Yo! Glad to have been a part of this one. It was a ton of fun! Thanks again for having me on!

@ChiTownOriginator

2 жыл бұрын

Saw this video come up, went to your video, watched it and came back here. I just sat through essentially 7 straight (and brief) hours of listening to you speak. You seem like a great person and can't wait for your upcoming works. Glad you collabbed with these guys.

@ragingfred

2 жыл бұрын

Dylan you need to watch the new AVGN episode that just came out. trust me

@slob5041

2 жыл бұрын

Really loved your video

@BrendanSlob

2 жыл бұрын

Watched it over a 5 day span while doing odd jobs around the house. Good job man! I felt you were objective..all things considered. How can you accurately document over 20 years of a channel without making it so long?

@thecourier8634

2 жыл бұрын

As someone who is a fan of you and who is going down the AVGN rabbit hole, this is such a treat to find.

"I didn't even know there WAS a fall" - current AVGN fanbase

@haveanotherpinacolada

2 жыл бұрын

Have they not watched anything in the past 8 years...?

@katokianimation

2 жыл бұрын

@@haveanotherpinacolada they weren't even borned yet 8 years ago

@katokianimation

2 жыл бұрын

@Nero im 25. I left the ship with the Black Tiger ps4 review. I tried to give many chance to it but the newer episodes are unwatchable and painfully not funny

@Peterkrack

Жыл бұрын

Right

@Peterkrack

Жыл бұрын

To the main comment

I love the subtle dis of putting his profile pic up there lol

I love the smirks when the guest is talking about how much TIME he used to have haha!! Good show and I love the documentary as well.

I think the part of your video that hit me hardest Dylan is when you said that you felt devastated that you hated the AVGN Movie. I think we all felt this... We all felt terrible that somebody we were rooting for, admired or even were inspired by...had made something so important to him but was so bad that we couldn't even lie to ourselves that we liked it. So bad that it practically ruined his chances for a future in what he wanted. So bad that we couldn't blindly support it for James sake while keeping our integrity in tact... It IS devastating to have to do that, felt like I was telling a family member that their hard work failed.

@haveanotherpinacolada

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately he didn't want to learn from it and has completely stagnated ever since.

@POVCAST_YT

Жыл бұрын

@@haveanotherpinacolada I'd argue the guy thought he was above learning. He expected to go to Hollywood as a nerd pop culture icon and be a filmmaker in full control of his career. Needless to say he was humbled pretty quickly...

@Slop_Dogg

Жыл бұрын

@@POVCAST_YT James has a major case of arrested development in terms of his interests & skills. At a certain point he sort of decided he knew enough & had seen enough. I don’t think there’s any interest in growing as a creator.

@bakasta5992

Жыл бұрын

I think James should’ve started with short films that get released at film festivals. Maybe find a director to teach him the ropes.

@Deadguy2322forreal

10 ай бұрын

That bizarre behind-the-scenes video James put out really shows that!

That face next to that avatar is like the Webster's definition of comedy.

@markwulf

Жыл бұрын

That's what I was about to comment lmao

@bepatientIhaveautism

Жыл бұрын

reminds me of that famous feminist frequency avatar

@reidye

Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of skydoesminecraft. We were shocked when we saw what he actually looked like lol

@idkanymore3382

Жыл бұрын

This guy is a lolcow because of this, the dude needs to be honest with himself KEEEEK

@ryanjavierortega8513

Жыл бұрын

I think he’s cool

Great interview. I'll add I always thought the 'you take this too seriously' charge is kind of funny, because James taking the production of the show seriously was and is part of the draw. High effort, guerrilla filming wasn't really done in the earliest years of KZread. James not only took it seriously, he treated it like a show until it just became a show. It's ironic now that people act like no one should critically assess it as art, almost as if it was one of those filmed-on-a-webcam, no-effort first year KZread shows all along.

