Nietzsche vs Dostoesvky: kzread.info/dash/bejne/haVsw5icm6S3ZZc.html Nietzschean artist ubermensch playlist (Proust, Kafka and Bukowski): kzread.info/head/PLyKyeehuJVIFVusfr6l5IAI9JQCunls0f

@kindredfaith

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@jelliott0077

Жыл бұрын

Zarathustra was 30 years old NOT 40

Wow. Just wow. You're absolutely brilliant. This is the most profound explanation I've heard of Nietzsche's philosophy. Great work.

@Fiction_Beast

Жыл бұрын

Really appreciate it.

@lordoftheonionring4832

Жыл бұрын

@@Fiction_Beast I couldn't have said better Ty brother

Fun Fact: “Thus Spake Zarathustra” is the title of the Opening & Closing music to Stanley Kubrick’s masterpiece, “2001 A Space Odyssey” How cool is that?

@defy2598

7 ай бұрын

kinda makes the ending make some sense

@reedbryan1

7 ай бұрын

Also sprach Zarathustra by Strauss actually

@pauljack7170

4 ай бұрын

what a stupid film!

Quite great timing. Just spent two months in Zarathustra. The book absolutely flattened me. Therefore, I read Carl Jung’s 1600 page seminar on it which was quite helpful in getting a grapple on the text.

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Carl Jung's reading of Nietzsche sounds intriguing.

@joellovell6240

2 жыл бұрын

@Nigel I've known of Jung's seminar on Zarathustra for quite some time. I've also heard that he often goes off field, and that its more useful for understanding Jung than Zarathustra and Nietzsche. And I'm not trying to get into Jung right now. Can you give an example of how Jung helped you understand Zarathustra better?

@nigelbryant7980

Жыл бұрын

Yes, Joel Lovell, he most certainly goes off field. One must keep in mind it is a 1600 page transcription of a seminar filled with over thirty people that lasted almost a decade, and was never intended to be published until decades after the fact. Thus, it is primarily focused on Zarathustra, but on account of those previously mentioned factors, it goes to many other places as well, in quite a fantastic manner. One example could be the seminar’s brilliant discussion of how morality should be viewed as a will to life/power and how this is necessary to move forward.

@carolinarestrepo7277

Жыл бұрын

Art. God or existence or whatever is more than just us that is God

@stormbreak13

Жыл бұрын

@@nigelbryant7980 your example of how 1600 pages of Jung explaining neitzche, was literally the core concept of the vast majority of nietzches philosophy? Sounds like a big waste of 1600 pages

Great sir.... glad that i found out your channel....it really helps in understanding the great philosophies...keep growing..you deserve much more love...thanks 😊

Thank you for connecting all the ideas together, such a priceless service. Only through yours, I see depth instead of most shallowness in others.

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

You are so welcome!

Your channel is gold waiting to be discovered , thank you for all the efforts you put in it

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you!

This channel is absolute gold! Thanks so much mate!

@kevinquintero3035

Жыл бұрын

WTF

I've been listening to quite a few philosophy videos. I think yours are the best!

I appreciate your hard work in researching Nietzsche's philosophy. You are a godsend!

Thank you for awesome summary and explanation of Nietzsche's philosophy and writing

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Thanks for watching.

Brilliant! As always. Would love to know more about your background and plans (as in, if you are a writer how do we get a hold of your writings ?)

This is undoubtedly the greatest piece of insight into Nietzsche's Philosophy I have ever come across! It is also the most succinct explanation. I can't thank you enough for putting so much into perspective for me! Amazing !!!

Your interpretations are exquisite. You are on point with all of it. - From someone who actually took the time read several times over works you have mentioned…

Well done. Thank you❤

very interesting channel !! well done !! thank you for your job .........from Italy

Love this channel and all your videos. Thank you so much

@Fiction_Beast

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

You did a wonderful job here. Thanks for that!!

@Fiction_Beast

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it.

This was a really good analysis. Thanks

THANKYOU Wonderful synopsis!

I admire Nietzsche, Freud, Jung, and Peterson a great deal. And I believe you handled their relationship with each other very well. Very happy I found this channel the other week, you deserve all the good fortune coming your way, God bless.👍

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a ton!

@enterthevoidIi

Жыл бұрын

Peterson is a shill and a tool

Amazing video once again. I didn't know that you're not only a guru on Russian classics of literature but also a philosophy pro. Keep up the great work!

