People or should that be snobs who say "oh Chinese is it, it'll only last ****'s" make me laugh, they just cant grasp that almost everything in there home, car and life is now made in the far east or made from components that were made in the far east. Yes some Chinese watches are cheap fashion watches that aren't great but the Chinese are also capable of making some great watches too and at very affordable prices too. I know these same people will think I'm mad but likewise I think they are made for spending £4K on say a Tudor watch that will lose more than the cost of one of these Aesops as soon as you leave the showroom. Tell me I'm mad or wrong, you choose?

Excellent stuff! I really enjoyed watching the macro footage and listening to your explanation Gary! I'm digging the aventurine dial watch but that recent watch is rather weird. Edit: I believe I did spot newer versions of this sparkly dial watch with centered pinion in the middle of the dial. What keeps me from buying it is the fact that it's rather large at 42.5 mm.

NICE vid, I have yet to buy a Tourbillon. When I first started collecting watches back in the 70s a Tourbillon was just unaffordable. In recent years I have seen them come down to very affordable price points but yet to buy one. I would wear either one in your video. I will have to do some searching for one to add to my collection, I know a few people who own watches with Chinese made Tourbillon movements and they are all very pleased with their watches and I consider them watch snobs who always push Swiss made watches.

I bought the GIV hand wind one and it's been excellent, no issues at all with it and people just love looking at it!

Hi Gary, fab video as usual. Really liking these tourbillion movements, however, not to keen on the dials. Please buy that grey one so we can all get a good look at it as it a good potential purchase.

ahhh.. glad you did the difference between these, been wondering what it was... Thanks Gary.

Super cool complication, great dimensions and crazy price. I love that they've gone all out on the tourbillion. Sets them apart from the rest

Thanks for the clarification Gary. I read up on it a few months ago and came to the same conclusion about the Chinese movements (that they are indeed tourbillons and not carrousels). I think the confusion stems from ignorant people trying to dismiss these movements

I agree with your choice, if I were to purchase one of these I would get the grey dial watch.

Okay after some digging i found the movement maker, it is basically a heavily modded 8215, if u search hard enough in google, u can find the company name is shenzen zhikeda technology, some named it sanyin w20, in the catalog they could even mod nh35, 9015 and 8215 to a 6 o'clock moonphase or a separated 2 digit date with a 24 hour dial for nh35, its crazy what the china watchmaker could do

@rebel5775

3 ай бұрын

Can you explain in more simple terms please

that one with stars looks incredible..

Personally, it’s as exciting as a roundabout. +7s, crown came out after 2/3 weeks ownership, seller accepted return. Black case scratches easy, recommend silver option.

@mrmagoo.3678

Жыл бұрын

really? lol.. oh.. thanks for the heads up.

I have the aventurine watch and love it!

Hi mate! Amazing video, I’ve just bought this watch from you, I’m going to be bastardising it and putting it in a vintage Swiss dive homage case set I’ve got, I think it will be great fun, I’ll update you when I can for you to see!

How is the watch running now? I'm thinking about buying one for my son.

I really want an Aragon central tourbillion divemaster. Its an awesome watch but $1000 is a little steep.

Nice.

What nobody seems to talk about is servicing. How much does a full service cost?

I do like the clear through look of the second one, but that star is a bit wacky. Would be nice as a straight up skeleton (I have a Miyota standards skeleton in a foI do like the clear through look of the second one, but that star is a bit wacky. Would be nice as a straight up skeleton

Yes, a very interesting review on an interesting, if quirky, topic. i have an Orient skeleton which meets my needs for a "conversation starter" mechanical watch . . . although so far my customized Datejust and bronze Oris Sixty Five homages seem to have it beat on that score. My central problem with the tourbillon is simply that the complication doesn't do anything constructive; it is indeed complexity for its own sake. Our mid-market Chinese three hander movements seem remarkably durable and "fit for purpose" to me (insofar as any mechanical watch can be in this age) and i my hard economist's heart can't seem to be persuaded to go for no-benefit complication. So i am fascinated by them and thank you for the video . . . but shall pass by.

