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@franciscoacevedo3036

Жыл бұрын

You should do a Collab with atún shei he made a video about Ignatius Donnelly and Atlantis and this pseudo science crap he also made one about n4zis and crackpot archeology

@WriteInAaronBushnell

Жыл бұрын

Release a version of this video that's only 0:06 long, that cuts to black

@daviddavison5113

Жыл бұрын

@@franciscoacevedo3036 kzread.info/dash/bejne/dIdom8l8g93HppM.html link to atun shei video. I was going to say the same as you until I saw your comment.

@hamstarr100

Жыл бұрын

the idea of the ubermensch has legs, small groups of men have defied the odds over and over again eg sparta, venice, Rome, Jews overcoming larger enemies

@rodrigopazin

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. I am beginning my grad. paper on pseudoscience (+ effects on law and policy making) and this video seems like it will help me a great deal. Do you have any bibliography/reading to recommend?

I propose a reverse Atlantis myth: A city once prospered in a valley, till -whoosh! a mountain suddenly appeared under it. Some say the city is still in orbit.

@vee1267

Жыл бұрын

An entire city got the JoJo-Kars treatment. I love it lmao

@1sdani

Жыл бұрын

That city was named Shandora.

@dopaminecloud

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure that happened in final fantasy 3

@merrittanimation7721

Жыл бұрын

The poor Atlanteans were threatened by the evil Athens and their supposed political purity.

@normanclatcher

Жыл бұрын

Avengers, Age of Ultron.

So... Plato came up with this Atlantis story because he wanted to Make Athens Great Again, as it were?

@_loser_on_line_

Жыл бұрын

Damn... Echoes from the past became barbarians of the future.

@sosukelele

Жыл бұрын

Something about the more things change the more they stay the same

@HeWhoShams

Жыл бұрын

@@_loser_on_line_ I see where you stand. Never understood why people think ANY form of Nationalism is a terrible thing. Why would we, as citizens, not want a leader that truly wants their country to be the best it can be? They claim it's got ties to that of the German party of the 1930-1940s but that's just a copout.

@theoriesbanana

Жыл бұрын

@@HeWhoShams was not expecting a "not all natonalists" guy in the comments of rare earth. I dont think youre the target audience here man

@ericcloud1023

Жыл бұрын

Lol exactly it was literally just some guys Fan-fiction of how super cool and awesome his city was....and those Egyptians, Babylonian & Persians better show some respect. Literally caries as much weight historically as the story of Hercules

When I went there in 2018, there’s a 3D model of the islands located in a glass display at Ponta Delgada airport to show how they look with all the water removed. There’s also a hire car company there called Atlantis

@fingersm

Жыл бұрын

The was an "atlantis" taxi company in Toronto once upon

@madxico

Жыл бұрын

@@fingersm So that shows it was indeed in Canada! :D that´s the spirit!

@BigPoppaSmokes

Жыл бұрын

@@fingersmhere in Reno we have a hotel called Atlantis

@GizzyDillespee

2 ай бұрын

Uber will defeat THOSE Atlanteans. The REAL Atlantis pleasure palace is in the Bahamas! Don't forget to hit the slots on your way to the pai gao tables

Answering the title immediately gives me so much respect for you. Clickbait is silly but somewhat necessary but misleading people is just wrong. For humanities sake, keep up the amazing content!

@Schmidtelpunkt

Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of a clickbaity title of Veritasium where the thumbnail itself showed the answer :-D

Atlantis did once exist, but it lay directly between Ireland and Iceland and was ruled by a race of giant, hairy men who had the ability to turn invisible at will. We know these people as Sasquatch. Eventually, they concentrated this cloaking ability through a mind meld and not only turned their entire island invisible but also raised it up into the air past the arctic jet stream. So, really, Atlantis didn't sink but instead turned invisible and rose to the sky. I hope this explains things.

@geridannels1701

Жыл бұрын

Wow, how do you know what your saying is true?

@meisteremm

Жыл бұрын

@Geri Dannels Because the rulers of Atlantis told me their story through telepathy.

@theULTIMATElife50

Жыл бұрын

So they are the Nox from Stargate SG-1?

@tylerkasper7143

Жыл бұрын

I can confirm this as one Mr "Sasquatch" Sasquatch sat down to tea with me to uncover the whole story. We then talked about how the current inflation problem is really making it hard for him to keep his Atlantean toilet paper company in the black these days, and he might have to lay off some people before Squatchmas.

@roddymcniven8734

Жыл бұрын

@@tylerkasper7143what happened to the cat?

The best storytelling on KZread hands down. Please don't ever stop!

@NickDoddTV

Жыл бұрын

@@MuffJohnson he does research and tells good stories, IQ has nothing to do with it. He's very open about the fact he isn't always 100% accurate

@NickDoddTV

Жыл бұрын

@@MuffJohnson ur so cool man. I'm so dumb

@Wallach_a

Жыл бұрын

Agees

@buggerall

7 ай бұрын

Yup, he's the god of storytelling... Oops.

