The Mariner 4 has 3 layers of PVC and is constructed more like a modern inflatable Dinghy, whereas the Excursion is a raft. The PVC is very durable on both, they're not easy to puncture as long as you don't over-inflate them. The Mariner is without question more rigid and better quality, but it's also twice the price and almost double the weight at 91 lbs without anything added. If you're looking for true portability, something that can be easily transported, stowed in a trunk or pickup truck, then set up quickly for a solo fishing trip, the Excursion is the better option simply because it's lighter weight, and can be managed by 1 adult. If your intention is a portable raft for solo fishing trips, I'd recommend the Excursion 4...it's still large at 10 ft, has plenty of room for at least 2 adults, and is even more portable than the Excursion 5. IMO it's also tougher because of its shorter length...it's more stable and solid on the water, especially if you custom-cut a 1/2" plywood floor for it. I'd take the Excursion 4 over the 5 any day of the week for 1 or 2-man fishing trips. The $20 price difference might motivate more people to purchase the Excursion 5 (vs. the smaller 4) since it's quite a bit larger, but don't overlook the Excursion 4 as a viable fishing rig that is easier to stow away, set up, and take down especially for solo fishing trips. The Mariner 4, in my opinion, is heavy enough to warrant a trailer, and most won't want to deal with set up and take-down of a 91-lb inflatable. It's more back-breaking to load a nearly 100 lb raft into the back of a pickup truck. The Mariner 4 weighs more than the more expensive, higher-quality Saturn 9-11 ft dinghy boats (those weigh in at 70-75 lbs). The less expensive Saturn dingy boats are still made with high-quality German Heytex Denier 1100 reinforced PVC, which is what the more expensive inflatables (costing $1000 or more) use.

@Sonickart

11 ай бұрын

thank u now i don't have to watch the video

@max_rove

7 ай бұрын

@@Sonickart Yes, don't overwork your few brain cells

@markweatherall7437

3 ай бұрын

Do you know how much the Mariner 4 weighs on its own without the slatted floor?

@ChrisG9978

3 ай бұрын

@@markweatherall7437 Best guess would be 70 lbs or so without the slatted floor and inflatable benches.

@markweatherall7437

3 ай бұрын

@@ChrisG9978 ok thanks, after analyzing your comparison video of the 2 they are both very similar size in length on the inside the boats. The IE5 is obviously wider inside, is that correct?

Quarantine has me wanting to get more adventurous once this is over, thanks for the comparison

@sdriza

Жыл бұрын

so Panda? 2 years later - what adventures have you had,

my wife was controlling our Excursion 5 and she went too shallow and we were rubbing and scratching a lot of rock, but the bottom of our iintex never deflated or had marks on it.

Thanks for the comp.I bought a 4..because of quality,totally agree they should of simply made the 5 the same as the 4,I am sure that it was all about the cost.

Yeeeeesss I was hoping for an Excursion vs Mariner video but I was doubting the odds of it happening. Thaaaank you!!!

@JiggyC

4 жыл бұрын

Haha you're welcome!

Appreciate the review, helps the decision process! Going with the Mariner 4!

I was surprised someone uploaded this comparison. I'm hoping to get the excursion 5 but it's all out of stock so I ended up with mariner 4 the latest version and your video make sense of what I've purchased. Thanks!

@medb227

4 жыл бұрын

You are right, the excursion 5 is out of stock. Where did you buy your mariner 4 and how much? Thanks for your help.

@SOLEM8YT23

4 жыл бұрын

@@medb227 at Bass pro shop Calgary. Cabellas has them too lots of stock! We've just used it today and it's awesome!

@medb227

4 жыл бұрын

SOLEM8YT23 Thank you kindly for your response, to bad they are out of stock here at pro bass shop in the US. Enjoy your new boat.