@Deadguy2322forreal

10 ай бұрын

Not to mention the inherent hypocrisy of telling someone that they aren’t allowed to criticize a critic.

I've watched a 6 hour James video twice now I get to watch his interview???? Amazing

Dylan Did a great job of breaking it down and I must say I watched or listened to all 6 hours

I wonder if his first 10 years were so innovative and exciting because he thought he was building to a movie career. Then, as you said, the movie happened and he realized maybe he was stuck with KZread. I hope he give another shot at a movie but I think this really did crush his dreams.

@Jonqen

Жыл бұрын

He always sucked at movies prob

@karlimo4034

Жыл бұрын

The long story of women getting on your nose and ruinning everything.

@terrysmith4889

Жыл бұрын

@Nero he married a lefty? what an idiot. he should send her to live in a third world country for 1 year to fix this problem. if she makes it back alive they can continue being married.

I’m only just now finding your channel and have been binging these AVGN videos. But NOW I have to go re-watch the brief documentary.

I really liked Dylan's video and love that you had him on to pick his brain about it. I'm actually a fan of the length of the video. I watched it in it's entirety and have been listening to it to fall asleep to lately. I have trouble falling asleep and like to listen to things until I drift off so it's a perfect video for me.

@haveanotherpinacolada

2 жыл бұрын

Have you watched PatricianTV's 'brief' look at Morrowing and Oblivion?

Well, I for one look forward to Dylan's examination of Channel Awesome. I am interested what he has to say, and willing to provide any info as a former CA person if he needs it!

@haveanotherpinacolada

2 жыл бұрын

Oh god.... that change the channel document contains some horrors.

@haveanotherpinacolada

2 жыл бұрын

Are you... Iron Liz? I was obsessed with the changethechannel stuff a few years back and saw/read quite a bit about you. Was it true they made you help on one of the films then you got injured and Mike Michaud forced you to sign some paperwork so they weren't responsible or something?

@TheIronLiz

2 жыл бұрын

@@haveanotherpinacolada Yes I am! I was an unpaid Production Assistant for Suburban Knights in 2011. I worked from 6am to about 8-10pm each day on the production, and got roped into a lot of their dysfunction. They were down a person, and so I became "Cloak #2" in the film. During the filming of the final fight, the guy who played Malachite botched a stunt, and stomped my knee in (in front of everyone there, I might add)). Since I was a production assistant (and not on the site yet), they didn't have me sign the waiver when I got there, which stated they weren't responsible for injuries. I hobbled my butt back to the house, and no sooner when I sat on the couch, Rob Walker stuck the form in my hands sign. TBH, I don't remember if I did or not (I suspect I did), but yes, that absolutely did happen!

@rhysm.5915

Жыл бұрын

And Iron Liz was there, the great Iron Liz... Great work ethic.

@vampiricpig1392

Жыл бұрын

​@@rhysm.5915that's what I thought of when I saw it was indeed ironliz ❤

I actually watch the whole video It was pretty interesting How he broke everything down

@haveanotherpinacolada

2 жыл бұрын

The AVGN movie section was most interesting. I've never seen anyone break it down that way. People tend to say 'oh its just meant to be bad leave it alone' or 'it's shit'. and not really any further analysis? This is the first time i've seen it in that much depth.

@Voykod

Жыл бұрын

@@haveanotherpinacolada Yes, and the notion of the failure of the movie being the straw that broke the camel's back was pretty refreshing and made a lot of sense.

@Flow-Joe

Жыл бұрын

Just finished it. Now 5 minutes into this. If i dedicalte a night for that, i might as well round it off and finish with this.

This was another great collab, it was cool to hear you guys and Dylan discuss a lot of the psychology of his video. While I do think it could have been more concise or quick in parts, I did watch it in full when it released and thought it was very thorough. I feel bad that people still blindly think simple discussion and analysis videos like Dylan's and Red Cow's are like blind attacks against James. Often I think they have a point with some of the fans growing up and growing distant from the show, but it is subjective, and I can explain what makes the older videos still work for me. It's just weird how it is still perceived by some fans that saying "this doesn't really work for me anymore" equates to shitting on everything James does or has done. But whatever, it is fun to dissect the oddities as they drop from the ceiling. Great video again! I didn't even catch the "Crow" typo at all, haha.