There might be an explanation to where Plato got his Atlantis story from: A lot of ancient stories and myth have roots that go deep far back in time, oral mythicalised, altered, half-forgotten and half-made-up tellings of core stories people would have told eachother for generations. It’s not a coincidence some of the most well-known stories are proven to be quite unceremoniously copied from older people’s stories. Think of the Biblical Flood Story being basically a rip-off of The Telling of Uta-Napishti(ark story) and parts of the Illiad and Oddysee having parts that are remarkably similar to the Epic of Gilgamesh. People always love a good story. And some stories are so good they never died. They get adopted, incorporated, copied but just slightly altered to feature “their own” people instead of “their people”. Such are humans. In Plato’s day the story of “Atlantis” probably was as ancient to him as a copper adze might be to us. “Evidence” for this can be found in how Plato treats the story: it’s a verhicle to further his own story, political influence and financial well-being probably. He uses the story in such a way that it might tell us that it was a well-understood story, hence why he could almost use it in metaphoric way. But what do i base _my_ hypothesis or better said, wild guess on? Back in the ice age a lot of land was dry, more than there is now. All the water being stored in iceform did a number on global sealevels. People lived on the land that is now sea. Hell, even to this day fisherman in my country(the Netherlands) find bones of animals mostly but also human remains in such abundance that at some point it was considered almost as waste. Dead weight in every sense that you had to bring to shore but couldn’t eat. Throwing it back would mean giving yourself the same headache later. Nowadays ofcourse it’s much more important because of science but it’s still there on the seafloor that was once land in such abundance that if you would ask some fishermen nicely they would give you a stone tool. That’s how i got one. That ended at one point, quite rapidly from what archeological evidence for example can tell us. This must have left an impression on the people. The impacts where felt wide and affar, it helps to realize that before this event the Mediterranean wasn’t connected to the ocean. The melting ice did that, not so gentle according to people who know geology better than i do. That must have left a deep, deep mark. And what verhicles of remembrance and respect did people have then? Oral tradition. Thus i think this created stories based on a deep, deep rooted fear for land that you where born on, lived on, hunted on and expected to die on quite suddenly disappearing under the waves. An intense, almost primal story that lived on and on, even when memories faded and it became oral history, then myth, then legend and at last, history. If anyone read all of this i am genuinely surprised and impressed, because this comment must be longer than Even’s script and probably made a lot less sense too. Obvious caviat: i am in no way trying to prove that _well akshually_ Atlantis is real. No, i am just trying to give people something to think about, about why the stories of sunken cities and world ending floods stay with us so well. I mean, i am Dutch. We quite litteraly made it our thing to tame Posseidon. But yet these stories live, even here. Sometimes those faults in the software are wonderful, showing that we are indeed humans and not purely logical meat computers. There must be a maximum amount of words a KZread comment is allowed to have but still haven’t found. But i have said enough. Enjoy your day all, kind greetings.

@lt.kettch4652

29 күн бұрын

There are a lot of “tribal myths” that can be attributed to the end of the younger dryas period of time, similarly to what you are saying.

If Atlantis isn't real, how could they have put a Stargate there!?!? I loved the video, thanks for sharing with us!

@merrittanimation7721

Жыл бұрын

Checkmate scientists! Stargate is the only indication of veracity I need.

@goodluck5642

Жыл бұрын

That was faked like the moonlanding

@pilote111

Жыл бұрын

what a great series

@BrandanLee

7 ай бұрын

Johnnnn Shepparrrrrd

@mariakelly90210

4 ай бұрын

I thought that the 2 Stargates on earth are located inside Cheyenne Mountain in Colorado USA and someplace on Antarctica.

Evan. As a christian who has faced the fact that his God exists because he need it to be so (call it spiritual clutches if you want, sometimes i need them, I just try not to force anybody to use them), and a uruguayan (thank you for your series on my country, I would loved if you visited further north) I want to thank you. Your work often helps me question my own beliefs. Plus I learn a lot from it. Thank you.

@ryanwilson8323

Жыл бұрын

If only all Christians where like you I think atheists could put down the pitchforks❤

@SebastiandelosAngelesHernandez

Жыл бұрын

@@ryanwilson8323 well, I think that most of that feeling comes from the fact that we all want to be "right", to be special, and shout it out. Funny enough, one of the most profound lessons I learned studying the bible was that whenever one thinks is right, then it's probably wrong (meaning that we can never fully understand the divine will), but too often I found people absolutely sure about their own interpretation. Of course that means I'm also "not right"

@johnny_my_penls_is_small_but

Жыл бұрын

@@SebastiandelosAngelesHernandez Argentinian here (Hola!). I myself don't believe in the Christian God (or any gods for that matter), but the way you worded your explanation on why you believe on God was really explanatory. It's true that a lot of people just want to spite each other or achieve some sort of superiority over religion (and politics!), but if everyone respected the opinions and beliefs of others as you do I believe this would be a much better world.

