If you thought Tiger and Rory were great people and Bryson was a dick l year ago, you need to seriously re-evaluate yourself.

@chriscalvert5864

Ай бұрын

Couldnt agree more

@marktheblake

Ай бұрын

I dont think Tiger has ever been likeable as a person.

@americanfilipino8847

Ай бұрын

10 year ago Tiger was a straight up douche, but he too has done a rep repair job himself.

@DanWessonSpecialist

Ай бұрын

They are not too bright. Tiger has never, ever stuck around to congratulate anybody and people overlooked it. We know why.

@MrMunchies2x

Ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more. It is the PGA or media (Golf Channel) that potray Bryson as the bad guy. They just need to find someone to target as to make certain players, like a shinning angel that we all need to pray and bow to. And you just repeated that narrative, gotta ask yourself sometimes...'are we the baddies?'

This whole Bryson hatred seems to be media contrived more than fan perception. When Bryson was bombing driver at Bay Hill, I was a fan and entertained. When he got up and down on Sunday, I was a fan and entertained. These media personalities just go out of their way to develop heroes and villains to create a story and hope the gullible fall for it.

@nbt3663

Ай бұрын

There was a simple outward perspective of appreciation. He didn't change much, he just realized he had haters and decided rallying his believers mattered. He had haters.... just listen and you'll hear them.

@kyucklebeans

Ай бұрын

Yeah it always seemed apparent that anyone who hated Bryson was just someone who lets the media program their thinking.

Basically Bryson controls his own image since LIV. The PGA guys are so controlled we don't know them

@johndomutz1052

Ай бұрын

Exactly right. They call their players "independent contractors" but when you get down to it, the Tour is highly controlling over them. This is one of the major flaws Greg Norman has exposed.

The PGA treated Bryson how they treated Moe Norman back in the day. They pushed him aside because of his quirkiness. They bullied him about his speech, the clothes he wore, his crooked teeth.... even the pros of his days admitted it. That's the main reason why he chose to play most of his years in Canada.

@STG44tiger

Ай бұрын

I agree. Because he’s different it was hard for him. Thankfully he’s got a lot of friends and the fans love him now thanks to YT

@nab6068

Ай бұрын

best comment on this threat...moe was odd, likely autistic. He was the greatest ball striker ever. I probably watch more moe and bryson videos on youtube precisely because of their quirkiness and simply love of banging golf balls.

How you lose shows more about your character than how you win, Bryson has been gracious in both, Rory not so much.

LIV hate and bias blinded you from this guy

I think to the point of Bryson saying He went to SMU becasue of Payne is he went for a University visit and found out that he was an Allum. Then he made the decision to go there. I went back and listened a few times and it seems he just couldn't get the wording right but he seems to be genuine

@jakesells2379

Ай бұрын

I thought he was pretty clear on this. 🤷‍♂️

@LegolasFan69

Ай бұрын

Exactly…

Could you imagine Palmer, Nicklaus, Trevino, Watson, Norman, etc. doing what Rory did at the end? Did Bryson do that at the PGA? Rory displayed he has a serious lack of character!

@Handletaken4

Ай бұрын

Arnie didn't take money from head-choppers

@andyfrizzell4352

Ай бұрын

​@@Handletaken4yawn ass hat. The US government does about $70bn trade with Saudi ($25bn exports $48bn imports). Why should he be held to a higher standard than his Government

@stevenorr3196

Ай бұрын

@@Handletaken4 No but PGA tour sponsors do business in the same country and Jack is building another course over there now!

@SiLoMixMaster

Ай бұрын

@@Handletaken4 🤦🏾‍♀🤡 If he ever took money from the US Government then he most certainly did....but keep your head buried in the sand

@SiLoMixMaster

Ай бұрын

@@stevenorr3196 Exactly right. These hypocrites have no clue.

Heel to babyface and I've loved him the whole time. Really happy to see the fans embrace him lately. He will continue to innovate and impact the game for years to come.

@LegolasFan69

Ай бұрын

Same. He was young and different but never a bad guy and always good to fans. Golf hate’s people that are different

Reverse Rory and Brysons roles… Bryson sticks around and if he didn’t stay he would be getting killed way worse than Rory is

@LegolasFan69

Ай бұрын

I don’t think it’s a big deal but I do hop Rory sent Bryson a text or something to congratulate him

Win with grace and lose with dignity. Rory should have put his big boy pants on and stayed to congratulate Bryson and answered a few questions. Keep it in perspective - you're not a bricklayer or a plumber, you play golf for a living.

