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@Anarquistas1

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/head/PLygqavJysUHJhpSxXn2jf2QqZp9Bic_ef

@sweetbeanpaste6987

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anarquistas1 pppppppppppppp

@sweetbeanpaste6987

2 жыл бұрын

@aua ✓ lmao whoops

@fluentpiffle

2 жыл бұрын

The only genuine 'leader' is wisdom born of a respect for truth.. It is the severe lack of naturalised 'elder wisdom' that leads to the kind of politicised world we suffer today. When the Europeans invaded the Americas they saw themselves as having the 'right' to obliterate everything from a position of 'superiority', where in fact they couldn't have been more wrong; replacing a self-sustaining series of inter-connected micro systems based on elder-wisdom philosophy with a savage greed for self-interest, leading ultimately to self-destructive behaviour.. It all really boils down to control. External, ever increasing and changing forms of control by exterior and self-interested 'forces', or personal responsibility through self-control, which negates the need for the external, but does still require a form of on-going and naturally evolving wisdom tradition.. Neither are without problems, but the wisdom option can see where those problems arise and has the ability to deal successfully with them. It also has the added bonus of never blindly sinking into a self-destructive state, and thus will remain sustainable..

@vladstanovyi6411

Жыл бұрын

Nestor Makhno left the chat.

The core of anarchy is that no human has power of other humans,

@dissocialdolphin8518

3 жыл бұрын

​@Spartan 506 Elaborate, pls

@dissocialdolphin8518

3 жыл бұрын

@Spartan 506 Yes I agree that power relationship exist and are inherent to our western societies, but that doesn't necessarily mean that is a natural quality of humans to rule over others and be ruled by others (one of the pillars of communism / anarchism is that investigations have shown that primitive societies relied on cooperation rather than hierachization).

@fuckamericanidiot

3 жыл бұрын

And if anyone wants to follow or be lead by someone else, that potential leader of men can be killed. But then in order to kill him effectively, there needs to be some organisation or direction to make it happen and that needs a leader. There must be equal agreement at all times and if someone naturally tries to take charge rip his throat out.

@fuckamericanidiot

3 жыл бұрын

@Spartan 506 Exactly, people write books about what anarchy looks like and how to achieve it - it still has the same horrible result.

@spiritualanarchist8162

3 жыл бұрын

People keep telling themselves 'Humans always *lived like that' .That's not true. Hierarcy started once someone put lines on a piece of land and said 'this is mine', and the rest believed it. Tribes in the amazon live without 'rulers right now. ' .So it's possible.

Fun Fact: William Godwin was married to Mary Wollstonecraft and their daughter, Mary, was the wife of Percy Shelley. She wrote a little something called Frankenstein.

@benjaminhamel5280

3 жыл бұрын

while she was in a lodge with Lord Byron

@josephstalin7389

2 жыл бұрын

And the rich get richer and poor get poorer

@landlockedcroat1554

2 жыл бұрын

dont care

@pillmuncher67

2 жыл бұрын

@@landlockedcroat1554 Yeah, you don't care so much that you write a comment.

@pillmuncher67

2 жыл бұрын

@@josephstalin7389 Another Fun Fact: William Godwin was an Anarchist before it was cool.

Everybody should have a home, nobody should be involuntarily hungry, people should not be imprisoned and stigmatized for possessing an illegal substance. The surveillance state is the most rapidly progressing enterprise because those with the wealth and power realize people are realizing how corrupt this corporatocracy is

@eriksatie4061

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with all of this but because my country doesnt offer education on political systems or thought I don't know what I would be called.

@eriksatie4061

3 жыл бұрын

@Abraham Serafino how my country literally tells people you are old enough to vote at 18 even though we never get recieve solid foundation to base our politics off of. It's why their are so many people voting against their own interest.

@eriksatie4061

3 жыл бұрын

@Abraham Serafino Wow insults that means you have a good point. You are the type of swine that makes it easy for the politicians to control us the way they do.

@eriksatie4061

3 жыл бұрын

@Abraham Serafino I live in the US you fucking moron

@mcrainbowoeslak1603

3 жыл бұрын

Abraham Serafino Um. I believe you’re the troll here. 😂

I love being an anarchist. I wish I would've known about this movement sooner.

@hughmann706

Жыл бұрын

Anarchist means I can shoot you in the head without consequences. What's so great about that? Everybody would shoot everybody in the head until one guy takes control and puts order and we're back to Kings.

@skye9293

Жыл бұрын

Fr

@ssg9offical

Жыл бұрын

Same

@sarahoitmann3900

10 ай бұрын

same

@pandaakacheekclapper8069

8 ай бұрын

You’re not a anarchist if you don’t practice it lol

I found out in history class, I was an anarchist (mutualism), when I was about 10, 40 years ago, but kept it quiet because it was spoken about only negatively. Yet I could find nothing wrong with their principles and manifests.

@nxght6694

Жыл бұрын

many people exhibit willful ignorance.

@hughmann706

Жыл бұрын

Well, I like the fact that people are deterred from shooting me in the back of the head because the government will punish them. But that's just me.

@user-od4ss5dh2x

Жыл бұрын

yeah

@universal5459

Жыл бұрын

suspiciously and coincidently, all other types of society types are talked negetively about. In truth, capitalism is (by far) not the best societal system but i think it was innevitable. Someone somewhere will innevitably become on top and innevitably that would be unfair and now so nobody notice, they talk badly about other types of societies in schools. Everyones original and greatest source of information

@quentinblake485

Жыл бұрын

@@universal5459 anarchy is inevitable too, in fact, it’s next !