@rickkwitkoski1976

Жыл бұрын

@@ryanwilson8323 Which atheists? What pitchforks? Atheists care nothing about religion or your "belief"! Just don't attempt to foist or force your "belief" off on those who don't want it.

@ryanwilson8323

Жыл бұрын

@@rickkwitkoski1976 religion is like a penis, it’s cool to have one, you can play with it all you like in your house, but please don’t show it in public. I guess science is now in the same boat. Happy new year to you.

There's something about your story telling that is so compelling. Please never stop

Here's my take on Atlantis. I read the works of Plato which mention Atlantis and it's quite obvious that he uses it as a supporting story to the point he was making. I think he based it on a real historical event, namely the invasion of the sea people from the west, during the bronze age collapse. During this time, all ancient civilizations in the mediteranian perished, with the exception of Egypt. The Egyptian were the only ones who defeated the sea peoples in history, but I think Plato just substituted them with Athens. Now from the invasion of the sea peoples to the life of Plato several centuries had passed. It's quite possible that the version of the story Plato heard was already embelished. After all, during these times very little was actually written and stories were passed on mostly by oral transmission.

@PlatinumAltaria

Жыл бұрын

The problem with that is "there was a city that got conquered" isn't enough of a grain of truth to be meaningful. That could apply to any time and place in history. Nobody feels the need to claim that 1984 is a literally true story, so I have no idea why Atlantis needs to be real.

@e1123581321345589144

Жыл бұрын

@@PlatinumAltaria it doesn't need to be real m8. I'm just analyzing the origin of the story. Nobody knows where the sea people came from, and as for the name "Atlantis", well that's clearly Greek, so most likely Plato came up it himself.

@merrittanimation7721

Жыл бұрын

​@@e1123581321345589144 The issue isn't "was Atlantis real or not" the issue is we don't have enough evidence to suggest what inspired Plato in particular. The story of the Sea Peoples is similar to Critias's tale, yes, but so is Thera. And more contemporary events like the Persian Wars, the destruction of Helike, or even Athens own failed invasion of Sicily (One of the speakers, Hemocrates, was even integral to the last one). Was Plato inspired by those or merely making a parallel? We can't know for certain. But the point is there's no way of knowing what inspired Plato in particular.

@kevinkeegan4817

Жыл бұрын

@@merrittanimation7721 Check out the channel Bright Insight. Jimmy does thorough job of making the case that Atlantis was located at the Richat structure in Africa.

@colewintringham5609

Жыл бұрын

@@e1123581321345589144 Also it should be recognized that Plato was an excellent writer who used his tales to critique the society around him. Perhaps having Atlantis be this unconfirmable thing was simply to add plausible deniability? After all he wasn't critiquing "Athens" or any other Greek city but "Atlantis" - any similarities between Atlantean society and Greek society are "clearly coincidental" . Like how any similarities between the islands in Gulliver's Travels and the European powers were "coincidental".

I've always viewed Plato's story of Atlantis as a thought experiment. I suspected the "perfect concentric rings" design was intended to be a clue to such. What's always bugged me about people talking unironically about "finding Atlantis" is that they're talking about finding a place that Plato invented out of whole cloth, and if they'd just do ten seconds of research they'd realize that, but they never do because the truth is inconvenient to their narrative. It's unfortunate.

@DiMono

6 ай бұрын

@@groundcontrol-888 Literally any literary source. Even Wikipedia knows, with the very first sentence beginning "Atlantis is a fictional island mentioned in Plato's works" (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis)

All the videos you make are great. This is the one channel I share the videos from with my family because both my mom and my sister find them super interesting. Your way of explaining ideas has really inspired me to be more poetic with my language rather than saying things in a very plain way. I've sent your videos as in-class viewing materials to professors and I think they're a great style of documentary. I look forward to every new release!

As someone from a cold country, I appreciate how cold it must have been standing there in the snow with those shoes! Dedication!

Another amazing video Evan! You consistently make some of the most insightful videos, I love your individual stories but these grander scale videos are simply unparalleled in their poetry and pertinence. The world is terrifying, the stories we make provide some solace in that especially in an age of refinement to a core set of truths but we cannot let them overtake reason and logic despite the uncomfortable nature of the world.

Another great video. Was all that beautiful B-roll of green hills and waterfalls from the Azores?

@RareEarthSeries

3 ай бұрын

Yes, it's all Azorean

"But while God might be dead, every corpse feed fungus, and in his ripe night soil stepped out a new order of believer." That straight up sounds like a quote from George R. R. Martin

Every time it seems to come down to people lying for one reason or another (usually for personal gain) about something that originally may have existed at some time. There may have been a kingdom that sank below the sea, everything else is however much more unlikely.

@Miycu

Жыл бұрын

There are multiple sunken cities in the med alone. It's one of the things that helps make sure it's atlantis that endures and not some other myth.

@nathnathn

Жыл бұрын

Like one of candidates “can’t remember the name” was an actual advanced “for the time” island nation but their island died with a volcanic eruption and honestly if the island/nations gone the next time they show up in that time period they’ll assume it sunk.

