My depression is chemical. I struggled for years after being born again. Christians told me it was wrong. I felt so guilty. So I took myself off all medications with out the Holy Spirits guidance. Until I finally came to the realization that unless God physically heals me I need to take care of my well being. I am a mother and wife. Being off my medication stunted my growth spiritually, mentally, and physically every single day in every single area of my life. Thank you so much for your comfort.

Depression is a sickness. Christians also get sick. Sometimes medication helps. I’ve been a believer my whole life and have struggled with debilitating depression. When I finally admitted I had depression, I tried everything. The only thing that worked for me was medication, which I have taken now everyday for years with very positive results.

@evasj

2 жыл бұрын

I also finally admitted that I had depression, and will have a talk to my doctor in a few days. Can I please ask you, what kind of (name) medicin you take?

@Mark-cj9ju

2 жыл бұрын

I’m at the crossroads right now. Apparently I have anxiety instances that don’t happen often but when they do it’s hard to get through the day. This is something new not having this before. The doctor prescribed an antidepressant for the anxiety. I’m struggling on wether to take it or not and does that mean my faith isn’t strong?

@janelouise4961

Жыл бұрын

God bless you 🙏🏼❤️

@KH-hc6sy

Жыл бұрын

I finally tried believing I have depression because EVERYONE was telling me to see a doctor. And every doctor suggested medication to me since 15..... WHAT A MESS. It only created more issues for me. And self doubt that I was doing okay. People said I was too sensitive. And my reactions aren't normal. And that this is life and to accept it when things don't work out. And other people have it worse. It devalued my pain and I tried masking it. I decided to go against everything people have told me. There is nothing wrong with me. Yes I get stressed sometimes and have a hard time managing my emotions. But everyday I grow stronger. I let myself cry. I let myself get mad. If I have to, I will go to the woods and throw things and break tree branches and hit the trees. This world is not easy and we should not pretend it is. It sucks sometimes. I am 26 now, and it took me 11 years to get away from that crap. Because when you start it, you feel crappy. When you aren't consistent with it. You feel crappy. When you switch medications. You feel crappy. When you get used to the medication, you feel crappy. Then I realized. STOP THE CYCLE. Find people who accept you for who you are. Stop listening to my famiIy. Just because I love them doesn't mean they know what's best for me. Only you know your journey with Gods guidance. I am not shaming your jouney. We all have freedom of choice. I am just thankful I have finally learned what is best for me

@ayaalarilla8143

Жыл бұрын

I agree

Just remember that some cases of depression aren't situational, sometimes they last for years or the persons entire life. Mental illness runs in my family. Almost everyone in my family has different forms of it. I'm in my 30s and have been dealing with depression and anxiety since I was a teenager. I will more than likely be taking medicine my entire life. I have tried going without it before and that leads to me laying in bed, being suicidal, mood swings, being unable to be in crowds so I cant go out in public etc. Without medicine I wouldn't be able to function. I totally agree that many times people are given medication too quickly, but I just wish more Christians would understand that not all mental illness will change by praying harder or going to church more, sometimes it's just a cross we always have to carry.

@karenb3662

2 жыл бұрын

These testimonies are so helpful. I don’t think anyone who hasn’t experienced it can speak on depression. I other think that if I trusted God more I wouldn’t go through these physical assaults. I don’t like taking meds but my body needs relief. I pray I’m doing the right thing before God

@GabrielofAdonai

Жыл бұрын

I struggle with Schizaffective disorder. and my pastor gave me terrible advice. told me the medicine was sorcery. But God created everything, including medicine. I needed to read your comment.

@xxxriplex5265

Жыл бұрын

After many years on many depression and bi-polar medications I can positively say that these traditional medicines can cause someone to be worse off after taking them. I mean when you don't take them you are worse off then before you began taking them initially.Pharmaceuticals are no good. Natural plant medicines are much more beneficial. I am so blessed to have been weened off of them.

@bathshebamills4360

Жыл бұрын

​@@GabrielofAdonai I have to disagree with your statement that Yahweh created medicine, He did not. Man created the pharmaceuticals which equals pharmakeia which equals sorcery. Drugs, whether legal or illegal. They poison our systems, they do not heal us (only Yahweh heals) and when we take them we have the problem of.......for every action there is a reaction. I have witnessed this with many people over the years, sadly most are dead to legal drug taking at the hands of legal drug dealers, the doctors. The pharmaceutical industry is worth billions of dollars. Yahweh isn't about billion dollar industries that wreck peoples lives. They ( the big pharma) are corrupt and they have their own agenda. Yahweh made the herbs for mans healing, and they work just as He designed them too, Praise His name.

I’ve tried eating clean and working out for over a year now, I went to my doctor to see if I had any problems or was deficient in anything, I take my vitamins and I try to spend time outdoors, but nothing is working. I’ve had mental illness my whole life and now I’m considering taking anti depressants. I just want to have a better chance at living a better life

I caught whooping cough when I was a ten week old baby, as a result I have been left with a lung condition called Bronchiectasis. I have had chest infections regularly throughout my life, and pneumonia too. So, am I wrong in taking Antibiotics as and when necessary??? No!!! So, why should people worry about taking Antidepressants??? Yes we are spiritual beings, and we have a wonderful, wonderful Saviour, there's nothing to fear! God bless 🙏🙏🙏

Brothers and sisters, I want to add that I used to be depressed and anxious for no reason even in really happy moments and thought “ why can’t I enjoy anything even the good?” I took meds and they only made things worse. I later found out I had a severe vitamin deficiency in D3 (something you can buy at Walmart) I began taking them daily and my life completely changed! Sometimes something so small can be a big problem. So I want to ask you to look into this. Maybe your deficiency is in a different vitamin. I completely stopped taking meds after this.