You should revisit this and explore the transition from classical to modern anarchism

@hellatze

4 жыл бұрын

Cry in chaz

@zeroclout6306

3 жыл бұрын

@@hellatze im not talking about U.S. wankery im talking about international Platformism and especifismo

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

The naturian anarchists explained by a young girl. kzread.info/dash/bejne/YnWdra-doZy3is4.html

@elainevuong5259

2 жыл бұрын

More anarchism videos!!!

@zeroclout6306

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidhays2846 idk why first world white leftists being tone deff is an indictment of platformism as an organizational strategy. The AK Press Collective worked with Alexander to help gather evidence on Schmidt and, although I can't speak for whatever "milieu" you are involved in, I at least don't know anyone who went to bat for the fascist. This whole subject strikes me as an indictment against whoever you were particularly organizing with if anything and not necessarily Platformism or Especifismo as an organizational principle. Unless ofc you're saying that being infiltrated should be seen as a failure. If so it's definitely not a failure that's remotely unique to us. Maybe don't throw the baby out with the bath water idk.

Thank you for sharing the truth about Anarchism rather than the myopic public opinion most people hold.

@fluentpiffle

2 жыл бұрын

The only genuine 'leader' is wisdom born of a respect for truth.. It is the severe lack of naturalised 'elder wisdom' that leads to the kind of politicised world we suffer today. When the Europeans invaded the Americas they saw themselves as having the 'right' to obliterate everything from a position of 'superiority', where in fact they couldn't have been more wrong; replacing a self-sustaining series of inter-connected micro systems based on elder-wisdom philosophy with a savage greed for self-interest, leading ultimately to self-destructive behaviour.. It all really boils down to control. External, ever increasing and changing forms of control by exterior and self-interested 'forces', or personal responsibility through self-control, which negates the need for the external, but does still require a form of on-going and naturally evolving wisdom tradition.. Neither are without problems, but the wisdom option can see where those problems arise and has the ability to deal successfully with them. It also has the added bonus of never blindly sinking into a self-destructive state, and thus will remain sustainable..

@hughmann706

Жыл бұрын

@@fluentpiffle Those Indians were sacrificing children to their gods so they weren't so innocent either. If anything the less savage "savages" won, we should all be glad else we'd be like Mexico.

@MisstyG

Жыл бұрын

If I "most people" you mean sane, mature adults.....you should listen to most people.

@Pushing_Pixels

Жыл бұрын

@@MisstyG And by "sane, mature adult" you clearly mean yourself.

Kropotkin is really underrated in my opinion. He was one of the most influential ecologist ever and his ideas are just recently started to be understood and seen how right he was about altruism.

@phoneticalballsack

Жыл бұрын

Adolf Hitler took great inspiration from him.

@daitopallw

Жыл бұрын

@@phoneticalballsack what does adolf hitller have to do with petr kropotkin? They are the complete opposite of each other

@phoneticalballsack

Жыл бұрын

@@daitopallw They both hated whites

@MisstyG

Жыл бұрын

He was a pínķo c0mmìe.

@MisstyG

Жыл бұрын

@@daitopallw , wrong, they held the same, exact ideologies, with the same, exact motives. Híțĺer was just a little more drug-addicted, and a little more perverse.

Emma Goldman: "Am I a joke to you?"

@nathanprentice5759

3 жыл бұрын

Goldman, Marx, Lenin, Trotsky.....hmmmmmmm, i wonder what single factor links those people?

@m0rgenthau

3 жыл бұрын

@@nathanprentice5759 Being lefties - Lenin was not jewish m8

@nathanprentice5759

3 жыл бұрын

@@m0rgenthau maybe you coupd tell me what percentage of the Bolsheviks were? I mean, i know its in the 80s somewhere. I know that Maex was a hack writet incapable of original thinking employed as a front man for wider interests.. Also i know that outside/alongside the Armenian Genocide he created the greatest massacre of christians in the history of the world. I know about the young turks and their true affiliations. And i know that if you speak about these things someone will always pop up to try and smear you. Never disprove. Just smear. That is all i need to know. Thanks though.

@jeffcowdrey1578

3 жыл бұрын

@@nathanprentice5759 If you are implying that Emma Goldman was a Bolshevik, you could not be more wrong. Completely, utterly, devastatingly wrong. theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-my-disillusionment-in-russia I'm pretty sure you are just as wrong about the Young Turks. You want to try me?

@nathanprentice5759

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeffcowdrey1578 think what you want. We all do anyway. At least for now.

I mean, I appreciate the video but this history of anarchism might more accurately be deemed a European history of anarchism. There have been many, many renditions of indigenous forms of anarchism which historically and currently still exist.

@eduandrade42

5 жыл бұрын

Marcelo Rincon While I agree with it, it can be said that there's some resemblances, and also possible communications with Anarchism with Amazonian indians. Clastres work for example, as Graeber described it, does a lot of contributions to Anarchist thought.

@cristoball3429

5 жыл бұрын

@Marcelo Rincon I desagree with you. There is a book called 'Anarquismos en confluencia, Chile y Bolivia durante la primera mitad del siglo XX' published by Ivanna Margarucci and Eduardo Godoy, wich principal topic is about the history of the anarchist movement at the frontier of Chile, Bolivia and Perú (región andina). The history (the historians) has taken care to hide the history of the anarchist movement across the world. Hence the hypothesis: 'does not exist an anarchist movement on those regions' is very common and accepted. Precisely, the autors are committed to prove the opposite hyphotesis.