A belated Christmas gift from Evan and Co. This is one of your best monologues.

If Futurama holds true, the lost city of Atlanta will be talked about in a 1,000 years.

I forgot who said it but your statement about utopias reminded me of this: "One person's utopia is another's hell." It helps to put idealization into perspective.

I watched 5 of your videos in a row and time flew so fast! It's way more than cool stories or interesting places. Your storytelling is amazing, one I wish to achieve one day, as I myself aspire to write about our world in an non obvious way, in an artistic way, as you do. Thank you for inspiring me to keep going. Your videos made my day!

@beatrizscatolin5201

Жыл бұрын

this is so sweet! I felt the same, Thomas!

"But while god might be dead, all corpses feed fungus" What a clever line!

Without disagreeing with the point of the video, we should also recognize that what we know and believe our academic knowledge currently demonstrates, does not mean it is a permanent absolute, especially when it comes to history. As an example, we can look at Troy. Although Homer's story was known and read for hundreds+ of years, it was believed to be entirely mythical and academically we believed that it was certain that Troy had never existed. Yet, due to human persistence and curiosity we now know that Troy, as a settlement/city, did in fact exist. Although the Trojan war/Greek attacks on the city cannot be proven and were once believed to be entirely false, we now know that at least the city did in fact exist. That is why, although we should not believe every single aspect of the historical accounts and modern revisions of Altantis, we should most likely remain open and curious about whether or not a place known as Atlantis ever existed. In the video you seem to ridicule the idea of Atlantis by explaining parts of its creation/origin myth, yet many of the cities we know and live in have comparatively ridiculous creation myths (I.E. Rome, Athens).

There are so many places that somehow seem connected and since it is hard to date rock, they remain undated. Then again the environment tells a tale, placement, context, known history and also some of the rocks themself seems to be molded and made as a geopolymer. And I hardly think Hancock has spearheaded this, this has a long story with many people from independant to nonindependant researchers.

Can i just say how much I love your sense of humor? It's very clear to me that you and your father share that. And I'm here for that.

Incredible. I feel like you made this video for me specifically, it's exactly what I needed to hear right now. I've been noticing the existential crisises that our society is seemingly conquering together right now, slowly

Thank you for the upload, it was fantastic!

My own rule around rabbit holes; If you do go in, but don't see rabbits . . . you're not in a rabbit hole. When mythology becomes Mythology, it's intent is to remember. The myths we're creating right now will never convey what actually happened, despite our best efforts. As a species, we're very much prone to mold that memory into our social structure to convey our story instead. After even one molding, the original memory is gone. Fully 3/4 of the planet firmly believes some magic fairy or another from some other realm sits on their shoulder and guides them through life. And we fully accept each and every one of those religions. We don't ridicule them, despite them having changed those 'beliefs' over the same time to reflect their own time, ethics, and interactions. None of our legends, myths, or parables remain true to the original. It's how people work. Plato did the very same thing Hancock and Carlson are doing - taking mythology and altering it to fit his message. More than likely, the Egyptians also molded whatever they understood as the myth into their own cultural parables. The worst issue around Atlantis is that you DO see a few rabbits in the Plato Dialogues. Mythology is based in forgotten events and altered through time, but tidbits can remain. It's most helpful to stop thinking of ice age humans as cave men. None of the three or four species of human around at the time really lived in caves. Most of the remains found in cave environments have been left there after animals gnawed the last of the gristle off the bone. That date thing as well. It does seem strange that it points directly at Meltwater Pulse 1B, which was 80 or so meters rise in less than a year for most of the globe. Recent excavations off the coast at Atlit show the sudden flooding of communities along the shores of the Mediterranean, which over 9,000 years ago had domesticated crops and animals integrated into a fully modern city. People have always lived along the coasts, and we've always lived in communities, villages, and towns and we've always traded with far off groups of similar communities. For tens of thousands of years. What constitutes a civilization? We've always had the same civilization, it's just our level of technology that ebbs and flows.

Evan, like a lot of Rare Earth videos this focuses on the exact problem better than almost anything. We don't ever see our blind spots. We can't know everything and so we fill in the blanks with what we think should be and boy do we stink at that.

"everybody shoots the messenger but it was mostly erosion" is a great line

4:04 this clip caught my attention more than what you were explaining which keywords did you use to find these early 20th century greek soldiers marching ?

14:23 "It's just that with plate tectonics now as common in the average mind as psychedelic drugs," that line was legit poetry

As somebody with a big fascination for ancient history and mythology, and whose father had a weird fascination with blavatsky, aliens, etc... This video needs to be seen by as many people as possible...

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and sometimes a myth is just a myth.

Great video. Please make more of these videos on bigger stories like these.

Hey bro, what if the Atlantis myth was based off a real lost civilization? Rare Earth- "You're a nazi!"

@RareEarthSeries

Жыл бұрын

"hey bro, what if the reason you even know the term atlantis at all was because it was an invention of nazi-era race mythology"

@pengumpkin7993

Жыл бұрын

@@RareEarthSeries Why does it even matter how it was originally popularized? It is very clear that the idea of Atlantis and the modern ideas surrounding it have long since departed and diverged from nazi-era race mythology or anything similar to it.