I have used Excursion 5 for 2 summers now. Have used it purely for family joy rides in safe bays and sailing along the mountains on Hollidays. I see that mariner 5 is better built but much less space and near enough double price, therefore i believe Excursion 5 is a winner for joy rides at least. Light weighted as well. I have carried it on my shoulder 2 miles up the hill with electric motor and ores from very wild cove, where there was no way for a car to come near it. The only issue excursion 5 has is with built in hooks which are there to hold inflatable chairs in place. Do not use hooks , or they will tear causing air leaks. Also inflatable floor imho good as heaven. That extra wooden planks floor for mariner 4 just takes more space in the boot and makes you carry extra stuff

@jairomaestreacosta1152

3 ай бұрын

OMG thanks, im looking to buy one of these boats, your comment helped me so much, thanks

Great review and comparison thanks. Considering for a tender, for occasional use.

@JiggyC

5 жыл бұрын

Which one did u go with?

I have both mariner 3 and mariner 4 . I use them both for catfishing and they taken abuse but always stayed a float but if i had excursion id only use that for just fun on the lake with friends

Major difference is that mairner 4 has an extremely tough guard all around the perimeter, protecting the boat against the rocks and the rigid floor allows anglers to cast their fishing rods with much more stability compared to soft inflatable floor of excursion. Also customisation for mariner 4 is unlimited, starting by replacing the floor by one, or two, or three plywood floor covered with carpet and then allow to install an outboard with more power and speed of course.

@Ellros

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Which is why I went with the Mariner. It's made of a much tougher material than the Excursion. The Intex Seahawk 2 used to be made of the same material years ago, but is now made from the material used in the Excursion :(

@trojan7933

2 жыл бұрын

Why do people add plywood to the floor?

@dkoriss1

2 жыл бұрын

@@trojan7933 because use the floor becomes vary rigid and stable with the plywood, if you don’t, it is not very stable, which is quite necessary if you fishing on it.

@markweatherall7437

Жыл бұрын

No mistake the M4 is a much better boat than the E5 but I made a plywood floor for my E5 and the stability difference is incredibly better that I can now stand up in it. I love the room in my E5 especially the internal floor space width. I didn't buy the E5 for speed/gas engine, I just have a trolling motor for it for calm rivers and lakes. If they made a M5 that was internally bigger than I'd certainly upgrade.

@planetdee3587

Ай бұрын

​@@markweatherall7437 I did this same thing years ago with mine. Makes a huge difference. It may not be as durable but it is the largest.

Nice review. Thanks! They need a combination of both boats.

@JiggyC

4 жыл бұрын

Would be nice!

@morfeo142007

3 жыл бұрын

Smart coment Adrew! Maybe that is the plan, I think the greats Marine 1, 2.. and the alike Seahawk II (only the hard french model) are not avaible any more in the market, maybe pushing custumers to buy Excursions 5

I bought the excursion 5 because I wanted more space. It may look cheap but it doesn’t feel cheap at all.

@idrisboulahia1875

18 күн бұрын

Ils it Good after using

I just got the 4 to be a temporary dinghy on our cruiser. I almost got the 5 but with 2 big dogs, the floor on the 4 was more appealing. After seeing this video of them side by side, I’m glad I went with the 4. The 5 looks very cheap in comparison.

@JiggyC

5 жыл бұрын

You can definitely see the difference in quality.

great review!!

@JiggyC

6 жыл бұрын

Midwest 651612 thanks

Really good review! I'm gonna buy the mariner 4 and get the dogs on it. 😂

I got the Mariner 3 and ya the material on the Mariner series is way better then excursion series. And the floors a genius. The 3 only had 2 valves and 1 for the keel. What I like the most work the Mariner series is the manouverability you can basically do a 360 in the water with the paddles

Really good info thanks bro love u

@JiggyC

5 жыл бұрын

Uhhh.. love u too!? Lol

Great video

Very helpful. How long does a battery last. I'm just getting into this and making some decisions. I am a wild life photographer and videographer. I think the Mariner seems like it would be more solid on the water. Is that so? I need to hold the camera as steady as still as possible. How many hours and you go on a car sized battery. I need to go a long way. I am going to document a 20 mile screech of the Delaware River. Thanks for this video. I'm certain now.

I just got the mariner 4 and glad I did. It’s just my dog and I. Perfect size. Heavy though.

@crazypunk2F

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's heavy. I unfortunately might get the Mariner 3 instead.

