There wouldn't be if we were not so conditioned since birth by our parents,society etc. K never proposed a method(which requires the figure of a authority), rather he pointed out the disfunctional workings of the conditioned mind. And by understanding that a habit is poisonous, you drop it. The difficult point is letting understanding happen without thought. Note that if you observe with the slightest concept of becoming better, of changing, of dropping anything, of evolving etc there you are back in thought again, thus the state of 'not-knowing' treated in this video. If you observe any conditioning with the urge to modify it, you are trying to condition a conditioning.Then you are feeding thought over and over again. If you truly observe, in a calm, relaxed way, every action of yours-your desires,dialogs, impulses, fears etc- in your day to day living - at the bus station, school, work, sex, walking etc- you will start noticing that thought appears in your mind without your participation, it has its own momentum, for it is like a giant wheel that you've set in motion since you started thinking... There is nothing supernatural in what K points out. It's rather biological. Watch out for traps as the idea of transcending, of spiritual ascension, of god, of being pure,saint an etc.

  • @RaviPp521114

    @RaviPp521114

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MatheusOliveira-rs4uj oh dear , that sounds almost a JK emphasising. Love this state of perception as an art, keeping everything in its proper place... thank you friend !

  • @lumberjim
    @lumberjim5 жыл бұрын

    It seems to come down to.... You are awareness. Awareness is complete attention. You are attention. So to answer the question. (as I see it) ... It may be possible... But to live in the real world, it would be impractical. We construct ourselves as a matter of convenience, or pragmatism. It's useful and efficient to let our personas handle the daily movements. Being able to release it and come from attention when needed is also key. As in all things, the harmony is most important.

  • @RaviPp521114

    @RaviPp521114

    4 жыл бұрын

    where is the two world ?

  • @lumberjim

    @lumberjim

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@RaviPp521114 how do you mean, World?

  • @RaviPp521114

    @RaviPp521114

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@lumberjim sir, what we ordinary men perceive is only a limited version of the reality. A realised soul see the limitations of the world. JK has seen the real things and he is directing others to see the real. he tells "you are the world" did you get the implication of the statement? Everybody acts from the limit of each ones perception. If you do not accumulate psychological knowledge based on conditioning, one could see the reality as a newborn sees ! see you dear.

  • @lumberjim

    @lumberjim

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@RaviPp521114 I understand your point now, thanks. My point was that it isn't practical to abide in that state of New born-ness in daily life. Which is what I meant by Real World.

  • @RaviPp521114

    @RaviPp521114

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@lumberjim And the evidence of awareness is that the realised is not prone to worldly sorrows. for they know that sorrow is a punishment for those who go after unreal things prompted by individual fulfilment. They are simply compassionate and feel for the world as a whole entity.

  • @goodreason6462
    @goodreason64627 жыл бұрын

    22:37

  • @LostSoulAscension
    @LostSoulAscension3 жыл бұрын

    To be aware of what goes on in the world requires imagination, but if he means the world in terms of what I can see simply in front of me, within view, then that makes sense. But to me, it seems to perceive what is does not have any life at all without the imagination. Choiceless awareness, is of itself being, but where does one say imagination is not participating in that choicelessness, or the awareness of that suchness?

  • @19grand
    @19grand8 жыл бұрын

    The oaks are beautiful BTW.

  • @leonfmr
    @leonfmr8 жыл бұрын

    Hi, thanks for the videos Is there a transcript for this video?

