THIS IS EVERYTHING I WAS LOOKING FOR THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH AS A MEXICAN AMERICAN I CANNOT EXPLAIN MY OBSESSION WITH VEDIC AND FINNISH MYSTERIES I AM CALLED BY IT AND MUST LEARN IMMEDIATELY SUBSCRIBED

@Anttimation

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you! Yeah I wanted a video like this but there wasn't one so I had to make it, hehe.

@roflswamp6

3 жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation ever heard of ixaxaar publications? I think they had something on Finnish pantheon as well highly recommend

@Anttimation

3 жыл бұрын

@@roflswamp6 No I haven't. Thanks for the tip!

@dmitritelvanni4068

2 жыл бұрын

Ikr. Been waiting for a good quick breakdown of finnic myth for years now. I dont want to read the kalevala until i learn finnish.

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

@@dmitritelvanni4068 not to try to scare you but the language of Kalevala is on another, ancient level. Many of the words are already lost to the modern human. Which makes it more epic, I think.

So many ppl in Finland thinks Perkele = devil, been trying to tell them it's not the devil it's the thunder but they just laugh at me. Also fun thing, I have heard that during the war between Finland and the Soviet Union. Soviet soldiers thought that Perkele means horse in Finnish, because Finnish soldiers were shouting Perkele! to the horses (Finnhorses are really stubborn)

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's so stuck in the heads of modern Finns, hard to change. Funny thing about the horses, haven't heard before!

@Winland88

2 жыл бұрын

Some even mix it with Satan, always had to point out that if Perkele is Satan then why the hell we have a term Saatana >_>

@appleciderhorror12

2 жыл бұрын

@@Winland88 "rakkaalla lapsella on monta nimeä"

@jamesbernadette6216

2 жыл бұрын

@@Winland88 Going even further, Satan himself didn't even exist in the original beliefs of Judaism and Christianity but was an embellishment made up in the middle ages. The term "satan" in the original Hebrew texts apparently meant "adversary" and was an angel tasked to "oppose" Yahweh's ideas so he could see if they were good or not, giving a second opinion so to speak. It's quite funny and interesting how mythology keeps evolving like this, so who is to say the modern interpretation of Perkele is any less valid compared to the origins.

@signekroner4588

2 ай бұрын

The dominating god of a religion that was then subdued by christianity would be degraded to an evil god - Satan. That is clearly the case here with Perkele.

Good to note that the first version of Kalevala was a lot more "pure" collection of poems and folklore, whereas the new Kalevala is, like you said, edited by the author to make up a sensible story.

@reme7903

Жыл бұрын

What if i have one printed in 1928? Is that already cherrypicked by some publisher or is it complete?

@tiberiumnp8030

Жыл бұрын

@@reme7903 Yeah the "new" Kalevala was published in 1849. So unless your copy specifically states that it's the original or "old" version, then you have the current one. The old one is more or less just a collection of stuff and the new one presents a somewhat coherent story.

@reme7903

Жыл бұрын

@@tiberiumnp8030 oh okay thank you, i'll see if it has anyhing about spesifically being the old one. It's ceveral hundred pages long though.

Thank you for this brother. As a Finnish American I’ve been trying to learn more about my heritage. It’s been hard especially since I can’t speak Finnish (though I’m trying to learn). So this page is a huge help for sure 🙌

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Yeah I'm glad these have been found by quite a few Finnish Americans! More stuff coming, as always.

@suissais4732

2 жыл бұрын

Your name doesent sound finnish

@andrewzaccardelli3844

2 жыл бұрын

@@suissais4732 That’s because I’m a Finnish American. I’m 1/3 Finnish. But where I live I’ve rarely met another. That’s why I like this page, it helps me reconnect

@suissais4732

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewzaccardelli3844 ok

@Brodiedooder

2 жыл бұрын

Finnish American here too. Can't speak Finnish (also trying to learn, kinda hard when no one around you speaks Finnish except a few relatives that lives miles away), and try to learn more of my ancestry. Being a neopagan too, learning about old Finnish Pagan traditions to bring aspects of it into my practice is something I do.

I would love to see a video with Norse, Celtic and Finnic pagan mythology. I have Danish, Irish and Finnish maternal roots. I somehow feel connected to all 3, even though I was born in Canada, 2nd generation. Your art is beautiful. I've subscribed.