Krank has some damn good drivers.

He's growing up. He's happy and rich. And he's super good at golf. People change, and he's changed in a good way. BTW, I use the one-length as a 30 HCP player and they have helped me tremendously.

@johndomutz1052

Ай бұрын

😮I have never let opinions of others influence how I feel about a person. I liked Tiger when everyone was bailing on him. Bryson caught my attention while he was still on the PGA Tour. Moving to LIV did not affect my opinion. As a KZreadr, I really enjoy his matches there.

I think its just as simple as this, he decided to transform himself primarily as an entertainer, and he is doing so mostly by just being himself. Whereas before he was just playing golf for himself, as many do. This is translating into success for him now, because he is seriously having fun out there.

@ForzaOwnz

Ай бұрын

I feel like he wanted to do that before but PGA rules didn't allow him too

@marktheblake

Ай бұрын

You may be right, he said something to that effect recently, without specifically mentioning PGA. Like that LIV allowed him to be free to do his own thing he has learned to reveal his true self to the public on YT.

Seemed like he was a fan favorite at Bay Hill… idk if I buy the whole villain narrative just bc the media disliked him

@GolfSpyC

Ай бұрын

It certainly wasn't just the media...plenty goes on when the cameras turn off.

Rory made a big mistake in all the context about being the spokesperson etc.

Chris your on point with age view most men in there early 20’s self center especially when your a ten percenter in golf, life or whatever he is exactly what golf needs to bring youth back to watching golf the 60 and over crowd is strong but the middle is very soft and you know very well rock stars sell. It’s been the best stretch of golf in a while hopefully it will keep going great show! Thanks 🏌️

I think is time to buy a crushers gc hat!!

Bryson is doing more for golf than anyone else in golf. I personally dont tune in to a golf tournament to watch Xander or Scottie, but I will watch when Bryson is playing. I feel as long as he keeps tinkering and isn't bound to a brand, he will continue to grow in popularity. You can tell Bryson just loves to goof around, play golf, and have fun like the rest of us average guys out here that just love the game.

You guys are misspoken about the whole Payne- Bryson- Hogan thing.

@GolfSpyC

Ай бұрын

How so?

Earlier this year i commented "who would want to play a round of golf with Bryson" after watching some of his videos. Now i love his videos and would pay to play a round with him.

Once the media labels you and the others follow the narrative without getting to know Bryson, the mental grind either toughens you to push further or you just give up. What you guys miss is that Bryson's journey is almost heroic overcoming adversity through perseverance and focus with integrity. Bryson had to be self aware of himself as Brooks chided him. With introspection and being critically honest he learned what was important and moved ahead. When a pro has reached celebrity status and receives adulation from the media then the ability to handle misfortune and recover is a test of character. The US Open brought that issue to the forefront and it has been a long time in coming.

What you do without obligation says more than what you do due to obligation

Rory needs to have a look at Greg Normans media conference after his implosion against Faldo and he would learn about class.

@UMfan333

Ай бұрын

Ironic, isn't it. The guy who criticized guys going to LIV actually has less class and character than the guys he bashed. It becomes especially despicable given Rory's flip-flopping on his LIV criticisms for no reason other than the golf climate (it is beneficial to him to suddenly speak glowingly about LIV). Never been a fan of Rory. Even less of one now.

@SiLoMixMaster

Ай бұрын

@@UMfan333 Well said. A lot of people have finally woken up to what a snake Rory has been over the past 2 years, but of course there's still plenty of brainwashed pro PGAT fanboys who back Rory's every word and move and thank LIV and it's golfers are 'traitors' and 'bad people' lol

Cost is such a big factor in golf. Most of the KZread golf channels that have reviewed DTC clubs, that's always been the overriding factor in their opinion. Takomo irons have exploded. If you can save $500-600 on a set of quality irons, why wouldn't you. Like you said, most new golfers could care less what brand name is on it or if the lie or loft is slightly off. They look good and these KZread PGA Pros say they're good, works for me 🤷‍♂️

How many players shook Rory hand and congrats after coming in second to him ! All respectful grown men do thar bc it's reciprocal whether you win or lose !

