Anyone who went back and watched the first ever podcast sections on the amico (like I did last year) would know that you two were incredibly lenient towards the project in the beginning. It's only once the inappropriate behavior on Tommy's part began did the coverage begin to get more venomous. And by that point it was deserved.

@hrwise89

2 жыл бұрын

"It's only once the inappropriate behavior on Tommy's part began..." Which was basically immediately after the first video. Tommy flipped his shit that Pat and Ian weren't blindly buying into the Amico 100%. Their extremely neutral kid-gloves pensive (but ultimately positive and well-wishing) reaction sent him over the edge, hahah. Even then, they didn't really "go after" Tommy and the Amico until they he took it even further. I think as soon as Ian pointed out that Tommy can't take criticism (not an undue criticism, at the time even), Tommy and his burgeoning cult went on their all-out offensive. It was really only at that point that Pat and Ian started pressing on them. But that point it was well past well-deserved. And much more obvious that things were not going to work out well in Amico-land.

@ericwood3709

2 жыл бұрын

I remember when this. I haven't followed events since then, but I figured this was how things would turn out. Tommy was obviously full of shit. We've seen a few characters like that take advantage of crowdfunding in recent years. It was practically to be expected that natural born con men and narcissistic nitwits getting in over their heads would do so. The crowdfunding is a massive enabler of this sort of thing.

@retrogamestudios7649

2 жыл бұрын

@@hrwise89 unintelligentivision.....

ReviewTechUSA still acting like he never promoted the Intellivision for over a year 🤣

@SomeOrangeCat

2 жыл бұрын

Well he is a man with an ass. Let's get it.

@DoomDeer

2 жыл бұрын

touch grass.

@thelastdragon5551

2 жыл бұрын

He wasn’t shilling. He just so happen to be wearing Intellivision gear when he interviewed Tommy. All coincidentally. 😂

@tomgann9383

Жыл бұрын

Rich is not a smart person. Not a good judge of character. And yes, he’s doing what he always does: partake in a controversy, pretend it never happened.

@GeistInTheMachine

Жыл бұрын

He's Jabba the Hutt. All about Credits.

The idea of people being starstruck by Tommy is very amusing....

The way they spent their money on the office isn't really a new mistake to startups. Wannabe CEOs often think the fluff by itself will radiate so much competence that investors will line up at the door. We had a CEO like that too. He got fired. But even our CEO waited until we had a fully working product and install/user base before we spent serious money on an office. So the proper order is - WORKING prototype - Angel investors - Series A - and THEN an expensive Office :D

@TheCommanderTaco

2 жыл бұрын

True, but don't forget as Pat and Ian have also stated most startups ( especially ones of this caliber) have people putting money into, not taking money out of lol.

@BainesMkII

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen similar with other companies. Instead of spending money and time actually improving the business, they spend it improving the appearance of the business. The justification is that investors, stockholders, potential executive hires, and the like get skittish if the business *doesn't* focus on its appearance that way. (Mind, as much as the business might blow on *looking* successful, that may still be cheaper than what they'd have to spend to measurably improve its actual business enough to matter.)

@Ringmaster138

2 жыл бұрын

Look what happened with Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos. lots of money spent on staff and offices with a hollow product

@ccricers

2 жыл бұрын

In the StartEngine campaign they valued themselves at $30 million. They were way in over their head in this one too. $30 mil is expected around series B, not pre-revenue.

@hrwise89

2 жыл бұрын

That's the definition of cargo-cult behavior.

Some say that on certain nights, you can hear the ghost of Tommy wailing about Pat and Ian echoing through the empty board rooms.

@TheSimTetuChannel

2 жыл бұрын

Aaaaaaaaamiiiicooooooo 👻

@TheMunky25

2 жыл бұрын

Weeeellllll annnyyyywayyyyy

@SpeedyDePalma

2 жыл бұрын

I thought you could hear him name off all the languages you can put the Amicos menu in.

@juicyfruit6311

2 жыл бұрын

Are you sure that isn't Smurfette JT crying for his wife's $10,000?

@opaljk4835

2 жыл бұрын

Timmy dyed?

The victory lap needs to be a 2 hour special with guests and clips.

@juicyfruit6311

2 жыл бұрын

Let's get John Riggs to run or swim laps for 2 hours. He'll be able to lose some weight.

@ggezlol-

2 жыл бұрын

I so badly want internet historian to do a video on this. It would be an instant classic.

@XanthinZarda

2 жыл бұрын

AVGN, Pat & Ian, Matt McMuscles, Internet Historian, Gaming Historian, who else should get in this party bus?