@Paul-wh7ev

2 жыл бұрын

Bro I'm going crazy I'm seeing you everywhere now

Hearing swole doge and cheems be referred to as "buff dog and shitty dog" was unexpectedly hilarious for me.

Wow great interview, I watched the entire six hours when it came out

Bring me the good ol Bimmy news 🔥

I think "slob" needs to become the slang for a hired assistant. "Damn, I have way too much work on my plate. This situation calls for some slobs!"

@WhiteManOnCampus

10 ай бұрын

Only awful hired assistants who clearly give as little of a shit about the job as about their health.

I subbed for having Dylan on

i listened to all of it in pieces , it was great and i appreciated it was said by someone that was a fan as well.

Goddamn I remember Captain S. Didn't really watch must of it, but I can totally remember highschool-age me sitting down and seeing an episode of Screwattack-era AVGN, then watching Captain S, followed by some video of Handsome Tom or Stuttering Craig. Super comfy memories.

@haveanotherpinacolada

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah.... I remember seeing him in that Nerd/Nostalgia critic first fight video. At the time I wondered who the hell is this guy? If i recall there was a behind the scenes type video after where James and Doug planned the event and James casually says 'I was thinking Captain S would be there as a peacekeeper' and Doug looked confused and just agreed.

@AarturoSc

Жыл бұрын

Captain S?! Captain Sh*t?! -AVGN

I'm a finish carpenter that had a good time listening to Dylan's video while working alone (I often do). I went on to listen to most of his stuff while working. Waiting impatiently for the Nostalgia Critic one, and I would love to hear his take on the Brothers Chaps.

Wow 6 hours. I will definitely attempt to watch.

Great interview. I watch these for the stories, not necessarily about having, but his story piques my interest for sure.

I've been watching him for over a year he makes great content.😊

@Tomversal

2 жыл бұрын

Me too, his videos are so good

@Peterkrack

Жыл бұрын

Yeah not this guy

I loved this and the Rise and Fall video. Great job gentlemen.

Definitely watched it all in one go. Great background listen.

Legit took me a second, i thought there were 4 people in this chat/ podcast until i realized that the anime avatar is actually supposed to represent this dylan guy...

I wasnt aware this video existed but now I am and will watch it. Thanks Red Cow Arcade for the exposure. I agree with everything you all have had to say on Cinemassacre. I avoid the groups because of the toxicity but the criticisms are real.

This Haley Joel Osment chap seems like a good guy. I’ll definitely check out his content. Great interview guys. 👍🏻

I watched the 6 hours video... and now I have no time!

Just hope he doesn't start a 7 hour Rise and Fall of Red Cow one day...

@RedCowEntertainment

2 жыл бұрын

We should be so lucky! Though, it would require a "rise" in the first place :P

@reinforcedpenisstem

2 жыл бұрын

@@RedCowEntertainment It's already started to rise...

@immortaluglyfish2724

2 жыл бұрын

@@RedCowEntertainment just don't associate with Screenwave and you should be fine.

@Alienhos

2 жыл бұрын

@@reinforcedpenisstem Rose by at least 10 inches

@BananaPhoPhilly

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alienhos Load was huge!!!

JESUS CHRIST! CONTRARY TO HIS AVATAR I DIDN'T EXPECT HIM TO LOOK LIKE THE PENGUIN! I think his video was pretty good though tbh.

I put a comment talking about "Brief... 6 hours" but I was joking when I put it, his video was awesome!

This guy's top tier KZread commentary. Only when these refusing things I'm actually familiar with though...