@aligulli123

5 жыл бұрын

This video was primarily about anarchism as a coherent political philosophy which to my knowledge was founded and has been based primarily in what is usually called "the West" from Godwin to Bookchin.

@iakampa6265

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed, no Josiah Warren & Ben Tucker?

@rippedtorn2310

4 жыл бұрын

I know what you are getting at but you are actually imposing western ideals on indigenous cultures by claiming them Anarchist . The lack of a state does not therefore equal Anarchist .

Just a heads up Darwin never said survival of the fittest is the law of evolution. It was the survival of those that can adapt to the best will survive and pass on their geans. “It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change.”

@Mike-zd8wq

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed. Spartans were fit, then they disappeared.

@shithawk89

4 жыл бұрын

One of the most misquoted quotes of all time

@hansproebsting7391

3 жыл бұрын

They also pass on their genes.

@universome511

Жыл бұрын

Sharks

@universome511

Жыл бұрын

@@Mike-zd8wq so they weren't fit

How is this channel not bigger

@christopherharvey5693

3 жыл бұрын

Probably because the majority of people aren't awful lol

@iswitchedsidesforthiscat

2 жыл бұрын

@@christopherharvey5693 ?

@Jetdonk3y

Жыл бұрын

@@iswitchedsidesforthiscat its a shitty channel

@thecincinnatisaboteur7574

Жыл бұрын

@@iswitchedsidesforthiscat low effort neo troll

@iswitchedsidesforthiscat

Жыл бұрын

@@thecincinnatisaboteur7574 ?

I think more people need to watch this considering everyone I speak to seems to think that anarchism is basically a purge film.

I treat my anarchism like my atheism - not a belief but a conclusion. Given what happened in '08 and the long-term futility of what they've done to try and patch the system since then, it's not a goal to be aimed for but an inevitability to be prepared for. When the economy collapses, that's the framework we're going to have to work within so trading networks and skills exchanges need to be set up ready.

Thank you great beards of anarchism.

Please do more episodes like this. Would love to see an entire episode on Stirner & and egoist anarchism.

@sixela6

4 жыл бұрын

Forehead man had good points

@liz.1328

2 жыл бұрын

Your name and profile pic are amazing. Crass is the best.

@TheBLGL

Жыл бұрын

@@sixela6 That’s not a forehead, that’s Crass.

@unhingedegoist

Жыл бұрын

@@TheBLGL forehead man refers to stirner. the surname "stirner" literally means "forehead guy" in german.

@Moodboard39

6 ай бұрын

Need better narrator

Great video-I’m familiar with the topic, and this is probably one of the best intros I have seen. Keep it up-your videos deserve more views, and will eventually get them, I’m sure.

@ThenNow

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I'm now an Anarchist

@alexanderthedude5474

3 жыл бұрын

still based

@jamesphillips7590

3 жыл бұрын

It's spot on. Anarchy isn't bad only the ones using it in those violent ways are. I like the topic of morality and ego.

@joelmarin1840

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesphillips7590 ironically people who tried to spread anarchism through history were silenced in a lot of violent forms

@jamesphillips7590

2 жыл бұрын

@@joelmarin1840 your right on that white rose society in 1932 against the Nazi regime were all beheaded. Well one survived and wrote books on it. Pretty interesting stuff

@joelmarin1840

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesphillips7590 sounds interesting, gonna research that 🤔 thx

Such a professional presentation, man!

Thank you for this, but....patriarchal. Could you have included at least mention of Lucy Parsons, Voltairine, and Emma Goldman?

@-kdot-2332

3 жыл бұрын

@@jackcade68 he levies a good point

@austinsowers2974

2 жыл бұрын

You look like a hall monitor who told on people to the teacher

@universome511

Жыл бұрын

Oy Vey

Magnificent introduction! One of the best I've seen on KZread. I would love some extra video essays from you to further explain the movement. Thanks!

This video is great, love it! I'm a first time viewer of this channel, you just earned a sub!

Thank you to: Owen Pitcairn and Robert Moore For sponsoring this video on Patreon with pledges of $10+ It's a huge help and is the only way I can make these videos, so thank you!

@paddymills

4 жыл бұрын

Anarchy means no rulers not no rules

@paddymills

4 жыл бұрын

@Pavor www.google.com/search?safe=off&client=ms-android-motorola&ei=PHDpXtnvCMuU-gTr2qToAg&q=anarchy+word+origin&oq=anarchy+word+origin&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyAggAMgYIABAWEB5Q_RVY7zNgujpoAHAAeACAAfIGiAGzEZIBDTAuMS4xLjAuMS4xLjGYAQCgAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp

@paddymills

4 жыл бұрын

@Pavor dumb pos

@jabel6434

3 жыл бұрын

Seven comments[ not one of them is actully about the pinned request for support. Ungrateful lot....

first 4 seconds - Death Grips' "Trash" sample my mind is blown

@chrisiceheart

4 жыл бұрын

wait holy shit are you serious

@theodoer96

3 жыл бұрын

sounds very similar but sadly it ain't

Now this is wholesome.

I have my personal preference on how we or rather I should live but at the same time I am perfectly comfortable with cooperating with groups of people to live in a shared ideological system as long as it meets certain requirements which I think is essential for communal cooperation

love your stuff. im suprised that you only have 7k subs

@ThenNow

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Anarchism as I understand it doesn’t mean ‘no rulers’. Guidance is a powerful thing that increases moral and cooperation. Anarchism is removing rule where consent is not fundamentally active in its rule. Governments have some sort of democracy but is not direct. Anarchism allows people who want to guide guide and people who want to be guided guided but grants no power over the other to either position. Personally I believe this is going to take a lot of re-wiring of society, therefore it becomes essential to form a minarchist state where the sole purpose of the government is to prevent the accumulation of power and wealth Maybe I got that all wrong but I’d love to debate

@TheRyulord

6 ай бұрын

Anarchy does literally mean "no rulers" from the greek "an" meaning "without" and "archy" meaning "rule".