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Well, all mythologies have something in common and try to answer some fundamental questions, that's one reason for me that makes it so interesting. Check out @Irish in Finland for Celtic/Irish stuff.

@js1423

2 жыл бұрын

There's also Creganford, who tackles Indo--European mythology and Dr. Jackson Crawford who makes linguistic and mythological content here on KZread!

I think the shit elf is my favourite, it visited my work one year and filled the kitchen wall.

@Anttimation

3 жыл бұрын

Oh boy... You witnessed his powers first hand.

Despite having no Finnish blood, nor any Scandinavian generally, I found a fascination with Finland that began with an unexpected delve into metal music during high school (Insomnium, Ensiferum, some of Amorphis). From what I could gather from interviews, online claims, lyrics and renditions of melodies stemming primarily from these artists, I decided to read the Kalevala in the form of the available compilation of Lonnort and translation by Bosley. I will not pretend to have understood all of it, perhaps not even most of it. I was a bit pressed for time when I decided to read it during my senior year, so I actually made it into an assignment for my English class. That assignment was originally supposed to be chosen from a specific list of approved books. I think the only reason I was allowed to deviate was that the Kalevala was a very impressive choice with a deep history. That was roughly 12 years ago. I still remember a bit of of it. I didn't fully realize that my copy was a selective compilation of countless stories over countless years, let alone a perhaps inherently flawed translation. Subscribed now. I look forward to your content and to see if I can begin the appreciate the Kalevala to a further extent.

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

That's how it often starts, with metal! Impressed that you read it! It's no easy read, that's for sure. Thank you for watching! Maybe you already found it but I have a series of Kalevala specifically, and more episodes will follow.

@WitchKing-of-Perkele

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation There were plenty of things I recognized, namely characters, some of their interactions, and the basics of the creation of the world. And there were also plenty upon plenty of other parts and rich details that I either didn't pick up on during my reading then, or didn't understand the significance of, or that left my memory over time. The animation certainly helps! I look forward to future episodes! Finnish history and folklore is much more enthralling than what I am surrounded by in the US Midwest.

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

@@WitchKing-of-Perkele thanks again! And how did the presenation go back in the day? No one in my school would have had the courage to pick such an exotic subject, that's for sure.

@WitchKing-of-Perkele

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation I recall a past English teacher describing me as "eccentric". I think I must have taken that to heart and stopped caring too much, at least for the rest of high school and some of college, about so-called correct responses to things. I don't know if it was outright courage to chose the Kalevala; it might have simply been me saying that I'm picking this and the teacher being too curious (or maybe resigned) to make me opt for something I apparently didn't care about. I'm afraid I do not remember all of the assignment so I can only be vague in what I think I actually did. There were a couple things about the assignment. First was an in-class writing prompt, for which I briefly told of Kullervo who struggled to do anything well, never truly received much in life, sought revenge for his ails, and ultimately died by his own hand. Next was a short paper, for which I think I focused on "The Golden Bride" (Chapter 37 - I'm flipping through my copy here for name spelling), as pursued by Ilmarinen. If I remember right, Ilmarinen sought a new wife after Kullervo in prior chapters set up his then wife's death. No matter how precious, gold and silver do not forge living and loving beings. Final few lines, spoken by Vainamoinen, "Don't woo a woman of gold Or work on one of silver For the gleam of gold is cold And silver's glitter is chill", evidently prompted me to write a little note at the end, "Never have more true unspoken words been hidden beneath the true lie of our values, emotions, and thoughts" (I'm not entirely sure what the hell I meant there now). Last was an individual oral presentation with the teacher, I think just elaborating on writing prompt and paper. Forgive me if I've gotten some things wrong. This is as best as I can remember right now. Just tried to be as thorough as I can with editing.

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

@@WitchKing-of-Perkele thanks! That's great, and the fact that you still remember so much from a school presentation means it was well worth it!

Love the animation style

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I liked making it.

2:44 I love it when you include Moomintroll in this video 🥰.

@Anttimation

Жыл бұрын

To my generation and older, he is an important figure! Not sure about today's kids.