@Zak21d007

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe meds maybe not meds. Maybe vitamins? Makes me think that there may also be other remedies as well. Friendship being one.

@jenniferroland350

2 жыл бұрын

Yes you are indeed correct. Vitamin D3 is a big help for many many people. I too take this. Ironically it is also said to help in fighting the coronavirus. You are less likely to become sick if you take this supplement. Anti anxiety medication did help me tremendously. Everyone is different. I am so happy that this worker for you brother. May God Bless you with much love and many grades. 🙏🏻 ♥️

@VirginPride

2 жыл бұрын

Good! But don't take them when your stomach is empty.

@hidden_inchrist

2 жыл бұрын

I've tried this as well and doesn't seem to make a difference. I keep taking them just because i work remotely inside all the time, but not sure they do anything for my depression unfortunately

@RUSrocket21

2 жыл бұрын

@@hidden_inchrist I truly feel for you. I wish I could provide you with information or advice but I’m sure you’ve tried a lot and heard it all. However, I will add you to my prayer list and will commit to it. There is a light at the end of your tunnel. The tunnel has a turn ahead and before you make that turn you can’t see the light in the distance. But you must keep going! Without fear! And one day you will begin to see that light and you will have greater hope and know that your tunnel journey is was not in vain!

Thank you, thank you. Now I can stop feeling so guilty and spend that energy on doing what Jesus asked us... Oh, thank you so much

I love how he says they can be a physical stabilizer to be able to do the work of the Lord 🙏🏽 I've struggled with taking antidepressants my whole life, I've gone off and on them and it's been a disservice to myself. This time around I'm seeking help from the medial community and the Christian community to deal with depression I find myself in. I'm trusting in the LORD GOD in it all 💜His Sovereignty brings me peace in the storm 🙋🏽‍♀️

@jennifer2419

Жыл бұрын

Maybe us as Christians are depressed because we live in a fallen world and just feel so much sadness because we aren’t supposed to be here🤷‍♀️

@pumpkin1982

9 ай бұрын

I feel you. It’s tough, but it’s imperative that we keep going. Regardless how you feel you are safe in Christ. The world is such a distraction to the reality of Christ. We need to fill our minds with Him more than this world.

@TrishC5280

9 ай бұрын

My trust is in the LORD and Him Alone 🙏🏽💜

I was a Christian who was depressed and even hospitalized. I was told I would need to be on medications forever. In hindsight I was starving myself spiritually and not acknowledging God. My paths were not straight. My mind was not right because I was just stewing in worry and fear. It has now been 15 years since I have had any issues. Now I seek God voraciously- and I get enough sleep!!

@betht7591

29 күн бұрын

Do you take antidepressant drugs??? If you do, it is a sin.

@jannaswanson271

29 күн бұрын

@@betht7591 I would not go so far as to call it a sin but if someone is depressed that person does not understand the promises of Yahuah or they are walking in their flesh. Taking drugs for it goes even deeper in that they are trusting man for healing instead of Yahuah. I wish that the church or even my parents had taught me that I could and should walk by faith. I wish I had known then how much Yahuah loves me and that following His commandments would lead to Life!

@betht7591

29 күн бұрын

​​@@jannaswanson271. Regret and wishing things on your past is sinful. As long as you asked for forgiveness, move on. You can't change what has been done. Be greatful you learned. Many don't and end up not repenting and end up falling into sin and go to hell. Jesus is Lord.

@jannaswanson271

29 күн бұрын

@@betht7591 I do not regret the things in my past. It all has helped me to cling to Yahuah and believe His Word all the more.

@betht7591

29 күн бұрын

You used the word wished. Wishing is regret. Did you mean something else?

I felt guilty, it was my secret with God, I spent many years fighting and smiling at the world but in my loneliness I cried for God to help me. I went to the doctor because I could no longer continue like this, I am weak and I love God I believe in his power and now I am better with help but my trust is still in God

Medication helps with physical symptoms, God heals your spirit. I have ADHD and it's clear to me that I can't maintain my focus without my meds. It effects my relationships, work and my own mental well being. I know now that God is ok with treating our physical needs while still relying on him for my spiritual needs. I don't need meds to make me feel better. God makes me whole.

My 'depression' is so obviously CHEMICALLY based rather than situational. The medication allows me to look at my life in a rational, reasonable way - it is like taking three steps back from the mirror and looking at myself as a whole, not just the pimple on my nose. It is the same as taking insulin for diabetes - it does not remove the problem it allows me to look to the base cause

@StallionFernando

3 жыл бұрын

Yes but you're most likely gonna develop an addiction to your so called medication. I've suffered with bipolar and depression for over 10 years now but chose not to take medication.

