I recently attempted a reread of this as a tragedy in the Greeco-Shakespearian sense and found an interesting perspective in viewing the Kid as a tragic hero and the Judge his foil as Tiresias is a to Oedipus. Neither are evil per see, they simply are and, like Mephisto and Faust, both can be looked at as one in the same or different parts of the same psyche, the Judge being a universal part of every man, the desire for epistemic certainty. The Judge has confidence which allows his to believe he knows everything; he has an epistemology of the world and is active while the Kid is rather passive (by the end) and is Becoming ( in the beginning/middle) instead of the Judge's Being. The Judge loves and loathes Becoming and either nurtures or destroys it, judging each instance based on whatever his desires and will is in that moment (true Being). The tragedy is that we all will succumb to desire to stop Becoming at some point and look for a rest from the Faustian striving and seek something more stable, more permanent, Being more Judge like (if only in having a solid epistemology). This is the White Wale we are all longing for, chasing for, desiring. When we "give up the chase" for something less than what we actually want, we become desiccated, deformed, and destroyed versions of ourselves; found twisted and lifeless on a bathroom floor. The issue is, regardless of if we achieve our ambitions or not, we all tire eventually... This is the tragedy: success or failure gives us the same end. So long as we are striving to find and actualize our dreams or goals or ambitions even if we don't really know what they are, simply being abstract happiness or stability, etc., in this life and honestly are efforting with our whole self (like a child, striving for maturity) we are alive and being vital in THIS life, but, we all come to the place where we cease this vitality and lean on a metaphysical, supernatural, and/or nonsensical reality which either will never be or resides elsewhere, on some other plane of (non) existence. At this point, we are "dead" and might as well be found twisted on the bathroom floor; we are revolting to the sight of others who can see us for what we truly are; our doppelganger the White Wale we wanted to get, "gets" us. This is where I believe either McCarthy nails his audience like a great writer of tragedy must. A Greek tragedy should affirm life and the striver despite their flaws as understood in the prePlatonic society and their Homeric morals. By the time we get to Goethe, Nietzsche chides him for making Faust not an authentic tragedy since there is an ultimate dissolving of the tragic with Faust striving being the redeeming quality which "saves" him in the end, but, I argue that the tragic form is not a universal Greek one and must change or morph to fit its audiences perspective and Faust does this perfectly as does Hamlet. Goethe does this with Faust and, I believe, understands his modern man, modern society, his audience, as McCarthy does too. Modern men had an idea of ultimate redemption, purpose of their life extending beyond it, and a notion of sin. These ideas are not to be taken as literal truths, objective, universal, and absolute, by use post modern (ew) men but, they are realities thanks to Christianity/Secular Humanism we have baked or hard wired into our psyches and cannot simply handwave them away. Sophocles wrote Oedipus' tragedies prior to the Socratic reevaluation of values in Greek society. The Greeks did not have to be concerned with sin on a universal scale or redemption in an absolute sense. Despite his flaws, Oedipus was cheered in the theatre, he affirmed life for the Greek who sought to live on those scales; Hamlet does the same ('we eat in life and are eaten in death'); The Kid does NOT and this is the genius of McCarthy, he nails the post modern (for lack of a better term) human condition of nihilism we all live in. For this reason, I see Blood Meridian as a tragedy, the most updated form of the tragedy, one which does NOT affirm life in the least as compared to the original Greek which affiremed in its totality, the Shakespearean which affirmed it abstractly, and the Goethean which affirmed it passively, after the fact). I believe the epilogue attempts to show some affirmation of life, that at least life continues (with the post-digger and the those followers) but this, in my perspective, fails to affirm life in the least from our perspective. We do not simply value life continuing we have a whole host of metaphysical baggage we are concerned with, too. As such, we are a collection of skeptics, unable to accept a lie as a truth and unable to accept the truth as the truth. We've seen behind the curtain and the Wizard is not even there! So we continue to erect prosthetics for God in society which aim to fill the gap while acting as though we never needed him/them in the first place. So long as we are striving to find some new mooring, some new purpose, some new aim, goal, straight line, we are as the Kid was, free from the grasp of the White Wale. Once we grasp