@user-ke9sy2cz8k

Жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation We'll when you said that unlike the other trolls we know in other stories, Moomintroll, his family (Moominpappa and Moominmamma), friends (Snorkmaiden, Little My, Sniff (he may not be a troll but he is related to his father the Muddler), Snufkin, Snork, the Hemulen, the Police Chief) and everyone else in Moominvalley are friendly trolls. I agree with you, not all trolls are considered frightening.

Your artwork is stunning!

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Appreciate it

at last channel on Finnish mythology! way more interesting and easier to understand watch your videos than reading books, kiitos! love from Indonesia

@Anttimation

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Very cool you found this stuff interesting despite the huge distance.

@WaraniWanua

3 жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation love your style of drawing, please make video about kalevala in future

@Anttimation

3 жыл бұрын

@@WaraniWanua thanks so much! I have a video of it planned for the future!

@WaraniWanua

3 жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation wow cool! Hardly wait to watch that

Very nicely done, I’ve lived in Finland for two years but I never had the chance to check out Finnish mythology. Keep up with your good work, I really want to hear more about these stories :’) P.s: just downloaded Kalevala to read :’)

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

Oo nice! Where did you live? Thanks for watching :)

@lanadang7546

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation I’ve lived mostly in Oulu, travelled to Turku, Lapland, and of course Helsinki (hopefully I can move there for good this year)👌

Ilmarinen is probably an avatar of Ukko. Both are divine smiths. Ilmarinen is even credited as the forger of sky.

Favourite channel for some time. Thank you for the content!

@Anttimation

3 жыл бұрын

That is so great to hear. Thanks for watching again!

....and subscribed! awesome and very funnny, especially the moonmintroll reference.

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Finns love moomins, they are magnificent creatures.

I appreciate the ending words the most. 👍👌

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

Haha thank you!

Awesome illustration, and a fuck ton of information 🤯👍

@Anttimation

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked these latest skin care routine tips!

So good - it's entertaining, informative and wow to your paintings, I am flashed again!

@Anttimation

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you once again :)

I loved this, thank you for making it

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

That's very good to hear. Thanks for watching!

lt would be great to have more clips on Finnish, and other, mythologies. lt is such a refreshing change from the restrictions and sectarian hatred of the monotheistic religions. Suomen vanha uskonto on hyvin mielenkiintoinen!

@Anttimation

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Dave! It is very interesting indeed!

Call it coincidence or a happy accident, but I did a video on the Finnish creation story earlier this month. Mine focused more on the Kalevala's narrative though because I'm an uneducated American. This was actually a really nice video, possibly the second best thing to ever come out of Finland. (Sorry, but the mad-lad popping shots into commies without a scope takes #1 for me...) Keep up the excellent work man.

@Anttimation

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'll make sure to check it out. The more videos about these topics, the better.

Iv shared this with my whole family ! Love your talent

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

That's awesome, thank you!

Eu sou do Brasil. Aqui não há qualquer publicação em português sobre mitologia filandesa. Estou muito grato por esses vídeos!

@Anttimation

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! If I understood correctly from a Google translation.

History intertwining within mythology, that sounds close to home.

Such a good video, beautiful art.

@Anttimation

Жыл бұрын

Many thanks!

This is really good! I love Kalevala! ⭐️

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for checking this out!

Ah, vaka wanha Spurdo. Peak of finnish pagan pantheon. Only god who Jesus was too afraid to diss.

@Anttimation

3 жыл бұрын

He saved countless souls from Jesus.

@aithne1457

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation oooohhhhhhh 😝

Hey, I recognise the words from the "Oral Tradition" lady-- I heard them in a song by Rajaton. Nouse Lauluni? Anyway, I just discovered your channel, it's very cool.

@Anttimation

Жыл бұрын

It's the first verse of Kalevala and quite commonly used! Wouldn't surprise me if also in a song. Thanks for watching!

Thanks for this… I’ve been a long time

@Anttimation

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome 🙌

Awesome, subscribing

@Anttimation

7 ай бұрын

Awesome! Glad to have you on board

2:44 moomintroll!

Nice presentation, I especially love the digital brush you used to draw this things, it makes me inspired. What kind of brush is this?

@Anttimation

9 ай бұрын

Thanks! This is actually a drawing on paper animated in After Effects :D

@riccardolabelva1881

9 ай бұрын

Oh that's why I can see the ink saturating the paper so realistically :) Good job.