I struggle to conform to a single ideology. I feel like countries shouldn’t conform to the expected policies and reforms of certain ideologies and political structures they identify themselves with. Once you make it part of your identity, you push to make yourself the quintessential example of just that. Make decisions and changes based on what works and what’s best overall. Not because it fits into the box you’ve made for yourself.

@mysticalmane3931

3 жыл бұрын

On that note, you might be interested in learning about UBUNTU Contributuionism Here's an introduction: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eZadqKWwisfXl7A.html And another one kzread.info/dash/bejne/hIyNmrSbqJbMp6zG.htmlut I'd recommend the first video

@KarlSnarks

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's good to work from a set of principles and a good understanding of different political schools of thought, so that you can act and change accordingly. If you want to make decisions based on what works, you first need to know what you want to achieve, and what principles are behind it.

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

+ The naturian anarchists explained by a young girl. kzread.info/dash/bejne/YnWdra-doZy3is4.html

excellent video, the author is well informed and manages to explain it in an entertaining way!

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

+ The naturian anarchists explained by a young girl. kzread.info/dash/bejne/YnWdra-doZy3is4.html

It's interesting to see conections to classic liberalism in early anarchism

@elchingon12346

4 жыл бұрын

I like to think that anarchism is taking things like liberalism and utilitarianism seriously, i.e. refining them and bringing them to a philosophical conclusion. I'm hesitant to make that comparison, though, since liberalism has always been wielded as the justification for capitalism, even in it's infancy

@MassDefibrillator

3 жыл бұрын

@@elchingon12346 You wouldn't be the first to make that comparison. Noam Chomsky talks a lot about how anarchism is essentially the modern embodiment of the timeless values of classical liberals, while modern liberalism is essentially an embodiment of the conclusions of classical liberals, which of course were products of their times (markets being better than monarchy was essentially the conclusion).

@universome511

Жыл бұрын

@@elchingon12346 so it's looking at a retarded clown and going wow this is deep

this channel is great, thanks for sharing this

A very good summation. Thank you!

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

+ The naturian anarchists explained by a young girl. kzread.info/dash/bejne/YnWdra-doZy3is4.html

Well done video! Thank you for making this

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

+ The naturian anarchists explained by a young girl. kzread.info/dash/bejne/YnWdra-doZy3is4.html

Love the United farms workers footage and I must say amazing video

Thanks for not dividing your videos with stupid ads. I really appreciate it.

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

+ The naturian anarchists explained by a young girl. kzread.info/dash/bejne/YnWdra-doZy3is4.html

can you do any videos that connect art and politics like bauhaus architecture or the brazilian modernism, nazi neoclassical projects for berlin, brazilian concretism, russian/soviet/chinese constructivism or mexican muralism? thanks... i guess this could be a good series of videos that would set your channel apart from the rest

@ThenNow

5 жыл бұрын

I did a video on Socialist Realism last year (kzread.info/dash/bejne/f5p-2JuKnLu8dNI.html) - I would definitely like to do more in the future. Thanks!

And what about Louise Michel and/or Emma Goldman? Her both had very big implications on (libertarian) education issues (Louise), women's-right movement, political theory and as social activists (on the field! not only theory allowed): for example Louise was a very important figure on Paris Commune and Emma played an importat rol on Spain Civil war (obviously there is a lot to talk about her both). Really makes me sad that no one was mentioned on the video as influential figures, even when her both are regarded as founders of anarcha-feminism. I know that you mentioned the "classical" schools of anarchism, but the influences of this two womans is really important. I hope that this was not intentionally. Maybe for a second video, would be a good idea to talk about the Anarchism and the proposals on different areas (feminism, education, ecologism, etc.) However, nice video! I discovered your channel and I really liked ur videos! Regards

I had a driving instructor tell me that if everyone acts selfishly on the road, it keeps all the drivers safe. Dude would love stirner.

I'd like to hear more about Anarcho Syndicalism from you as that's what I define myself as

@jibbobdion5072

4 жыл бұрын

@YHWH How is fighting for the working class cringe?

@PerkohIsgud

3 жыл бұрын

@@jibbobdion5072 You're pretty cringe.

@jibbobdion5072

3 жыл бұрын

@@PerkohIsgud :)

@jibbobdion5072

3 жыл бұрын

@@PerkohIsgud Also, being against. Anarcho syndicalism just makes you look like a bad guy, the philoposhy wants the working class to control the means of production, why wouldn't you like that? no trickle down economics.

@TaxationIsTheft439

2 жыл бұрын

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. You can’t call your self and anarchist and advocate a political ideology or whatever you want to call it. That makes you a statist

I know that this is only one of thousands of, "Hey, you should do..." suggestions, but this really makes me want to see what you can do with Henry George. There isn't nearly enough discussion of him.

Love the fact that he didn't even mentioned "anarcho"capitalism.

@MoraCat666

2 жыл бұрын

@@asacash well, antifa means just "antifascists" so... yeah, I guess you are right? You don't have to be anarchist to be antifascist.

@Apelles42069

2 жыл бұрын

@@MoraCat666 Every anarchist is, however, an antifascist.