at some dogwhistle, some mooring which gave past humans purpose and meaning due to fatigue of the pursuit, we then have lost vitality, we are no longer "alive" and the White Wale destroys us. To turn back to past examples which gave meaning and purpsoe to our ancestors, as the Kid did as an adult, is to be illiterate in their ability to ground life as the kid was. We've heard the stories and know the tales but cannot read the actual text which would give us what we so desire: meaning and purpose; stability and justification; cause and being. This is to say, the Greeks had their culture, and the Romans theirs, and so on and so forth, and they obtained meaning by living their lives in their culture, worshiping their gods and participating. The reason heresy was met with death was (at least subconsciously) because the person who went against the grain to that extent was already dead so it was justified to kill them; they were no longer citizen and the law did not apply to them. To challenge the social convention was to seem like an alien, a monster, an other, different and in need of destroying. Our culture is nihilism; nothingness; unmoored existence; and when we grow too weak to handle this and look for safe refuge, we become an atheistic skeptic in ancient Athens (even Socrates and Diogenes believed gods existed) To be an atheist then would be somewhat like it is to be a Christian, etc. today in Western society, but, at least then, it was new to be an atheist could carve out their own path and still be vital despite the fear of those around them. To attempt to go back to former forms of meaning today is la petite mort in the most negative sense, and this is what I believe McCarthy was aiming for; it's philosophical suicide; it's what you envisioned your potential, the freedom you thought you would have with maturity; the ability to actualize your ends; vitality; an aim; a goal; a straight line; this is all gone. This is our tragic condition to search for what we do not know; to aim for what we cannot see; to be truly free from all except ourselves; to realize that the freedom is to much to bear; to be swallowed by the failed or actualized ambitions of our vital days; to die and have life continue on as though we never existed.
@timgeurts16 күн бұрын
This is good, writing my bachelor thing on him, was relaxing after studying, not really planning to do any hard video's but still clicked on it. Now I'm totally re-energized! Great explanation, good passion.
@rajanya740819 күн бұрын
Brilliant work. Why did you stop uploading, please do more often. Thanks.
@doinitforthestreets28 күн бұрын
This is so well done, thank you for doing this, you saved me a thousand hours of intellectual labor
@Endymion76629 күн бұрын
I'm absolutely gobsmacked that I understood this far better than I expected to. How terrifying.
@larianton1008Ай бұрын
Good one. Although Indisagree with witgensteins core ideas, he is monsterously missrepresentent in mainstream philosophical culture (if I can even call it that). This cleared things up a lot, and makes him sound consistent.
@quirttАй бұрын
I am starting to think wittgenstein isn't all that interesting
@anomitasАй бұрын
Philosophy BTFO
@janicewolk6492Ай бұрын
Thank you for not sounding like a manic idiot.
@blotto3422Ай бұрын
Ironically, Wittgenstein sounds exactly like Socrates in the Pheadrus.
@TheAmazingBladezoАй бұрын
Best film analysis I've encountered. A veil has been lifted. Every particle of this post is delicious nutrition to me, and I have a better understanding of my own work because of it.
@therearenoshortcuts9868Ай бұрын
truly ahead of his time he was trying to create VR 100+ years before it was actually created
@animalsarebeautifulpeople3094Ай бұрын
Anyone who is interested in ethics and Jesus should watch the new documentary CHRISTSPIRACY
@Rico-Suave_2 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you very much , note to self(nts) watched all of it 39:12
@joehuiras49552 ай бұрын
i want to be inside a giant cube every face a screen. every screen showing napoleons face or different sides of the battle. a live orchestras in each ear. and in smellovision. i want to smell what he smelled and taste what napoleon tasted. full immersion. always napoleon.
@booshank23272 ай бұрын
I've never read any Dostoevsky (I am about to), but I know some of his ideas and I've had before any exposure, many similar thoughts. I think the most profound thought I had independent of others after years in isolation, was that of 'me' being arbitrary, that being assigned to this particular DNA expression with which to sense and experience life through, appears to be completely based on nothing, that 'I' had an equal chance of being some Indian girl in a slum, Dostoevsky himself, my mother, my neighbour, that homeless guy in town who has been around for decades who everybody recognises. I still struggle what to do with this idea, which I guess most closely resembles Pantheism. I am you, you are me, we come from the same place, the division is an optical illusion and psychological trap for the ego.