@Zanthorr

Жыл бұрын

@@RareEarthSeries Yeah I had no idea it was related to nazi's or anything like that. Honestly- you would make a waaay better docuseries than Hancock. Talking about cutting stone with sound waves lmao

@RareEarthSeries

Жыл бұрын

Because the reason you're out on a search is that a person 150 years ago said you'd find racism in the forest. Now you're asking why you can't just search in the forest without it being connected to the people who sent you out searching. You can't remove a branch from the root. It only started branching because of that root. Being ignorant of why you're discussing something doesn't mean history didn't happen. It departed from the root in public terms, but by upholding this specific island under these specific circumstances you're unknowingly repeating exactly the thing they set you out to believe.

I love your work. Sometimes you seem to stray off into leaps of logic however I love your presentation and I find your conclusions intriguing (even if I do not always agree).

Mr. Peabody & Sherman (the talking boy and time traveling dog) were from the Bullwinkle and Rocky cartoon that aired from ‘59 to ‘64… a long time before the ‘80s. Although it was in repeats for decades after it originally aired.

I was thinking all along that hey that sort of looks like Austria, had a very similar view in Bad Aussee... then in the credits it turns out it's indeed Austria! Willkommen!:) I remember you responded on another comment of mine that you also have family in Hungary (where i'm from) , but it's cool to see that you also got some connections in Austria (where I live). You have quite the central european heritage it seems:) I guess it's a human evolutionariy instinct to recognize these sort of similarities and then letting the others know, but overall i'm just glad you have a perspective on this region too. (And secretly hoping you'll end up making videos about Austria and/or Hungary one day).

Platos story is most likely made up. But the idea that there were neolithic cities on some islands in the atlantic doesnt seem that crazy.

I never knew Plato was such a big "source: bro trust me" kind of guy.

@RareEarthSeries

Жыл бұрын

in Ancient Greece historians sometimes cited their own dreams as a source

@excellent_name

Жыл бұрын

@@RareEarthSeries Plato and Solon didn't

@RareEarthSeries

Жыл бұрын

Plato, the guy who literally invented the concept of the noble lie, never lied for noble reasons? Lol ok

Thank you for making this even though you didn't want to, it was a captivating take on idea history and religion. Did you read Arthur Koestler's *Sleepwalkers*? Until the credits I was sure you were in Norway. I like how the descending cloud layer marked the passage of time as you spoke.

The cut on "Well, some of us did." is a hell of a thing

Evan you have another masterpiece. Your realism, or "skepticism" as Randal would call it, is appreciated.

Out of all the languages Evan could talk, he chose to speak void.

“Just like improv. Every ‘Yes, and’ has to escalate…” Man, this guy’s writing (and subsequent narration) is just brilliant.

The most frustrating thing reading these comments is how many people are trying to "make it true" by trying to match parts of the story to real events. Here's a city that got flooded! Here's an ancient culture with some cool architecture! One guy made a story up and thousands of years later we have to debate whether Neverland was a real place. Maybe Peter Pan is Nebuchadnezzar and the fairies were a metaphor for drugs. OR, it's a story. Just a tale.

"Facts never got in the way of a good story" - my dad, who also got me into the book: The Baltic Origins of Homer's Epic Tales: The Iliad, the Odyssey, and the Migration of Myth Which is a good read, and also contains Atlantis. It is way less exciting though (and is just Doggerland). Oh and very good video. I love these.

Looked for the Brother XII article mentioned in the text at the end but couldn't track it down. Does anyone know where I can read it?

@RareEarthSeries

Жыл бұрын

It isn't one article he wrote hundreds and they're usually very hard to find, but he's a good central figure for the race occultism of the early 20th century

"To answer the question in the title: No." That's exactly how you get me to keep watching. lol

If Evan writes his own material, it is very nicely written, almost poetical. He may be a poet, even if he doesn't know it :-) Moooaaarrrr!!!!!

@RareEarthSeries

Жыл бұрын

I do. thanks!

Holy shit, this is the best superficial historical overview into esotericism and conspiracism (and their links to the far right) I have ever seen, and I wrote my thesis on the topic!

@RareEarthSeries

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@ez45

Жыл бұрын

​​@@RareEarthSeries comes from the heart. And the way you're able to put it all into a human perspective, a narrative.. what I am saying is you are pretty good at what you are doing, keep doing it.

Outstanding video, very thought provoking. You're videos are definitely reaching new levels.

Text wise, in terms of construction of narrative, logic structuring of facts, this was your best movie so far (yes, I've seen all of them you posted). Congratulations. It was fantastic.

Love the quick Mr. Peabody and Sherman appearance (most of you have no idea what I am talking about...age has it's benefits)

@norlockv

Жыл бұрын

Did they show that one in Canada? I believe Dudley Doright was censored.