@LK-nh7yj

2 жыл бұрын

The only type of true type of freedom.

@LK-nh7yj

2 жыл бұрын

@@MoraCat666 Guess the Nazis were socialist then🤷🏽‍♂️

@Apelles42069

2 жыл бұрын

@@LK-nh7yj Nothing says freedom like being a slave to capital.

this channel is SO GOOD

Cool video.. it’s not easy to fit a whole history into a short video but nice one. One point on Proudhon and mutualism.. the real genius of Proudhon was his identification of the economic and monetary forces responsible for inequality. His theory’s are as much political and social as they are economic and monetary and what distinguishes him from many of his contemporaries (anarchist and non-anarchist) was his identification of the problem laying in the monetary sphere and his insistence that changing the monetary system would have to be the first step to creating a more equal and productive society.. to be honest, I see Proudhon more as an economic and monetary theorist who was waaaaaaaaay ahead of his time!

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

"The naturian anarchists explained by a young girl." kzread.info/dash/bejne/YnWdra-doZy3is4.html

Nice historical overview!

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

+ The naturian anarchists explained by a young girl. kzread.info/dash/bejne/YnWdra-doZy3is4.html

Great video. Thank you!

It is an honour to anarchism that it is one of the few subjects Statist at Universities have left untouched. Even the publishing world stays clear of Anarchism. Hitler's profitable; even Stalin still sells. But few have heard of the big man, Mikhail Bakunin. Not even a documentary on that brave aristocrat. He lived a life of revolution and a life so intriguing it would make a great film.

Good and clean video pal, 10/10 from an individualist anarchist

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

+ The naturian anarchists explained by a young girl. kzread.info/dash/bejne/YnWdra-doZy3is4.html

Hey, this video was very insightful, thanks. I'm going to look into more of Anarchy's history.

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

+ The naturian anarchists explained by a young girl. kzread.info/dash/bejne/YnWdra-doZy3is4.html

Thanks

Very interesting - thank you.

Dont forget that umberto was assassinated in response to the murder of peasants.

As far as I'm concerned Proudhon was prescient as to how many western societies have turned out with police state surveillance of it's own citizens and the ongoing rise of the criminalisation of poverty and resistance - a fresh kind of state social control, manipulation, propagandising and ethno-nationalist focused public policy. The legacy of corporatist capitalism.

@fuckamericanidiot

3 жыл бұрын

Still better than anarchy :) Even granting you your myopic mean-spirited view of the world as given, it's still setting the bar real low.

@jghifiversveiws8729

2 жыл бұрын

@@fuckamericanidiot What is anarchy to you then?

@alexisdumas84

2 жыл бұрын

@@fuckamericanidiot I'm not sure what's "mean spirited" about wanting to protect individual autonomy (both positive and negative liberty) to the greatest extent possible, and remove authority and subordination of individuals by others. In fact, I would argue that those who think that authority, which is always ultimately accountable only to itself, and which restricts the ability of people to solve their own problems, live their own lives, and develop their own capacities, can ever consistently be used as a force for good, are the ones who are "myopic."

Great overview!

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

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informative and thank you for the book list

Long live anarchism

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

"The naturian anarchists explained by a young girl." kzread.info/dash/bejne/YnWdra-doZy3is4.html

Anarcho-Communism is an oxymoron. Anarchy is about the individual and Communism is about the collective. It's not anarchy. The word you're looking for is synarchy. Anarchy comes from the ancient Greek "an archos," which just means no rulers. Synarchy means "joint rule." Communists are synarchists, not anarchists. Anarchy values the collective, but not at the expense of the individual. Communism/synarchy values the collective over the individual.

Well done. Bravo.

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

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I feel that you didn't misrepresented everything. Very kind my friend.

Commenting for the algorithm.

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

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really intersting stuff very well made and animated

Thanks!

I would advise everyone to keep their political affiliations private online, especially in a video on this topic. Big brother is not so keen on ideologies such as this.

@TaxationIsTheft439

2 жыл бұрын

So what. I saw what I want. Nobody rules me

@universome511

Жыл бұрын

Hahahahahaha what a fucking larp

Wait a sec, did a 200 year old philosophist come up with the term "spook"? I thought 4chan or something made that up but...

The personal endeavors of the individual shall not be infringed by the accumulation of private wealth by those same individuals. Within this we must define what is individual expense and through it a commitment towards personal progression and that of a monopoly of a system that should be held privately but is instead held by the means of distributive control. Any person can endeavour to be a part of society by their commitment within the general social contract, but when the system does not allow personal input and is instead beholden to privately owned means which require supplication towards that authority if means...

... it would be interesting to see modern ways of anarchistic thinking ... maybe a 2. video?

Anarchy means "without rulers" NOT without rules. ETA: Anarchy only works if those involved adhere to Natural Law.

@beyond_modernity8554

4 жыл бұрын

@YHWH huh?

@texasRoofDoctor

4 жыл бұрын

Correct- see oligarchy

@Delgen1951

4 жыл бұрын

What Fang and claw, or power comes from the barrel of the gun, that is what always happens, people are no good at all, rotten tot the care.

@jackiebiggs7071

4 жыл бұрын

As a woman I oppose your natural patriarchal law because that's what happens 'might becomes right'

@ragefury1817

4 жыл бұрын

I am the law

Haven't watched the video yet, but as someone who really likes anarchism, I got to say that I'm nervous about what I'm about to watch.