@samuelbarber61772 ай бұрын
Silent movies really are some of the most exciting films out there. The critics Siskel and Ebert did a great special on their show about the best silent pictures. In their words, Silent movies aren’t missing anything, the same way black and white films aren’t bereft. These films are often almost entirely visual, be it the riotous silent comedies of Chaplin, Keaton, or Lloyd, the brilliant horror films such as the German expressionist picture, Nosferatu, or even good old fashioned epics like this Napoleon or Intolerance. There’s a real mystique and beauty to movies like these. They’re like historical artefacts, and most of them only have the films themselves to prove they even existed (and those are the surviving films). 1927 was probably the zenith of this period. There was Sunrise - A Song of Two Humans, Napoleon, the first Best Picture winner, Wings, Metropolis. Beautiful cinema. It’s a shame it had to disappear.
@aidanrock87192 ай бұрын
it wasn't from the future though, was it
@automaticjellyfish85392 ай бұрын
You've got to add patriotism and propaganda to the mix !
@Top_Lad2 ай бұрын
Hope you stay motivated to make more videos, they are so well done and if you could just stick to it, I bet your channel would grow a lot.
@chriskelly18902 ай бұрын
Most astonishing movie I've ever seen.
@bradenblackmon76422 ай бұрын
I got a lot out of listening to this and I’m an ardent fan of Dostoevsky. I absolutely do not think you talk to slow but rather other you tubers talk ridiculously fast. Keep up the great work.
@abdulazizhawsah98842 ай бұрын
svidrigailov is the most realistic character in history.
@abdulazizhawsah98842 ай бұрын
🙌🏾
@user-ir5kg9dz4b2 ай бұрын
I’m so amazed when a film from the 1910s and 1920s can be just as if not more impressive than most films of later eras…it really gives them a new sense of “genius” filmmaking.
@boroclan2 ай бұрын
DUDE HELL YEAH THIS GOT ME PUMPED UP
@fidesedquivide34862 ай бұрын
You got a new subscriber. Thanks 😊
@AhmedDahshan_2 ай бұрын
“And then came that jerk called socrates” Subbed 👍🏻
@Liisa31392 ай бұрын
As a hobby photographer I so much agree on LOOKING at things.
@wzywg2 ай бұрын
the key to SoKrates was he knew we forget we know nothing, because we know our tiny realm so well. What I adore about philosophy is I feel now, 2500 years later, we are no further ahead.
@breblizz43212 ай бұрын
Jordan B Peterson speaks of Dostoevsky often, if you liked this video you might be interested in listening to/watching some of Jordan Peterson’s videos
@Rudy71792 ай бұрын
This is my favorite video on YT. I come back to this video often and it has proven a consistent source of inspiration and comfort. I have a deep appreciation for Dostoevsky and analyses of his works, but yours is the most coherent and approachable dissection of Dostoevky's philosophy that i have ever heard. Thank you for the time and energy you put into making this, from what ive seen in the comments, it has impacted many more lives than just mine.
@ExtremeEnthusiast7042 ай бұрын
Thank you for making a video about a person im so interested in yet nobody seems to cover.
@Rambouillet17253 ай бұрын
The jews plundered Abel Gance creativity and told lies claiming it was their own.
@Bill-ou7zp3 ай бұрын
Isn’t it simplistic to say W championed ‘looking’ over ‘theorizing’? The earlier quotes in the vid suggest he acknowledged the importance of theorizing as long as one was aware of the language game they were playing
@owensomers46073 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this
@haasklaw7643 ай бұрын
Finding out about this movie literally made me question whether or not the Mandela Effect was real. It literally feels like someone went back in time and made it. Crazy
@johnkrieger1853 ай бұрын
Why do they always say that something great was "ahead of its time" or "from the future"? Do you really think that films in the future will be as great as "Napoleon"?
@paulf39993 ай бұрын
Glad to see you back brother! I'm French and I love your videos. I bought many of your book recommandations, excited to discover this one!
@Itried20takennames3 ай бұрын
“Due to limitations of camera tech at the time, they couldn’t strap a camera to a soccer ball to throw it at a kid’s face.” Now we could totally do that,except movies throwing things at kids is thankfully frowned upon.