@rogercolon619

2 жыл бұрын

@@StallionFernando medical marijuana is proving to be the best antidepressant ever, and I'm not talking about getting stupid high either, in a controlled manner marijuana has basically no side effects

@StallionFernando

2 жыл бұрын

@@rogercolon619 fake news, I've had plenty of friends who smoke and alot of them have depressions, hiding a mental illness is not the same thing as curing, that's what I tried to use alcohol for. Once your forced to be sober you find yourself back in the pit. An it does have side affects, particularly memory issues, you have no idea how forgetful stoners are, they just don't rralize, having worked with plenty of them I can say that most are lazy AF, and all of them say they work harder and better when they're high at work. Maybe in their lala land it's true but not from the outside perspective. Very few people have I come across that can actually maintain competence and be able to do their job properly to the point that they take dabs throughout the shift and still somehow appear as if they are sober. But again most simply don't fall into that category.

@RockyTop85

2 жыл бұрын

@@StallionFernando that’s just not accurate

@rebeccadupak1514

Жыл бұрын

Guess we are imperfect.

Before answering this question one has to recognize there are two types of depression. One type of depression is exogenous, brought by external causes ( like death of spouse or family member, or illness, or loss of job or loss of freedom, and so on ). The other type of depression is endogenous, depression "without reason", which is considered as a from of mental disease, most likely due to hormonal and brain neuro transmitters "imbalance". Some people have depressive personality, again that would be the result of genetic makeup. Exogenous depression does not need meds ( need more God ), endogenous depression might be controlled by meds although never can be cured, only controlled.

@theminisimmer

2 жыл бұрын

Depression can also be caused by a secondry mental illness. I have the symptoms of a personality disorder, and what comes with it are cases of anxiety and depression.

@pessoafail

Жыл бұрын

I suffer with Bipolar Depression. I’m a Christian since my first memories. I tried to kill myself in hopes of ending my pain (I was abused by a family member). I literally thought thee only comfort I could have would be by dying and hoping God would have mercy on me. In the end, He did--He sent help. I got away from my abuser. I was diagnosed with ADHD and started taking antidepressants and ADHD meds. Suicide thoughts were gone--It was an almost instantaneous effect. Depression got better with therapy. And I know God delivered all that. He saved my life by allowing me the access to proper treatment.

It's not an "unthinking yes" to say, If you need it, you need it. Should Christians go to the emergency room when they get those crushing chest pains radiating out to the left arm, or should they rebuke the spirit of myocardial infarction? It's a tough call.

@JD27770

2 жыл бұрын

I think his point is to first pray and consider if something else is wrong such as our spiritual life, sleep, diet, etc. but then yes if you need it, then you need it. But the same doesn’t really apply to a heart attack or most other health concerns

Please I would like to emphasise that you don’t just take antidepressants and Bob’s your uncle. Depression requires a holistic approach that may include physical therapy counselling education diet and exercise.

@maxinerobb5942

2 жыл бұрын

I have suffered with depression for many years. I am a Christian and i do take medication. My depression came about when i was sexually abused. I could say why did God allow this to happen to me, but i know we live in a fallen world. I have had counselling, i exercise regularly, watch what i eat and for the most part I'm doing well. Taking medication alone doesn't help you have to get to the route of the problem in my case abuse sexually, emotionally and physically from both parents. The whole person needs to be treated we are more than spirit.

Thank you for your compassion!

Many childhood traumas manifest as anxiety and depression in Adulthood, plus those traumas affect how interrelationships with others work. Sometimes the medications may be needed for a short time to re align chemical imbalances, or to bring one to a point where we can again move forward. Some types of depression need medications longterm because they are caused by biological/chemical imbalances that can be life-threatening (bi polar, clinical depression ongoing). None of these medications stop one's faith, or stop one from pursuing Christian support, prayer, Bible reading etc. One doesn't discourage a person with high blood pressure from taking their medications because they are Christian, the brain is the same.

This was so wonderfully well handled! Very well handled bless you, brother!

Spot on teaching. As a former pharmacy technician for 12 years, I saw many, many patients on depression/anxiety meds and got to more closely acquainted with some. The nonbelievers in general seemed to have ongoing lack of total resolution because of their sole reliance on the meds. Believers, which weren't as many percentage wise, seemed more satisfied and generally didn't have as long a duration of therapy. There are believers who have ongoing depression/anxiety issues I am convinced are linked with ongoing spiritual ones. It truly is as Dr. Pierre states. Just saying.

@victorrene3852

3 жыл бұрын

Very interesting. Thank you for your insight.

@angramp3430

3 жыл бұрын

I can understand this. I'm on an antidepressant because the physical aspects of anxiety are awful. They help me to live a normal life but do not in any way solve my problem of anxiety. Trusting in God with prayer and scripture is the main reason I'm able to keep anxiety under control. I know that if I had to stop antidepressants everything would be fine. God is 100% in control. I already had to wean from Klonopin. It was a 2 year process. It was not easy at all, but God was there with me every step of the way. There were times I thought I couldn't go on but God brought me through.