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

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@guilhermearanha5676

2 жыл бұрын

@@lobservatoiresituationnist3583 I honestly don't know if you're taking a piss or what, but I do think anarchism as a whole, naturist anarchism as well, have pretty good points to be talked about. Maybe not not as a way to be implemented as a general social system, but as a way of puting the powers that be in check. But you might as well be a fucking troll making fun of a smarter girls talking about shit you can't quite grasp for yourself.

Practice makes perfect thanks

You don't have to do things to boost your public image. You can do things out of empathy too and that could be encouraged. This is still a benefit to yourself as you could feel good about yourself

New to the whole concept of anarchism. Can someone enlighten me on how decisions would be made in an anarchist society? From what i understand voting will not exist since it could lead to a majority tyranny

@ret7226

3 жыл бұрын

totally depends on who you ask, is the thing. many anarchists get criticized for not having a very clear idea of what the intricacies of their society would look like. personally, i've never heard a stance that is totally anti-voting, rather just arguments made against the current system of voting we have (first-past-the-post) in favor of alternatives like the borda count. i've also heard proposals like community councils that are often rotated with multiple community members, ensuring no one/few people are given power for an extended amount of time sufficient for them to abuse, while also ensuring that everybody in the community has an opportunity to make their opinion heard. even after choosing a specific branch of anarchism (anarcho-communism vs. anarcho-mutualism vs. anarcho-whateverism), people within these branches do have different ideas of how society would function, but band together over the common goal of dismantling current systems and replacing them with their ideology, however vague. if you look up "what would an anarchist society look like" or "how would an anarchist society function" you should be able to find tons of resources! and here's a video on the first-past-the-post vs. borda count voting system that i found really helpful: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y62p0c1yhLTMoNI.html sorry for such a long response, hope that wasn't too confusing!! i tend to ramble haha

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

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@universome511

Жыл бұрын

1 await orders from FBI Agent 2 Comply 3 ??? 4 Star Trek Picard

@universome511

Жыл бұрын

@Social Libertarian true but you won't have freedom in practice

@br2485

Жыл бұрын

One way practiced is "consensus". Its a process to reach agreement within a group. Consensus can be defined as "no strong opposition", not unanimity as one might expect. The basics of it is that people identify a particular issue and discuss solutions. If there are disagreements then people will try solve them and find a solution that satisfies each member, or at least a solution that is not strongly opposed by each member. There are certain criteria for what a valid strong opposition is, usually to do with it violating some group principles or being harmful to the group. Personal preference is not a valid reason, for example. Obviously concensus can't be reached in every matter. If people have tried and failed to produce a generally satisfying solution, depending on the nature of the issue, the group can putthe issue aside until thoughts or solutions have changed, or if a decision has to be made then some form of majority voting can be done. However, members would still have the right not to participate. So if someone still really hated the solution, they don't have to participate in its implementation, and ate of course free to continue arguing their case. You can also not participate if you just generally dislike the solution.

I thought that syndicalism was a type of anarcho communism

@user-vt9xz7vo6x

4 ай бұрын

Old comment, but I wanted to reply anyway: In contemporary anarchism it's usually agreed upon that anarcho-syndicalism is the method, and anarcho-communism the outcome. Even to this day many anarchists believe that syndicalism is the method through which we can achieve anarcho-communism.

Then & Now: this video is VERY INTERESTING for me!

i love this thank you

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

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I find the music behind all the videos very distracting from the spoken word.

"maybe the most famos anarquist" durruti: :,(

@charlesthebald3671

4 жыл бұрын

To be fair, Durruti often quoted Kropotkin's "The only church that illuminates is a burning church."

@GeneralArmorus

3 жыл бұрын

nope

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

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great outline

I'm glad you started with Godwin (though maybe a word about Winstanley?)...

Anarchism, Communism and Socialism are the most misunderstood ideologies, a lot people tend to talk about them like they're pure evil and then when you ask them to define these ideologies and they're either wrong or can't even explain it.

@uriel.of.denial

4 жыл бұрын

I see where you come from. But this the argument for that. It just sounds good on paper but when you execute the plan your going to run into problems. Just look a stalin he took power as an absolute dictator, Trotsky had to flee, and Lenin was afraid that if Stalin were to take into place that system would fail(more or less). Its the power hungry we should watch out

@Moodboard39

6 ай бұрын

People are ignorant and unlearned of how the system works. They focus on the dictorship

You forgot Lao Tzu who's philosophical text "Te Dao Dejing" can also be interpreted as an Manual for an Anarchic Monarch. Yes, Anarcho-Monarchism is a thing.

@MrKoalaburger

5 жыл бұрын

I've heard the term tossed around, but I thought it was tongue-in-cheek.

@whatabouttheearth

4 жыл бұрын

Anarcho-monarchism? Hahaha Explain?

@blackflagsnroses6013

4 жыл бұрын

Ruben Granz no it’s just an abstract philosophy. However Daoism indeed was an ancient belief that included anarchist principles. Ultimately one cannot have anarchy (absence of rulers) and monarchy (one ruler).

@noahsherwood2445

4 жыл бұрын

It's a meme ideology.

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

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Very interesting video! Biji Rojava!

It will be interesting to discover the origins of these spooky tales. It is my own personal experience that make my past sound like fiction. There is an intelligence that fits the description of some mythical stories and the reality of its existence is still a mystery to me.

Libertarianism and Taoism are not anarchism. Quite the opposite. Freedom of choice and the principle of consent are the foundation of a polite society and liberty.

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

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Anybody else come here for The History of Narchism?

@x.g_

4 жыл бұрын

I think you mean Archism.