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it man!

This analysis is changing my life. Thankyou so much

@Fiction_Beast

Жыл бұрын

I'm really glad to hear that. Great motivation for me.

An honest criticism if I may, your content is very high quality - one of the best I've come across so far. I wish the narration was in a deeper voice and better pronunciation/accent. Currently it's kind of killing the immersion.

Loved the Nietzsche-Nature pun 😀

Very inspiring. Thank you!!!

Very well put

Hi Matt, I watched this tonight. I am blown by the depth of your analysis and insights. I have read 'Thus Spoke Zarathustra' few years back but I think I need to revisit the text armed with the knowledge of your analysis to truly experience and appreciate this work of Art. Kudos on your research and the flow of narrative and the informative videos. Keep them coming. PS: If you haven't already I would urge you to read Stefan Zweig's biography of Nietzsche. The language is powerful as if an ode to the literary force and life of 19th century rockstar philosopher that was Nietzsche. Cheers! Aranya

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

Really appreciate it. Thanks for the suggestion. I am reading Chess, a short novella by Sweig and I'm enjoying it. Will look it up.

@veerswami7175

2 жыл бұрын

Hey bro where u from i am also reading good and evil can u give some suggestion

Just amazing analysis of one of my favorite philosopher. I read Zarathustra in german. It is just so important for our life to be able to understand aspects of the meaning of life...thank you again.

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

Wonderful! Thank you!

@joellovell6240

2 жыл бұрын

@livia This question is for my own amusement as someone who knows no German: how much better is the german original than the english translations?

@liviacleary2610

2 жыл бұрын

@@joellovell6240 the German language is the language of modern philosophy. there are hundreds of scholars who learn it to read their philosophers. As for Nietzsche, I have only read him in German. It is a logical and precise language. Reading in German is a delight. This language is rational and helps you to think.....

@joellovell6240

2 жыл бұрын

@@liviacleary2610 Thanks. Welp, one more thing I hope to learn in the future!

I am not steeped enough in Kafka’s work to talk intelligently about him, but Wagner, Proust, Bukowski, Virginia Woolf, and even Gustav Mahler are actively present in my thinking. I add Mahler because like Proust his gifts were ones of self-sacrifice and a heroic endurance in the face of tremendous sorrow. Mahler could see it coming, and he saw it vividly. His compositions embody his foreboding. He did, though, die before World War I as did Wagner. These two did not live to see the collisions of the old and new they envisioned actually play out on the world stage. Proust saw some of it, and Charles Bukowski was later and the two great wars were part of his consciousness as an artist. “Find something you love,” Bukowski charged us, “and do it till it kills you.” You notice that there are none of these Nietzschean ubermensch prescriptions in the works of Virginia Woolf, a woman of equivalent talent and incite as compared to the above mentioned men. So as Nietzsche sends us in the direction of nature, we see that Virginia Woolf and others are of a very different nature than the men we are discussing. Compassion and sensitivity are not crimes. They are not failings. Nature is as nurturing as it is blindly cruel. With all of Wagner’s prodigious gifts, he was a monster. He could see the future, and he pushed the world toward it manipulating everything and everyone he could. He was unrelenting and barbarically cruel. His music-dramas are spellbinding, and little compares to his work, but can we ignore the costs of his triumphs? And, as for Jordan Peterson, he is a self-promoting windbag who should find a hobby and leave the rest of us be.

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

Mahler is a great shout. I absolutely love his music, but know very little about his life. Wagner, not so much. Maybe because I'm 20% deaf in one ear and avoid loud noises as much as possible :) Your analysis of Virginia Woolf is intriguing. She's a bit similar to Proust for me and the fact that she ended her life to escape it all leaves a question mark for me.

Love you stuff.

Man, you're good. Thanks!