@JoJoDoxieMom

3 жыл бұрын

@ Pharmacy technicians input electronic prescriptions, not verbal ones. Pharmacists do that. So I honestly couldn't say on what criteria doctors prescribe. I would guess that it is strictly medical and psychological only. I am certain that they leave spiritual matters to pastors and clergy.

I am a nurse, but before I became a nurse I had anxiety. I have explored many many many avenues. I have talked to many professionals and I have read a lot of literature out there. I explored loads of self help programs, thoroughly. And I did this over the course of years not weeks or months. If you say that taking antidepressants (especially in a case where they WORK and help a person have a better quality of life) is wrong for anyone including us Christians, you obviously have not experienced true depression or anxiety on a physical level where your brain does not produce enough chemical serotonin. There are MANY chemical imbalances in the body that we call disease. Disorder. Imbalance. Our bodies are created to be at homeostasis. Specific levels of insulin, white blood count...these are detrimental to survival. Would you tell a Diabetic to just not take insulin? NO. They would die. Or at the very least suffer extreme co-morbidities. If someone has genuinely investigated their situation and medication seems to establish the proper balance in their well being, then they need those medications. Period. Thank you for continuing to bring forth good solid information and hope for people ♥️

@Jacnical

2 жыл бұрын

what did you do? thank you for the response💕

@jenniferroland350

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jacnical well I kept trying different things and if something helped and it didn’t have negative effects I worked with it. I finally began taking anti anxiety medication. I never really had a reason for anxiety. I wasn’t abused, before it started but I was always insecure etc. medication certainly helped but I also had to keep strengthening my confidence, and my faith. Faith is big for me. I do believe there are lines. For example for what I have I should never allow myself to depend on benzodiazepines to cope. They help when I’m in a very stressful situation but they’re not good for a person in regular long term use. Obviously my body doesn’t process enough Serotonin so I need to take medication to replace it. There’s no shame in that. I continuously reevaluate and it is probably something I will require my whole life and that is ok. I still have anxiety but I am able to cope and redirect myself appropriately. I am continuously surrounding myself in Christian literature, I attend mass as many times a week that I can and I do things like gardening and making rosaries when I have time for positive reinforcement. This has taken my lifetime to get where I am. It’s baby steps. You can do it. Feel free to message me and I’d be happy to tell you more or to just listen.

@jenniferroland350

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jacnical ps I will also keep you in my prayers. ♥️ I’m not sure if there’s a way to private msg but as I said if there’s anything I can help with I am only too happy to help. I feel blessed that I can take my battles and use them to help someone else. God Bless.

@cadenorris4009

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. It seems the only people that show compassion are the ones who are suffering. Everyone else is just a sideline quarterback, and they are usually quick to judge. I myself suffer from CPTSD from childhood, and I have been told to quit therapy and stop taking my medicine by the very people who should be supporting me most.

I take zoloft but I've been in the air about giving credit to anything but the father for my recovery. Its a battle I'm fighting.

What a thoughtful answer to a complicated question, thank you!

This channel is such a blessing. Thank you for your work towards God's kingdom!

This was fantastic video. Thank you

God bless you brothers in Christ. I understand now more biblically about this medication. I thank your ministry, I'm finally taking the steps towards healing. God is my refuge. I was feeling guilty for asking for help. I know now I'm in the right path to healing. Thank you for your love and compassion and I give Glory to God! He is the Doctor of Doctors!

Brilliantly answered. Thank you.

Asking this question is like asking, "do we use toothpaste to get rid of morning breath, or do we just pray it away??

I was prescribed Clonopin for generalized anxiety disorder for years. I eventually decided to quit taking them. As I started to gradually ween myself off I noticed that I I would get more out of Bible study and also felt more connected to God in my prayer life. I feel like antidepressants, especially benzodiazepines created a barrier between my mind and the Holy Spirit. Just my experience.

@thecrimsonops

9 ай бұрын

yah benzos are evil i still got 7 mounths of tapering to do lithium has bin nothing short of a mirical that God put in the earth being a element but im bipolar its a life long illness but i still pray that God will one day heal me ultimetliy all be heal when im home in heaven and get my new body

Short answer: yes But I agree we can’t be “unthinking” in our response. I tackle this question on my channel as well- it’s good to have a balanced and biblical view of the issue.

Should a Christian take antibiotics for an infection? I am by no means smarter than anyone else, and even I know the answer to this question.

@cc-cy

4 жыл бұрын

word! on point✔

@kidwave1

3 жыл бұрын

The answer is NO, there are natural substances that work even better than pharmaceutical antibiotics

@colourme777

3 жыл бұрын

@@kidwave1 lol wut

@DG-mv6zw

3 жыл бұрын

@@kidwave1 Presumably then, we should not wear spectacles when we have an opthalmic disease or condition, nor should we use anasthesia when getting dental treatment. The list is endless. (Or do you pick and choose when to accept or reject medical treatment?) 😀

@jp8871

3 жыл бұрын

@@kidwave1 so natural is better?

Thanks you so much.. I have never felt this before and I’m looking for answers for I my self I’m a Christian. Thank you

EDMR utilizing Christian Faith could be helpful for PTSD too. I totally agree with this video. Finding the root in good therapy is crucial to healing.