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

"The naturian anarchists explained by a young girl." kzread.info/dash/bejne/YnWdra-doZy3is4.html

I cannot understand why a channel that makes such high-quality videos has only 200,000 subscribers

@Moodboard39

6 ай бұрын

What u expect? 5 million subs? This aint a music video genius, 200k alot, most probably bots

It takes an insurmountable physical feat to raise an ideal above the followers(plural) head.

Stirner sounds like the perfect Libertarian.

@RosePolloi

4 жыл бұрын

The American definition of "Libertarian" is a very unique thing. Everywhere else in the world, the word "Libertarian" and the word "Anarchist" are interchangeable, referring to people like Stirner and Kropotkin alike. American Libertarianism is it's own thing, concerned with the defending of private property and the free market. Stirner was an anti-capitalist, as he saw the market as another oppressive hierarchy which hampers the individual, no different than the state. Indeed, one of his most vital frameworks was the notion of Illegalism. While collectivist anarchists like Bakunin and Kropotkin advocated property theft as a means of building a revolution, Stirner advocates for property theft merely for its own sake. If you are an American Libertarian who is interested in more conventional anarchist thought, Mutualism would probably be a better option, as it leaves the free market intact.

@Bojoschannel

4 жыл бұрын

@@RosePolloi the capitalist definition of libertarian has been growing up a lot here in Latin America sadly.

@niclasromanski7920

3 жыл бұрын

He is mostly criticizing all those abstractions that we strive for, identify with, or those ideas that we use to get together and he would definitely refuse to say that he is a libertarian. His critique is the most fundamental and therefore philosophical that i have ever seen. If you ask me, i would say that it is the very core Essence of anarchism because even though he would also refuse to identify as anarchist, in the end he strives for ABSOLUTE autonomy or the refusal of any Control over his own will.

Ok but i’ve always wondered about this: no authority? Fine. But what about children and teenagers? I work at a day camp, i’m well placed to say children do need authority and so do teenagers. What’s anarchism has to say about that? Edit: my views have changed i wrote this a long time ago,, thanks to the people in the comments

@radroatch

3 жыл бұрын

@sKy - My veiw in brief is if you put children in effectively a prison - school - and make adult/child attention/engagement at a ratio of 1:35 expect some rebelliousness until it is potentially crushed by this system. If you or anyone is serious about the serious question of education my suggestions: For a quick rebuttal summary watch Chomsky interviews on it. For a deeper drive try the excellent Paul goodman. And to some degree Alfie Kohn (relevant though not an Anarchist). For more traditional stuff try Emma Goldman. List could be longer but I've already exceeded youtube etiquette as is. Oops! :) When education is not liberating, the dream of the oppressed is to become the oppressor" - Paulo Freire

@pygmalion8952

3 жыл бұрын

there is actually democratic schools in uk rn. summerhill. it work pretty well but most anarchists would say 'ok but there is no cooperation' to this school. fostering cooperative behaviour (which is healthty for kids btw) early is important for most of them. not for systemic reasons but cooperation fosters self-esteem in the school. there is, then, two ways of schooling them: least authority and fostering cooperation.

Great philosophy video.

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

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@badger1296

2 жыл бұрын

@@lobservatoiresituationnist3583 From the mouths of babes!

@badger1296

2 жыл бұрын

@@lobservatoiresituationnist3583 This generation will be the best one.

@lobservatoiresituationnist3583

2 жыл бұрын

@@badger1296 We hope so.

I like sterner. He sounds like a really smart dude and I agree with him with what you said

See Civilized to Death: Christopher Ryan on how we may have lived before so called civilization was “invented “....looks like Anarchy

I've been learning about Marx for several years now, and have occasionally dipped my toe into anarchism. What I still don't understand is the fundamental difference between Marx's conception of communism, and left-Anarchist conceptions of anarchism. They look the same to me. Self-managed workers, classlessness, statelessness, the abolition of private property in the means of production, and a commitment to radical individual freedom and autonomy as a means for social emancipation ("the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all"). Where are the actual rifts and differences? In the video you say that these various anarchists criticised Marx, only to go on to say that they said the same kind of things that he did. For example, you say that Bakunin disagreed with Marx about the dictatorship of the proletariat, and that he preferred worker self management. Okay... so did Marx. That was his aim, a free association of producers. The dictatorship of the proletariat doesn't refer to a political arrangement, but to a social one, wherein rather than living in the dictatorship of the bourgeoise (as we do now), we flip the social order on its head. That doesn't mean an _actual_ dictatorship, it refers to a social order where the interests of the worker dictate the direction of society, rather than the interests of capitalists. This is necessarily part of any transitional period between a class-based society and a classless one. The only alternative would be to somehow move immediately from one state of affairs to the next.

For some reason, i struggle to define what type of anarchist i am. The more i dig the more diversified i become - some merge between anarcho-communism, anarcho-collectivism, and anarcho-syndicalism. Somehow to me, they are not exactly mutually exclusive. 🤷‍♂️

Agorism would be an interesting video topic

The various varieties of anarchy aim for the right outcomes but there methods either reinvent authority in form some group like a union or they ignore human nature. Humans evolved from troop animals, having leaders, alpha humans, is in our nature. Some or even most might be able to overcome that part of our nature but not all will. There will always be people who seek authority. In order to have "universal affirmation and promotion of freedom and equality" will require some authority to protect those freedoms. There will always be some who try to game the system. That might be fine as far as free loaders, but it will be real problem as far as bullies. Bullies use intimation and force to deny freedom and equality. That will work unless there is some authority to stop them. That authority could be the mob, but more likely the mob is the bully. That's the problem for anarchy, doing away with the state while at the same time not created something called a different name but with the same function and possibility for abuse.