Chris: The DTC v OEM issue you brought up is interesting. I’m guessing that many, many, of these DTC clubs are Chinese foundry blanks stamped differently and married to KBS shafts and Lamkin grips. There’s simply too much similarity with these hollow body irons like Takomo and Caley and Ram and Haywood, etc. And YES, I absolutely want to know where all of these DTC clubs come from.

@GolfSpyC

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I think it's very similar to what we witnessed with the rise of the DTC golf ball market. We'll keep digging and let you know what we find out!

@garydavis8213

Ай бұрын

@@GolfSpyC Thanks Chris. I’ll stay tuned. Love the show!

You have to admit that Bryson is a man of the people.

Tony, you're letting your bias shine through --- sure, Bryson didn't always come off as the most likable person a few years ago, but questioning whether or not his current behavior is fake -- he actually STOPPED during the final round to autograph a hat for a handicapped kid! With the US Open on the line! And that's not the only time, there's at least one other very recent time he stopped a guy from stealing a souvenir ball from a kid, during a competitive round. The one thing i can't believe you guys didn't talk about is Scheffler's performance at the US Open.

@SiLoMixMaster

Ай бұрын

Exactly. Rory has been acting a lot more fake and inconsistent over the past 2 years than Bry58n

If Rory had won, I'd be happy for Rory. Bryson won and I'm happy for golf.

Jay Monahan, contrived dink Engineers loved to reinvent the wheel Tony & Bryson are more alike in their analytical mindsets

Rory doesn’t need to congratulate Bryson, and speak to media because of sponsors, being a pro, or money. It’s because you have good character, respect, and honor. Being humbled breeds better character , while revealing your current character. I hope Rory grows both as a player and more importantly as a person.

There should be a discount with a no return policy to order straight from the main manufactures websites and cut out the retailer. We cut them out all the time and still pay what you would in a store...why. I'll take the risk that I know what I want/need. Stores offer in hand trial and returns/exchanges...if not using those, why pay for it. The manufacturer would still be making the same margin...possibly more even with a discount.

I had a chuckle seeing the golf traders emails, post the win. The only thing they can advertise/ promote is the Titliest ball.

After 18 years off I returned to play again. 6 months in I bought Takomo 101T irons. They play as good as the Taylormade clubs which were copied. Issue is they use cheaper metals and over the years the grooves are flat. 18 months in ball spin is way, way down. Chinese metal in a Chinese iron making factory. Do you think Takomo has an R&D and quality control team? Heck no.

Bryson is the face of American/Pro golf and people wonder why viewership is way down.

Re DTC: I’ll wager most MGS readers would like a test of Distance, dispersion, peak height, spin of McGregor, Ram, Takoma, Caley, etc and OEM hollow body:thin face irons. Like Maxfli balls, there may be a surprise in the results

@lawbinson

Ай бұрын

Aren't those the same heads though

I’m sick of watching robots. I want to see the personalities and KZread is a major reason why he’s very popular now. If these robots are smart and want to grow the game, they should be giving Bryson a call to go on his channel and show the fans a personality.

No Olympics and no Ryder cup for Bryson is problematic

How many pros stuck around to congratulate Bryson after the US Open? Yes, there is an obligation to shake the winner’s hand if you are in his playing group (Bryson got dinged for this in his early years on tour). Sure friends stick around; guessing Rory not friends with LIV guys.

Bry58n beating Rory in that fashion was karma for all the nonsense and trash Rory has said about LIV and it's players for 2 years straight. Rory then stomping off like a spoiled brat without congratulating Bry58n was right on brand for Rory and proves what a selfish, sore loser he is when he can't get his way. Great win for LIV golf.

The Statler & Waldorf of golf.

The Payne stuff is his marketing team. It really came off as fake but it was a fitting story for the situation.

@ifldiscovery8500

Ай бұрын

It cannot be fake when he has special autograph of him in his house said it was one of his inspirations.

No interview fine, not sticking around to congratulate Bryson - no class.

The greens were drying out and countless spike marks around a difficult pin position for a downhill putt. He should have chipped it 😮

He lost his father. That can change a man. Hard thing to say, but parents live too long these days and their children are always in their shadow, never given the chance to tread their own path.