you doing great i am really appreciat

Well done! I agree with you, In Search of Lost Time is the greatest novel, possibly the greatest work of art, in the history of civilization. I'm re-reading Swann's Way right now; I'm in the middle of "Swann in Love." What profound analysis of the workings of the human mind, of our aspirations, our motivations, our delusions, our guilts, our readings and misreadings of other people. Layer upon layer upon layer of analysis, digging deep into the strata of the human psyche. And he was abominably ill the whole time he was writing. Yes, that book is a heroic, a superhuman, achievement. I've never read Thus Spake Zarathustra, but I have two copies of it, and it's fairly short, so I'm going to try to squeeze it in between finishing Swann's Way and starting Within a Budding Grove. And just last week I heard of Charles Bukowski for the first time, so there's another writer I'll have to start reading. Incidentally, your narration beginning at 36:10 ("So, for Nietzsche, humans should be able to fully probe, like the tendrils of a climbing plant, without the fear of religious punishment or moral punishment.") cuts to a photo of a vine spreading profusely around the upper-storey windows of a house. That reminded me of the "little room" at the top of Aunt Léonie's house in Combray. Remember, it smelled of orris-root and "was scented also by a wild currant-bush which had climbed up between the stones of the outer wall and thrust a flowering branch in through the half-opened window." Thanks again for a really enjoyable and enlightening video!

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

The tendril image must have come from Proust becuase I also remember reading about it in In Search of Lost Time that now you mention. Good memory! Appreciate your thoughtful comment.

We are genuinely thank to u for providing such valuable wisdom to us

@Fiction_Beast

Жыл бұрын

Cheers!

This has been immensely inspiring so far, thank you sir. Only watched until 15:31, where Nietzches Will To Power is explained. My oh my what strange feeling of "realisation" that is. I find it strange that we can't figure those things out for ourselves, that we need philosphers to help us realise these things! But makes a lot of sense! Schopenhoer's will to live is so depressing in comparison! Thank you and I shall continue watching! :)

@michael_leclezio

Жыл бұрын

Finished watching! Amazing! Bravo! A piece of art of its own. Thank you sir. Inspiring.

This is, by far, my favorite of your posts to date. It will take me a while to respond. There’s so much to think about. Standby for my response.

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, Mark!

I believe u r an ubermensch. You really are a great artist to decode al these profound deep meaning.

Really informative, your videos. Would like one about works and life of Anacharsis Cloots, an author admired by the übermensch Joseph Beuys, whom I personally knew as a boy because our art teacher was a friend of him.

I found your channel today and I am in love with your work.

@Fiction_Beast

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

@aishwariyasweety2433

Жыл бұрын

@@Fiction_Beast give him a heart!

Wonderful video. Hope you do one on Kierkegaard too.

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

I have not read anything by him, but maybe in the future.

Wow , this video was exactly the one ive been looking for.

Excellent!

This is great stuff

Great video! Do you have any plans on covering Vladimir Nabokov or Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe?

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

Not right now, but yes in the future for sure.

Excellent

Being like water doesn't mean avoiding obstacles. Water simply keeps moving until it finds a way. In that way it doesn't resist, it overcomes by being what it is and being in accordance with its nature. That's what "be like water" means. Water is persistent and ever flowing with the paths that give it passage until it "finds a way" back to itself.

Where to start? First of all congrats for another enlightening video. I’ve just walked to my book shelve and grabbed my copy of Zarathustra. To me this book completely changed my life, it’s written with beauty, with strength, it’s philosophies’ bible, period. Harsh criticism of concepts such as pity and resentment also make an important part of this amazing work (i.e. On the Tarantulas), and he doesn’t spare attacks towards christianity either (i.e. On Priests) “…and they did not know how to love their god except by crucifying man”. About Jordan Peterson’s criticism on Nietzsche’s concept about man creating his own values I have to say that I agree with him. Peterson talks about this specifically in his latest work, Beyond Order, where he mentions that, for example, man wants to change what he knows it’s wrong with him, and even though he knows he’s flawed and he has to fix what’s wrong with him he doesn’t do it. My understanding is that, with such type of mentality, how are we expected to create VALUES for us and others? We need a lot of übermensch in us in order to get there, and in this instant gratification day and age we’re far from it. I can’t recommend people enough to read this crucial piece of literature, I can assure you that your life won’t be the same. Nietzsche himself said in his sort of autobiography Ecce Homo: "Among my writings my Zarathustra stands to my mind by itself. With Zarathustra I have given mankind the greatest present that has ever been made to it so far.” And he was absolutely right. Thanks again!

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this thoughtful comment. Regarding today's world of young people trying to change the world based on their flawed values, I agree. Far too many young people try to fix the world without really knowing what's really broken. I think Nietzsche's ubermensch is a very select few people who have gone through the pain and suffering of achieving artistic vision or philosophical wisdom to be able to affect change in society or guide not through violence but by their artistic creation or body of work. So these are not ordinary folk, but a very select few. Today's dominant value is equality which means if one person has the capacity to achieve something, therefore it is automatically assumed that everyone is capable of achieving it. In reality that is not the case at all.

