Such an important conversation! Thank you so much XO

It’s definitely vital to have these conversations, thanks for sharing. I can’t say I relate too much because, even though I’m Mexican, my skin is rather light (I’ve even been told that I’m “the whitest Mexican” someone has ever seen, or that I look like a ghost), but as a member of the gay community of course I know what discrimination feels like. Some people might think that the skin colour cannot be hidden, but the sexual orientation can. But I’m my case I’ve always been relatively feminine, so hiding it is not really easy for me either, and sometimes people can tell immediately, which doesn’t really bother me anymore in most situations, and sometimes I’m even happy about it. This episode is very special to me because o think of all my friends with dark skin. But I have a question: how do you feel about the brown and black colours being included in the LGBTQ+ flag?

Another thought provoking, take action epsisode🙏🏾💪🏾🖤

@GayMenGoingDeeper

Ай бұрын

Thank you! We're glad you found the episode thought-provoking and motivating. Your feedback means a lot and keeps us inspired to create more impactful content. Stay tuned for more!🤩

This was very healing for me, even two years on!

@GayMenGoingDeeper

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing that. We're so glad to hear that this has been healing for you, even after two years. Your feedback means a lot to us! 🌟❤

Gladly none of y'all has the same internal racism that I do. I see myself as white, I tend to overjudge other black people before they even speak, I rather date or mate with any other race besides black. I look to other races for inspirations and admiration. Gladly my black friends were able to point that out to me and since I have been working on it.

@GayMenGoingDeeper

19 күн бұрын

Thank you for being so open and honest about your experiences and feelings. It's great to hear that you're working on addressing these internalized issues with the help of your friends. Recognizing and challenging our biases is a crucial step towards personal growth and understanding. Keep up the good work, and remember, it's a journey.❤

It was great to have a listen of this conversation! I recently read We Cast A Shadow by Maurice Carlos Ruffin and it is interesting to see how the topics discussed in here relate to the main character's (a black man) obsession with assimilating to the white society he lives in. I see Star mentioned having read some of Donna Bivens' work which describes the rewards of participating in internalized racism and would appreciate I anyone could give me a clue about the specific work where this comes from.

So relatable! Thank you all!

@GayMenGoingDeeper

Ай бұрын

We're glad this resonated you. Thank you for watching!

This was really great! It would be great if you would provide on a regular basis, gay issues from a BIPOC point of view. I would be a loyal listener/viewer for sure!

LOVE THIS ONE!!

This is a beautiful channel

Politicizing innate desires.

@GayMenGoingDeeper

Ай бұрын

Thank you for your comment. It's a complex topic, and discussing innate desires often intersects with broader social and political issues.🙂

This is crazy as it could well be a 4 black women talkin about their racsist experiences. Especially when they talk about skin color and hair types.

@GayMenGoingDeeper

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! It's powerful to see parallels drawn between different experiences. These conversations help broaden perspectives and promote understanding. 🌟

Read: Brainwashed Challenging the Myth of Black Inferiority by Tom Burrell: You need to reprogram your mind.

2:09 European isn’t a race.

@GayMenGoingDeeper

2 ай бұрын

You're absolutely right! "European" refers to a geographical and cultural identity rather than a race. It's important to acknowledge and respect the diversity within Europe and around the world. Thank you for bringing up this distinction!😊

While this is a very valuable conversation, let's also not lose sight of preferences please. What if one simply prefers to date lighter skinned guys because that's one's personal taste/preference? By the way, is a white person who has an affinity towards people with darker skin also internally racist? It irks me that someone would call me internally racist simply because I find fair skin more attractive than darker skin. It's a preference, that's all. Similar to how some people prefer chocolate over vanilla.

@brentduanefoster

2 жыл бұрын

The argument of Preferences has been the default defense for too many gay men for far too long. Preferences are anchored by experiences or passed down subconscious prejudices. If we saw more equal blends of relationships, particularly interracial relationships, then it would have much more of a valid argument. But, if we’re really going to be honest with ourselves, internalized racism plays much more of a role than most of us are bold enough to admit.

@ricardosoca7380

2 жыл бұрын

@@brentduanefoster it's not a "defense" because there's nothing to defend. I am unapologetically attracted to lighter skin and some people are (hopefully also unapologetically) attracted to darker skin. Nothing to "defend" here

@brentduanefoster

2 жыл бұрын

@@ricardosoca7380 Do you know why you have that preference? Every preference has a history and a reason. Whatever that reason is, you know it for all that it is. My point is that too many mindlessly accept what they consider to be their preference are, but don’t acknowledge the REAL reasons why. Many of those reasons would expose many of us, and who will willingly self-incriminate themselves in that matter?

@seto749

2 жыл бұрын

@@brentduanefoster I'll venture a guess that many gays venture down the path of setting up an ideal as like themselves as possible.

@noelliebtsie

2 жыл бұрын

@@seto749 Do you think there is an inherent element of narcissism involved in homosexuality?