@quantumpotential7639

Ай бұрын

"Parents living too long these days." Are your parents still above ground? If so do you think they ought to go into the ground so you can be more yourself. 🤔

@NickMart1985

Ай бұрын

@@quantumpotential7639 No, they died young. Its tragic. I'm not wishing that pain on anyone, but I watch men trapped by the legacies of their fathers and they never grow up. Every decision made in the context of what mom and dad will think.

@quantumpotential7639

Ай бұрын

@@NickMart1985 Ahhhh, I think I understand now. 👍 sorry for your loss. Now let us pray 🙏

@NickMart1985

Ай бұрын

@@quantumpotential7639 No need to apologize. Losing parents is the way its supposed to be.

I think Rory thought he had the match on the back nine and then he screwed up his putts, knew he left the door wide open for Bryson. He's got a lot going on and this loss utterly crushed him. I think he probably had to get out of there cuz he was going to start crying his eyes out. Having a breakdown.Didn't want to loose face in front of cameras.

@ifldiscovery8500

Ай бұрын

him crying would make him likable, running like bitch makes him a villain..

Ya'll are so "in the moment"...🥴

It’s weird when people push the narrative that Bryson used to be a dick because most of that revolved around fans constantly calling him Brooksie during events. Most people would snap in moments like that, but that doesn’t make you a dick lol if you’ve followed Bryson since he became pro you’d know that his personality hasn’t changed at all. That’s why when he was asked what he’s changed to become a fan favorite he didn’t really have a straight forward answer.

We should all just relax with these athletes. For some reason, we expect 1000 times more from athletes than we do ourselves. I mean I'm not a Rory person, but there isn't but maybe 1% of us lay people that would rise above the cream so to speak. Maybe we all need to not live in die with athletes to the extent we do. After all, they are just human as you and me who have faults so let's have some perspective.

If you track back in his career, his image started to turn around when he stopped wearing the hat that made him look like a pretentious prick. I think his father passing away also had something to do with it. The KZread channel and putting himself out there were byproducts of this, not the catalyst.

@quantumpotential7639

Ай бұрын

"Prententious Prick" embroidered on a Hogan hat would sell like hot cakes. 🔥

He needs to be careful that he does not overexpose himself ; there will be a case of too much Mr. Nice Guy Bryson which will bring people to believe that he is not 100% sincere ( see Phil Mickelson ).

@nickbuilt618

Ай бұрын

Should not surprise me by now but, let’s not get too crazy here with this Guy. Can I interest you in a Timeshare? This is Phil 101 here who also remains to be a knob. Wake up!

Knockoff clubs?

These guys seem to look like the least transformative people, no need to like Bryson, feel free to stay exactly where you are! Rory is no Bryson DeChambeau, thank goodness!

Rory was likely a bundle of nerves given his marriage situation and missing two short putts while Bryson was making miracle shots. Bet he was a crying mess.

What makes you think he’s the most beloved? I personally don’t know very many people that like him. You gave an indication that he might be a phony. He could have learned that from playing with Phil the last few years.

@AviationSceptic

Ай бұрын

Are you talking about Rory or Bryson?

Bryson Decham-BLOWS !!!!

If he hadn’t jumped ship for that disaster known as LIV, he would be beloved. By taking the money and running, he spit in the faces of all the greats before him that built the PGA Tour. I will welcome him back, if he comes back, but until then, I will continue to root for guys like Scotty and Jordan, or Rory and Max.

Wasn’t on my favorite list and when he left for LIV, he certainly isn’t on it now.

Great article by Sally Jenkins in Washington Post about what a phony BD is. First he has had a personality transplant that is to be applauded by interacting with the fans. However when he sits there post round and talks about reuniting the two tours for the "Fans" he fails to admit that he along with the several dozen other defectors they created this problem in the first place and are doing nothing to make concessions to unite the tours. Secondly when he invokes Payne Stewart as why he wanted to win this tournament at Pinehurst he fails to recognize Payne had more integrity in his little finger than any of the LIV golfers and that Payne would have roundly condemned these defectors for creating this "them and us" dilemma that may never be solved and screwing the fans from seeing the very best play together. Lastly, he is now an employee of the Saudi Arabian government that now own him financially, morally and ethically. So please don't fly your patriotic flag with disappointment when you can't play in the Olympics for the USA. I am sure the Saudis will be more than willing to let you be their flag bearer as you walk into the Olympic stadium for the opening ceremonies.