I love that china offers these watch movements Pieces of art for any watch collector Because I don't think any of us will actually own a swiss one You dont buy these for accuracy or taking them for a swim or any other sports for that matter I have a couple from US companies and love them Great video my friend 👍

Thanks Gary 🙏 I'll have to rewatch I'm still confused about the difference between the two complications I've been waiting for someone to explain .

@dinizbortolotto

Жыл бұрын

Hi Junior! See links in my comment on this video. ;-)

I haven’t decided yet about buying one of those, but I owned previously a nautec no limit watch with the same movement as the first, and it worked flawlessly for the 3-4 years I had it, and I bought it preowned. Back then such a watch was around £800 so costs have dropped a lot, but I think the assumption they will break simply because the movements are Chinese is a bit of an outdated notion. Of these two featured I actually prefer the square one.

That skeletonized watch you are wearing looks so cool and masculine. I do not think it's a copied homage design am I right?

tourbillon or carrousel the difference is not completely clear for me. which one is the most accurate and valuable ? may be you Can explain that to us in another video? thanks for your very interesting job on watches présentations that i follow as much as i Can!!!

Just wow.

Not keen on these watches but the teal one has a really mesmerizing effect! The 6th one

No mention of the Agelocer Tourbillon?

@ilikewatches

4 ай бұрын

Why would I?

This version you bought has a flying tourbillon, I’m noticing some have carrousel and other flying

I didn't know there was a tool that identified crystal/glass!!! What is this tool called? What are the smallest tourbillion and carrousel watches? I prefer for my watches not to be too big.

What about the exhibition case back🙈🇬🇧

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Where'd you get that clock?

@prospect_joe9813

Жыл бұрын

Nevermind, I found it on amazon

Not sure what's more impressive, it's price or the fact it's still working after 18 months. JK. Definitely prefer the style of the square model but nots its size. Definitely needs to be a smaller for a dress style watch.

I am not able to buy from Ali express! I don't have the technology nor do I have the money to pay the import taxes and other fees incurred to get it to where I live! I

Disposable or worth servicing?

@ilikewatches

Жыл бұрын

Worth servicing I think…if the price is right…

These can't be serviced (my guess) so they are pretty much disposable should they break - they look cool and for the price you can't really argue can you

No need for Tourbillon or carousel or chronograph either so if you enjoy it, why not?

Definitely the one on the left is the prettier watch out of the two but neither one is my cup of tea.. I really don’t get skeleton watches I like to glance at my watch for the time not have to study it for five minutes to work it out

@NathanChisholm041

Жыл бұрын

You dont buy skeleton watches for the easy of use its to admire the movement! Get a Seiko 5! Its a much better deal...

I don't particularly like it, neither would I buy one. However, the fact that it even exists at this price-point is amazing!

Unconvinced. Just looked up in google the Blancpain Tourbillon Carousel watch. That thing, as the name suggests, has both complications, and the carousel one looks very close to the starry Aesop you showed. I do not think there is any disadvantage to either one of these grand complications. The sole reason carousel exists is that Breguet’s patents had to be worked around by other watchmaker, Bonniksen :)

question is…how r we gonna get this service..?

@mirasga

Жыл бұрын

Buy a new one

if they took that planetary design off the dial, i think it would be spot on with that sparkly "aventurine" dial

@diegomadrigal5658

Күн бұрын

boring mf

The square one with the big lume star on it is one of the ugliest watches I've ever seen haha

worst strap EVER!!!!!! had to switch it out ...its impossible to put on!!!

Not keen on these type of watches. Don't see the need for a tourbillon/carousel in a wrist watch other than to look showy. Given the accuracy 🤣achieved by these two I wouldn't waste my money.👎👎👎⌚😴

Just found this customer review on the San Martin official store - quote: "Will be wearing it for a p*rn casting - Thank you very much!" Edit: also out of all watches it was on their field watch lol

Nearly $500 smackers here in Australia there's no way in hell this watch is worth $500aud! While its nice to look at these Aliexpress watches have really jumped up in price over the years and aren't worth it anymore for a brandless watch! I just bought a stunning Seiko chrono with sapphire for $320 aud from creation watches. A far better option.