1:15:46 For a second there, I thought I was also a guest on the Red Crow Arcade podcast!

The guy on the right suppose to be Tony Hawk?

@AarturoSc

Жыл бұрын

Yes.

I know Brief was meant as a joke, but to be fair, the six hour documentary on James Rolfe is brief compared to something like the multi-part Chris chan series by GenoSamuel. I think that's at about 70 parts now.

I'm actually super interested in the "AVGN Movie: Red Cow Cut"

@RedCowArcade

2 жыл бұрын

You know where to find me!

Perseverate. Nice. You taught me a new word, Frankie. Thank you!

Dylan looks like a young George RR Martin

My 1st introduction to AVGN was his "SNES vs Genesis" video. Then I saw the "TMNT" vid and was hooked. His "Video Store Memories" video is my favorite. However since the Pandemic you can tell the content has gone down. Especially after Mike left.

@NavySharkz

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! After the O.G. crew left, the quality took a serious nosedive. The recent AVGN vid he did about the Ninja game where Mike came and helped felt like the good classic days.

"Emulators weren't easily accessed I had to buy the consoles" - what? Nesticle came out in 1997, ZSNES in 1997, and Genecyst in 1998. You barely needed a Pentium I computer to run them. What was so hard about getting emulators in 2006 and 2007?

Really been enjoying the content you guys have been coming out with, keep it up 👍

I have no other good place to say this, I went back to watch BoxMac and legitimately didn’t recognize Frankie until maybe the 3rd episode. From Slob to Star goddamn

@RedCowArcade

2 жыл бұрын

What can I say?

I listened to the whole thing, had no intention to but i did. Pretty good

have you guys also suffered the curse of good views from talking about AVGN but not your primary channel topics? I KNOW I SURE HAVE... any video i do shitting on Rex Viper is a certified classic before I hit publish... also, I used one of ya'lls clips in my video reviews because you phrase things in a way that cuts to exactly what I'm thinking, but I'm not smart enough to word it the way you do.. specifically the beard-less dude. would love to be on one of your podcasts, cheers.

hey dylan why is your pfp of a skinny guy?

@heyhonpuds

3 ай бұрын

Why is yours a fat ginger cat?

@KonEl-BlackZero

2 ай бұрын

Because he hates mondays

@ungabungus01

Ай бұрын

Classic yt pfp lol

It’s awesome you brought him on lmao, RCA has become my favorite channel to watch 🤷‍♂️

@BananaPhoPhilly

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly same, it's one of the only channels I get excited to see new stuff from anymore

Hey Red cow guys. You need to watch the new AVGN episode that just came out. Trust me

Came for the extemporaneous use of the word "extemporaneous", stayed for the discussion; was not disappointed on either count.

11:19 I love a younger guy being like “ it’s was called …G4, not sure if you guys have heard about this little channel 😮”

Geno Samuel: Six hour documentary? Hold my beer. (for real, the Rise and Fall of AVGN is fantastic and worth watching despite the length).

Great interview. Also, I'm from Liverpool and have to say the scouse impression with top drawer. Good job.

It was a great documentary. It took me a week..but i enjoyed it!

This is slowly but surely turning into a Cinemassacre drama channel... But I can't stop watching because their commentary is too good and well thought out.

@RedCowArcade

2 жыл бұрын

I mean fair enough, but also to be fair, we have an entire channel full of hundreds of videos unrelated to Cinemassacre and for every Cinemassacre video we post here, there’s another 7 or 8 unrelated.

@brzilla1235

2 жыл бұрын

I agree! Was just poking fun, that's all. Love y'all's vids!

I guess it's because I'm used to watching Mauler, but a 6 hour video wasn't shocking to me haha :D looking forward to watching this whole interview!

