I fear most mere mortals who are unfamiliar with the pre-Disney Star Wars Expanded Universe would not be able to appreciate the significance of the Katana Fleet showing up on-screen... especially in live action.

@MagicPrepper

9 ай бұрын

I forgot I even read those books until this video reminded me. Those were the days.

@hdvsmith

9 ай бұрын

The beauty of what DF is doing is that the newbies don't have understand it's origins. He's introducing it as though the audience has never heard of it. So the newbies can appreciate the concept and us legends and EU fans can appreciate finally seeing it on the screen. Feloni is genius!

@tufab3494

9 ай бұрын

It would feel the same as Palpatine's secret fleet from Ep 9, so yeah, it would probably be quite underwhelming for casuals

@samvanderplas8970

9 ай бұрын

Even if you dont know the lore of it all you can still appreciate an epic entrance if they saw one, i think you're also underestimating the casual star wars fans willingness to research a bit after the fact. It'll be fine

@CAPT6875

9 ай бұрын

No, I get it. It means almost nothing of significance. That's it.

I just hope they don’t kill off Thrawn too soon and they show us how brilliant he is and plays everyone (even us).

I think thrawns unique in new cannon cause he’s not a generic bad guy, he wants the best for everyone but will go to extremes to get to those ends, balancing a good and bad character and makes him more relatable

@justicedunham4088

9 ай бұрын

The “benevolent dictator”. He sees himself as the best option and is willing to destroy those that disagree with that position

@tensixtythreecomics

9 ай бұрын

@@justicedunham4088total marvel/Disney villain

@stealthynaxo

9 ай бұрын

​@@justicedunham4088So like Dr Doom?

@coldkush

9 ай бұрын

Naw you are just a lost sheep

@hawkeye2467

9 ай бұрын

​@@DivineWindSerpentI understand your point on the idealisation of fictional characters but you seem to be missing thrawn's backstory and that he only wants his people to be safe which is a noble motive although im not sure how much the show in gonna dive into his relationship with his native people but he's not just bad he's somewhat mixed but closer to bad than good due to lengths he's went to.

I can easily see him adapting this to a lost Separatist droid fleet that jumped at the end of the Clone Wars. Imagine him bringing back a fleet of Lucerhulks?

@Xenomorphine

9 ай бұрын

I could definitely see Seperatist droids being adapted into a Skynet-style military. It was enormously dumb for the entire Separatist military to have a single shut down signal render it completely useless. Realistically, they should have won the war early on. Clones still need time to mature, whereas droids can be instantly mass produced. It was a wonder the Republic didn't use their own competing droid designs and just augment them with organic clone soldiers for specialised tasks requiring creativity.

@alexanerose4820

9 ай бұрын

@@Xenomorphine To be fair, the shutdown code only really applied in Phantom Menace and they fixed it were it not for the evil space wizard controlling both sides which prolonged the war and robbed the Seperatistst of victory

@Xenomorphine

9 ай бұрын

​@@alexanerose4820 I was referring to 'Sith', not 'Phantom Menace'. There's literally one command which shuts every networked droid in the galaxy down at once. Imagine how easy it could ahve been for the Republic to have simply replicated that signal!

Interesting, I love Zahn's Thrawn in the new novels. He's given so many layers and his motivations make him a lot more intricate and mysterious. I'd love for Filoni to keep that idea of Thrawn being loyal to his own people and ready to go to whatever lengths to protect them. Even if he needs to use the Empire for that.

@umbraemilitos

9 ай бұрын

The new books also did a better job explaining the logic.

@jtodd00

9 ай бұрын

I completely agree, I've read the new Thrawn books a few times and I'm currently almost done reading the Heir to the Empire trilogy for the first time. Thrawn is so much more complex and interesting in the new ones, they add so much depth to his character

@helwrecht1637

9 ай бұрын

I really hope they don’t turn Thrawn into a big dumb bad guy, when in the books he’s a hero

@richardrieb9739

9 ай бұрын

I agree completely. Thrawn in the old trilogy was very 2 dimensional. We only knew he was a genius because the books kept calling him one like a vegan making sure everyone knows. You don't get to experience anything that leads to that experience. The rest of the story in the original trilogy is good, but I really like the depth of the thrawn character more

@adrianized

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, I love the idea of Thrawn being more of an anti-hero that we can all relate to way more than just being pure evil. I think that’s what makes villains really interesting.