@joseph88713 ай бұрын
YEEEEEAAAHH BAYBEE
@F--B3 ай бұрын
Holy moly, he's back!
@dianal.clausen81183 ай бұрын
Impressive, enjoyai and entertaining. Subscribed.
@kaustubh973 ай бұрын
its been a while
@yaldabraxas3 ай бұрын
Hey, you're alive! LFG!
@ariyahreuven3 ай бұрын
what the fuck, i just subscribed to you two days ago and was wishing you were still making videos, then you release this video on one of my favorite books of all time??? the simulation is breaking. in all seriousness i hope you continue making videos theyre incredible!
@peachnehi73403 ай бұрын
21:50 = Grace
@ariyahreuven3 ай бұрын
how is this not more popular???
@mid0rri4113 ай бұрын
this made me understand so much in so many ways i cannot begin to express how much i appreciate this entire video
Пікірлер
Thank you for the great content!
I recently attempted a reread of this as a tragedy in the Greeco-Shakespearian sense and found an interesting perspective in viewing the Kid as a tragic hero and the Judge his foil as Tiresias is a to Oedipus. Neither are evil per see, they simply are and, like Mephisto and Faust, both can be looked at as one in the same or different parts of the same psyche, the Judge being a universal part of every man, the desire for epistemic certainty. The Judge has confidence which allows his to believe he knows everything; he has an epistemology of the world and is active while the Kid is rather passive (by the end) and is Becoming ( in the beginning/middle) instead of the Judge's Being. The Judge loves and loathes Becoming and either nurtures or destroys it, judging each instance based on whatever his desires and will is in that moment (true Being). The tragedy is that we all will succumb to desire to stop Becoming at some point and look for a rest from the Faustian striving and seek something more stable, more permanent, Being more Judge like (if only in having a solid epistemology). This is the White Wale we are all longing for, chasing for, desiring. When we "give up the chase" for something less than what we actually want, we become desiccated, deformed, and destroyed versions of ourselves; found twisted and lifeless on a bathroom floor. The issue is, regardless of if we achieve our ambitions or not, we all tire eventually... This is the tragedy: success or failure gives us the same end. So long as we are striving to find and actualize our dreams or goals or ambitions even if we don't really know what they are, simply being abstract happiness or stability, etc., in this life and honestly are efforting with our whole self (like a child, striving for maturity) we are alive and being vital in THIS life, but, we all come to the place where we cease this vitality and lean on a metaphysical, supernatural, and/or nonsensical reality which either will never be or resides elsewhere, on some other plane of (non) existence. At this point, we are "dead" and might as well be found twisted on the bathroom floor; we are revolting to the sight of others who can see us for what we truly are; our doppelganger the White Wale we wanted to get, "gets" us. This is where I believe either McCarthy nails his audience like a great writer of tragedy must. A Greek tragedy should affirm life and the striver despite their flaws as understood in the prePlatonic society and their Homeric morals. By the time we get to Goethe, Nietzsche chides him for making Faust not an authentic tragedy since there is an ultimate dissolving of the tragic with Faust striving being the redeeming quality which "saves" him in the end, but, I argue that the tragic form is not a universal Greek one and must change or morph to fit its audiences perspective and Faust does this perfectly as does Hamlet. Goethe does this with Faust and, I believe, understands his modern man, modern society, his audience, as McCarthy does too. Modern men had an idea of ultimate redemption, purpose of their life extending beyond it, and a notion of sin. These ideas are not to be taken as literal truths, objective, universal, and absolute, by use post modern (ew) men but, they are realities thanks to Christianity/Secular Humanism we have baked or hard wired into our psyches and cannot simply handwave them away. Sophocles wrote Oedipus' tragedies prior to the Socratic reevaluation of values in Greek society. The Greeks did not have to be concerned with sin on a universal scale or redemption in an absolute sense. Despite his flaws, Oedipus was cheered in the theatre, he affirmed life for the Greek who sought to live on those scales; Hamlet does the same ('we eat in life and are eaten in death'); The Kid does NOT and this is the genius of McCarthy, he nails the post modern (for lack of a better term) human condition of nihilism we all live in. For this reason, I see Blood Meridian as a tragedy, the most updated form of the tragedy, one which does NOT affirm life in the least as compared to the