@xerzy

Жыл бұрын

I mean, there was the 2014 movie, so it shouldn't be *that* hard to remember...

@scpatl4now

Жыл бұрын

@@xerzy I was thinking more Bullwinkle...did not even know there was a 2014 movie. Age also has it's liabilities

@scpatl4now

Жыл бұрын

@@norlockv Did they have Bullwinkle?

@xerzy

Жыл бұрын

@@scpatl4now Funny thing, when I was a very young child I also got to see the 2000 movie of Rocky and Bullwinkle, although that one _probably_ is far more obscure these days... (oh and there's also the Prime Video show but nobody watched that one)

Actually, from a universe point of view, we already live in Utopia. Its that we just don't appreciate it - and are blind to recognize what was given to us.

"The only echos a void ever sends back are those that we shout into it."

I'm of an age that I played Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, the Indy movie that never was made but you could play on PC. So much of this reminds me of that game, which means the devs probably read the same sources.

@gemberts

Жыл бұрын

Same here, and every time I see something about 'Atlantis may be under [location]', I realise how exploring the myth through that game so early in my life was like a form of inoculation, now immune to falling for the grift... In this one particular area. The game didn't shy away from how connected the myth was to the idea of the creation of an Uberman (which, yknow, was literally the antagonist's surname), and as I grew up and learned about the world, it became apparent that the mysticism around ascendent beings and lost civilisations is often so firmly rooted in these horrific ideologies. Seeing this channel essentially say this, in a much more poetic way, was unexpected catharsis for me today.

weird vibes on this vid...

Yet again you have slammed it home 💯 well done my friend 😉❤️

@lynettecarter9887

Жыл бұрын

Always

Like you said, Plato’s Atlantis was a story aimed at the contemporary Persian Empire threat. The drown world, sunken city and far away, big swell ocean combine for his telling of a common folk legend.☮️

I thought Plato invented Atlantis as a mythical nation he used in his lessons when teaching students.

It's a shame Socrates/Plato's hot takes on Atlantis weren't looked into during Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.

Hi From Azores ❤️ 🇵🇹

on google earth you can tell in that region the land was once up sea level but got break in half and sunken....

The 3 A's - Angels, Aliens & Atlantis... scratch ANY modern "myth" & you're gonna find One of them!

Thank you for this thorough response to the nonsense that is spreading faster again because of that Charlatan. Out of a sense of wonder I delved into that grotesque but alluring side of historical fiction through authors like Hancock, West and even D.H. Childress when I was young and discovered for myself the things you describe here. It is heartbreaking to see these ancient manipulations being so successful today but it just goes to show, There are so many bugs in the software.

I watched Graham Hancocks show on Netflix. I was waiting for the craziness to begin, but it never did. I feel he is treated a bit unfairly guys. To lump him in with the nut cases talking about aliens, nephtalim, crystal energies, etc... not fair. He puts forward a fascinating hypothesis that perhaps civilazation goes further back than we realize. Admittedly this idea of stone age evangelists traveling across the globe... a bit shaky. But overall he has some very interesting ideas... and he sadly gets dismissed out of pure dogmatic dedication to current theories. I love the current theories... but I just think we shouldnt be dogmatically dedicated to them. Thats always a mistake.

@pederchristopher

Жыл бұрын

Having said that... your video is excellent in drawing the connection between the occult, racial pseudoscience, and new age ideas... amazing stuff. And I agree, we long for magic in the world, so much that we will go along with some of this craziness. Sad, but human.

@danunpronounceable8559

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, the only criticism I have of his show is the lack of representation of real archeologists. If another season comes out I would expect this

@pederchristopher

Жыл бұрын

​@@danunpronounceable8559 yes. I think they dont want to touch him with a 10 foot pole... career suicide. But thats part of the problem for why pseudoscience flourishes... the people who can ACTUALLY fact check these upstarts dont want to engage. Its very cultish behaviour on the part of the archaeologists. The tend to go for ad hominem atacks... rather than pointing out the actual flaws in the theory.

@RareEarthSeries

3 ай бұрын

If you think the reason Hancock is dismissed is because of dogmatic sticking to prevalent theories you have not done enough research into what peer reviewed and repeatable science says about Hancock's theories. People don't engage with him because he sells lies to quasi-religious supporters, and in our world there is no benefit to presenting fact to those yearning for dogma. It doesn't teach people, it just makes you the enemy of their ideology. He has been disproven by experts countless times, and yet even in your own worldview claiming to want him to be disproven, these dozens of scientific returns to reality haven't been enough (or, clearly, even looked into at all). To call this cultish behaviour on the behalf of archaeologists is wild. Absolutely the opposite of reality, and with zero genuine backing outside of what the pseudoscientists say about archaeology.