Would be badass to see the Katana Fleet in live action. I doubt we’ll get it, but damn it would be amazing.

I honestly think the idea of Katana fleet becoming canon is a bit far-fetched, though it would be really cool to see it in live-action. But I feel like the hyperspace ring is purely for the Chimera, seeing the damaged condition it is in. I think that Filoni will take a slightly different path yet similar to the one in Legends, where Thrawn's return causes a split in the New Republic itself. We already saw hints of many influential people supporting the Empire indirectly, and seeing as even Moff Gideon has moles within the New Republic, it's highly plausible that Thrawn's return galvanizes the Shadow Council and makes the New Republic split into two factions, one that supports Thrawn and another opposing him.

@benjacobson8638

9 ай бұрын

I agree, it is for the Chimera and only that ship. I think it is a bit of a stretch that it is for 200 other ships also unless you bring them back one at a time, but he just got done saying they work as a hive so that probably isn't possible either.

@cerberusenthusiast553

9 ай бұрын

Oh no, that is leading to the fucking First Order...

@KovoriaTheConquerer

9 ай бұрын

In the sequels, it was said that no major Imperial battle has occurred since Jakku. It will be likely that Thrawn returns, takes control of the Shadow Council and prepares for war and formally creates the First Order. Ahsoka and the gang fight and probably kill him, and the rest of the now united shadow council retreat to the unknown regions to regroup and wait. Idk why everyone is surprised this is leading to the sequel trilogy, it literally always has and they have been adding things from the sequels into these for awhile.

@cerberusenthusiast553

9 ай бұрын

@@KovoriaTheConquerer I'm not surprised, I'm mad. They are taking the one last Star Wars major story left and making it their excuse to fucking explain their tomfoolery...

Not me seeing the thumbnail and thinking how cool a Battlestar Galactica star wars crossover would be

Thrawn it's pretty cool to me, I mean I think ultimately he just wants to do what's right, in his opinion.

@IRLSuperb

9 ай бұрын

Pretty much just like everyone in power? “I want what’s right in my opinion” …….. not every opinion is ultimately “good”

@x360playerug

9 ай бұрын

@@IRLSuperbyet that's the exact dilemma of being in power

@TheJCampb

9 ай бұрын

Nobody is ever doing what they think is wrong.

@LuckyDogGaming

9 ай бұрын

Totally agree I loved the newer trilogy of books. He doesn’t seem evil, from a certain point of view.

These novels revitalized my interest in Star Wars when I was 14. and it really, IMO kept the Star Wars brand relevant. I heard a lot more about SW when these came out than I had in years as a younger kid. In my mind, this WAS and IS the sequel trilogy. At least to the original movies. I hope what Dave Filoni does with his trilogy is also high quality. He's done good so far. I'm hopeful for the first time about SW in a long time.

@Hohrd

9 ай бұрын

I 100% feel the same, and was so let down by the story of the sequel trilogy when the Heir to the Empire story was right there waiting to be put on screen. 20 years later here we are! It’s about time

@davecornette3267

9 ай бұрын

I was so highly disappointed when "Heir to the Empire" was nit used fir this crap sequel we got

I love the new thrawn canon novels. Seeing Thrawn use his genius and newfound remnant group to save his people from the grysks or some other threat would be awesome.

You could write a Thesis paper with the amount of theories this man has churned out in a week.

@summersoldier1003

9 ай бұрын

almost like he should be named like theory or something.

@DarkHorseDanny

9 ай бұрын

@@summersoldier1003Star Wars Theory would be the perfect KZread name for him, I hope he picks that

@emb_maul9632

9 ай бұрын

​@@DarkHorseDannynahh that's too far fetched

@summersoldier1003

9 ай бұрын

@@emb_maul9632 Yeah I can't see it.

Man I would LOVE to see the Katana Fleet in live action! If they bring that to fruition, Ahsoka will be a goated series for sure

I think with Zahn’s writing and Feloni’s direction, this story could go places. The story will be told from a different point of view, of course. But we will see the original 6 at some time. Can’t wait to see Leia again!

I thought the same about Shin and Baylan. everyone who has read the Darth Bane Novel trilogy knows that Bane comes across this young girl who's powerful in the force and he chooses her as his apprentice. We're getting the same with Baylan and Shin. this is why Dave IS THE CHOSEN ONE.