@JDRS77

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fiction_Beast That is a very cool aspect of the book that you address extensively in your video, which is the pain and suffering journey to achieve artistic or philosophical wisdom (i.e. On Reading and Writing “Whoever writes in blood and aphorisms does not want to be read but to be learned.”) About equality, yes, it’s a concept that Nietzsche destroys, saying that men are NOT equal and that he longs for the übermensch, he roots for him, because is he who will make a difference, is he who will cross to the other side by being dangerous and defiant (i.e. Zarathustra’s Prologue “Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman-a rope over an abyss.”) I think it’s a concept really distorted, because we can trace its modern origins in the French Revolution (Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité), the workers revolution against the unfair feudalism system and monarchies absolutism, separation of church and state, and nowadays we enjoy it’s consequences: universal human rights and the creation of the republic as a system of government in the west. So I would get into the equality concept way deeper, of course making a clear distinction between equality of opportunity versus equality of outcome. Returning to Zarathustra, this is the only bookmark I have in an almost entire highlighted book 😂: “Your love of life shall be love of your highest hope; and your highest hope shall be the highest thought of life. Your highest thought, however, you should receive as a command from me-and it is: man is something that shall be overcome.” That right there changed me, it’s an aphorism for the ages. Praise to Friedrich Nietzsche! P.S. I’m originally from Colombia, and every time you cite Gabriel García Márquez I feel really proud of our literature nobel prize winner. Thanks again!

Really good video. Would you consider doing a video on James Joyce’s Finnegan’s Wake? I know it would not be easy and probably not very popular lol

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, yeah maybe in the future. It's a tough text.

Hey Fiction Beast, I love your videos and I'd like to read Russian literature. I have a dillema though, is it possible to read big books like War and Peace on Kindle device or is it better to buy physical book?

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

If you have the money I would buy a paperback but if not, you can download a free copy onto your kindle from Gutenberg.org. Physical books are easier to go back and forth. With kindle it’s easier to power through. My strategy is which I can access easier and stick with it.

24:08 what is the name of this painting? Because it looks amazing

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

Diana at the Hunt by Van Balen and Brueghel

Excellent 💂‍♂️🎖️

What is the classical music in the background? May someone tell me pls!?

Very good #brave003

Awesome video. Just wondering, what’s your social media. How do know so much about these books?

@Fiction_Beast

Жыл бұрын

In the description

23:00 "Not Nietzsche... Nature." Ha. Haha. That is pretty funny. You have a great ability to identify the bigger picture while presenting the connections behind it.

I have a brand new insight (I hope!) into the film 2001. It’s thanks to this video. I never knew about this novel or meanings but obviously Richard Strauss’ piece has to connect to the novel & the film So to connect all 3 ideas: it seems Stanley Kubrick is mainly talking about Ubermensch. And I think Kubrick is doing so on 2 levels: 1) a literal showing prehumans being smarter ( & deadlier), then current humans overcoming the challenges of getting to the moon & Saturn. Finally meeting the aliens or god and becoming the Ubermensch… called the space child by movie critics. 2). (Level 2:) I believe Kubrick set out to create the greatest sci-fi film ever created. So the movie itself is an Ubermensch. And according to AFI he did so: afi calls it “the #1 sci-fi film of all time “

@oobrocks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Fiction Beast!

Right. Art can give us a purpose and meaning in our lives and can liberate us from nihilism. Good point in relation to Franz Kafka and Marcel Proust. Thanks

@Fiction_Beast

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely!

Thank you for this. I had a hard time explaining this concept to someone who was only familiar with the Nazi's co-opted version of it. However, I take issue with the "select few" theory. I prefer to believe in the more Buddhist versions of this term of human becomingness...which is that the seeds of such "enlightenment" and creativity are in all human consciousness. (Some would say the Gnostics would agree.) I realize I am painting with broad strokes here in assuming that there is differing terminology for a similar phenomenon, but Neitchze did seem to do his theory a disservice with the "select few" terminology...so much so that the Nazis took that part of the concept and committed all horrors because of it. I would also be curious to hear what non-male author examples you could offer as living up to Nietzsche's superhuman philosophy. Surely, there must be some woman novelist or artist... or was his "Super man" theory truly relegated only to men?