I think the main problem with this answer is not just whether Christians should take meds for mental illness but why they have mental illness. Yes, some people, through their thought processes combined with their inherited temperament may have caused the brain to chemically change BUT, it is not always your thought processes that trigger the mental illness. My son developed bipolar illness, not because his thoughts were messed up. It is tied to sleep or a viral trigger. It could also be trauma. It came out of the blue. He was a Christian minding his own business, not having any destructive, sinful thought patterns beyond what any growing believer would have. He was praying and in Scripture daily. College students prone to certain inherited body chemistries, not a specific gene, can trigger this with lack of sleep while studying. I am not saying that some mental illnesses can never be brought on by the behavior of the person. But for a very many, this answer is disheartening. Why not ask forgiveness for kidney failure or a broken arm? It must be a physical illness brought on by sinful thoughts. Recall the man born blind in Scripture. It was not his sin but for God’s glory. The brain is a physical organ too. It is not always our soul that has the problem but the organ. I do believe that our faith gets us through the illness if we trust our Savior to walk with us. It still is a very very rough road, and to add to it that it’s that person’s fault that the illness started is mistaken nouthetic teaching. If the person is struggling with mental illness this will bring them to the brink of despair. There are far more Christians sinning far worse sins that never have had mental illness. Since my son has psychosis with his illness, he can never go without drugs. Ever. Unless God chooses to heal him miraculously, which I pray for. So far, He has chosen not to. His will be done. Thank you for allowing feedback.

I suffer from schizophrenia I'm thankful for this video because I have struggled with the thought that if I had better faith I would get better I still believe that I believe God can do so much more than medicine but I think until I have a Divine Healing I probably very much need my medicine to live a functional life and make the people around me happier I believe God can heal and medicine can help

You're right, at first I did think well of course it's ok. I still think it's ok but now it's more counterbalanced with the origin of the problem and to seek out more spiritual means that maybe helpful also. I'm absolutely saved but was by no means rendered white as snow. I still have plenty of issues to overcome and in general I do look for help from the Lord for my problems. I just don't know what He's going to assist me with and what He's going to leave me with. The sanctification process is a tricky game for me. Thanks for the great video.

I really like the way he explains things very easy to understand.

The answer is obvious, we live in a fallen world with doctors, hospitals and medicine. Mental illness can not be seen as broken bones or plugged arteries , but it does exist and should be treated the same as any sickness.

Brilliant. My wife was diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder. Of course we understood that many things afflict humanity because of the fall in the garden of Eden. We also knew that only the Bible explains the possibility for the existence of 'personality' described in the nature of the relationship of the members of the Godhead. A unity of thought, will, and expression, God is, and God is 'personality'. So we understood that were not merely dealing with the unseen world alone, but the seen physical world as well. My wife takes the meds and our daily conversations about the what is-ness of God fills the remainder of our day. Uncertainty about most things is temporary for many of these people, and that remedy comes from the pages of the Bible. We have had many conversations with many people including academics and professional mental health workers over the years, but this video in our humble opinion is second to none. God bless, and thank you.

Loved this answer! Well done!!

I have never really gave this a lot of thought Thanks God answers

This was a very thoughtful response to a very difficult question especially in the age of man v. pharmaceuticals.

Great wisdom here. I had the privilege to take Dr. Pierre at SBTS and always found his instruction theologically rich and extremely practical.

Depression is a complex and very often misunderstood topic. There are different reasons for depression, different types and no two people's experience of it is exactly the same. There's also still a lot of stigma around it - making the sufferer feel even more isolated and wary of reaching out for help. One common misconception is that "feeling depressed" or "sad" is the same thing as having severe depression (major depression or MDD). The experience of the latter is a whole new league -- incredibly debilitating and painful on many levels; not something you'd wish on your worst enemy!! And definitely not something that people just "snap out of". I believe in the power of scripture, yes, but in order to truly help sufferers - we need also to go beyond just a general theological response/ offering good advice to sufferers to actual acts of practical help and love -- for example, spending time with sufferers and being there for them. Think of it - didn't one prophecy about Messiah talk about him healing the brokenhearted? What about his followers? Don't they do the same? Wouldn't it be great if we start to "see" a fellow suffering brother or sister from a perspective of compassion, humility and dignity -- combined with a desire to really understand their situation/affliction from all angles. Simply plucking out scriptures, as some people do, and throwing them like darts at depression sufferers can be counterproductive because it can exacerbate their feelings of shame, worthlessness, inadequacy etc. We need compassion, love, wisdom as well as knowledge. Quick to listen/learn, and slow to judge. (FYI, some people experience depression in later adult life as a result of childhood abuse/trauma.) On the subject of Antidepressants (disclosure, I'm not a medical person and not providing medical advice), I'd like to leave a few ideas/thoughts here (not exhaustive) for folk to think about/research further/test for themselves. 1. People on antidepressants (ADs) respond to anti-depressants in very different ways. Some patients swear by them and say things like "it saved my life", "it worked great for me". Others say ADs have damaged them and desperately wish they had never started taking them in the first place. (ADs can be v. difficult to withdraw from!). Sometimes, individuals find that switching from one AD (that didn't work for them) to another AD can be beneficial. But that's not always the case. 2. Given the diverse user experience once on these prescription drugs (i.e. you don't know beforehand how you'll react), people contemplating taking antidepressants MAY WANT to think of meds as a sort of last resort (after exploring other non-drug options). 3. Some doctors are of the view that ADs are overprescribed. 4. If you get an AD script from a prescriber, before taking the first pill, please read the accompanying risk leaflet and check whether you are happy to start taking them. Question your prescriber if necessary. Often, a prescriber will not talk through the potential side effects. Side effects can be severe. 5. As per medication leaflets, the initial 3-4 or even 6 weeks on an AD can be very challenging (depression symptoms can worsen during this initial period on a drug like an SSRI). This is why doctors will often say to patients - "it takes some weeks for them (the AD) to work". If they don't after that period, then doctors will sometimes suggest switching you to another medication, to find one that "works for you". Note, however, that for some people, ADs of whatever stripe simply don't ever "work" in terms of a desired beneficial outcome. 6. There are a number of non-drug, non-invasive treatments available for depression. 7. The value of support, love, Christian prayers and caring from loved ones/families for people suffering depression is incalculable. 8. For Christians struggling to come off antidepressants, a site called surviving antidepressants dot com may help. The golden rule of thumb is come off very, very gradually. There are quite a few YT videos on this topic. Bless you all.

