Could you give a list of the order of reading Nietzsche’s books? Also, I’ve been told to start from beyond good and evil, what do you think ab this? I just want some peoples opinion before starting* ps: great vid!

@whyalexandery

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for asking! I really love making reading lists. Basically, the big three are The Gay Science, Thus Spake Zarathustra, and Beyond Good and Evil. Those are his most comprehensive books and the ones that are most representative of his mature thought. Before The Gay Science, he's still finding his voice, and after Beyond Good and Evil, his books generally have a narrower focus. (The exception being the The Will To Power, but that's a compilation of incomplete, unpublished notes.) The other books are worth reading too, but I think the three I mentioned are the ones you're likely to get the most out of. Where to start? Anyone of those three is fine, but Thus Spake Zarathustra is probably the worst one to begin with. It's very poetic and allegorical, so understanding it is much easier when you've already read the other two first. I prefer the The Gay Science over Beyond Good and Evil, but that's highly personal and arbitrary. Go for either one. The Walter Kaufmann translations are good and also beloved by academics (assuming you want to read Nietzsche по-английски). I'll give you a couple alternative options as well. First off, like I said in the video, "Nietzsche: Life as Literature" was a very useful introduction for me. It focuses on a lot of quotes from The Gay Science, so it could be good to read before, after, or alongside that book. My thoughts about Nietzsche have changed quite a bit since reading it, but it was still the thing that initially helped to form a cohesive image of Nietzsche. Before that book, I found Nietzsche interesting, but it was hard for me to connect his thoughts together or see the thinker behind them. It's not that "Nietzsche: Life as Literature" provides a comprehensive system explaining all of Nietzsche's thought. Nietzsche isn't a systematic thinker, and that's just not possible. However, I think really understanding an author means having a version of that author in your head, and in a sense, being able to think like that author and ask them questions about topics and situations you haven't already read their opinion on. It's like having a pair of Nietzsche glasses that you can put on, so you can temporarily see the world the way he would, and maybe that way, certain things will make a little more sense to you. This also seems to be Nietzsche's desire. As he says, "Whoever writes in blood and aphorisms does not want to be read but to be learned by heart" (TSZ). Of course, you can never totally see the world as another person, and you're image of that person will always be shaped towards what you personally need that person to be, but that's also something Nietzsche discusses and seems to accept. That's all just to say that "Nietzsche: Life as Literature" is the book that gave me the initial seed for growing my own test tube Nietzsche, and both of my Nietzsche videos are really just shameless rip-offs of Alexander Nehamas's Nietzsche. I really can't promise you his book would be as useful for you as it was for me, but if you liked my video, it might be. Alright, that was way too much writing on that. Here's the second alternative. If you're looking for a short book to just sample a little Nietzsche, Twilight of the Idols is also a pretty good choice. It's not very comprehensive because it's so short, but it's in a similar style to The Gay Science and Beyond Good and Evil and comes after them, so if you're the kind of person that likes to stick your toes in the swimming pool first, you can always try that one first. It's included in the "Portable Nietzsche" by Walter Kaufmann, along with the complete Thus Spake Zarathustra and some other books. Definitely worth reading at some point, if only because of how easy it is. After reading the big three and Twilight of the Idols, I don't know what order would be best. That would all depend on which aspects of Nietzsche's thought you wanted to expand upon. The Genealogy of Morals, The Antichrist, and The Birth of Tragedy are all interesting. They all also get discussed quite a lot as well. Ecce Homo is probably interesting, but I don't remember it quite as well for some reason. In general, I'd save the early stuff (pre-Gay Science) for last. The Birth of Tragedy would be an exception, mostly because it's weirdly influential on certain artists and that might make it interesting to you. Embarrassingly, I've only read little snippets of The Will to Power, so I can't really comment on it at all. It probably makes sense that a person that likes Nietzsche would eventually read that one in order to imagine what his later thought might have been like, but... Oops. Anyway, that's it. Hopefully I said something useful. Sorry for the long rant in the middle. I wish you the best of luck on your intellectual journey, and I hope you find whatever you're searching for, brother.

@russkiygeniy5053

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks a lot! Sure it helped. I think I'm going to start with the "Nietzsche: Life as literature", hope I don't get impatient to start The Gay science or Beyond Good and Evil. It makes a lot of sense that about forging the image of an author, I'm really looking forward to start, thanks man.

I couldn’t stop laughing when you talked about Epicurus, the Stoics, and Schopenhauer’s views on marrige & children

I've watched a lot of philosophical commentary on KZread and this is really good stuff keep it up

This was one of the best philosophy videos i saw. continue the work!

Your channel is great, please keep it up and don't stop making new content!

Incredible video, the best intro ever

This is a great intro to Nietzsche, thanks

Great video! Amazing stuff!

Excellent primer

Interesting take on stoicism, never thought of it as life-denying. Great video, as always!

@BallBatteryReligion

4 ай бұрын

After learning more about the origins of stoicism I don't like how much of a trend its become. Started by the Greeks but adopted by the Romans much like they took many ideas of other cultures. A belief that you have no control over anything around you and so you should numb yourself to the world and your emotions, and reactions to both. They even emphasize not feeling sympathy or sorrow for your fellow man. Completely powerless and fatalist but oh- there is a higher power/force that wants you to operate ethically. Ethics above all. But who decides the ethical path forward for you? The empire of course. How very convenient; act apathetically and utilitarianly for the greater good of the culture around you but don't question or feel upset for what you might feel compelled to disagree with; because you can't change it, so give up. How so very, remarkably convenient. I think with that context it's quite literally a "slave morality" lol.

great video!

Wow, this was brilliant.

Please do more philosophy videos.

It seems that Nietzsche disliked the _Censorship_ that morality seemed to bring about. Not morality itself.

We should explore the further universe.... instead of just prefer to die or only live life for own. Dying is too boring.

I talk slow, so feel free to speed up the video....are you fucking kidding me?

@anesu846

2 жыл бұрын

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Napoléon wasn't a bad guy, his wars were mostly defensive, look at the ancian regime they started the seven years war and even lost it, but Napoléon won most of them.

I love the system of comparing philosophers to a “wiser version of your friend who says X” 😂

Man wants to make roads and to create videos because we area kind of chaos for das past continues to flow on within us in 100 waves- That is a fact beyond dispute because archytypes exist

Opinions. Verbiage. As usual.