@RVingTheCountry

4 жыл бұрын

Dunkelheit I’m putting in a seat and floor. We our on a lake during this whole quarantine.

@JiggyC

4 жыл бұрын

Yes it's very heavy with the slats floors. Wish they would make airfloors for them.

Oh man, I was so about to buy an E5, but seems more like a toy next to the M4. My plan is making the wood flor, and build a mount from the floor to hold the motor, so I can put like a 5 or 6hp motor. Would you say size is an important factor in between this 2? I would most likely have 2 ppl in it, but the size of the E5 seems nice to carry more stuff.

help alot

M4 is definitely a one man boat. I wouldn't be in that boat with another person unless I'm really comfortable being close to them. E5 for comfort.

@JiggyC

4 жыл бұрын

It can fit 2 with fishing gear. It's a little tight but its comfortable granted the other adult I was with was child size though. Lol I'm 6 foot 210 lbs. Other was 5'6 probably 140 lbs.

El bote inflable Intex Excursión es fantástico, tengo uno con un motor 3.5 hp navegando es cómodo y seguro, el mariner es pequeño y estrecho

Thanks for the video. A few questions: (i) assuming you put in a wood floor, how powerful of an engine can each of the boats handle; (ii) is one faster than the other?

@maximolotov

2 жыл бұрын

Electric motors max speed 5mph You can put petrol motor with diy motor holder and then go 3 times faster. P.s. No need in wooden floor unless you just in love with wooden floors :)

@frugalfun4817

2 жыл бұрын

@@maximolotov Do you mean you don't need the wood floor?

@maximolotov

2 жыл бұрын

@@frugalfun4817 aye no need in it

Helpful review! I'm seeing a used Mariner 3 for sale cheap--any idea if it's nearly as good as the Mariner 4?

@JiggyC

6 жыл бұрын

Colin Mcnamara yes it is the same material but just smaller. I did a comparison video between the m3 and m4 last year. Look in my videos list.

Definitely would get the mariner 4

Can you tow these with a boat or ski if you don't have people in them? Maybe just like 40/50lbs of gear tied down? If so what speeds? Where do you tie off to tow them the front grab handle, or multiple points?

@ChrisG9978

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't tow by any of the handles or the plastic rings designed for threading the grab rope...too much risk of tearing the handle off and damaging the vinyl, which would deflate the boat quickly. The Excursion and Mariner are too large to tow, they'd probably create too much drag on the water to safely tow from a typical boat w/outboard motor. You'd be best off stowing either of these boats deflated on the main boat, then inflating them and dropping them in the water, then rowing or cruising to shore like a Dinghy.

Do u put a motor on the mariner four? I have an excursion four but just wondering

@JiggyC

6 жыл бұрын

Kyle Morris yes I have both electric and gas motor.

What kind of anchor do you use for the Excursion 5?

@JiggyC

6 жыл бұрын

A 10lb mushroom anchor should be good.

If only they come up with Mariner 5 for 5 people

I want to buy a boat like this to go fishing off the shore of the beach when it's not rough. How quick is this to set up and do you think it's a good idea ?

@lilflip9611

4 жыл бұрын

Yes

Подскажите пожалуйста какой из них лучше ?

I want to know who is more efficient at sea in waves

I’ve never been in either of these but the construction of the Mariner looks more solid, the bumper rail, the floor looks like it would take more abuse. The excursion just has that look of a kids toy rubber raft. Like I said though never had one, never fished from one never, never been in one. I look back at the 16’ aluminum I used to have and you can’t equate that to these.

I live in Rome in Italy and I should take a rubber boat to go to the sea which you advise me thanks?

@JiggyC

4 жыл бұрын

Always practice safe boating.as long as it's not rough seas you'll be ok. Just dont go to far from shore.

I had excursion 5. It's roomy but too soft. And always losing air. Hard to handle around cuz it's so wobbly.

From the looks alone, you can tell Excursion 5 is weaker judging by that middle seam.

I hope in the near distant future that they make a new inflatable sailboat roughly the same size as the Mariner 5

Is it worth upgrading to a Mariner 4 if I already own an Excursion 5?