@TheBanjoShowOfficial

6 ай бұрын

kind of interesting to watch people try to separate a teacher's teachings from its consequences. It's not a case of misinterpretation or misunderstanding, it's the all-out denial and execution of God to form-fit the vapid desires of man at the expense of others, because ultimately, there can be no God, no evil, and no good. It's all relativistic and void within a context of all relativistic nonsense and jibber jabbering. So no, I don't think the nazis just took a "part" of the concept, they outright committed to the whole ethos of the ubermensch. They did what, in their eyes, was necessary to create a new world that was perfect within itself, and by its own yard stick. They didn't just grab a piece of the pie, they took the entire pan with them to the grave, and they did it self-servingly as well. And who can blame them then? There is no evil after all... At least from what we are led to believe. The nazis simply fully realized the extent of the superhuman.

Underrated

Brilliant

@Fiction_Beast

Жыл бұрын

Thanks.

Zarathustra (in the novel) overlookes the fact that all great things also recur eternally.

It's been more than 20 years since I read Zarathustra, the second book of Nietzsche I read. It was odd to hear you describe it as a novel. My version was in poem form, so I always thought of it as an epic like Paradise Lost. As an explication of Nietzsche's philosophy, TSZ is very effective, but as a work of art I'm not so sure. Stack it against it's American cousin Leaves of Grass and TSZ comes off a little flat footed. Nietzsche the artist and Nietzsche the philosopher come off much better in The Gay Science, Beyond Good and Evil, Genealogy of Morals. And yes, he was so creative a artist that his writing is open to multiple interpretations.

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

I called it a novel becuase it is a narrative in prose in my Oxford classic edition. But from what I know, the German original is considered one of the best exmaples of German literature. I have read most of Nietzsche's books, but it has a long time since i visited any of them. Nietzsche's version of individual freedom is very radical, free from all societal norms and values to create something.

@donaldkelly3983

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fiction_Beast I forgot I read translations of Nietzsche's German. Zarathustra is likely much better in the original. The failing of being an American is that you think everyone composes in English because that how Iread it.

In what book did Nietzsche criticize Taoism? ? Could you please quote that ? And tell me what book is it ?

Pls help What is the painting at 6:25?

@Fiction_Beast

Жыл бұрын

Pieter Bruegel the elder -the Tower of Babel 1563

Nietsche either speaks to you or it doesn't. Zarathustra is like receiving divine knowledge for the right personality.. and maturity

“Thus Spake Zarathustra” - A Book For All and None. Why the Blue Danube Waltz in the background? It was also an central piece of music in “2001 A Space Odyssey”….

It is worth listening to this with an open mind. Obviously it became significantly corrupted with time but it would be no bad thing to be an ubermensch. However, there is something deeply necessary in living a moral life.

@Fiction_Beast

Жыл бұрын

Nietzsche says morality is for the weak. The strong throughout history bent it to rule their stoic rites. But his argument is not power but creative energy.

Camel: Kindergarten to the middle school Lion: Middle to end of University or got the first job and work for a few years A child: After rebeling and pushing your limit for a while, the interest of those just died down and now you've gotten yourself a bunch of fields to choose from that you actually find meaning and interest in

After watching this video I’m gonna say the first character I think of that is an Ubermensch is Uncle Iroh from ATLA

31:00 There’s many artists and writers you missed. Perhaps, Albert Camus as a prime example. :)

strangely ive found the same answer. without god or faith in humanity to be truthful , i find my comfort in artistic creativity. be it music writing or making pictures, decorating walls or planting the garden, the true meaning of god is nature and creativity for me is my delivering god, my salvation at a soul level.

Don’t worry about what Zarathustra has to say when the grim reaper calls

How beautiful

Remember N. Did not write for all ('what ever is common not valued’) but for few of us, free sprits

That opening tune is cute

Thanks for translite to Brazilian Portuguese

@Fiction_Beast

Жыл бұрын

Awesome.

We need to delve deeper into the Dionysian side and to the actual worship of Dionysus. However, the rites of Dionysus remain a secret like the Eleusinian mysteries. I wonder if there are still those who could return us to the worship of Dionysus and Demeter and initiate us once again into their mysteries.

@MB-wc7dr

Жыл бұрын

I always thought that Nietzsche was secretly looking for something more than his philosophy. I could see why he was attracted to Buddhism which is focused on the mind which would be attractive to someone as cerebral as Nietzsche.

What would Nietzsche think about AI art?