@TheTwistedTreant526

9 ай бұрын

A master and a young apprentice? 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

@117MasterSpartan

9 ай бұрын

Dude… Baylan and Bane are totally different 😂💀💀💀💀. Doesn’t make Dave the chosen one….

@pooyaazim193

9 ай бұрын

@@117MasterSpartan Actually if you've read the novel, you'll see some similarities between them. And in regards to Dave, if he's not then who is, Jon Favreau? He made wrote book of boba and it was trash.

@jxchamb

9 ай бұрын

Anakin shows up in Ahsoka and all of sudden Dave is the one who will save us all. All I need to do is rewatch Empire to be reminded that the chosen one was Irvin Kershner.

@117MasterSpartan

9 ай бұрын

@@pooyaazim193 yeah the similarity but it’s nowhere near who bane is. Dave filoni isn’t even that good. There’s tons of stuff wrong with this show, the fact that they don’t even write a story and let fans make it up as it goes along shows it: How did ahsoka survive in that water for that long? Who knows. Who pulled her into the world of worlds? Who knows Why did she have an arc about grieving clone troopers when she already had that in the early seasons of the clone wars? Who knows Nobody, not a single KZread channel can agree on what anakin was trying to teach.. live or die?? Well that’s pretty obvious but here’s one: some people saying ahsoka was afraid to turn out like anakin… who writes this??? She literally met luke before in the book of boba fett which takes place before this show..: the literal son of anakin and look how he turned out, and leia, and anakin did turn to the good side, so why on earth is ahsoka worried about that? Who knows. Why on earth didn’t they have an emotional impactful dialogue of her feeling some guilt of pain regarding anakin turning to the dark side and order 66? Nah, just ambiguous live or die. Was he a force ghost or what? Who knows. Does thrawn have an impact? No because the sequels are directly after this and the main antagonists of them don’t even care about thrawn, he has nothing to do with the first order, Rey, the resistance etc. What is heras arc in this? Who knows. This show creates more questions than it answers.

I think this would be great to incorporate into new Disney cannon and it would actually make Thrawn an upgraded threat than he was previously. Along with this, he’d ensure it’s utmost security and that any vulnerabilities are kept in check. Do it Dave!!

Theory you may have covered this but did you notice in the beginning of episode 6 when the night sisters say it wreaks of Jedi and then it flashes to Baylan!? I bet you he was using the force to project his identity onto Sabine and he really is a Jedi. But more like a Qui Gon, Revan type Jedi. And that the planet has something from the old republic regarding Revan and that’s how they introduce him to Star Wars universe! Would love for you to do a theory on this!

Hero Thrawn who’s loyal to the Chiss from the new books > old gets stabbed by a body guard Thrawn

I clicked on this thinking it was an Eckhart’s Ladder video, and then I was confused as to why he sounded like SW Theory.

Could the fillet be what Palpatine used in Rise of Skywalker? Those all were dredknots also and used the same communication link and it was their weakness also. Maybe Thrawn searches for them and we find out in the Faloni movie that thrawn knows their location but is stopped before locating the fleet and sidious or his contingency plan may have connections to his intelligence to locating the lost fleet. That would explain how palps had that many ships in such a short time.

@pwashing4christ

9 ай бұрын

I am in my opinion sure that it is. It’s not a coincidence to me💯👍🏾

@LukiKruki

9 ай бұрын

Mmm. Fillet. Very tasty.

Unlikely just because of the condition of the Chimera... Of course something like 30% of all Star Destroyers were unaccounted for during the time of the new republic and a logical place for them to go would be the Unknown regions where Thrawn came from. This would make the katana fleet look like loose change.

@Hartzilla2007

9 ай бұрын

Yeah I doubt the proto-First Order is going to want to share those.

@bigmekboy175

9 ай бұрын

@@Hartzilla2007 even accounting for those there were still thousands of ISD' s unaccounted for. When we saw what looked an awful lot like ISD'S in the Rise of Skywalker trailer there was a lot of speculation about them. Obviously JJ Abrams took that bit of lore and threw it in the trash.

The way that they talk about Thrawn starting a war (in Ahsoka), it's almost like they already figure he has the fleet...

Original (90's) Thrawn was so scary as an antagonist. Not physically intimidating, but always 3-5 steps ahead of our heroes.

Interesting tho I just finished rewatching the Geonosis arc from tcw season 2 the other day.

I think it would be interesting if they changed it from the Katana fleet to a lost Separatist fleet. Maybe Kalani the Tactical droid?