Gotta extend my thanks to yall. You're how I found his video in the first place, which was an amazing breakdown of avgns career. I first saw the Friday the 13th video when I was like 12,and was instantly hooked. Yall did a good interview with night owl and i have since subscribed to you both. Alot of James videos remain to this day some of my favorite videos on KZread ever, but I'm on board with the fact that they drastically have dipped in quality. However I remain a supporter of his in hopes he will one day start doing what he wants again. Although his most recent uploads seem to be a step in the right direction, I believe he needs to go through some kind of metamorphosis to become great again. How? Oh boy there's so many possibilitys. Anyway great interview from red cow!!!

Who thought Cinemassacre Truth would create an entire online subculture? Great stuff as always, thank you.

Well done.

It's crazy I can't commit to a two hour plus movie, but I'm down for a five or six hour youtube video lol

This is a great interview!

Awesome video keep up the good work!

20:49 That's the worst buff dog/shitty dog meme I've ever seen, lol

@Tomversal

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn't even make sense

I dont even open James Rolfe videos he upload except for AVGN... its sad that because of those Pigs...

@BananaPhoPhilly

Жыл бұрын

PIGS lmao that made me laugh

I am still waiting for the "i don't give a fuck man" dedicated video XD Jokes aside you should contact Lady Emily who made another excellent video on the Cinemassacre situation also addressing Rex Viper.

could it be possible to see your version of the AVGN movie, I love editing exercises, in fact i just re-edited a Space Ghost episode yesterday out of a Table Read session, and I would love to see what you did with the AVGN movie. Great interview, Dylan is such a good uploader and i loved his avgn video

@RedCowArcade

2 жыл бұрын

Message me on the red cow Facebook or frankiefrain on Reddit.

@HumblyArtsy

2 жыл бұрын

@@RedCowArcade nevermind lol i just found it and i sent a message! lol

Big Dylan Fan BTW

I was going to make an avgn documentary but I have kids.

I saw it in its entirety man JESUS

Excellent interview! I hope you guys keep up with this Cinemassacre debacle cause I don't use Reddit and you help bring this content to more people like me

His DeviantArt iceberg is really good as well.

I used to fall asleep watching AVGN review classic games, and now I fall asleep watching Dylan review classic AVGN.

I think you guys should get get chris bores on for an episode. Dude as far as I'm concerned was the first most hated youtuber since KZread's existence.

Dylan made an visual WIKIPEDIA of AVGN

Mr Metokurs That Guy With The Glasses series is brilliant. But I could easily see a version more similar to your AVGN video being worthwhile.

damn it, i tried to go back and rewatch the part where he does the tony impression but i can't find it

@RedCowEntertainment

2 жыл бұрын

22:38

@mm5929

2 жыл бұрын

@@RedCowEntertainment thank you, just wanted to laugh at that part again

He looks like a cross between Chaz Bono and Haley Joel Osment

I love the Cinemassacre bashing!! Lol keep it up guys

@Channeleven2345789

2 жыл бұрын

It’s cathartic to see, especially when I believe AVGN was never good, just influential.

@SalveASMR

2 жыл бұрын

@@Channeleven2345789 You must be a new guy or just a troll hanging on the bandwagon.

Frankie, would you and EJ consider guest hosting an episode of Who Are These Podcasts? As a follow up to their own review of The Cinemassacre Podcast?

@RedCowArcade

2 жыл бұрын

If they’d have us? Sure

Is there any way to view said AVGN movie recut?

@RedCowArcade

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, you can DM me on Reddit, Facebook, X, etc. and I can link you.

The 6 hour concern is a sad reflection of our attention spans. Many of the people complaining spend 6 hours in front of a screen everyday anyway. But they are just watching 2 minute videos. Why does a well articulated essay focused on a fascinating topic with tons of information scare people away? Sad

@Hobojoe4464

2 жыл бұрын

People are weird, they'll have a short attention span for one thing, but they'll binge watch half a season or more or a show in one sitting. That's if they are even "watching" it in the traditional sense (actually having their eyes on the screen instead of elsewhere) I know Dylan's video would work as a podcast as was discussed, but when something is primarily a visual medium, and you ignoring the visual part by "multitasking" then you can miss alot. If you're rewatching something it's a bit different to when it's new to you. I watched the video on and off last weekend.