Eternal reoccurrence, though fascinating in implication, is based on shaky physics and mathematics. It’s a worthy alternative to reincarnation and the afterlife though. Less overtly escapist.

Blue Danube music sullied the video.

@Fiction_Beast

Жыл бұрын

Oops

Patterns

What you say is excellent. Just i struggle with your way of expressing. Too fast for me. Maybe im a poor listener but i need slow American style pronunciation. Sorry if that sounds rude .

Schopenhauer said life is will and imagination. Not only will and suffering.

Stamp paper do has a meaning

Wow

You made his philosophy comprehensible, even for a novice like me. He denied God, and found that to go under and sacrifice yourself is the only way to become ubermensch. (Is it too simplistic?:)

@Fiction_Beast

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think he meant self-sacrifice. But he meant to dedicate yourself to creativity.

@sachieasamizu4809

Жыл бұрын

@@Fiction_Beast You have to sacrifice something for dedication.

@Fiction_Beast

Жыл бұрын

I think the word sacrifice has a religious or moral connotation meaning you give up something to do something else but Nietzsche is opposed to both religion and morality. His ubermensch taps into a deeper part of nature to grow in a unique direction like a climbing plant that sends tendrils to latch onto something new. The way nature experiments with species is a good way of understanding Nietzsche. Thousands die but a few makes it. Nietzsche s ubermensch is the one who makes it as a genius artist or an original philosopher. I would consider him a philosopher ubermensch who changed western philosophy.

@sachieasamizu4809

Жыл бұрын

@@Fiction_Beast I think Nietzsche rightly criticised the pre-existing values like morality and religion, but his unique idea has many problems. At least I couldn’t take them literally. But if you see ubermensch as an artistic man with his own values who contributes to human beings, as you say, I can understand.

Its interesting because I am inclined to believe that the artistic route might ultimately lead us back to God. The mystical and this human notion of the absolute is so pervasive in our experience that it seems to me that great art ultimately has to once again give attention to man's yearning for the absolute. In the same way that so many classical writers did. Ultimately it seems to me that Nietzche's dialogue with religion was in its organized and dogmatic structure, at least in Zarathustra. (The genealogy of morality excluded) As man attempts to express his will to power ultimately we will find the perversity of our ego. We will never claim contentment because rather than surrendering to something eternal will chase after an artistic high that lays imaginary. I imagine that as the privileged western man investigates art once again he will be turned back to God. In a sense, it will take our cosmopolite society much longer to see the true Divine and unchanging end of man's actions when those affronted with little across the world will have already been relying on God for contentment without the ego of our western materialism. It also seems to me if God has been killed then at some point I imagine so too will nothingness be vanquished. There is an increasing dogma in the fervent belief in nihilism. In other words, strict metaphysical materialism bars all types of greater meaning baked into the structure of the world. Theism is more plausible in modern analytic philosophy and Platonism and Neoplatonism has not been slain by modernity. Despite this, the modern man is convinced theism, Platonism, Neoplatonism, Aristotelianism, and all other forms of a metaphysic that aren't simplistic scientific materialism are false. The modern man has a dogmatic undying faith in a metaphysical picture that's waning. So will this faith be too dismantled? Will culture eventually rubber band back to the Greeks and the medievals? Who can say

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

God means so many different things to so many different people. It's not an easy term to understand.