This is exactly the kind of videos that I, an atheist Israeli, want to watch at 4am

@Anttimation

8 ай бұрын

Haha great, thank you

Toi valmis kuva lopussa pitäis saada printtinä seinälle. Mä oon niin rakastunu näihin sun videoihin. Tuntuu kuin vihdoinkin joku tekee mun oikeesti lempiaiheista piirettyjä ja kertoo ne selkeesti ja oikealla tapaa ❤ plus. Iso kiitos siitä että sulta saa oikeesti läskeilleki sopivia vaatteita. Paita on täydellinen ja seuraavasta liksasta pitää tilaa taas jotain

@Anttimation

3 жыл бұрын

Huikeeta, kiitos! Joo, katselen mistä saisi laadukkaita printtejä, mielellään lähtemättä merta edemmäs kalaan.

@Vulcaani

3 жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation kuulostaa hyvältä! Tykkäsin myös lujasti noista sinun jumalkuvista. Voitko harkita että tekisit erikseen jokaisesta oman, ikään kuin teemaan sopivan? Tursaan, Tapion ja Äkrään kuvat olisi hauska nähd😅

@Anttimation

3 жыл бұрын

@@Vulcaani voisinpa hyvinkin harkita. Kiitos ideasta! :)

@oddis188

3 жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation ja vois olla siistiä jos pystyis tekee enemmän in depth videon noista jumalista. Uskon että vois kiinnostaa muitakin ku mua ja Hallaa

@Anttimation

3 жыл бұрын

@@oddis188 Ilman muuta. Voisi hyvinkin olla seuraavien videoiden aiheita.

Congrats on over 10 000 views!

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

It's over 10 000?! Thanks, that's awesome 🙌

@js1423

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation Let's that the channel grows even more!

Kaikki on uskon arvoinen jos sinun henki nojaa sen suuntaan. Mainio tiivistettu video! Jatka sinun hyvää työtä!

Nice one!

@Anttimation

9 ай бұрын

Thanks!

This really does remind me of the Norse. I imagine there was alot of mixing back and forth. I wouldn't be surprised if the Finnish heavily influenced the spiritual practices of the Norse.

@Anttimation

7 ай бұрын

All Northern beliefs certainly have a similar vibe! I don't know how much the influence of Finnic myths on the Norse has been studied as I've only read the Finnish perspective 🤔

Interesting I am part Finnish but my grandfather grew up in Norway ,so I know more about them.

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Yeah, Norse mythology is much better known in general. Thanks to franchises like Marvel - but not sure if they actually deserve thanks for their depiction. At least it has probably lead people to read about the actual Norse mythology.

Kiitos!

I swear you need more attention!

@Anttimation

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Do consider Ior Bock and his revelatory ancient oral history, the bock Saga? The original Paradise of Odinma and the Root Alphabet and the letters that represent the mouth sounds, that is the basis of every known language.

@Anttimation

6 ай бұрын

I do not consider it, other than as a work of fiction

Kiitti! Nää on niin hyviä! Koskakohan tulis piispan pytyn poiston tapaista juttuja lisää, eli "ILTAPASKAA" lehden tapaisia juttuja.. Niist olisin valmis maksaa vaik vittu 5 oravannahkaa :)

@Anttimation

3 жыл бұрын

5 oravannahkaa?! No sittenhän harkitsen vakavasti!

@mikorossi1959

3 жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation "?" Ok, seitsemän. Hienosti tingitty.

@mikorossi1959

3 жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation sori vielä. Jos et ole kuullut tätä, ni kandee. "TUULETAR - Ievan polkka (Loituma COVER)"

@Anttimation

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikorossi1959 Joo! Ja sitten löytyy yksi, en muista nimeä, mutta kaksi soittajaa, toisella haitari ja toisella joku banjo tms. ja tempo kiihtyy loppua kohti infernaaliseksi.

@mikorossi1959

3 жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation kiitti. täytyypi kahtoo, sano stadilainen. "pakko" lisätä :oon oikeasti ja monessa polvessa stadilainen, mut aina jotenkin tykännyt eri murteista. varsinkin jos murre sanoihin liittyy jotain mun maun mukaista huumoria.Ja must stadilaset ovat aina olleet vähän liian diivaa väkeä. oon vissiin kait aika poikkeus,kun tykkään myös esim. savolaisesta huumorista enemmän. Ps. ei ole tarkoitus viedä sun aikaas, joten älä turhia vastaa tähän. kuhan kirjoitin aikani kuluks!