@JiggyC

6 жыл бұрын

Lalie Vang I certainly believe so. The material is much better just as long as your ok with less space.

Art by the fire because it's bigger that's what I would want but it looks like it's cheap especially the outside of it

I’m guessing you go to Lake Erie? Do these need registration?

@JiggyC

4 жыл бұрын

Check your state laws. Typically once you put any type of motor on it then you have to.

You have many Intex boats.. I checked the fabric on both boats.. Mariner 4 is made of 0.7mm PVC. ( that's thin for a boat). Excursion 5 is made of some kind of vinyl fabric. That is not a boat material. It is mostly for airbeds and stuff like that.. These are not made to last. But they sure have an impressive size.

@JiggyC

6 жыл бұрын

Jack Fisher nope they are not made to last but you're not going to find a brand new inflatable boat at the prices they are selling for that will last a long time.

Presence of the fabric layer with two PVC layers is essential for the good quality boat. That's why Mariner boats are perfect, as their prices are not as high as other good boats, but they still have the fabric layer in their walls. PVC wall without of fabric easily breaks with no reasons and cannot be recommended.

Fontana or Ontario?

I’m going to but one and we are like 3 only so both have the good space and in kuwait only sea no lakes so what is the best choice m4 or e5 last choice ?

@ysoofalhammadi7941

6 жыл бұрын

Buy*^%*

@JiggyC

6 жыл бұрын

M4 will be cramped with 3 people and fishing gear. E5 would be roomier but as mentioned the M4 is built better.

I'm seeking inflatable boat for bay and lake fishing with 2 70lb dogs aboard. almost wondering if i should get 2 mariners, one for me and my gear and one for the dogs and their gear. probably gonna lay outdoor carpet in bottom part of it doubled down so when dogs get in and out I can have extra piece to lay over side so the dogs don't pop it. seems like every inflatable boat under 400 is bout same size, cost for not much bigger is 800+ so I refer back to the 2 mariner idea. sure wish they would come out with a mariner 5 bigger than 4 and 4 rod holders and maybe even better swivel oar holders. got buddy been into inflatables for years, has many, says quality is same till ya get over $4k then is much much better. he has some cheap Walmart one he offered me but I declined, he usually takes out a zodiac unless he is in ocean then he has one of those hard bottom $20k jobs that's amazing with huge hp, don't recall size but definitely over 100hp, took me out on it and we were flying. raced a powerboat and made them eat spray baby

@JiggyC

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah wish they made a bigger mariner boat. The 2 mariner boas would be a good idea since you have 2 70lb dogs. I would maybe go with 1 first to try it out and if you dont have toon then go for a 2nd one. Good luck!

Never-say-never we're always developing new things in the new distant future something like that could change

How durable is the excursion 5, have u had any punches?

@shadovs1

3 жыл бұрын

Not durable at all in my case

@ryanbarton6739

3 жыл бұрын

@@shadovs1 iv had issues too and iv I haven't had it a year yet

@ryanbarton6739

3 жыл бұрын

@@shadovs1 3 valve issues and chamber 1 and 2 are now one. Somehow while packing away and setting up the chambers became one

@ryanbarton6739

3 жыл бұрын

@@shadovs1 I paid 750$ Canadian

@ryanbarton6739

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry mariner 4

Can I buy seats with a back for the mariner 4 ?

@JiggyC

6 жыл бұрын

Yes u can

@cruzzarek8103

5 жыл бұрын

Can u put a link please

But does the excursions multi tube setup dwarf the mariner kn terms of safety. Does the Mariner have the multi tube setup?

@JiggyC

5 жыл бұрын

Yes it has 5 different sections you have to blow up. I had a situation where I got a hole on one side but was still able to float with the 3 other tubes and the keel is considered the 5th.

I am having such a hard time deciding between these two boats. As someone who owns both, which one do you use more often and why?

@JiggyC

3 жыл бұрын

After I got the M4 I stuck with that since I was able to use my suzuki 2.5 on the stock mount. Just better construction all around.

@WOWkittens9

2 жыл бұрын

Very easy choice E5 is toy M3 and 4 is made of material so much stronger, also mariner can carry outboard engine, i would never try an engine on E5. So for fun beach use sure E5, for fishing and longer runs no question M series.