No, whats more terrifying is Thrawn reuniting the imperial remnants under his command. The New Republic doesnt take the empire seriously anymore because they're divided, scattered and would rather go to war with each other than reclaim theyre lost territories.

I think it’d be interesting if given how many imperial loyalists are the New Republic a large portion of the NR military defects to Thrawn’s side. I think it would give an interesting reason for the NR choosing to demilitarize so heavily by the time of the sequels as they couldn’t even trust their own military.

How? The Ring from Elsbeth is big enough to bring Thrawn's ship back to our galaxy, how can 200 Dreadnaughts follow him? And i don't think "magic" from the night sisters will make that happen, then they wouldn't need help in the first place to go back.

@tedrow70

9 ай бұрын

Thrawn and the sisters are in another galaxy currently, when they arrive back into the Star Wars galaxy they’ll likely be in the outer/unknown regions, where the katana fleet is supposed to be still

@mav8535

9 ай бұрын

​@@tedrow70that would really come out of nowhere. Literally. No one has ever mentioned the Katana Fleet before, I hope they find a better, more creative way to even the playing field.

@tedrow70

9 ай бұрын

@@mav8535 oh I agree I don’t think it’s plausible that they are going to show up in Ahsoka, but they’re simply to have rumored to have still been in the Star Wars galaxy was all I was saying

The idea of Thrawn already having a big fleet would feel very Episode 9-ish... So, instead of that how about this: Once Thrawn arrives in the home galaxy he should immediately go on a quest to find the Katana Fleet. Perhaps the fleet got scattered somehow and Thrawn must collect each portion of it, Thanos-style, while having to deal with the New Republic and others who get in his way.

i'd be simply terrifying to see 200 dreadnoughts... imagine the sheer power of those, dispatch 10-15 to vital positions and the new republic is completely crippled

@StephxUn

9 ай бұрын

So basically exactly what happens in episode IX with the Final Order fleet on Exegol

I think that this fleet would serve well in a second season. As cool as it would be to see all of these ships show up with Thrawn, the problem is getting them from point A to Point B. In the last episode, Thrawn gives orders to kill the whales. If Thrawn needed the whales for transport, he would give orders to use the whales. Now, if he used the witches to find the ships, use ghost troopers to staff the ships, and used the witches to move the ships back to the galaxy…then that would be pretty awesome!

Dude, this is easily one of your best lore videos! I love it!

I agree with you, both that Thrawn from Zahn's original books is the real Thrawn. I also agree that Filoni takes what he wants and use it aa he pleases. So I think we are up for something completely different.

I have a novel thought - I don't know about the Katana fleet, but what if Thrawn's fleet is already being paraded before our eyes. Those brand new Cruisers the Republic has introduced in the series - we saw a bunch of them being built in orbit over Corellia when Ahsoka and Hera were investigating Morgan's operation and found Imperial sympathizers there. What if Morgan's operation runs deeper than that than purloining hyperdrives from Dismantled Star Destroyers? What if she has/had people who had access to the new ships and could install some sort of hidden Trojan Horse programming that at the flick of a switch automatically revert those Ships to Imperial Control?

They would have to set up the lore surrounding the Katana fleet. Seems like this could possibly be an arc for season 2 but I doubt it. Would be incredible to see.

Thank you for capturing the haunting nature of the Katana fleet. I genuinely got chills reading about it a few years ago, and you nailed the feeling in your explanation of it. Slave-rigging a bunch of ships together is a great idea on paper, but has massive risk tied to it. Just the thought of that many ships connected together, adrift somewhere in unknown space just waiting to be claimed sends a shiver down my spine because of the sheer potential of it. Also, isn't Boba Fett's ship Slave 1 slave-rigged too? (No pun intended) I think I remember reading that somewhere because he has full control over its systems with a keypad on his bracer. Even for one ship, the layout of that level of control can be devastating in the wrong hands, and that's what makes the Katana Fleet so incredible.

Thrawn could be the big threat to the New Republic post-RoTJ, but Disney won't let it happen with the sequel trilogy being a thing. It just wouldn't make sense for the New Republic to demilitarize and blow off the idea of a rising power to challenge it if they fought a huge war against Thrawn. I hope Ahsoka is setting up for Mando S4 which will wrap up with the movie, but Disney can't fathom a better storyline than the one they gave us in the sequels overriding the canon they've already set in place.

