No wonder why Joma is always depressed, his brother is just too OP lmao

@Soulcybering

4 жыл бұрын

He has a KZread channel with more than 300.000 subscribers. Maybe he is not rich as the brother but surely is not for everyone 😉

@mrheckles6076

4 жыл бұрын

@@Soulcybering Who the fuck cares about subs on youtube lol

@cucicearoland5949

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrheckles6076 I would. I think I'd rather earn decent money and have a lot of people validating me than be very rich and unknown. Most of my childhood I was the guy who didn't make friends easily but was a tryhard, so that's why.

@Soulcybering

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrheckles6076 who the fuck cares about followers on Instagram. Oh Wait, there are people which work on that platform and are making profit like KZread

@auniquehandle

4 жыл бұрын

@@cucicearoland5949 i''d be super rich and unknown everyday than a social media influencer. Real money > fake fame

Joma gets less goofy and show-offy around his brilliant, serious brother.

@fiveyearold

4 жыл бұрын

His mother must be really proud of his older brother. Too bad @jomatech

@sonnyskold

4 жыл бұрын

@@fiveyearold Lmao

@diegomichel2248

4 жыл бұрын

@@fiveyearold Oh man you are Dick :O

@mrheckles6076

4 жыл бұрын

You forgot "SUCCESSFUL" as well!

@FreezySkillz

4 жыл бұрын

@@ITPCD bro what is wrong with you. What a horrible thing to say.

Chad programmer vs virgin youtuber

@brickstunram9391

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@vik8860

3 жыл бұрын

oww...Ouch!

@qqq1234x

3 жыл бұрын

LoooOoooL

@pajeetsingh

3 жыл бұрын

Joma obliterated by youtube comment. How can he even get over this?

@Ash-bc8vw

3 жыл бұрын

You guys are just jealous

Dad: hi son, how's life? are you success yet? did you hear that your brother just earn $60M?

@isaacjfung

3 жыл бұрын

The company was sold for 60 million and his brother wasn’t the founder. Early stage non founder employees definitely have less than 2-3% equity. EDIT: It seems some people are saying he was 1 of 5 founders. However, we need to remember that they raised a pre-seed/seed round for probably around 5-25% of their company. Still a lot of money, but just trying to make sure people understand startup equity.

@jayska5802

3 жыл бұрын

@@isaacjfung I mean that still is a lot of money

@isaacjfung

3 жыл бұрын

@@jayska5802 Yeah, just making sure people understand how startup equity works.

@dontreadmychanneldescripti7104

3 жыл бұрын

more like 12 million.

@francargeric1

3 жыл бұрын

The company sold for 60M, after taxes he probably had a clean million, depending on the equity distribution.

Sasuke and Itachi in the tech clan

@m8ur882

4 жыл бұрын

reinard joseph TRUE

@testplmnb

4 жыл бұрын

@@m8ur882 That means, one killed his whole family, right?

@trishulbaruah6353

4 жыл бұрын

@@testplmnb yup he didn't think this through before posting. Not a trve otaku

@ImmersiveDragon

4 жыл бұрын

lol

@vaishakm6

4 жыл бұрын

more like ray starling and shu starling from infinite dendrogram

Joma is acting like he’s never seen his brother before.

@stevenr3544

3 жыл бұрын

@@goldengriffon ah yes since he was a child he was always working on his business

@GoScience123

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevenr3544 while the rest of us were playing with legos in recess his brother was assembling data sets to train his ML algorithms

@komodo2720

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoScience123 Yes. Playing with legos definetly not eating em.

@rphero8794

2 жыл бұрын

Like a stranger ha ha

@Brian39213

2 жыл бұрын

lol

Takeaways : 1. Finding other places to package ML system is more impactful than optimising the existing components over and over. 2. Pitfall : Focusing too much on academic research for business problem, lots of literatures are not reproducible. 3. Finding a way to apply ML to business is difficult, so it must be worth it and we need to define the right pipelines from training to model optimization. 4. Do not focusing on the ML, focusing on the solution of the business. 5. Solve repetitive problem with human first, then use simple heuristics, then improve the accuracy with ML. 6. Do not focusing on the technology, iterate fast on business problems. 7. Pitfall : Trying to solve too much with ML. Focus on the most important part that can be solved with ML. Dear Joma, I cannot be more thankful for this interview. This kind of interview is incredibly inspiring and valuable. I wish you can make lots of interview like this which focuses on the business/product aspects. We already have tons of material on ML, AI, Coding, Devops blabla. What we need are the WHY and HOW (to be rich like your brother). thankyou thankyou thankyou.....