@frugalfun4817

2 жыл бұрын

@@WOWkittens9 Thanks for the info.

@arteybushcraft

2 жыл бұрын

@@WOWkittens9 el Intex Excursion es fantástico, le puse un motor de 3.5 hp es apto para pesca

@thewatcher9323

2 жыл бұрын

No contest M4 wins all day long. The E4 is a good boat but I use it for pulling my stuff behind me

which one's better in your opinion

@JiggyC

6 жыл бұрын

charles conner mariner 4 definitely is better IMO.. E5 has more room and is a little bigger but the m4 material is much much better..

@charlesconner6578

6 жыл бұрын

Ok thanks

@JiggyC

6 жыл бұрын

charles conner so which did u get or planning on getting?

اكثر من رائع انا قمت بشراء المنتج ولكن من اين الحصول على المحرك هذا ؟ وايضا منفاخ الهواء هذا ؟

@TubeDupe

2 жыл бұрын

دوه ، أمازون.

How did u get the hole in the Mariner?

@JiggyC

6 жыл бұрын

umpy315 we were at a put in doing a regular floot. Bringing the boat down, son accidentally dropped his end whole trying to bring the boat down. Landed on a sharp rock but we still floated even with just 3 chambers. You can see the rip here. kzread.info/dash/bejne/q2qWuLiJe9m3htY.html

How about using in the sea with 2 people? thinking about passing through the beach and staying where is calm

@younged510

4 жыл бұрын

I used mariner 4 along the sea shores. Yeah it's great when water is calm..

@vitornieri5700

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I think I'll get Mariner 4

@younged510

4 жыл бұрын

@@vitornieri5700 I was actually challenged by my father in law to go further. I just got the trolling motor, while attaching the motor mount and airing the boat there were a couple and their son watching us and were amuse. We went so far they turn into ant size still watching us. If your gonna buy a trolling motor get 55lbs thrust new vessel along with 12v 50-55 anp battery with the intex motor mount and always used level 3. You'll be good to go for a long time out there..

@vitornieri5700

4 жыл бұрын

@@younged510 Nice! My idea is to pass the shore and stay fishing just after the waves. First I'll get the boat and then off it works nicely the motor

@younged510

4 жыл бұрын

@@vitornieri5700 works real well, just don't constantly use full power, (level 5).. It will get you further faster, but it can also drain the battery faster.. I would use 3 to get you where you want to fish, but you will move because of small waves, just bought a 3.5 lbs anchor I will tell you how that goes, but when your done fishing use 3 and 5 to get you back faster. Unless you find a use gas motor which I have no clue of anything about that lol.. good luck,stay safe and always have a safety vest around you..

I'm confused which one to buy. My purpose is river rafting and there are ups and downs throughout the river. So can u help me out for choosing the right one?

@JiggyC

4 жыл бұрын

Ups and downs meaning lots of rapid? If so I wouldn't recommend either one.

@starwinjohnson475

4 жыл бұрын

@@JiggyC It's a flowing river so there might rapid movement of water. So which one should I prefer?

@JiggyC

4 жыл бұрын

@@starwinjohnson475 go with m4. It's better built and better suited for rivers IMO.

@starwinjohnson475

4 жыл бұрын

@@JiggyC Thank u

@starwinjohnson475

4 жыл бұрын

@@JiggyC What was the price when u bought that? And how did u buy

Ok thanks.. i go 4 mariner

Is the M4 a flat bottom like the E5?

@JiggyC

Жыл бұрын

No it has an inflatble keel that gives a v shape.

@markweatherall7437

3 ай бұрын

​@@JiggyCdo you know how long the inside of the M4 is please?Doesn't seem much in it in comparison to the E5 even the E5 is overall longer.

May I know about weight of marine 4 ??

@JiggyC

6 жыл бұрын

Gurung Smile with the stock floor it's about 100 lbs. Very heavy.

@gurungsmile6625

6 жыл бұрын

Jiggy's Outdoors tq buddy, it's mean about 45kg?