A thing that makes me kind of sad is how the Finnish Neopagan movement is so small for such a beautiful culture.

@Anttimation

4 ай бұрын

It is surprisingly small, yeah

Kiitos paljon for your most educational video which are of special interest to all of us eclectic pagans💜🙏🙏🙏👏👏

@Anttimation

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Hope to see you back with future videos 😊

@joalexsg9741

Жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation You're most welcome and I certainly will! I've shared it on Twitter, Mewe and on my Pinterest

@Anttimation

Жыл бұрын

@@joalexsg9741 Great to hear, thank you!

Awesome video... Is there another popular book like the Kalevala that is closer to actual poems and myths? Possibly one that was translated to french or english?

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

Hmm, not that I know of... Some scholars might be able to suggest something, I'm pretty sure. I was thinking about this for a while today before replying but got nothing.

@tattooattack2320

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation That's alright thank you any ways !

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

@@tattooattack2320 thank you for watching! I'll keep this in the back of my head in case I come across something.

Very Very Very Nice Video :))))

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

Very very nice comment - I appreciate it

@lorddraco1359

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation You're Welcome ;)

On the website what is the music titled under? I love music like this.

@Anttimation

Жыл бұрын

Do you mean the intro/outro track? It was composed by Eric Matyas of soundimage.org as a commission, I don't think it's on the site

@nordicsonofeurope5078

Жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation Oh okay, that was what I was talking about, but thanks anyway.

Now i understand why Tolkien fell in love with the Finnish mythology.

@Anttimation

Жыл бұрын

Yeah! I also have a video on what elements of Finnish mythology influenced his work: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y4x-p8-dksrKZ6Q.html

💜💜💜

Gondola is now canon in the Finnish mythology.

VAU! Sika kiva

@Anttimation

Ай бұрын

Kiitos!

Hyvä video

@Anttimation

3 жыл бұрын

Kiitos!

Are the Uralic deities gods or spirits. My guess is that these were animistic spirits that became more god like with Indo European influences. In India, a lot of the Hindu gods were spirits that became more like a classic deity.

@Anttimation

Жыл бұрын

Some, like Ukko, are definitely gods by definition. But whether that was always the case, I don't know. Tapio (forest) and Ahti (sea) are more ambiguous and are referred to as spirits as well.

Was "storm" originally called "perkeleenilma"?

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

Not that I know of - but I have no doubt it gets called that these days

@oontaa7765

2 жыл бұрын

Thunderstorms are sometimes called Ukonilma even today

Isn"t Tursas the same as Ikutorso?

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, same dude. However, there are a few mentions - although not necessarily that reliable - of Tursas as a war god.

So Iku-Turso and Tursas aren't the same thing?

@Anttimation

Жыл бұрын

They are. But it could be a creature woven together from different tales/myths, some of which may have involved Tursas as a deity - although those are more scarce. Nowadays, definitely the same thing.

Where did you get the information that Ilmarinen was the god of wind and travel? Everything I've ever found paints him as an inventor/artificer, being able to craft anything. Also Vainamoinen was a hero/sage, not a god.

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

That's the Ilmarinen character of Kalevala, which confuses things. The blacksmith business is of much newer origin. Ilmarinen could also have been another name for Ukko as they have similar roles. The brief mention of Ilmarinen in the video is based on Suomalainen mytologia by Martti Haavio (1967), where he explores the god.

@skinnymarauder333

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation Oooh, okay. How do I research into it if the Kalevala is muddled?

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

Oh man, that's the thing with Kalevala, while it has sparked more interest in Finnish mythology than anything (maybe), it's a 19th century compilation with heavy editing, kind of a mythology of its own. Are you English speaking? There's unfortunately not so much information available in English that I know of, at least. About time someone wrote a comprehensive book in English!

@skinnymarauder333

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation I am English speaking but more than willing to learn Finnish. I was choosing between Íslenska and Finnish to learn. Finnish and Estonian mythology is so much richer in my opinion so I would love any books or sources you could recommend

Ukko and Perkele are separate entities?