@TheSaltySeaman

2 жыл бұрын

@@XanthinZarda Frank!

@XanthinZarda

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSaltySeaman TV's Frank, Frank Conniff? A bit of a left field, but I could see it!

I know the CEO of a successful business he started. It started in his living room. It stayed in his living room and he only moved out to an office building he built himself when his wife was tired of tripping over the paperwork and product. He had a multi-million dollar annual revenue before he left his living room. As SFDebris has said in one of his reviews, "authors want to write; most people want to have written." The ones that are most successful tend to not care whether they look it.

@ashzole

Жыл бұрын

what’s the name of the business

Intellivision moving into that office AFTER the pandemic started never made sense until it came out that 1) the building was owned by the CFO 2) It used to have a smoothie shop in front (and the CFO's excess personal property like cars and boats in the back- hiding assets?). So the CFO, fresh off a bankruptcy, loses a renter because of the pandemic and decides to rent it to himself (using FIG/Republic/Preorder/PPP money) even though everybody in that office doing actual engineering could work from home as evidenced by the fact they had been working from home up until that time. It's not hard to blow through tens of millions when paying yourself six figure salaries and paying yourself rent (at pre-pandemic rates) with other people's money.

@lasskinn474

2 жыл бұрын

" everybody in that office doing actual engineering " lol there was no engineering going on in the offices there.

As soon as I saw the video with their office I knew this was a fraud. It was way too extravagant for a company that hasn’t made any money.

@ccricers

2 жыл бұрын

When I saw the room full of Nick's cars (and learned he's a big car guy like Tommy), that was the most ridiculous part of the office for me. A room crammed with broken cars! They might as well have a mechanic's shop.

@SudrianTales

10 ай бұрын

​@@ccricers A mechanics shop would've made money

@ladynikkie

2 ай бұрын

It wasn't just that office they have four offices one in Germany and one in Dubai you're a startup company why do you need multiple offices these guys were practically spending $2 for every $1 they earned but in this case scammed.

PAT: "I'm not telling you how to run your business." IAN: "I am. Sure we are."

@plufim

2 жыл бұрын

Righteous Anger Ian is a pleasure. That man needs to be pushed so far before he pushes back, and when he does, it is a sight to behold.

Luckily, I saw these guys questioning the Amico early enough that I was able to get my $100 refunded. And then I spent it on Pat’s Nintendo/Super Nintendo books.

@PatTheNESpunk

2 жыл бұрын

@heisensaul5538

2 жыл бұрын

$100 better spent sir :)

@fordxbgtfalcon

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, I didn’t pay a $100 deposit on an Amico but I did buy both of Pat’s books. They are literally the best ones out there.

@AJR-zg2py

2 жыл бұрын

Power move.

@ladynikkie

2 жыл бұрын

A much better investment indeed.

Ha! It's totally "The Secret"! Ian is right! Keith Robinson's "Intellvision Productions" office was a tiny room next to Coffee Shop where he also wrote his comic strip. I think he was there almost 25 years. It probably cost $400 a month, if that.

I still can't figure out why anyone thought Tommy was a "big" name in the industry.

@ny_retro4971

2 жыл бұрын

On his own bio he put "legend". 🤣

Just waiting for when the former employees will start to speak up!

@FrogTony

2 жыл бұрын

Im on it!

@uneducatedgamer8881

2 жыл бұрын

What do you mean former employees? They are still at the company.

@TheCommanderTaco

2 жыл бұрын

@@uneducatedgamer8881 remember they announced they had let go of a significant number of staff which is why they were falling behind on refunds. Also with the company going under ( most likely) then any NDA between them and developers would be null, so we may in time hear more about how the console ( this was developers consoles which should have more functionality and power then what consumers would get) was in an unfinished state.

First video you said… “I like Tommy and am giving him the benefit of the doubt” “I think the intention is good” “Tommy is a smart guy obviously” You were very generous early on while making it known you just didn’t see a market for Amico. The closest comparison made to the Chameleon was wondering what developer would hamstring themselves by getting into the Amico’s development environment.

I've asked you to simply make it smaller." "Ok, sir, that's what we're trying to do, but honestly, it's impossible." "Mike Kennedy was able to build the coleco chameleon in a cave! With a box of scraps!"

@TheCommanderTaco

2 жыл бұрын

Tommy: I hate playing mobile games because Cell phones make such terrible controllers. Hey engineer make the controller look like this. Engineer: but sure that is just a smart phone.