@dennisong8270

4 жыл бұрын

Great summary!

@archanapramod434

3 жыл бұрын

Great! Thanks for the summary!

@ruechaba7492

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent application of design thinking process

@HOEA-WAKA

3 жыл бұрын

Leg.

@MrFratama

3 жыл бұрын

what is the meaning of point 1 actually? does it mean something like finding every possible place where we could implement ML system in our program?

Sold company for 60 mill *not a piece of designer clothing in sight* goals honestly

@dotinsideacircle

4 жыл бұрын

So you don't think he goes out to dinner and other events with brand name clothing just because you see him sitting in a room with a t-shirt? You're delusional. The guy didn't get to sell a 60 million dollar company by being granola. I bet you he doesn't drive a Kia.

@ADAMBLVCK

4 жыл бұрын

@@dotinsideacircle I bet he's more working than flashing brand clothing on human retinas.

@OnlyusemyBlade420

4 жыл бұрын

When you have money you don’t need too

@kGu97

4 жыл бұрын

Real talk though, most no-named brands have better looking pieces. All the price is is just the name lul...I guess material quality too.

@MrCleaN-ls6qz

4 жыл бұрын

You don't know enough about clothing to make that judgement.

These guys act like Buisness partners not brothers

@maaad5073

4 жыл бұрын

In chinese, there is brother in business..

@maaad5073

4 жыл бұрын

There is no family in bussiness

@cvhashim

4 жыл бұрын

You got all that from this video? Joma keeping it professional

@gmshadowtraders

4 жыл бұрын

It's an asian thing. These traditional family cultures and heightened expectations, are nothing short of ruthless.

@vinayyyyy_

4 жыл бұрын

gmshadowtraders I disagree even I was surprised by their conversation like I thought it was more like an American thing & definitely not asian

This is a really high-quality interview. Probably because it's between two very intelligent and clued-up technical and business people. Thank you Joma and brother, David.

Your brother's advice on doing stuff manually and only later on automating something is great advice for pre-seed startups. Thank you very much!

@jvishnuiitm123

3 жыл бұрын

Good show. One thing I didn’t like was the sudden increase volume of music background

@professionalprocrastinator8103

Жыл бұрын

It applies to everything really, especially in the world of engineering. Try to get a POC as fast possible, then refine it and automate it.

This interview is brilliant! The best realistic discussion on the use of real world ML that I’ve heard. David is awesome.

He answered all my questions on Twitter!! I'm so humbled!!!!

how happy to see own brother doing so well in life!

This is your best Interview yet. I really like this much more chill kind of atmosphere

This guy is funny as hell in the ending when plugging his twitter.

Incredibly insightful. I hope I'll be able to remember everything covered in this interview. If I do, I'm sure this'll help shape the rest of my career.

Pretty amazing. Lisa is basically a one-stop interactive AI system. It actually could be fitting all the fields and doesn't need to be just for the real state.

@naderahmed6414

2 жыл бұрын

I could definitely use it for scheduling tours

Wow this is an incredible interview and video thank you so much for this! You and your brother are awesome!

Joma don't goooo, we need more of these interviews :(

This interview shed light on a lot of questions for me. Great advice! Thank you!

Thanks for doing the show! Great inspirations!

The coolest guy on the internet And Joma

please never stop making videos man i m a computer science student and i get motivated whenever i see your videos

@GauravK_

4 ай бұрын

how you doing now?

@mrmack678

4 ай бұрын

@@GauravK_ Doing good. Graduated with CS Degree. Working as a SWE at a automation multinational company in Pakistan.

Joma low key richer than tech lead by association now.

Working as a ML specialist at a small startup, this was definitely inspiring. And it made me feel less shitty about the simple solutions I have come up with for the company so far, lol

@dewinmoonl

Жыл бұрын

lvl1 practitioner of X: "have you thought about using X for problem?!" lvl2: "here's how you an still do X, but it's probably not needed" lvl3: "have you thought of NOT using X?"

David seems like calmer and less arrogant Steven Jobbs. No wonder he was so successful.