@InHimImStrong

Жыл бұрын

Please pray for me I want to be free of medicine and pray for God’s favor and friendship and fellowship to not be alone in this world anymore. Thank you for your wonderful words. I’ve come a long way through a horse accident and I want my life back for Jesus and service. Erin

I have struggled with this, I have been on and on medication for bipolar disorder. I think its important, to understand the difference between taking medication and relying fully on that medication for help. when you're a christian, your help comes from the lord. and it is his will that meds work or not. we put our faith in him. So I am not against medication but we shouldn't be dependent on it alone but ultimately on God.

"Brains don't work how they are supposed to work" This is a great comfort 😅

Thank you so much for making this video

bearing depression is both struggling and painful. Always pray to survive it.

This was a very good video from a very good channel. Its the third good video I have found there

Thank you so much for your words.

Thank you 🙂, you know i think maybe Jonah was depressed, willing to get thrown in the sea, sleeping in the storm, asking to die a few time's 🤔 just a thought. Thanks again was very helpful 🙏

Such a well balanced answer to this question. Very helpful!

I have depression and it gets me down I also have osteoarthritis in right knee which is painful my pain is not punishment eben when i think otherwise

thank you Doc. John Paul Vallejo anie cris po

Well done, Dr. Pierre!

Great nuance here.

My daughter is 18, diagnosed bipolar and is not a Christian. Would you say the same thing about bipolar as depression?

It amazes me how radical religious beliefs can interfere with ones health regardless if it’s a mental, physical or terminal disease.

I believe we are all capable of healing....but I don't think this question can fully be addressed. Unless we can sit in the posture of a person who suffers, some worse then others and some beyond repair. In those cases it is necessary for intervention.

Excellent.

This man knows his stuff.

Wow, you are a true poet for the Kingdom for God! God bless you and thank you for this video 🙏🏼

I didn’t have to take it any more after going thru deliverance. 4 yrs off of them now

While this is a huge advance from where we have been in the past on this issue. (Old Evangelical Christian books used to basically just say "Get over it! What's wrong with you?") There is an important distinction still to be made. That distinction deals with causation. Are there psycho/spiritual realities that are causing a problem that has physiological components, or is there a physiological problem that is having psycho/spiritual effects. Which is the disorder, and which is the symptom? If a person has a psycho/spiritual disorder with physiological manifestations, medication is at best an aide to the more important treatment and could possibly get in the way of said treatment. However, if a different person has a physiological dissorder that is causing the psycho-spiritual reaction, then dealing with the physiological problems becomes primary and necessary while the psycho/spiritual complications can be dealt with secondarily. The main problem that I see in this area as regards to medical treatment is that both of the above hypothetical situations would be diagnosed with the same word: Depression. The majority of people diagnosed with depression are in a psychological rut that has become, in a sense, programmed into their biological systems. However, some people that are diagnosed with depression have the biological dissorder *previous to* any psychological "rut." The later group cannot be "cured" by "fixing their thinking." The rut is *caused by* the biological dissorder. In such cases, medical treatments are the appropriate primary treatment. Psycho/spiritual work must then be done to help the person adapt to and manage the effects of the physiological defect. There is still a risk of telling people in this category of depression sufferers that, "Medicine may help, but you really just need to get your thinking and your relationship with Christ right. That's your real problem." This is basically saying that being a Depression sufferer makes one a bad Christian and is the person's own fault. I can say from experience that this is extremely counterproductive. I have suffered from Depression symptoms literally from the cradle. I did not think myself into a rut, and I cannot think or pray myself out of it.(Though I never discount the possibilty of miraculous healing on God's part) Medical treatment manages the root cause while prayer, meditation, and therapy sooth the inevitable psycho/spiritual scars and allow me to adapt and even become a stronger and better person in the process than I would have been otherwise.

Non clinical depression is normal. We all get depressed. But even clinically diagnosed depressives may not want to go on anti depressants. Because the side effects will kick your butt and make your original depression feel like you're eating a bowl of ice cream.