  • @KFoundation

    @KFoundation

    8 жыл бұрын

    Hi Leon, here's the transcript - in two comments as it was too long for a single one. 1st Question: Imagination and words are the tools that man uses to function in daily life. Is it really possible to achieve an attention so constant, and alert, that one can always see the fine line between the necessary use of thought and where images lead to illusion and conflict? I hope this question is not too intellectual and is applicable to our life. Why does one create images about others, about oneself, have images about others and about oneself, and images that we worship, the symbols that we think are sacred, the whole network of philosophical construction of words, ideas and ideals and so on? Why do we always create images? I do not know if one realises what an important part images have played in our lives. The temples are filled with them, the churches, the mosques. In the Islamic world the mosque has no images, but beautiful writing, which is a symbol of the same thing. So why does man create images either by the hand, or by the mind, by the brain? And the questioner wants to know, is it really possible to achieve an attention so constant and alert that one can always see the fine line between the necessary use of thought and where images lead to illusion and conflict. Do we understand the question? (Pause) I am not quite sure I understand it myself. I am glad such a question is put. You see we always use words to communicate. There are many means of communication with each other: through words, through a gesture, through a look, through a slight movement of the head; there is always this communication going on either through words and so on. And words have played an extraordinary part in our lives. First of all, is there thought without words, without images, without constructing symbols? Is there a thought without words and so on? You understand my question? Or words are part of thought? And if one observes our whole mode of thinking is a network of words, symbols, ideas. Right? Are we moving together? And what is the division, the questioner asks, between thought, the necessary use of thought, the necessary use of knowledge, skill born of knowledge, and the line between that and the image-making that leads to various forms of illusions and conflict. Are we understanding the question together? The question seems rather difficult, doesn’t it? Are we asking where is the line between thought and the action of images, symbols? Are we asking what part imagination plays in life? Is not imagination necessary? I am investigating the question. Is not the capacity to imagine the beauty of the hills as a painter, as a poet, with their extraordinary capacity to imagine and put into words, or the painter and so on, is not imagination necessary? And does imagination play a part in our daily life? And if it does, is that imagination, put together by thought, a tool which we can use skilfully? You are following? Right? Is it too cold? All right? A poet, a writer, a painter, a sculptor and so on, they must have imagination, otherwise they can’t write, but is imagination necessary in our life, daily life? Or imagination prevents, or fancy prevents the actual perception of what is going on? You understand? Is it not more important to understand what actually is going on in our daily life without all the imaginative, idealistic suppositions, ‘ifs’ and ‘whens’, actually observe what is going on. Isn’t that far more important than having great imagination? If one can observe attentively what is going on, then that very attention throws a light on ‘what is’. Right? Throws a light on ‘what is’, and that light of attention clarifies the problem. Right? Are we meeting, are we thinking together about this, reasoning together? Not accepting what the speaker says, but actually reasoning together to see what place has imagination and where that imagination brings about illusion, which prevents actual understanding of ‘what is’. Is this clear? I am afraid - suppose - and I imagine a state of mind when there is no fear. That imagination becomes very important for me because it offers an escape from actual fear. I live in that. Living in that imagination is an illusion, not actual. And that capacity to imagine some state of mind, or heart, when there is absolutely no fear, it gives me a certain sense of vitality, a certain neurosis, a certain fanciful way of living which is not actual. So perhaps such imagination prevents me from looking directly at fear. And looking at it with complete attention reveals the whole nature of fear. And from that understanding of that attention fear begins to disappear. But if I have imagination about a state of mind, a state of heart, where there is absolutely a delightful state where there is no fear, I am a bit loony! (Laughter) So imagination has a certain value for the poets, artists, for the artists, but art - really art means to place everything in the right place. That’s the true meaning of that word ‘art’: to put everything in its proper place. But the poets, the painters and the artists lead a pretty hectic life, a life of conflict. You know all that goes on with those artists, the great and the so-called artists. So we are concerned with life, in our daily life. And the questioner asks, is it really possible to achieve an attention so constant and alert, that one can always see the fine line between the necessary use of thought and where images lead to illusion? You understand now the question? Right? Do we understand the question? Where to draw the line between the necessary use of thought and where images lead to conflict and illusion. And is it possible to sustain a constant state of attention, alertness, where thought has its place, which is skill, born of knowledge as a carpenter, plumber, scientist, and a state of mind that is constantly in total attention. That’s the question. Right?