@josephscott1236

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fiction_Beast that's true. But I think if you scan the religious traditions of the great monotheism and even some monotheistic religions like Taoism this intuiton about an ineffable ultimate and infinite source of good for which is the sea in which we live and move and have out being. The God thought seems to me to be saying that because the absolute is the foundation of our being it also has to be in a part personal as well. It can give rise to mentality and substance because both is within the absolute. I think if you want a particularly sane notion of God one should just investigate the great mystical traditions. This notion of the logos seems to be shared, people just disagree on how to make sense of it. I remember a story about a Christian missionary who visited a indigenous group. Though they had all sorts of "gods" for the water and wind and whatnot when the missionary described the Christian God they shouted and were excited to hear the missionary talk about the ultimate for which they had already named. So yes God means many different things, and many of those things don't do justice to God. But the ultimate foundation of all reality which is both transcendent and imminent which is both hidden and known through mystical experience is common through the majority of great religious traditions. Even without personhood per se (taoism, Buddhism, etc) I'm sorry to be wordy and in some sense I'm not sure how helpful I'm being but this common traditionally true understanding of God seems to be the source of all being itself. The first and final cause of everything. And in this maximally great state this fundamental reality which is personal and all-knowing somehow cares about you and your concerns. In some sense its a downright hopeful idea, but it is the crux of true religious experience. those who just dogmatically learn of god as an ideal passed down to them (the majority of Christians I'm afraid) know nothing of God personally and therefore speak of God in overly anthromorphic terms. The modern "god" is like zeus for the modern Christian. But if you really care about seeing what men like Dostoyevsky really meant in the fullest sense of the word I'd reccomend reading A.W Tozer, Thomas Merton, St. john of the Cross, the great Sufi poets who my lack of Arabic literacy gives me no ability to spell their names, etc. Not sure how coherent that answer is or how much it helps what you had in mind within your response but if someone came to me in confusion and said how do I know what this thing we call God truly is? This is something like what i'd tell them, but by God hopefully more eloquently LOL... I'm sorry to keep adding addendums but I thought of one more thing. The main point i desired to get at was that as someone who suffered with depression quite a bit, and suffered through it with existentialists on my side. Ultimately I found far greater personal sastisfaction through the ancient wisdom traditions. And it seems to me that none of the existentialist models are proof tested! The saints of the church truly seem out of this world in terms of just outstanding moral character and contentment. Same with the Yogis and famous mystics of the east. But I found through personally trying many different existentialist philosophies that ultimately many of them just heighten ego, and increase disastisfaction or are too incomplete to really serve as a philosophy of life. I think we'll enventually come into a new enlightenment one where this faith in nothingness is questioned! and we will find meaning in platonism, idealims, and who knows maybe even God! That was really the intuition I was trying to get across. Hopefully that did so without overusing a loaded term like God.

@orionlleyessa1306

10 ай бұрын

I think mankind is forming new philosophies and fresh beliefs which will sooner than later, upend our status quo, built over the last 2000 years. It will draw on Greek thought, Pagan ideas etc. but have new insight and its own foundational modes to build upon. I'm hoping... And praying...

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There is a contradiction in Nietzsche. He rejects rationality, rejects good and evil, rejects rational morality, and wants emotion to prevail without restraint or inhibitions. Then he says that this product is harmless, but merely an inspiration. What will prevent them from harming others in the absence of reason and in the absence of good and evil? ? He says the feeling of security and equality that democracy offers is not deserved and that man must suffer... How will man suffer without injustice to others... and democracy works to not oppress others... So the idea is that Nietzsche is against injustice to others, but at the same time with the idea of suffering. And discomfort are two contradictory things Thank you for explaining Nietzsche so clearly, and I hope that you will allow me to re-upload some of your works and mention the name of your channel so that a larger number of Arabs will subscribe to your channel.. Thank you very much.

Only a mind obnubilated by chaos could fashion chaos as an answer compared to the true human's superior virtues (nihilism, tranquility, contentment, ataraxy, moderation, etc.) which still allow for a complete fulfilling life. Poor man, he lived with madness for some years before diyng 😑

Nietzsche's would immediately abandon his 'art' thesis upon seeing the post-modern crude push down our thoughts in modern times.