@haveanotherpinacolada

2 жыл бұрын

Not all people, lot of us enjoyed it. Some other bloke did a 7 hour and 11 hour video on Morrowind and Oblivion and they were popular. Different types of people aren't there, some like 6 hour videos on AVGN, some like tiktok.

@seth5143

Жыл бұрын

@@Hobojoe4464 I mean if you're going to multitask while "watching" something, this autist's overly-long Cinemassacre vid should definitely be it since the viewer can't make out most of the visuals anyway.

@sameash3153

Жыл бұрын

Be real, two hours of the video are totally unnecessary, it's literally just him going through every episode one by one until he eventually gives up in the middle of the series and goes straight to the criticism of the nerd, and it's like, why even commit to that bit to begin with? Should have been cut. Stopped watching two and a half hours in. No doubt there was more that needed to be cut.

@NavySharkz

Жыл бұрын

Yes, this right here! So glad I'm not part of the ADD riddled generation.

This has to be the largest disconnect between youtube avatar and actual person I've seen

@stevenpina1983

Жыл бұрын

Seems par for the course for most ytubers wit a avatar. Dylan isn’t doing anything out of the ordinary

For what it's worth, I'm a little bit older then AVGN. I've watched his entire career as an adult. So I have no childhood nostalgia connected to him. His series dropped off and became tired a long time before Screenwave (but those episodes are noticeably worse). It's been middling for a good 10 years. The problem is, he not really a critic and everything is pretty surface level. As a result the shtick became older much faster. As he come across as genuine nice guy so I think a like a lot of people hold back on saying he probably doesn't have skills (emotional or otherwise) to be a real filmmaker. I say that with no joy. I also work in distribution/production and have worked with countless filmmakers so I think I'm in a good position to make that assessment. I can't imagine he even wants to be a filmmaker anymore. It's clear his focus is his kids (so it should be). Hopefully, he's invested his money well, and AVGN will allow him to provide for his kids , and give them a good future.

I'm still watching the video

really good interview

You guys am i the only one who knows that AVGN recently did an episode with irate gamer NEO. I find it interesting nobody is talking about it.

I am curious to know you're opinions on Spoony, I first found AVGN through The Spoony Experiment, another early pioneer in a similar vain to James.

@haveanotherpinacolada

2 жыл бұрын

He lost his mind.

How does one join the discord?

Big Red Cow Arcade fan, btw.

New vid about cinemassacre soon?

This channel is bringing the piping hot gravy. Hope you all take off by 2023 🙏

Love the cinemassacre truth content, keep it up, maybe you guys can go back and do reviews of the particularly egregious slob wave era content like rental reviews.

This is how a lot of good KZreadrs start, with someone’s drama, which is pretty interesting & kewl

After watching Lady Emily's video on the same topic a few times, I thought I knew everything about AVGN. Then Dylan came around and said "Nu-uh". Great stuff, good interview too.

@sameash3153

Жыл бұрын

​@@HeroicRecaps based

Dylan looks like a chunky Conor McGregor. I did watch the whole 6 hour video and it was great stuff.

I just had no clue Rich Evans had a long lost child….

I'm sitting here 30 mins into a 1.5 hour video about a 6 hour video about videos I have already watched many times. I need to reevaluate things before I become a slob.

The formula to a good/classic style AVGN episode is super simple. James' anger needs to be genuine, he needs to be a sarcastic asshole while talking about the game and he needs to sputter his words a lot as if hes too frustrated to talk coherently. Talking about how unfair the game also helps. His current episodes follow some sort of weird formula or checklist where it feels like some sort of build-a-nerd that they think the fans will enjoy

@NavySharkz

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! He goes into these long, Shakesperian monologs and the anger feels forced and artificial!