@Anttimation

3 жыл бұрын

More sources of Ukko are known to date, so we know a lot more about him. Ukko survived longer, and is still celebrated to some extend today (vakka). They operate in the same field for sure. Ukko likely comes with great Baltic influence and is to some extend based on their Perkūnas, where the name Perkele probably comes from.

@js1423

3 жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation Doesn't he carry a hammer/axe like Perkunas, Perun and Thor?

@Anttimation

3 жыл бұрын

@@js1423 Yes! The shape is distinct, you can see it framing his name in the video.

Moomins!!!!!!

1:51 😂🤣😅😎

Perkele, Piru and Ukko are the same thing. Perkele name only appears a few times too in ancient runos, and in more modern runos with often other Christian characters. I think it was Christian missionaries and priests that introduced the names Perkele and Piru in Finland, because Christianity came from Novgorod to Finland, and these priests knew pagan Russian god Perun and Balts' Percunis and Perkons. They realized Ukko was the same god, and demonized Ukko, In Finnish speakers' mouth the names Perun became Piru, Percunis and Perkons became Perkele. Another possibilty is that Perkele/Piru were sacred hidden names, and they weren't used in runos: instead Ukko was used. But I think this is less likely than the first explanation. Perkele and Piru have a very Christian connection. You can check Perkele in Wikipedia, he is connected to the same indoeuropean Perkwunos god, that all these European thunder and sky gods are versions of, a smith god who wields hammer and axe and casts lightning and whose holy tree is oak (because oak and lightning have a connected word root). That is also the description of Ukko.

@Anttimation

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the input!

@herrakaarme

2 жыл бұрын

Why do you say Ukko was demonised? There's no trace of such demonisation to be seen, whereas most Finns don't even know Perkele was once something else than what he now is, after the Christian missionaries were done with him. It would seem more logical that Perkele/Piru already were entities known in Finland in some form, but due to what had been done to them already in the South (Baltic region), they were turned into the devil also here. However, who can say what happened with Ukko? It would be easy to say the church tried to trivialise him or maybe make him the Christian God's alias, but in the latter case, it wouldn't have lasted, probably on purpose. Trivialisation most definitely did happen, seeing how "ukko" now means nothing but an old man. If Ukko was demonised, it would now be an offensive word. Calling someone "ukko" will only count as an insult if the target is looking for a reason to be insulted. Little demonisation there. But try to say someone is perkele or piru himself. You'd definitely find trouble.

@jakkeledin4645

2 жыл бұрын

Karelia Perkei= bad spirit

@Aurinkohirvi

2 жыл бұрын

@@herrakaarme Ukko is not the name of god, same as "God" (jumala in Finnish) is not the actual name of a god. It means "old man". How do you demonize it? Finns generally did not use the actual name of the god. Perun, Percunis and Perkons are millenias old names, the name comes from Bronze Age. Why do they appear only in Christian era runos (edit: in their Finnish form Piru/Perkele)? My guess is because they were used by Christian priests/monks.

@Aurinkohirvi

2 жыл бұрын

@@herrakaarme Maybe Piru and Perkele in runos appear in Christian era, because using the name of god was no more a tabu. But definately Church took the names Piru and Perkele, adobted them, and hence they mean devil today in Finland. There are suggestions what was the actual name of Ukko. Ilmarinen (which also appears as the name of smith Ilmarinen, who in fact was the avatar of the smith god Ukko) is one suggested.

tää on aika kova

@Anttimation

Жыл бұрын

Kiitos!

Finnish mythology: Npc: Bear Npc 2: said the b word, a bear is gonna hunt him down!!

@Anttimation

Жыл бұрын

More or less.

@Finlanist

Жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation wdym by more or less?

@Anttimation

Жыл бұрын

@@Finlanist Finnish folklore in a nutshell 😄

@Finlanist

Жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation fr

Bears beer iron & blood.

Why do Fins love Gondola so much?

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

A national hero, or close to one

Why is it that whenever I tried to learn about Scandinavian mythology from a Scandinavian they always take a piss at the government

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣 Maybe because their problems are relatively small? Haha. But I must point out that Finland is not Scandinavian.

Im from finland

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

High five?