This should shock nobody regarding Atari Age and their protection of the scammer. I got off their forums years ago because it was evident that Albert had his chosen few who could abuse others and if you spoke up you got banned. They get what's coming to them.

Ian's sticker shock when Pat says the yearly amount for that space was about the same face I made.

For perspective Gaterooze, who made those 1-day challenge mock ups of Intellivision games like Hater Hater, has likely made more money on sales of his Ampersat game on the Nintendo Switch, than any developer has made on the Intellivision Amico. All within the time period the Amico was *supposed* to be out and selling.

I still want a compilation of all of "Tommy's" calls into the show.

5 bays? For what? I used to work for a fastner company that did millions in revenue a year and are warehouse only had 2 bays for shipping and receiving. Tommy really just wanted a steam/google compound to live out his big boy ceo fantasy. What a silly little man.

@lasskinn474

2 жыл бұрын

it was rented from the cfo or something. that explains a lot.

Ian, don't forget that Roid-head Retrobro also did what SmashJT did

I know journalism isn't the primary focus of your channel but you and Ian really went above and beyond to cover the Amico's inevitable decline. Pretty much all of your predictions came true even when other news sources gave him the benefit of the doubt. I've watched your series and your assessment started as hopeful optimism, which your nay-sayers conveniently ignore. It's only when you expressed some small doubts and not even full-on criticism that Tommy showed his true colours. I've seen and enjoyed Video Games Live in person but now I don't see him in the same light; had he behaved decently, I would have sympathy for his situation. His actions have convinced me that this man is unhinged. I would be very interested to hear the accounts of his former employees once the dust settles.

I was depressed by the fact that CHiPs is no-longer available to watch on free-to-air television over here anymore, but this news has perked me up.

@madjoe8622

2 жыл бұрын

Damn, Chips, I haven't hear about that in a long time. I remember watching that when I was 6 years old lol.

@liverush24

2 жыл бұрын

@@madjoe8622 It's a nostalgia vibe, for sure.

@juicyfruit6311

2 жыл бұрын

That Skating with the Stars episode with all those celebrities was a hoot!

@liverush24

2 жыл бұрын

@@juicyfruit6311 Oh man. "George Peppard... Todd Bridges..." Ridiculous, but awesome.

@PatTheNESpunk

2 жыл бұрын

CHIPs was a Summer watch during the day for me as child.

Still hard to believe for the amount of crap Ouya went through, that it was one of those pie-in-the-sky concepts that actually made it to retail. With the right skills, you can still utilize that console today and continue to get your money's worth. Not too late to kickstart the Fairchild Channel "CU" in limited edition piss yellow.

@VOAN

2 жыл бұрын

Both the Ouya and Atari VCS, two consoles people shit on actually made it to market but the Intellivision Amico and Coleco Chameleon never made it. Know that Ouya is part of Razer now and Atari is back to making games again. Where did Coleco and Intellivision now, back to nothing. Both are still irrelevant.

@lasskinn474

2 жыл бұрын

no the next big thing is going to be a LASER VECTREX VR HEADSOLE (headset console). it'll look like a big clown boot and fit on your head and have lasers directly into your eyes.

@lasskinn474

2 жыл бұрын

@Why The Hell Was I In Star Trek 6? Only if you ignored tommys first press releases about vapor hw chips.

The Amico documentary should just be all the CUPodcast coverage strung together.

@arcadenoah993

8 ай бұрын

Slope's one is good, he deserved his redemption arc, although he still gives Tommy too much credit

@YETTheShow

8 ай бұрын

@@arcadenoah993 yeah I watched it… it’s pretty good. Still room for an ending in a year or so.

When I saw the picture of the office with the teal cubicles and all the tables out front I was like that seems like a lot of space for this company of like 8 people. Then there was another picture, and another, and another, and another, then the $20,000 kitchen. I can't wait to see the financials when this goes to court, Tommy better hope he kept his receipts.

@XanthinZarda

2 жыл бұрын

Don't worry. Even if Tommy's been flushing the receipts , the SEC has been keeping a watchful eye on every mistake he's made.

The only places I've worked for that had 5+ bays for loading/unloading were actual warehouses (Payless Shoes HQ and a fireworks importer, respectively). That kind of access at an OFFICE SPACE is ridiculous.