What the Lord intends for good, Satan twists for evil. I believe the stigmatazation and condemnation of Christians by Christians who call medicine "sorcery"- is an example of that twisting by Satan.

Question: Since we don’t know or agree on who wrote the book of Hebrews, how can we still trust it as the inspired word of God? I’m asking this from a perspective of credibility and legitimacy. My argument is NOT that the book is false or illegitimate. Thanks!

@trustinjesusministries

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Nachosguy23 have you thought about how many books of the bible that we do know who wrote them? Most books in the bible are anonymous (they do not state within the writings who wrote them). However, the writings themself are what constitute their legitimacy. As the early church fathers read this letter there was an overwhelming consensus that what the writer was writing had the weight of authority behind it. The church saw that it followed the rule of faith (Christian orthodox truth that did not contradict with other letters or the old testament), and that it was constantly read and taught from within the churches.

Such sound Godly advice and wisdom. Thank you!!

Praise God

A simple answer would be yes it"s o,k, depending on the circumstances, and no it is not o,k, WE are a fallen creature ,to many answers sometimes just complicates the issue, Just so long you don"t get condemned, Christian, because God understands and He will not forsake you Ever .

Excellent! 🎉✅

When i was born again, God, bless His Name, healed all my emotional issues, and they were very serious ones, i suffered from all my life. I believe it's a question of how strong is your faith in God's miracles and willingness to heal. It goes for both body and soul. No one who came to Christ for help did he turn away. He healed them all. They had faith he could heal them and he did. Faith is key. Peace

@cadenorris4009

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I am very glad that you have been able to recover. Unfortunately I believe you are the exception, not the rule. Something is still missing, and I haven't found it yet. God knows I'm looking.

@peaceofmindandheart.3534

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@@cadenorris4009 Hey brother. Perservere and you will be rewarded. I am not the exception, not even close. There are countless testimonies out there of people who have experienced the supernatural healing of the Lord. I can tell you that for me it didn't happen immediately. I continued to suffer for months after giving my life to Christ. But there was one moment when i completetley let go, and placed my self entirely in his hands. I recognised that my suffering was because I had not "truly owned" my past sins. In my mind, I was a victim of the world, and if I had sinned it was because of him, and her, and them... In other words, I had not fully repented from my past sins, and this was preventing me from receiving his healing. True repentance and faith are crucial. I can not know what you are going through and how you walk with the Lord, ask for the guidance of the Holy Spirit. (I too will pray for you) Peace

@zavinovacka

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@@peaceofmindandheart.3534 thank you for your testimony I struggle with this for 7 years since I gave my life to Christ but I can't find any solution tomorrow is my appointment with a psychiatrist because I am at the end of myself and despite years of trying and pressing on God I have no solution what to do..

Luke was a Physician, that prescribed the healing remedies, of his day. John 1-3 : 1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." If God didn't want us to take medication, He wouldn't have ever created it. Besides, why are so many people fixated on Anti-depressants, when we take medications, for so many other reasons?

Quick answer yes they can/should take them. For an evidence perspective, yes they should take medication that helps them but they should also recieve theorpy (mainly cognative behavioural theorpy) and being helped by those around them, they aren't the answer but they are part of the solution and if it helps someone to not kill themselves then it is a good thing. Also a privitised healthcare system that is driven by profit doesn't help. Nor does the sigma of mental illness and mental health and how people don't want to talk about it to others (negative views of masculinity doesn't help there either as men don't want to acknowlege something that they view as weakness). But at the end of the day medicine is medicine, if we say no to this medicine why not the rest of medicine? Also this arguement raises the whole i'm only unwell because i did something wrong and i don't believe enough.

Interesting thought. Though mixed feelings about anti depressants. For me personally who suffers from constant depression anti depressant medications do not work. All they do for me is give me a drunken feeling and results in inappropriate thoughts and behaviors with no outlets.

Anyone who says no you have never known the hell of clinical depression.

@alea396

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Absolutely it's daily hell and makes you look forward to being able to die everyday. No hope no joy in anything. Just dull misery and anger about having to wake up everyday and still be here.

He is so right about our system's flaws in helping those with mental illness...those practitioners on the frontlines have so much pressure to get as many people in and out of their office as they can every day. The result, then, is throwing medications at depression as a quick fix instead of addressing the root of the problem.

For the believer might we suggest Psalm 32 as a good "prescription". Might also help if our churches stop emphasizing the emotional over the intellectual. The word of God appeals to our intellect. Teach the word.

That's like asking should a Christian take Kemo if they have cancer.

I think the most important take away is the fall of man and the damage that did to the universe and the damage lives on till today. We are imperfect beings living in an imperfect world.

Excellent thanks well spoken in layman's language

I think there's often better ways to deal with depression dwelling on the word and actions of the Lord especially his promises and his love, community, getting enough sleep, helping others, eating better, exercise, tidying, talking to friends getting a good work/life balance, going for a medical check up are all avenues I'd try first and antidepressants can often lead to even worse side effects then the ones they address.

So because of the fall as you say, " Now child birth is hard", so is it a sin to get an epidural to relieve the pain of child birth? Or maybe someone has Rheumatoid arthritis do they not seek natural medical attention?