I think that people like Heinrich Schliemann often have an energy to prove that a myth is somehow rooted in some sort of truth, even taking things literally. And somethimes like Heinrich Schliemann they get lucky and find remnants of what could match the myths. Even if it's done in a destructive and misguided way. My point of view is that the artefacts of human presence are fragile and very brittle, most materials that are commonly used decay too quiclky for us to get them on record. In fact nobody believed that the pre-colombian Amazon river basin was home to millions of people, once they died out of imported plagues the wooden frames fell down and roted away. Anything that could have existed more than ten thousand years ago of some sort of early advanced civilization is extremelly difficult to find and verify, and even our current knowledge of early recorded civiliations has massive holes. And we are still lucky that the sumerians chose clay as writting material and not a sheep's skin, cause if that was the case then we probably would have the same understading of them as we have of the Harappan civilization.

Very informative. I was listening to the comet podcast episode without context, and assumed it was a scientific debate.

If Atlantis was highly advanced why didn't other cultures copy it?

@TombaFanatic

Жыл бұрын

Dude, like, pyramids, man

@agrippa.the.cosmonaut-wiz

Жыл бұрын

I don't believe the mythical Atlantis was real, but that question is not really a gatcha to disprove it. One could say that other cultures DID copy it, and inspired architectural styles in ancient Greece and even before that the Minoans. Or something like that. But again, I don't think it was real. Maybe there were a couple of idyllic isles that sailors talked up and those stories spread and escalated and inspired Platos fable.

@RareEarthSeries

Жыл бұрын

The only reason we believe in Atlantis is because race science fanatics made it popular enough to re-enter the public psyche. Trying to disprove it in my opinion is more about telling the history of race science media popularization than the exacts of their island claims. They'll just move on to new claims. Always do.

@GR1MRACER

Жыл бұрын

@@RareEarthSeries I mean like they said they had plumbing, what if a visitor at the time showed up and started asking questions like "where my poop go?"

@RareEarthSeries

Жыл бұрын

@@GR1MRACER they also said they were telekinetic magicians who were ruled by a demigod alien, so ya know

If just about any other KZread channel had this title for a video I wouldn't be watching, but I watch Rare Earth videos whenever I see them.

The best time travel podcast on KZread.

Reality and Science is always more fascinating than Any conspiracy. Thanks for the straight talk.

Firstly, I have to say I am leery of conspiracy theory people. I like this video and I would be remiss if I didn't say it is thoughtful. I've watched that netflix series done by Hancock and found it thought-provoking, not falling into a mindlessness. I have never cared for the Atlantis story, so I didn't pay much attention to that. However, the new findings in Turkey and other places do suggest that we know next to nothing, as is your assertion, if you are being honest with us. These ancient places being unearthed do represent a problem for modern archaeology and they will need to address them instead of just dismissing all of it out of hand. I noticed you did not address those things in this video, and that seems to be problematic for me. You had a point to make, and to make it you had to try to make others seem like weirdos (and they may be). You intentionally left those parts out about Turkey, etc. I like your channel and will continue to watch your videos, but next time introduce a little more balance instead of focusing on one small part of the "conspiracy theory" community to paint your picture of humans as stupid and blind.

@RareEarthSeries

Жыл бұрын

Which archaeology, specifically, do you think dismisses the archaeology that archaeologists found? Seems like you listen to the charlatans about what the science says rather than the scientists.

and here i was watching the beginning of this video, and thinking: "where the hell are you? that looks like Austria." and I was proven right at min 0:38

Well, Evan, at 19:38 you summarize why I don't click on your videos every time I see them. That said, when I do, I (almost) always enjoy what you have to say. I wish more people would spend time listening to a mostly rational person like yourself, and as your credits page always reminds us, that they would still take it all with a side of critical thinking.

Idk Carlson and Hancock made some pretty good arguments. I don't think they're trying to make any concrete claims about Atlantis or anything, they're just trying to find some real life justification for the origins of common myths.

@RareEarthSeries

Жыл бұрын

This video is a look into why they're common myths that are being looked into, when you understand what makes them common it changes the perspective of the search

@maxl.3459

Жыл бұрын

@Rare Earth I totally agree. I'm sorry I should've clarified. I'm talking about myths like the Great Flood and other cataclysms, not anything like Mu or Lemuria. From what I've gathered of Carlson and Hancock's work, they're just saying that rapid sea level rise erased a lot of archeological evidence of civilizations on the coast. I know they're a little hokey, but a lot of their evidence seemed legit. Idk if I missed some of their other claims that are more outlandish?

@RareEarthSeries

Жыл бұрын

If a lot of the evidence seems legit on first listen but isn't when studied scientifically, we call that pseudoscience. They sell a lie, simply put. It's outlandish particularly when you realize the thing they're trying to prove only exists in their minds because of the journey I've described here. The hidden history of why.

@lindaevans5044

29 күн бұрын

Plate tectonics was pseudoscience at first. Now it's not. Some people thought the earth was flat, some didn't. If people would open their minds a bit - not to avidly devour every theory as a new gospel, but to hold things open for consideration - maybe the ground would be less fallow for conspiracy theories and facts would be allowed to come forth sooner.@@RareEarthSeries

Damn it, a rare earth video I didnt like or agree with, this is a first.