@zabrak999

3 жыл бұрын

just high IQ things~

6:45 --> So true! Models are useless if cannot perform in a Production environment. Encountered this several times as a PM. I predict that eventually there will be an open source framework that will help integrating the Data Science (models) with the Data engineering part of it (infrastructure)

I loved the question you asked him on how LISA actually works. Gave me some ideas on how to explain the interactions in the app am working on.

super valuable interview... wish you just did more of these types of interviews, extremely motivating

David is a vibe. He seems calming.

@nnmartin94

4 жыл бұрын

Of course you think that, he has money lol. Without money he's boring.

@nhungang536

4 жыл бұрын

@@nnmartin94 wow so bill gates is boring w/o money :)))

@prakash_77

4 жыл бұрын

Don't doubt his vibe!

@cornfedninja

4 жыл бұрын

@@nnmartin94 so true lmaooo

@bhpaak

4 жыл бұрын

@@nnmartin94 Being intelligent is charismatic, but he doesn't come off as pretentious. He just seems matter of fact, and he doesn't try to dominate and teach. The success definitely gives credibility to his intelligence though.

I really liked David's wisdom there. Everyone is trying to fit models but not spending any thought to solve a problem in the real-world with a holistic approach. Bravo:)

Dang, he’s living the dream

A big part of ML engineering is "production-izing" the model - taking a model you learned and tested in development, and integrating it into whatever system or application you've created. Bonus points if you create a production system that allows you to A/B test different models against each other live in production in a statistically significant way.

Joma's brother is so cool man.

You could tell His brother is a genius. 🧠 gives off that “Brilliant” vibe.

His brother sat with perfect posture throughout the entire interview.

If you're a budding entrepreneur, this video is gold - Lots of tips, how to stay focused on the outcome than premature optimizing. Cheers.

Thats inspirational man Much appreciated

THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THUMBNAIL CONTENT AT THE BEGINNING. THIS MOVE MAKES ME WATCH THE WHOLE VIDEO

A great interview. After watching it, I subscribed your channel. Thanks, Hope to see something like this more...

Would definitely pay to learn more about the components and processes that he found helpful when building for existing products.

great interview loved the break down of the product amazing

Fascinating conversation. Thank you

“I was a researcher bla bla bla “ nothing hit my heart so fast.

Very good points made by the interviewee!

Brother, that video was a gold mine , hats off & thank you.

This was very valuable! Awesome job!

You look much better than few months during your job searching. Preparing for interviews when I know nothing about algorithms is so stressing😭 I feel you man.

@PescaitoFrito

3 жыл бұрын

Aww hope you can overcome the situation, ♥

They're both obviously very smart but his brother sounds extremely intelligent. Inspirational fs

Amazing interview! *I feel lucky to have come across this!* 🙌😊📚🤩

Very cool interview, really informative, thank you!

Your brother is very humble about his intelligence

Close your eyes and he sounds like Elon Musk slightly 😂😂😂

@funkychunky8759

4 жыл бұрын

So fing trueeeee

@purewoody1623

4 жыл бұрын

LoL ya you wish

@radonsmith4386

4 жыл бұрын

More than slightly

@AlbertoRivas13

4 жыл бұрын

Yoooo so true

@AlbertoRivas13

4 жыл бұрын

Talking like that is the key to success aparently

Such high quality content. LOVE your channel.

This is really informative, thanks. No boasting, just real information and facts.

Broo please put your interview on Spotify as podcasts so I can just easily listen to them offline when communing ❤️

@DewTime

4 жыл бұрын

Simone zanetti You can already do that with KZread red. Couldn’t imagine not having it

*You should do a video with your parents. They must be proud!*

@CrazyMoments728

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah proud of his brother not JOMA lool

@mankybrains

4 жыл бұрын

@@CrazyMoments728 joma gets away from it if he's the youngest of the siblings. That's always the case. No need to be the star just be the baby.

Excellent interview.

I've watched this video for about three times and now this the fourth time. Is just make me feel ready to get into tech industry but unfortunately I drop out from college due for my language skills at that time. Never give up.

@allahm-ast3mnlywlatstbdlny164

2 жыл бұрын

good luck

I hopefully i’ll be hired for his company in the next 5 years, this video make my try hard to learn more python packages

26:00 Joma: " are u guys hiring (pointing himself) " Then goes on to interview the 'could be' boss.