I’ve seen rumors that the retelling of Heir to the Empire might adapt the story and have Ezra & Shin Hatti end up being the Luke & Mara Jade. And maybe Thrawn comes back and warns the new republic of a coming invasion from the unknown region.

bro we all know that ahsoka wil become a goddess and destroy em all we know that filoni's leash is being held by kathleen...

Never knew about the Katana Fleet before this video, but the way you described it at the beginning of your video just echoes Thrawn's philosophical side.

Well, I can certainly tell you one thing Disney won’t keep from legends. And that’s they will NOT refer to it as “slave” 😂😂😂😂

Theory I love you and your content, and you’ve always been my favorite Star Wars content creator, but can we please relax with the clickbait titles? It makes you look more like the kind of person that some people think you are

@zcorpalpha2462

9 ай бұрын

Like me, he doesn’t give a shit what people 💭 think, that why he’s cool 😎

@DiamondLotus210

9 ай бұрын

@@zcorpalpha2462 Don't get me wrong, I'm a big supporter of Theory, but this title just feels really crappy and a lot of the other recent ones haven't been much better

Can't help but remember the Eternal Fleet used by the Zakuulian empire and Darth Vitiate / Valkorion thousands of years ago. It's a lot similar in concept but the fleet was controlled by whoever had the throne and all the user needed to do was dish out the order.

Zahn didn't change Thrawn for the canon books. He is very similar to his depiction in the Legends Outbound Flight book. I will be disappointed if Filoni ignores this character development.

the most beautiful thing about this system is- when the front ship shoots, the back ships shoot into the front ships 👍🏼

Whatever giant fleet Thrawn may bring, it'll be taken down with the most ridiculous method possible. Whatever the method may be.

Thrawn and the 7th Fleet were already a nightmare for the rebellion back then Imagine how much more of a pain it'll be when he's in command of the KItana Fleet

I think there will be a reference to it as Zahn did help write for ahsoka... but on the other hand the fact his ship is in the condition it is in leads me to think he hasnt found it... or maybe he does know its location and is waiting for elsbeth to show up with the ring and they will jump there...but as you said maybe they are waiting in the system that peredia is... or side thought...maybe the reason why he star destroyer is the likely last of the 7th fleet is because he came in contact with the katana fleet and it decimated them

I like the tone and transitions in this vid, felt unique compared to the recent videos. Awesome job theory, also that would be epic seeing Thrawn with a huge fleet that size 🔥👌

I think the Eye of Scion is only big enough for one Star Destroyer so I think it will just be the Chimaera. I wonder did any other other Star Destroyers from the 7th Fleet end up at Peridea and what happened to them?

This might be a nice theory, but a lot of theories like this usually don't happen sadly, I thought I would be surprised in some areas in star wars, for it to never happen 😢

I think the hyperspace ring already served its purpose which was to transport Morgan to Thrawn on the other Galaxy. Although in the book Outbound flight there is a similar ring that all the ships dock to to jump over to the next Galaxy. However before they make it they are attacked by Thrawn

The sequel trilogy established that a defeated Empire has/had enough resources to make Star Destroyers much larger than Vader’s, as well as a “Death Star” that was actually planet sized. What’s my point? Zahn’s books were written assuming that resources were limited. “Free ships” (and clones as prequels didn’t exist and we didn’t know clone history) were enough to tilt the balance (if your leader was a military genius). Disney-cannon doesn’t have (enough of this) scarcity. Empire still flush. First/Final order able to built whatever. This idea doesn’t fit into the current cannon in other words.

@user-yq9im9dk9z

9 ай бұрын

They do have scarcity, otherwise Mon Mothma would have responded to the attack of Morgan. The fact that villains have unlimited weapons from their ass is just the problem of the sequels, not the whole canon.

I so hope he comes back with a giant fleet

The hyperspace ring is for thrawns ship Last episode you saw the state of the thrusters on the back...half of them aren't functioning so he can't jump back without it

Theoretically, they could do other things with how the fleet is found...I wouldn't be surprised if the Chiss knew of the ships and where they were but due to the virus (or something similar) at the time, they just left them where they lay...Thrawn deciding to use it since the virus might have run its course and burned out

I think Grand Admiral Thrawn will do both. He is bringing his fleet and his hoopty ship, but he has been building an army the whole entire time with him all of his gang of darkness from the last season of the Mandalorian. Whatever happened to him on Peridia took out a lot of his troops. So, he's going to need some time, but not very much for an attack. I think that if Moff Gideon is still alive, he is going to be a dead man for doing experiments behind everyone's backs and his disrespect for Thrawn.