original Greek which affiremed in its totality, the Shakespearean which affirmed it abstractly, and the Goethean which affirmed it passively, after the fact). I believe the epilogue attempts to show some affirmation of life, that at least life continues (with the post-digger and the those followers) but this, in my perspective, fails to affirm life in the least from our perspective. We do not simply value life continuing we have a whole host of metaphysical baggage we are concerned with, too. As such, we are a collection of skeptics, unable to accept a lie as a truth and unable to accept the truth as the truth. We've seen behind the curtain and the Wizard is not even there! So we continue to erect prosthetics for God in society which aim to fill the gap while acting as though we never needed him/them in the first place. So long as we are striving to find some new mooring, some new purpose, some new aim, goal, straight line, we are as the Kid was, free from the grasp of the White Wale. Once we grasp at some dogwhistle, some mooring which gave past humans purpose and meaning due to fatigue of the pursuit, we then have lost vitality, we are no longer "alive" and the White Wale destroys us. To turn back to past examples which gave meaning and purpsoe to our ancestors, as the Kid did as an adult, is to be illiterate in their ability to ground life as the kid was. We've heard the stories and know the tales but cannot read the actual text which would give us what we so desire: meaning and purpose; stability and justification; cause and being. This is to say, the Greeks had their culture, and the Romans theirs, and so on and so forth, and they obtained meaning by living their lives in their culture, worshiping their gods and participating. The reason heresy was met with death was (at least subconsciously) because the person who went against the grain to that extent was already dead so it was justified to kill them; they were no longer citizen and the law did not apply to them. To challenge the social convention was to seem like an alien, a monster, an other, different and in need of destroying. Our culture is nihilism; nothingness; unmoored existence; and when we grow too weak to handle this and look for safe refuge, we become an atheistic skeptic in ancient Athens (even Socrates and Diogenes believed gods existed) To be an atheist then would be somewhat like it is to be a Christian, etc. today in Western society, but, at least then, it was new to be an atheist could carve out their own path and still be vital despite the fear of those around them. To attempt to go back to former forms of meaning today is la petite mort in the most negative sense, and this is what I believe McCarthy was aiming for; it's philosophical suicide; it's what you envisioned your potential, the freedom you thought you would have with maturity; the ability to actualize your ends; vitality; an aim; a goal; a straight line; this is all gone. This is our tragic condition to search for what we do not know; to aim for what we cannot see; to be truly free from all except ourselves; to realize that the freedom is to much to bear; to be swallowed by the failed or actualized ambitions of our vital days; to die and have life continue on as though we never existed.
This is good, writing my bachelor thing on him, was relaxing after studying, not really planning to do any hard video's but still clicked on it. Now I'm totally re-energized! Great explanation, good passion.
Brilliant work. Why did you stop uploading, please do more often. Thanks.
This is so well done, thank you for doing this, you saved me a thousand hours of intellectual labor
I'm absolutely gobsmacked that I understood this far better than I expected to. How terrifying.
Good one. Although Indisagree with witgensteins core ideas, he is monsterously missrepresentent in mainstream philosophical culture (if I can even call it that). This cleared things up a lot, and makes him sound consistent.
I am starting to think wittgenstein isn't all that interesting
Philosophy BTFO
Thank you for not sounding like a manic idiot.
Ironically, Wittgenstein sounds exactly like Socrates in the Pheadrus.
Best film analysis I've encountered. A veil has been lifted. Every particle of this post is delicious nutrition to me, and I have a better understanding of my own work because of it.
truly ahead of his time he was trying to create VR 100+ years before it was actually created
Anyone who is interested in ethics and Jesus should watch the new documentary CHRISTSPIRACY
Great video, thank you very much , note to self(nts) watched all of it 39:12
i want to be inside a giant cube every face a screen. every screen showing napoleons face or different sides of the battle. a live orchestras in each ear. and in smellovision. i want to smell what he smelled and taste what napoleon tasted. full immersion. always napoleon.