There is so much ignorance in churches regarding this topic.I abused drugs from my late teens and when I say abused I mean all types and nearly died from them. Point is drugs are chemicals which are absorbed in the brain hence the effects different drugs provide, so I was left in such a state that words cant describe I was put on meds for depression anxiety. Drugs do cause a chemical imbalance in the brain, for some peacock who preaches that you shouldn't take meds for such illnesses is the most ignorant advice being put out there.

@kingbrizzyboru

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Me as well brother

my wife suffers from mental illness.. and its always a fight. im sick of it! how can i not perceive her actions as demonic? When in the same breath, she loves and hates everything and everyone.

I remember my family member told me about the rules of IVF, she did IVF almost 10 years, everytime the doctor would put 2 succeed embryos into her body, but she took 8 eggs before, the rest (other 6 succeed embryos) they would ask her to sign a consent to give out the rest of success embryos. Choice 1: discard them Choice 2: let the scientists use them for practice. Choice 3: frozen them. If she decided to choose the 2nd one, they may not able to tell you where they gonna transfer your embryo to, they might sent them overseas or other labs, so your babies will be a clinical tool, do we really happy about that?

You see a GP for your physical health, you see a Psych for your mental health, you see a Pastor for your spiritual health. When praying for healing, THE LORD has a few options. Be it through the attending physician, the dutiful researcher, the attentive councillor or the HOLY SPIRIT. Because THE LORD is Pre-Eminent, Supreme & Sovereign. And healing is firmly in his perview of expertise. I suffer from Depression, Anxiety & PTSD. It's because I have a good mix of christian mental health support workers and a good pastor that I continue to strive seeking his face, bearing my cross while keeping my mental health in check. And I'm thankful that THE LORD helps me in the way he sees fit

I know wh3re he's coming from but I guarantee he would not say that if he went through what I had to or a lot of others, because I can tell by the way he talks , he's been sheltered, no struggle, no time being homeless.

God bless you

Sometimes physical depression is a result of a spiritual problem. Sometimes physical depression is the cause rather than the result and emotional instability from this can be overspiritualized and guilt laid unnecessarily on the sufferrer. Either way, it's not good to make blanket assumptions. Antidepressants can also be used to treat physiological issues that don't have a prominent emotional (mood) manifestation. My daughter is a long-term akathisia patient and antidepressants have been part of her treatment.

@archiesimpson5172

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That's called off-label and is just another way for BigPharma to rake in more money.

Mood is regulated by chemicals and processes in the body. The GUT plays a role in regulation of mood. The BRAIN also plays a role. Nutrition plays a role. It is well known, for example, that a deficiency of nutrients such as vitamin D, plays a role in mood regulation. I was cured of severe depression when I took antibiotics for a sinus infection. Doctors now know that the gut communicates with the brain, and vice-versa. If any part of the body does not work properly to regulate mood, depression may be the result, even if you have wonderful little thoughts going on in your mind.

What an intelligent answer

This was a very interesting video. I battled with postpartum depression with physocis after my 2nd child. If I would had listened to my physiologist at church and token medicine I would had not spiraled down more in my depression. I was so fixed on that I would be okay with out meds. I did not like to take meds. I went through a horrible battle with my depression. Ot was a scary time. Over a year after I came out of it I realized things that I had done wrong in the past. I realized I was a selfish person, not forgiving and not knowledgeable of the word, my faith was not strong. Now though I am so much stronger in the word, I have knowledge, one day with what i went through i will be able to mentor and help other ladies going through what I went through. God is so good! :) I use to be sad about what I went through. Not anymore.. i accepted it. Now God can use me more to help other woman.

@breeemckinsey4342

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I have been going thru ppd for a year and six months now have tried four diff meds that’s didisnt work , so I just stopped for months now without it but it just won’t go away and I’ve been torn on wether to try again new meds or not or to just rely on god alone but I just can’t stand feeling this way every single day

@Muddymudskipper

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@@breeemckinsey4342 look up Mark DeJesus on here and see if some of his teachings don’t help you through whatever you might be facing.

God put herbs on earth for all health issues Seek God for all things

Do also realise that depression is a emotional responce to unresolved loss or surpassed anger, God related me to become a psychotherapist as he asked me to. He would not have asked me for this vocation if depression could not be healed by psychological intervention. Some depression can be healed, others that have healed can just transom itself later into physical illness until the route cause has been established. Also genetic chemical insufficiency is also well established

I highly advice you don't go on medication as it cause many negative drawbacks if you ever come off it.

Is it proper to say there are no mistakes, only your own sin?

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and why wouldn`t they be,

I felt God tell me to let go of my antidepressants a couple years ago because He showed me I was putting my hope in a pill not in Him! He wants to be our hope and He’s a jealous God! He wants to be our Healer. But as I’m struggling with depression again, I’m wondering if I need to go back on. After that experience idk what His will is.

“Chemical imbalance” has been debunked, even in the secular world. I’m not suggesting people can’t be helped with medication, but that is far too easily and often pursued, and sadly encouraged by pastors who are failing their people. The Puritans were physicians of the soul, and it had to do with their relentless view of the sufficiency of Scripture and truth. Pastors, don’t sell out for the easy route - we are talking about eternal souls!