I think Filoni might just use that and adapt it in a way to explain how Palpatine ended up with the massive fleet at the end of The Rise Of Skywalker

@LA-st6dq

9 ай бұрын

Well, we know from Bad Batch, Rebels and Mando the Empire and specifically Palpatine was interested in the cloning, ofc for himself to secure his life. So him having activity on Exegol long before his sudden death. Palpatine was always ahead and planing dark things, even using magic. So it is likley, he always had plans for the Sith Eternal - maybe within time we learn that secret remnants of the empire headed to Exegol to build the structure of the final order

@LukiKruki

9 ай бұрын

I doubt. The only thing familiar from Legends are the slave rig system, the linker of Palpatine's Star Destroyers. The katana fleet itself isn't present. It's logical from Palpatine to reuse the slave rig system, the only thing left after its original katana fleet got lost.

I really love the old Thrawn trilogy. Especialy that Thrawn respects his Co-Workers. At one point in the books, one of his captains has an idea that Thrawn didn't think of and he promotes him unlike Vader who would've killed everyone daring to say something against his order. Trawn has honor and says that not everyone can think of all, not even himself. This trilogy and Darth Banes are my favourite stories in star wars

I like the canon's Thrawn better than the legends', I like him better as a likeable, nice guy. The Chiss trilogy and the book Thrawn are my favourite books of him. However we're getting the villain version in this show, at least that's how it seems for now.

Ohhhh, I am SO GLAD I listened to the audiobooks last year!

I never knew about the Katana fleet. But hearing you explain it makes it sound eerily similar to the eternal fleet from SWTOR in terms of being controlled from a single vantage point controlled by what could be characterized as a “skeleton crew” as only 1 SCORPIO Droid was needed to control a single dreadnaught

Interesting idea, the only problem I have with it is that if Thron shows up with this. It completely underlines all the narrative setup from the Maldolorian and what we have seen with the shadow council of the old imperial remnant.

Some issues I have with the theory: 1) If it was made after the war and lost after the war how would Thrawn have heard about it unless he stubled upon them while he was exploring his new galaxy 2) If he did find it and does get back to the prime universe with it how would any of the events of the sequel trilogy be possible without mentioning the new war the would take place without completely retconning the sequel and 3) If he had found the fleet why wouldn't he be on one of those ships and how did Morgan and all them miss the 200 ship armada once they got to the planet. I don't see how any of those questions could be answered.

I thought the whole point of Heir to the Empire was that Thrawn nearly took the New Republic with just a few ships and his brilliant strategic mind. Also they need to acknowledge how Thrawn's only true allegiance is the Chiss Ascendency, and how helping them would realistically be his only motivation for restoring the Empire.

Also I have a theory on whatever Thrawn found in the unknown regions. I believe he found some physical object that Palpatine attached his dark side essence to when he died and this is about to show us sort of how Palpatine is able to be “re-born”

I love this channel man!

The Sword Fleet looks like a bunch of Battlestars from Battlestar Galactica.

I think the ring is designed to fit Thrawn's SD and that's it. Certainly not a fleet that blind jumped until it ran out of fuel. Most ships don't have fuel and engine speed to hit another galaxy, I'd imagine.

You're writing just keeps getting better

I think the hyperspace ring is from the Chimera. I am sure the Imperial remnant is gathering ships for Thrawn's return.

I think we wont be seeing the Katana Fleet yet in this season but more like on the next. We need a new big space battle again in Star Wars. I've been very impressed with the Ship VFX in the show and I think its time to big with it. Give up a space Battle worthy of that of the Battle of Endor in ROTJ and Battle Over Coruscant in ROTS. I dont want it to be just ship spam that they did with Battle of Exegol. I want a really detailed tactical space battle where we see Thrawn take command and lay it on the New Republic.

I think Filoni has learned from the last few years of Star Trek not to go around networking ships

I thought they found the remnants of the Kitana Fleet in 'Heir to the Empire' - smuggler Talon Karrde found them and the New Republic tried to take possession but lost them to the Imperial Remnant under Thrawn. I think the majority of the ships were still missing, and many of those remaining were destroyed.

It would be a crazy ANIME style of intro, Pulling up to the galaxy with this colossal army that just destroys even the WILL to fight back.