@maggot42069

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation ai ootko suomalainen? Huomasin just sun nimen ja oot näköjää suomalainen. Ihmettelinki miten puhuit Suomeen hyvin lol

Tursas/Turisas or Iki-Turso/Iku-Turso wasn't a war god. I've searched the ancient Finnish runos database and the names only appear a handful times and either as a sea monster or a name of a person. If it really was a god, there would be hundreds of times, there would be prayers and spells. Kristfried Ganander who in Mythologica Fennica claimed he/it was a god, cllected runos himself, and in one of his collected runo the name appears... as a sea monster, with nothing to hint it would be god.

@Anttimation

3 жыл бұрын

Could do more reading on this and then calrify in a future video - thinking to do a series of the individual deities.

@Aurinkohirvi

3 жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation Suomen kansan vanhat runot on nyt etsittävänä tietokantana Internetissä. Sieltä kannattaa tehdä hakusanaetsintöjä.

@Anttimation

3 жыл бұрын

@@Aurinkohirvi Jees.

3:03 please. please say sike right now.

@Anttimation

6 ай бұрын

I've no clue what that means, so not very likely I'd say it :D

@shinypooka

6 ай бұрын

@@Anttimation sike (probably from the word "psych"), is slang in the US, you say it when you wanna take something you previously said back. sometimes it's used when you've said something nice to someone, but wanna take it back just to be rude and make fun of them, but it's almost never really used seriously. sorry for the confusion 😅

Muumipeikko on kyl kova😂

@Anttimation

Жыл бұрын

Mutta mitä eroa on Muumipeikolla ja meemipuikolla?

You forgot Maliki goddess of the forest and hunt❤

@Anttimation

3 ай бұрын

You mean Mielikki? I mean to do an updated version of the "panthenon" at some point soon.

@KarenLee-bs5ms

3 ай бұрын

@@Anttimation thanks my spell check doesn't work right..I've been drawn to it for years..I've been camping since the age of ten and I've been homeless more times than I can count..is there any way you could cover wild food that can be used..

@Anttimation

3 ай бұрын

@@KarenLee-bs5ms I don't know enough so my take would be closer to dangerous than useful 😅

Lopussa piti ottaa kuva.

@Anttimation

Жыл бұрын

Mitä meinaat?

@rez-.-

Жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation Helvetin pähee kuva!

@Anttimation

Жыл бұрын

@@rez-.- Aa! No kiitos.

@rez-.-

Жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation 👍

suomenuskoism

Noita be like:

Shit elf is the best.

I think the war in 1939..

@Anttimation

8 ай бұрын

You think.. what?

Wonder how many noita players have come here

@Anttimation

Ай бұрын

Have seen quite a few in the comments tbh! 😄

However, the Perkele is not a Finnish god. This was a modern theory originally made by some anonymous amateur historian at some online forum. And this amateur historian put forward that Ukko was originally Perkele because Finns use the word Perkele often and a lot. But no one actual scholar has supported this theory and it has since been called pseudoscience. The Perkele doesn't appear in the tradition, folklore and written sources as a god but as a troll-like or demon-like mischievous creature and is synonymous with Piru. And this is also the case in all Balto-Finnic languages. Mainly they are either evil creatures or some wicked place. According to Ulla-Maija Forsberg, professor of Fenno-Ugric studies, these related words that corresponding to the Finnish word Perkele are, for example, the Estonian Põrgu (hell), Votic Põrku (death), and the Karelian Perkeleh (evil spirit).

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting, I have to read more about it. Have come across the Perkunas connection so many times.

@danielmalinen6337

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation It can sometimes be encountered, especially if you surf the internet. This theory first appeared on the old Sinikivi online forum about 10 or 12 years ago. After that, the theory became popular, but as I said, no one actual scholar support it. They have more information and are more knowledgeable about these topics than anonymous forum users. And that is why we also should read academic papers and books.

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielmalinen6337 do you have any in your mind to recommend? Might even be cool to do a Perkele video with sources.

@danielmalinen6337

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anttimation For example, Unto Salo, Anna-Leena Siikala and Martti Haavio. They have published many good books and articles about Finnic mythology.

Hello not all of those are finnish mythology.

@Anttimation

2 жыл бұрын

For example?