Azores in portuguese is called Açores. Notice the letter Ç in the name, absent in english, ence why the use of a z in its english name. The archipelago are named after the portuguese name for the sea kestrel. Ironically, the actual birds who were seen by the first navigators was another spieces of bird but the name stuck. Each of the 9 islands have their own quaint names: São Miguel: Saint Michael Santa Maria: Saint Mary Terceira: The Third One Graciosa: Graceful São Jorge: Saint George Faial: Fir land Pico: Peak Flores: Flowers Corvo: Crow

I met an Atlantian once. He gave me directions to the souvenir shop.

science can definitely tell you yes. the LHC said yes they were right that the higgs boson exists. amazing vid as always, cheers mate.

@RareEarthSeries

Жыл бұрын

Technically that's not true. What the scientific method actually says is that the Higgs boson 'doesn't not' exist. It can't affirm a positive, as there is always further room for a negative.

The fuzzy period when people were sophisticated enough to start making organized societies and building stuff but weren't yet writing anything down is a fascinating part of our history filled with genuine amazing things to be found and mysteries to be solved with the meager evidence we can find. In lap up any good documentary I can find in this and have more than once been intensely disappointed to discover 20 minutes in that it's Graham Hancock's quackery. The guy uses just enough genuine evidence to sound credible and the debunking can be really obscure at times. I'm sure the truth would be just as interesting as the nonsense if only we knew it all.

3:35 I'm pretty sure the two Atlases aren't actually the same character.

@RareEarthSeries

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I messed that up, it was a demigod atlas of a different variety

what if i can point the center of atlantis . whit others infratructures around that center amd pin point a wall of 1200km by 5km perfectly straigh, woud u believe me ?

@azorian888

10 ай бұрын

egypt was after atlantis and the pyramides, are made whit atlantean teck.

Very well said. Especially the bit about echoes from the void, gave me shivers.

I think Graham Hancock's series ask interesting questions regarding how many megalithic structures have strong correlations to astronomy, and the reasons why this may be

19:37 "Not that I'm one to talk." Ok, I'm calling BS here. We all know who your dad is, but c'mon Evan; you're amazing in your own right!

Humans have been phenotypically “modern” for about 70,000 years since the human genome bottlenecked after the Toba Event. Advanced human civilizations from about 13,000 years ago after the Younger Dryas impact event. The sea levels have risen 400 feet since then.

Wow...a video on Wednesday! Nice surprise!

@RareEarthSeries

Жыл бұрын

If I don't feel it is up to my normal fare I release on a wednesday :)

@michaelcherry8952

Жыл бұрын

@@RareEarthSeries Nothing you release is anything less than wonderful. You set yourself very high standards indeed if something like this is "not up to my normal fare"!

Atlantis is a resort in the Bahamas but I doubt it could ever be as fun as this video. 👍

I find it very creepy that right after I started wondering where you went you suddenly released a video.

This may be your best piece of writing. It won't get huge views, but it's amazing.

You got some of your magic back in this episode! I had never put together the race-basis of Blavatsky, et al., before, but it is pretty blatant. Thanks, Evan!

This was phenomenal. The word structure and plot points are some of the best writing I've through thousands of films and across my many years of college. Well done.

I have watched some of Graham Hancock's stuff and as far as I can tell he doesn't say anything akin to magical people or Atlantis. Mostly it's a sea fairing agricultural society that developed some where that is now covered by water. I don't necessarily agree with him. It does seem possible. I wouldn't pay a nickle for his book I wil kill a couple hours at work listening to all kinds of stuff.

@RareEarthSeries

Жыл бұрын

He says the modernist iteration of the same fantasy. Each generation tailored to the prevailing winds of what lets them get away with it. But the concept of Atlantis didn't come out of nowhere. If you sell it, you're selling from the root. They're trying to prove a thing existed that was invented by very specific people, for a specific reason, at a specific time. He might not sell the occultism, but he sure as shit sells their island.

@kloc072386

Жыл бұрын

@@RareEarthSeries at least what he is saying is getting people interested in our early history and the dude does make some decent points. Whether it's the dates of ancient megalithic sites like the sphinx having water erosion or how dogmatic archeologists were about Clovis first in the Americas. Hopefully we start trying to look at the areas now under water. Even if it is to prove Graham wrong. You have to admit it would be way cooler if he wasn't. My humble opinion, I love your channel and thank you for interacting with me.

@RareEarthSeries

Жыл бұрын

He sells fantasy and if he presented it that way I'd have no problem with it. It's the whole 'renegade scientist at odds with the system' that gets me. The man is a prophet of a religion, and nothing more. Nothing he has ever said has been shown to be anything except a wishful fantasy, and I've yet to see a single point of his that was still "decent" when actually put through the scientific method.

I mean, very poetic, but what were you actually saying?

@RareEarthSeries

Жыл бұрын

That the basis of the concept of Atlantis is founded on very ridiculous lies popularized to uphold race science and then filtered through the death of singular religious authority.

@Pedanta

Жыл бұрын

@@RareEarthSeries I see, thank you

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