  • @KFoundation

    @KFoundation

    8 жыл бұрын

    So we have to enquire what it is to be aware. We will go into it slowly and come to the point, what it means to be completely attentive. Are we ever aware, not only of what is going on in the world but also what is going on inwardly, aware? That is, are we aware, as we sit here, of the trees, the nature of the limbs - the boughs, the beauty of it, are we aware of the hills, the mountains, the slopes, all that? And that is perhaps fairly easy. But are we also aware of what is going on inwardly - our thoughts, our feelings, our peculiar attitude towards life, convictions? And if we are aware can we be aware without any choice? Are we following each other? To look, to observe, without any choice. Right? Is that possible? It is possible only when we understand how choice has become very important in life. Choice of profession, choice of jobs, choice of so-called woman, man - choice, choosing, choice of so many things. We choose between this material and that material. So choice plays a great part in our life. That’s clear, obviously. A better tailor, better shirt (laughs) - you follow? - the whole business of it. Choice at a certain level is necessary, between a good car and bad car. But when there is choice psychologically, inwardly, does it not indicate confusion? Please look at it for a moment. If there is clarity there is no choice. Right? I wonder if you see that. It’s only when we are confused, uncertain, we begin to choose. Right? Isn’t this logical? But is it very difficult to be clear? Clarity, not about politics and politicians and all that business, but inwardly to be so absolutely clear so that your action is never born out of confusion, out of choice. Is that at all possible? And we are saying that is only possible when thought finds its own right place. Right? Are you following all this? Right place in the sense, I must know how to drive a car. Knowledge is necessary in order to speak English, French, or Spanish or Italian. Or if there is to be a career I must have knowledge about it. There knowledge is absolutely necessary. And psychologically we feel knowledge is also necessary. To know somebody, to know your wife or your husband - to know. So can you know ever about your wife or your husband? You cannot know a living thing. Right? I wonder if you understand all this. So psychologically when we say, ‘I must know myself’ - please understand this a bit - when we say, I must know myself, one means by it I must accumulate knowledge about myself. Right? Which is the same as the other. Right? To become a good carpenter - I prefer to be a carpenter rather than a professional, scientist, and big shots - to be a good carpenter I must know a great deal about wood, tools and so on; and I carry the same mentality when I say, ‘I must know myself’, which means I must gather a lot of information about myself. Right? Are you following this? So that I can act rightly, or skilfully, or whatever it is. So can I know myself ever completely according to knowledge? You follow this? Or ‘myself’ is so subtle, so constantly changing, moving, acting, it is never the same? Right? But I would like it to be always the same. I wonder if you are following all this. So I create an image about myself which is static and I act according to that. So knowing oneself is not accumulating knowledge about oneself, but to be aware of what is happening with all, complete attention so that there is no accumulation of knowledge about myself but the movement of myself. You understand? Are we understanding each other? I want to know myself, which is very important. The ancient Greeks talked about it, the ancient Hindus also went into it, the Buddhists, but the religious world of the western world, hasn’t gone into this question of ‘know yourself’. They have talked about it but they haven’t gone very deeply into it. Now we have tried to know about ourselves according to some philosophers, some analysts, psychologists and so on, so we are learning about ourselves from others. Whereas the others are ourselves. You understand? I wonder if you see this. Vous avez compris? Bien? So to know myself, I can only observe it in my relationship to another. There, I perceive all my reactions - right? - all my desires, all my conflicts, I perceive it there. Relationship acts as a mirror in which I see myself actually as I am. If we make that mirror a thing which becomes merely image, imagery - you understand? - then it leads to illusion. So can one be aware of oneself without any choice, and that awareness moves into attention when there is no border, when there is no limited perception - me watching. You understand? I wonder if you understand all this. Has one ever given attention, complete attention to anything? Now, are you now listening to this speaker, poor chap, are you giving complete attention to what you are hearing? And if you so give your complete attention, which means you hear the word, you understand the fullness of the meaning of that word, and the word is not important but the meaning and the content of the word and giving your complete attention, with your nerves, with your ears, with your eyes, with all your energy, then you will see, if you do, there is no ‘me’ attending. There is no centre from which you are attending, only there is attention. Have you… Understand? So it is only there can be constant alertness and attention when one has really understood very, very deeply the nature of thought - which we have explained a dozen times. Sorry to have taken half an hour over this question.

  • @leonfmr

    @leonfmr

    8 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much!

  • @dr.anjanidixitsengar7299

    @dr.anjanidixitsengar7299

    6 жыл бұрын

    J. Krishnamurti - Official Channel thank you

  • @anejaG55

    @anejaG55

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @vcdrift
    @vcdrift3 жыл бұрын

    Is there someone who is willing to give the English transcript/subtitle for this video? Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @KFoundation

    @KFoundation

    3 жыл бұрын

    The full-length video from which this extract was taken has subtitles: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kYKWyM-iprzUfdo.html

  • @ayushbasnet9856

    @ayushbasnet9856

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KFoundation There are many flaws in the subtitle please do reconsider it otherwise those who do not understand english will have difficulty to get the point

  • @winfredj9820
    @winfredj9820 Жыл бұрын

    too deep

  • @markbrad123
    @markbrad1238 жыл бұрын

    Thought or cognition can be made as light as ghosts or can be non verbal.

  • @markbrad123

    @markbrad123

    7 жыл бұрын

    ***** No deduction is necessary as you can just use pure observation. However, you could therefore deduce your are not upset by usually disturbing subjects as proof. If you breath out through the feel of thoughts (whilst it is in the head) you will directly notice they become lighter and loose any emotional weight. Regarding non-verbal. If you are driving a bike or car you may notice how you are thinking non verbally. If you use body language(eg point a direction) a non verbal pattern is also present. Non verbal temporary arisings can be deduced as present in that you didn't think yet functioned.

  • @markbrad123

    @markbrad123

    7 жыл бұрын

    ***** You try too hard and over-complicate.

  • @markbrad123

    @markbrad123

    7 жыл бұрын

    ***** Really a five year old could work it out - go figure. Instead you put words on top of words and abstract into unconsciousness. Simply be aware of what is functionally discernible and use that..Pure observation has never seen the edge of the world has it ? LOL, If you wish to waste your time being superfluously over analytical you could see a nutty professor with a brain scanner. It wouldn't be practical though to carry a brain scanner around with you would it ?