@Fiction_Beast

Жыл бұрын

Nietzsche was interested in music in particular

medicine are like our super heros in native american lore

Sure, I can expand on the 20 key ideas with bullet points: 1. **Nietzsche’s Revelation**: - Nietzsche’s profound revelation in 1881 inspired the creation of "Thus Spoke Zarathustra." - The novel addresses the crisis of meaning resulting from the death of God and the onset of nihilism. 2. **Artistic Flow and Epiphany**: - Similar to artists, Nietzsche experienced a flood of ideas and words during his writing process. - This creative experience parallels shamanistic or divine revelations, emphasizing the uncontrollable nature of creativity. 3. **Death of God and Nihilism**: - Nietzsche responds to the loss of traditional values and purpose caused by the death of God. - The resulting nihilism reflects a world where life lacks inherent meaning or direction. 4. **Replacing God with Ubermensch**: - Nietzsche proposes the Ubermensch, human artists who embody creativity and self-transcendence, as replacements for traditional religious values. - Ubermensch represents individuals who overcome societal norms and strive for greatness through artistic expression. 5. **Key Concepts in "Thus Spoke Zarathustra"**: - The novel introduces three main concepts: eternal recurrence, will to power, and Ubermensch, shaping Nietzsche’s philosophical framework. 6. **Eternal Recurrence**: - Nietzsche’s concept that everything in the universe repeats infinitely. - Individuals are challenged to embrace life fully as each moment recurs eternally. 7. **Will to Power**: - Influenced by Schopenhauer and Darwin, Nietzsche emphasizes the inherent drive in all beings for dominance and greatness. - Power, in this context, extends beyond physical force to encompass creative and intellectual prowess. 8. **Ubermensch’s Evolution**: - Ubermensch symbolizes human evolution beyond societal constraints and conventional morality. - The stages of the camel, lion, and child represent the evolution from conformity to creative self-expression and value creation. 9. **Response to Nihilism**: - Nietzsche critiques religious and rational solutions to nihilism, advocating for embracing life’s challenges and joys. - Artistic expression and individual greatness are proposed as antidotes to existential despair. 10. **Post-Enlightenment Reckoning**: - Nietzsche explores the consequences of Enlightenment ideals and scientific progress on traditional religious beliefs. - The decline of religious frameworks necessitates new approaches to meaning-making and value creation. 11. **Challenge to Rational Utopias**: - Nietzsche critiques totalitarian regimes and rational utopias for their limitations in addressing existential questions and human desires. - He highlights the dangers of rigid conformity and suppression of individuality. 12. **Art as Salvation**: - Nietzsche argues that art offers a path to transcending nihilism by tapping into human creativity and passion. - Unlike religion or rationality, art engages with life’s complexities and uncertainties, infusing meaning into existence. 13. **Dionysian Influence**: - Nietzsche contrasts Apollo’s rationality with Dionysus’ passion, advocating for a balanced approach that embraces human nature fully. - Embracing the irrational and emotional aspects of life enriches human experience and creativity. 14. **Solitude and Creativity**: - Nietzsche values solitude as essential for deep thought and creative expression. - Many artists, including Kafka, Proust, and Bukowski, found inspiration and clarity in moments of seclusion. 15. **Eastern Philosophical Critique**: - Nietzsche criticizes Eastern religions like Buddhism for suppressing human desires and passions. - He advocates for embracing life’s challenges and joys fully, rejecting attempts to escape or transcend earthly realities. 16. **Ubermensch’s Journey**: - The stages of the camel, lion, and child symbolize the Ubermensch’s evolution from societal conformity to creative self-expression and value creation. - Each stage represents a transformation in how individuals engage with societal norms and personal growth. 17. **Celebration of Life and Body**: - Nietzsche challenges traditional religious denigrations of the body and earthly pleasures. - Ubermensch celebrates life, embraces bodily experiences, and confronts challenges with courage and creativity. 18. **Influence on Literature**: - Nietzsche’s philosophy profoundly influenced 20th-century novelists, emphasizing creativity, self-discovery, and overcoming societal norms. - Writers like Proust exemplify Nietzschean ideals of artistic exploration and the quest for authentic self-expression. 19. **Embracing Contradictions**: - Nietzsche’s acceptance of internal contradictions reflects his rejection of rigid order and conformity. - Chaos and contradictions are seen as essential for creativity, growth, and exploring diverse perspectives. 20. **Art as Meaning-Maker**: - In a world without traditional religious frameworks, Nietzsche champions art as a potent force for imbuing life with significance and purpose. - Artistic expression allows individuals to navigate existential challenges, embrace life’s complexities, and find personal meaning beyond conventional beliefs.

34:40 nah.... we are not worms apes or sheeps... in heart... we are caterpillars. 😊 "Cosmos Laundromat - First Cycle. Official Blender Foundation release."

I am reading the book, halfway through. I have hard time to understand it. Being an artist I feel some relation to it. It may be better in the original German. Any translation is an interpretation.

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, translation is always an approximation.

Ubermensches on the tiniest of tiny planets among 100 Bil or 200 Bil galaxies. As Nietsche once pointed out, the last philospher always builds on knocking down the previous. Discard your buggy whip and reins practical wisdom. Join the science nerds. JWST, JUL 12

God is dead? Not really, God in this sense is the conscience of good and the devil - bad/controlling conscience. God is only dead if conscience is dead. Church is good only for spiritualism protection in emotional value, like a social club. Still, this work is the best on philosophy. Much respects!

5:00-5:14 utilitarianism wants to maximize happiness, not just for humans but also for other animals.

I was contemplating buying this - now I definitely will.