@AmmarAlQaraghuli

6 жыл бұрын

It's almost 35KG (77lb), and the floor is removable.

I know what you mean I would rather have a mariner 4 made into a v like the Ford made

Which one is better for the sea ?

@JiggyC

4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't recommend either for the seas.

@borjagonzalez9632

4 жыл бұрын

@@JiggyC Thank you. I mean, only for 100 or 200 metres in the beach maximum

شكرن للمنشور لدي طلبات من العراق ما يقارب 100شخص هل يتواجد في العراق وكيف السعر اتمنا ان لا يكلف ثمنه 150 دولارن

Modded intex excursion 5 with hard floor seats and trolling motor or mariner 4 with trolling motor

@JiggyC

5 жыл бұрын

Go with the 4

@cruzzarek8103

5 жыл бұрын

Oops I already bought the 5

@cruzzarek8103

4 жыл бұрын

We’re about to argue I know it I got it about a year and 2 months ago and with the hard floor it’s great I put a trolling motor and I go about a mile of shore and come back loaded with fish but you do have to wash it

@kcobra55

4 жыл бұрын

Zarek Cruz I’m in the process off buying a boat now don’t know get the 4 or the 5 and I will be fishing about mile or 2 off shore. What trolling motor you got and battery. ?And which state? Thank you

@cruzzarek8103

4 жыл бұрын

Khaled I bought a minn Kota trolling motor and a mighty max battery does just the trick I’m upgrading now to a John boat which Comes with a 55 hp Evinrude outboard and I live in Miami Florida

Mariner 4 seems really strong

@JiggyC

4 жыл бұрын

Stronger than the E5 at least

The Mariner 4 how many hp the engine , maximum take ?

@JiggyC

5 жыл бұрын

3hp

Mariner looks ugly as hell, it have no advantage over the excursion except slightly more durability. I've even had the $20 explorer raft being dragged and bumped rubbed against rough dock and it only had few punctures in the floor, the pontoons were intact. Punctures usually happen at bottom due to the boat being dragged and scratched, that can be prevented by adding a protective layer at the bottom. Infact some of the more expensive inflatable kayaks are made of the same cheap vinyl but are covered with a protective fabric that can be put on and off with zipper. Just buy a cheap air mattress($7-20) and use that to cover the excursion's bottom.

I decided on the Excursion 5. It has been updated to have 360 degree oarlocks like the Mariner 4. Here's the first in a series of my reviews. kzread.info/dash/bejne/eaBhla9-h7qraZc.html

I like Intex marine 4...but I don't have money for buy😪

@morfeo142007

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe you cannot currently buy the Mariner series, but for not much money like me (one dollar is 59 Dominican pesos) a good idea is to register on Amazon and apply for up to 12 months of financing without interest for some other inflatable in existence. when we really are water and outdoors lover we need to do something about!

Excursion is about 2ft longer than the Mainer 4

@JiggyC

6 жыл бұрын

JERA M4 is 129" long and E5 is 145" long. So not quite 2 feet.

@jera8258

6 жыл бұрын

M4- 10ft 3/4" - E5- 12ft so like i said about 2ft. And like you said not quite 2 ft. but it certainly isn't a couple inches. lol

@JiggyC

6 жыл бұрын

JERA I did correct myself after i said that and said a foot longer. My estimate was closer than 2 feet. ;)

@jera8258

6 жыл бұрын

i guess if we were playing the price is right lol. if you asked someone to pick how much bigger it is with the options of: A) 2" or B) 2ft.... not sure anyone looking at the 2 would say 2in ;) (being off 16" is more than being off by 8")

@jera8258

6 жыл бұрын

now you see ;)

I can add that the Mariner 4 has a load capacity around 800lbs. Can handle a 3hp motor (max recommended). Comes with ID# recognized by Coast Guard. I have not registered mine but told I could. Sorry I have nothing to say about the Excursion except if you believe that will work you might as well by a air mattress.

It's a bow. Pronounced like how Japanese people greet each other.

Too bad Intext doesn’t doa Mariner 6 … a 5 size built like the Mariner 4

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Which one is more durable?

@JiggyC

3 ай бұрын

Mariner 4