  • @markbrad123

    @markbrad123

    7 жыл бұрын

    ***** Psychiatrists are quacks who feed on people's self delusion.with their own illusions. How can a self deluded person help a self deluded person ?

  • @markbrad123

    @markbrad123

    7 жыл бұрын

    ***** OK, maybe a bit of an over-generalization on my part.

  • @SaveManWoman
    @SaveManWoman5 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately you missed the quintessential of it. Imagination of 99% of human is leading back to their demise. In pure attention imagination has no place. The body becomes one with all that is which gives real inward understanding of the object meaning rather than creating it. It’s effortless understanding without the brain grasping but rather it’s present.

  • @deszi4444

    @deszi4444

    2 жыл бұрын

    So then a sage can't be an artist?

  • @phillvandersky6254
    @phillvandersky625410 ай бұрын

    The brain stimulates the will of the body. Mind stimulates the intention of the soul. Consciousness stimulates the emotion of the spirit.

  • @stephenwilson9872
    @stephenwilson9872Ай бұрын

    Nothing is. All. In.

  • @SandeepSingh-gn4dn
    @SandeepSingh-gn4dn3 жыл бұрын

    Those birds chirping must have been dead by now

  • @ph7467
    @ph74673 жыл бұрын

    What really annoys me with Krishnamurti is that he doesn't accept the "fact" that we are social beings: we intrinsically depend on others. However, all his talks are rooted in questioning oneself. But if everyone would follow Krishnamurti, everyone would leave desire, attachment, then be single and that would be the end of humanity. This is strange... I have been thinking of that for quite a long time, do I misunderstand?

  • @jonisonline09

    @jonisonline09

    3 жыл бұрын

    unless i am misunderstanding, yes you are misunderstanding

  • @zackz4330

    @zackz4330

    3 жыл бұрын

    K says "you are the world", the human beings are united one. it is opposite to isolating oneself from others which is the ordinary way of thinking

  • @kamalhalder4106

    @kamalhalder4106

    2 жыл бұрын

    K sees all thing as 'I' so he cant separate us from him.so to him its not a fact(we are separate) but if we(with our conditioned mind) think like K then our conditioned mind hides under everything.it doesnot vanish rather hides.

  • @angelasiegfried-rossi5034

    @angelasiegfried-rossi5034

    Жыл бұрын

    Secondo me K. DICE E SI RIFERISCE AGLI ATTACCAMENTI PASSIONI PIACERI DESIDERI ECC. PSICOLOGICI. DI CON DINZIONAMENTI PSICO,LOGICI CHE CON DIZIONANO INCONSAPEVOLMENTE LA NOSTRA PSICHE ..E IL NOSTRO MODO DI ESSERE ....QUANDO L'UOMO CONOSCHE VERAMENTE SE STESSO E NE E' CONSAPEVOLE ,ALLORA IL SUO MODO DI VITA CAMBIA SENZA SFORZI , ENON SI OCCUPA PIU SE IL TUTTO E' SOCIALE O NO PERCHE TUTTO SCORRE CON L A VITA INTORNO A NOI E CI SENTIAAMO NON SEPARATI DA NULLA E DA NESSUNO ....SIAMO UNA COSCIENZA CO SAPEVOLE DI ESSERLO . QUSTO FATTO NEL MOMENTO NON VIENE PERCEPITO ED E' LA CAUSA DI DIVISIONE

  • @krox477

    @krox477

    Жыл бұрын

    I think you have to consider the time he was giving those talks world was not that free at that time

  • @stephenwilson9872
    @stephenwilson9872Ай бұрын

    I think. Not logical. Sustain

  • @janklaas6885
    @janklaas68852 жыл бұрын

    🇺🇳19:37

  • @e.t.464
    @e.t.4645 жыл бұрын

    Is every tree beautiful? If so… Why call one beautiful?

  • @mikewright902

    @mikewright902

    4 жыл бұрын

    Because it itself is beautiful ,it has its place and by itself it has its own Beauty. There is a lot of Beauty in something that has order!!!😀 we cannot separate ourselves from nature!! We see what we want to see we don't actually see what's there he saying !!

  • @RaviPp521114

    @RaviPp521114

    4 жыл бұрын

    here is no other in krishnas world of perception !

  • @krox477

    @krox477

    Жыл бұрын

    Because the word beautiful is not that tree

  • @johncletus9529
    @johncletus95293 жыл бұрын

    Faith changes everything, all philosophies are never practical.

  • @iamtimeblind2360
    @iamtimeblind23606 жыл бұрын

    this isn't real

  • @anejaG55

    @anejaG55

    4 жыл бұрын

    IAmTiMeBLiNd nothing is real

  • @Magnet12
    @Magnet123 жыл бұрын

    19:30