@rosemali3022

3 жыл бұрын

Nope. That is the history you have been taught, by people who stand to benefit from a strong vs weak dichotomy. The fact is, humans could never have evolved if we hadn't gathered into communities and cooperated with each other. Protecting and caring for each other. We are naturally pack animals, we need community. We need to be cared for and we need to care for. Helping feels good for a reason you know.

@myothersoul1953

3 жыл бұрын

@@rosemali3022 You are right, human did evolved propensities to cooperate but those aren't the only natural human tendencies. Human history and prehistory is of groups not only banding together to survive but or warring against other bands and fighting to lead their own band. Something or someone has to counter those darker human tendencies. But that something will be impotent if it doesn't have some power or authority.

@rosemali3022

3 жыл бұрын

@@myothersoul1953 We have had anarchistic societies in the past that worked out just fine, and not every tribe had "alpha humans" in the way you think. The science is still young as much of our previous knowledge has been riddled with bias, or even purposefully destroyed, but matriarchies have been shown to have extremely egalitarian societies. Beyond that, I think what your getting at is the fallacy of tolerance. As in, you must not be tolerant of INtolerance. I see no reason why that would have to change. Take a look at how towns have gotten rid of white supremacists attempted take overs. That all being said, I doubt any true leftist would ever say that anarchism should be put into place with force. It just isn't how these things are done. As far as I'm aware, first we strengthen unions, then get partial worker ownership of the means of production, social safety nets, ranked choice voting, an actual democracy, etc. Then move into actual socialism, then move on from there with the buy in from the populous. We have a lot of work to do before we get to a place Anarchism is achievable, and people will evolve and change inside of the newer systems we put in place. I would argue that despite being raised in a cut throat society in which if you dont work, you die, where greediness is rewarded, and the majority having far far too little: that most are good, actually. Most people have been generous to a friend or a stranger. Most people have given a guy a dollar in the streets. And I think that those who dont, most of THOSE people have to be taught not to. "Oh, they will use it for booze or drugs. Oh, they obviously must have done something wrong to be homeless (bc I must protect myself from believing I could ever end up there, so they must deserve it so that I can make sure that I dont deserve it so I dont have to worry about my tenuous grasp on normalcy), etc. If we weren't fundamentally community oriented, they wouldn't need to own every single media station, they wouldn't have to put propaganda into everything we see, and they wouldn't need to divide us up into segments for us to hate. They could just let capitalism be capitalism and nobody would care that others were the have nots. But no, they spend a monumental effort into tricking us, and every half a decade or so we always go back to demanding socialism. So I dont think your wrong, but I do think your missing a significant portion of the full scope. I appreciate the convo btw, be well.

@myothersoul1953

3 жыл бұрын

@@rosemali3022 Thank you for your response. I also don't think you are wrong, I suspect there is more we agree on than disagree on. The problem I see with socialism, capitalism, anarchism and ever other "ism" is they are bound to particular ideologies. Because people tend to notice what fits with their preexisting ideas and dismiss what doesn't, ideologies become rigid, more focused on dogma than solutions. All too often practical solutions to real problems get dismissed because they are capitalistic or socialist. The societies with the highest levels of well being or happiness aren't ideologically driven but are rather pragmatic. You are right, humans are highly social creatures. That drives both cooperation and status seeking. Humans are also diverse with no single set of universal values. However, we do share many common positive values. I think if we are willing to listen to others and focus on finding common ground we can progress. I also think curve of history is on our side, the long view of history shows progress. It's not inevitable progress so we need to be keep trying, but it is progress.

@ludvigsundby

Жыл бұрын

@@myothersoul1953 ik this thread is like two years old but I just wanted to add that for many anarchists (Malatesta for example), anarchism is not a rigid political or social ideology. An anarchist society is a society that is in constant change, always adapting and improving with a certain set of "ground rules" like the rejection of power over others. This is why it's not that easy to find hard, clear-cut visions of an ideal anarchist society, because it is entirely dependent on the location, culture and period in which it is observed and is therefore very difficult to "predict" as we have no way of knowing what our society will look like in a hundred years. There won't be an "anarchist revolution" where we suddenly flip society on its head and impose "anarchism" as the new ideology, but rather a constantly changing society that adapts to whatever is needed or wanted at the time. It will develop naturally as a consequence of a larger social revolution in which capitalism is rejected, and room is created for building sustainable communities that take care of every member as a whole. Zoe Baker has some great videos on these ideas (and she sure loves Malatesta haha) Anyways yeah just wanted to shoot this in there as I found this discussion very interesting and I think we agree on a lot of things!

Anarcho-Syndicalism is the political ideology that I most strongly identify with. Noam Chomsky is based. but because I am what they call a "class reductionist" others in the space think I am far right, but this video confirms it for me that I am actually a leftist. thank you.

I love Voltairine de Cleyre, she was beautiful physically and mentally. An awesome writer, activist, public speaker, anarchist, feminist, teacher of languages, penmanship and music. I discovered her researching anarchism in general and especially Emma Goldman and Alexander Berkman whom she knew. She also met Peter Kropotkin on a trip to London. Her biography written by the anarchism biographer Paul Avrich entitled " An american anarchist, the life of Voltairine de Cleyre" is very interesting. She was a phenomenal woman. She lived from 1866 to 1912 mostly in Philadelphia and Chicago. She is buried in Chicago next to the Haymarket square martyrs.

What about Lysander Spooner and Benjamin Tucker?

From which Artist was this Picture by 0:28 ???