@Filaxsan

4 жыл бұрын

To which David reply: "yes, we need GOOD engineers" closing definitely the conversation 😂🤣

I love your channel Joma! Please keep up the good work

2 brothers who are so alike is rare

A humble Super Nerdy ML Engineer..

Every video that I watch of Joma is lit af

Finally you are back, man , keep checking you everyday!!!!!

wow this was super informative, thanks!

He’s so adorable 🥰 omg I hope Joma does more interviews with him.

@speedodaga6437

2 жыл бұрын

more like rich

@hermanbrown9454

2 жыл бұрын

How do you call an adult male adorable ?

Seeing Joma being serious is funny 😂😂😂

This is good bro a lot of insight on startups.

Your bro seems to be being a good Guy, props to your parents for two Great children

This is a great talk. Your brother is very knowledgable and I'm greatful to hear this conversation and the insights provided. Thanks for both of your time! I'd be interested to hear how "software engineering" concepts are distinguished from ML components. Is the SWE part working with React, Node.JS building UI, user logins, system design components (databases, caching, indexing, CDNs)? Was the SWE focused on web development (DJANGO w/ python or MongoExpressReactNode) or mobile (IOS / Android)?

@wishIKnewHowToLove

Жыл бұрын

Nobody reads long comments

So ML increases user-readiness for the final product and that involves full project management with various focuses activated simultaneously... it's not all sitting and doing the obvious coding work, anymore... and he thinks that's the fun. He likes doing all the busywork to define the existing infrastructure. Most engineers don't see the gold in being like that, probably because they're impatient. They'd rather lose sleep optimizing components with no confirmed demand because then you look amazing instantly. Loved the visual accompaniment. I'll miss these videos.

Good interview. Picked up some useful information

Need a video of ya hanging out chillin! Bros!

13:51 Maybe show dark interface!

I'm curious about the business side of things. Did they raise funds to start their biz and to also pay themselves while building the company? How were they able to sustain themselves while working on the biz? And were they all sharing the same apartment in the meantime? Some things that we don't learn in school or online platforms that would give some good insights for people.

Awesome questions asked with such depth

This guy is the true real guy who gives insights of the industry.

Very good diagram!! Made it easy to understand overview of LISA!

@jomakaze

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I worked hard on that

man this was a proper tech interview ......way better than those interviews which media channels conduct like how did you achieve this at such a young age or do you want to beat facebook or google(blah blah blah).....

Fantastic useful information. I'm working for an AI startup and seeing some of the same pitfalls as well.

These dudes are Savage's, they keep their employees under 30, sell for 60m, quickly.

@UsaM

4 жыл бұрын

like making an object, making it look and do good. mold then sell, then make something new.

As someone who is working with Machine Learning for my university's final year project this is so interesting and has certainly got me focusing on the right idea. Thank you so much for publishing this

@rohlay00

3 жыл бұрын

What do you study? I'm doing robotic engineering and would love to do that! But I dont know if I have (or could develop) the skills to be able to do my final year project with machine learning.

this is a much better video than anything prior

This is a great interview.

8:15 Joma: "Maybe not everything should use blockchain technology" Also Joma: Creates an entire cinematic universe surrounding eccentric CEOs trying to integrate blockchain into window blinds and shades. Coincidence? I think not!

Yo your brother is speaking facts. Everyone is worried about building the model and not feature engineering. Majority of the time your messing with the data pipeline but people don’t wanna hear that

insightful and useful interview imo

Great Interview Joma

Now waiting for your brother's 3rd interview in the future 'cause surely you'd have more cool stuff to talk to again.

I read most of the comments but didn't see anyone comparing them to Sherlock and Mycroft. It really looked like Sherlock interviewing his brother on a case he's solving.

Great video !

Joma's brother is his best interview yet.

So cute. He’s so proud of his brother

Really appreciate the honesty, instead of usual AI hype

Awesome video!

This one is great. I mean there so many hints in this video that my eyeballs almost poped up.

Great interview. It's cool to see two really smart people who are comfortable with each other discussing technical topics. 👍 Also, this really reminds me of how much I've wasted my life. 😑

@veedoto6109

2 жыл бұрын

It's been a year. Let me guess, another year wasted?

@mastermind5421

2 жыл бұрын

@@veedoto6109 lmao

@ianlee6769

2 жыл бұрын

@@veedoto6109 god damn