I've never read any Dostoevsky (I am about to), but I know some of his ideas and I've had before any exposure, many similar thoughts. I think the most profound thought I had independent of others after years in isolation, was that of 'me' being arbitrary, that being assigned to this particular DNA expression with which to sense and experience life through, appears to be completely based on nothing, that 'I' had an equal chance of being some Indian girl in a slum, Dostoevsky himself, my mother, my neighbour, that homeless guy in town who has been around for decades who everybody recognises. I still struggle what to do with this idea, which I guess most closely resembles Pantheism. I am you, you are me, we come from the same place, the division is an optical illusion and psychological trap for the ego.
Silent movies really are some of the most exciting films out there. The critics Siskel and Ebert did a great special on their show about the best silent pictures. In their words, Silent movies aren’t missing anything, the same way black and white films aren’t bereft. These films are often almost entirely visual, be it the riotous silent comedies of Chaplin, Keaton, or Lloyd, the brilliant horror films such as the German expressionist picture, Nosferatu, or even good old fashioned epics like this Napoleon or Intolerance. There’s a real mystique and beauty to movies like these. They’re like historical artefacts, and most of them only have the films themselves to prove they even existed (and those are the surviving films). 1927 was probably the zenith of this period. There was Sunrise - A Song of Two Humans, Napoleon, the first Best Picture winner, Wings, Metropolis. Beautiful cinema. It’s a shame it had to disappear.
it wasn't from the future though, was it
You've got to add patriotism and propaganda to the mix !
Hope you stay motivated to make more videos, they are so well done and if you could just stick to it, I bet your channel would grow a lot.
Most astonishing movie I've ever seen.
I got a lot out of listening to this and I’m an ardent fan of Dostoevsky. I absolutely do not think you talk to slow but rather other you tubers talk ridiculously fast. Keep up the great work.
svidrigailov is the most realistic character in history.
🙌🏾
I’m so amazed when a film from the 1910s and 1920s can be just as if not more impressive than most films of later eras…it really gives them a new sense of “genius” filmmaking.
DUDE HELL YEAH THIS GOT ME PUMPED UP
You got a new subscriber. Thanks 😊
“And then came that jerk called socrates” Subbed 👍🏻
As a hobby photographer I so much agree on LOOKING at things.
the key to SoKrates was he knew we forget we know nothing, because we know our tiny realm so well. What I adore about philosophy is I feel now, 2500 years later, we are no further ahead.
Jordan B Peterson speaks of Dostoevsky often, if you liked this video you might be interested in listening to/watching some of Jordan Peterson’s videos
This is my favorite video on YT. I come back to this video often and it has proven a consistent source of inspiration and comfort. I have a deep appreciation for Dostoevsky and analyses of his works, but yours is the most coherent and approachable dissection of Dostoevky's philosophy that i have ever heard. Thank you for the time and energy you put into making this, from what ive seen in the comments, it has impacted many more lives than just mine.
Thank you for making a video about a person im so interested in yet nobody seems to cover.
The jews plundered Abel Gance creativity and told lies claiming it was their own.
Isn’t it simplistic to say W championed ‘looking’ over ‘theorizing’? The earlier quotes in the vid suggest he acknowledged the importance of theorizing as long as one was aware of the language game they were playing
Thank you for making this
Finding out about this movie literally made me question whether or not the Mandela Effect was real. It literally feels like someone went back in time and made it. Crazy
Why do they always say that something great was "ahead of its time" or "from the future"? Do you really think that films in the future will be as great as "Napoleon"?
Glad to see you back brother! I'm French and I love your videos. I bought many of your book recommandations, excited to discover this one!
“Due to limitations of camera tech at the time, they couldn’t strap a camera to a soccer ball to throw it at a kid’s face.” Now we could totally do that,except movies throwing things at kids is thankfully frowned upon.
YEEEEEAAAHH BAYBEE
Holy moly, he's back!
Impressive, enjoyai and entertaining. Subscribed.
its been a while
Hey, you're alive! LFG!
what the fuck, i just subscribed to you two days ago and was wishing you were still making videos, then you release this video on one of my favorite books of all time??? the simulation is breaking. in all seriousness i hope you continue making videos theyre incredible!
21:50 = Grace
how is this not more popular???
this made me understand so much in so many ways i cannot begin to express how much i appreciate this entire video