Not sure what they plan to do or if there is a Katana Fleet out there...what is 100% for sure is they can't end this story arc in 2 episodes. Season 2 + the Filoniverse movie is the bare minimum needed to complete a well played story imo.

An armada of networked ships controlled from one central location ultimately infected by a (hive-mind) virus. Wasn't this the whole premise of Star Trek Picard Season 3 which was subsequently "borrowed" from Battlestar Galactica between 2004-2008

I just read the comic adaptations of thrawns story and thought the katana fleet was so cool. If we see it in the show that would be unreal!

He didn't comeback with a fleet, but undead army of hundreds

To be fair, Zahn started the whole "Thrawn is not such a bad person after all" thing in Legends with some of his later novels. Disney can't be blamed for everything you know.

Only problem with bringing back a fleet is that there is only one giant hyperspace ring. He is coming back with only the Eye carrying the Chimaera. An interesting thought though. The NR is building an awful lot of those new cruisers. Could Feloni have the same idea of a Katana Fleet but with a different class of ship?

In Star Wars galactic conquest Thrawn’s star destroyer was huge.

If it was any other fandom, it wouldn't make sense, but the prequels demonstrated Imperial (and post-Imperial) weaponry doesnt' appear to have changed very much, meaning it probably wouldn't be considered as obsolete. 'Star Wars' technology is, honestly, very weird and inconsistent. up until 'Rebels', it wasn't even properly canonised that Imperial fighters had no shields - that was more an invention of the games. In the movies, TIE fighters and X-Wings blew up as easily as one another, meaning shields must have either been useless or Imperial weapons were far more powerful than rebel ones were.

Awesome Video!!! I'M SOOOOOO EXCITED FOR THE NEXT EPIOSDE!!!!!!

0:09 the transition

Plot twist, Katana Fleet is captured by the new Republic. However if Thrawn had the Katana fleet he could of stripped one or two for parts to fix his Star Destroyer.

I want to see the barely functional Chimera decimate several New Republic ships

Baylan and his apprentice remind me of master Cboath and Jedi Jinzler from the outbound flight series, which I also believe Palpatine later cloned and had him try and corrupt Luke. They were also the first two republic peeps to run into Thrawn who Palpatine used to destroy outbound flight

I would love to see thrown utilize the katana fleet. We’ve pretty much only seen the dreadnought Class Heavy Cruiser in mods on raw foc and in comics and once in rebels. It would be so cool to see them in live action.

Makes sense. The Zahn books had a LOT of great content in them, so in most cases I am always up for using that source material if it is legit to do so. Personally, I don't think we'll get it. I think Feloni is more pushing Thrawn towards mastering the fastest travel possible, not just to escape, but so he can , in the future, strike in any number of spread apart places and therefore defeat the New Republic through the speed and unpredictability of his offensives. Then again I also thought that Luke was going to be Grandmaster as a Gray Jedi by teaching the force with balance, and that sure didn't happen...

Most informative. Thank you.

It does seem like Thrawn is more ruthless now

Thrawn about to be the best villain since vader and palps under falonis control

The problem is the Katana fleet would feel like a redo of Palpatine's hidden fleet in Rise of Palpatine. Otherwise i agree with you.

@LukiKruki

9 ай бұрын

Star Wars loves to rhyme itself. To make the katana fleet feel the same yet different it would be great if Abeloth through reanimated Ventress would suddenly kill Thrawn and took over his katana fleet to hyperspace bombard various systems, like in The High Republic, and Luke Skywalker would have to stop her. It would feel like rhyme of Rise of Skywalker, rhyme of The High Republic as well as bringing back from Legends unexpectedly suddenly killed Thrawn by his powerful allay, and Abeloth and Luke Skywalker conflict.

@watchparty1

9 ай бұрын

@@LukiKrukiWhen Lucas talked about the series rhyming like poetry that is not what he meant at all. This is just redoing storylines.

I never heard this story before, but sounds awesome! I'm on board if Dave goes there. It sounds like a movie worth threat too.

The problem with Thrawn acquiring the Katana fleet is that in the end it would be irrelevant since we know that in the sequels the republic is well and healthy

I have thought from the very beginning that Baylan and his apprentice were copies of Bane and his apprentice . Tweaked but i definitely got that vibe

@8:24 WTF are those guys?? they do be groovin tho

love your videos Theory🙏

i kinda doubt it, since sadly a somewhat similar plot line was already butchered by rise of skywalker and the exegol fleet