@devilmikey00

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's an insane detail if you've ever worked in a warehouse before. I worked at a fastener place for a few years and they liked to brag at Christmas parties how they made millions in revenue (no reason to doubt, place was busy) and their warehouse only had TWO bays for shipping and receiving. I'm guessing this office space was converted from a huge warehouse. Just looking at the pictures you can tell this wasn't meant to be an office space. It's got industrial venting and just look at those blue office cubicle things. They look like they just popped those down in the middle of a warehouse space then threw up some tables to make it look less empty.

@XanthinZarda

2 жыл бұрын

@@devilmikey00 As someone who visited Dell plants in the 90s, I don't know how many shipping bays they had at the time, but it hits all the marks of being a _factory_ space, not an office space. You'd be lucky to have time to sit down. The Breaker Plants and Metric 12 looked remarkably like this. Except where all those glass doors were, I imagine that's where anyone who knew what they were doing would put down the machinery, instead of doors.

@ELSTERLING

2 жыл бұрын

Totally. As a teenager I worked in a warehouse sized grocery store that, IIRC, had five bays and they did hundreds of thousands of pounds in small transactions per day.

@DarkLiger

Жыл бұрын

I've worked in inventory control for a major company for 17yrs now. Never have any of the locations I've worked in had more than 2 bays. Outside of one of our distribution centers, I doubt any location does. Five bays just blows my mind. Did Tommy really think they would be shipping out THAT many Amicos? Is that arrogance or stupidity? Or maybe he just wanted an excuse to go zipping around on a forklift. He seems like the type.

It's only fitting that the amico looks like a late 90s dot com company. From the way they have oversize offices, oversize staff, egomaniac CEO, down to the overhyped product. This fits with a man that peaked in the 90s.

I think they just pulled everything out of the offices to do a deep cleaning and prepare for the Amico 2

I think he thought everyone was gonna be so excited to work with the legendary Tommy Tallarico that they were going to line up to work on his project. Developers, retailers, distribution companies, production companies, etc, etc. When it didn't happen, there was no plan B and the money was GONE.

Fellow San Diego resident here, well Del Mar, but love you guys and thanks for doing what you do. 👍

Love the fire in these guys. They've been on the right side of this fucking disaster the whole time.

Remember when just hearing the word Intellivision brought feelings of joyful nostalgia. Games like Night Stalker, Shark Shark, Utopia, Burger time instantly came to mind and made me smile. Thanks, Tommy for destroying all that and dragging the name of Intellivision through the mud with your worthless Amico!

@XanthinZarda

2 жыл бұрын

And then there's people like me, who were born after the death knell of the Amico, who now associate Inellivision purely with being a stinker. Night Stalker? Better call for help!

Always appreciate your reporting about this.✊

John Riggs: *Crickets*

@chuckgreen9376

2 жыл бұрын

C’mon he’s a nice guy. He didn’t totally F up did he?

@TRJ2241987

2 жыл бұрын

lol

@Rando1975

2 жыл бұрын

@@chuckgreen9376 he was a hardcore Amico supporter. Till he deleted or made private his sarcastic "10 reasons NOT buy an Intellivision Amico" video.

@chuckgreen9376

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rando1975 ok. I don’t watch all of his content. I don’t have a problem with him believing in it so long as he didn’t trash the doubters.

Luna Video Games has 2 locations, the only difference is both of their locations are actually successful.

Man that’s a big office for a company that couldn’t even fill positions needed to get their product working properly

Retro Bro has completely rebranded, and removed his "I'm the "Hey Pat and Ian, F--- YOU!" guy!" off of his Twitter account.

Me seeking an update on Intellivision about a year ago brought me to this KZread page. So Pat and Ian can thank Tommy for a consistent listener :)

Fwiw, those glass stickers are required by code so people don't walk into the glass, and making the vinyl decals Amico running man shaped would add maybe $.20 each compared to round or square, at most. ;)

I haven't really followed this but I heard some clip where Tommy said people were "gaming racists" for not liking his console and I don't know how anyone took him seriously from that point on.

@heisensaul5538

2 жыл бұрын

He also said "If you're into games with blood and violence and sexual content and kids in sexually compromising positions and rape!!!! Then the Switch is for you." But yet he also said he was friends with Shigeru Miyamoto, which is it Tommy is the Switch the poster child for everything perverted or are you friends with Miyamoto?

"I've scraped better shit off my shoe's" LMAO gotta love Ian and Pat stating facts. You guys were both right all along. 👍🤙

Tommy named this thing Amico, likely not that much because it means friend, but more because it rhymes with Tallarico and boosted his ego. Why Amico at all if it's all about the Intellivision? His first big error. He then set about making enemies of anyone who criticised his flawed dream, throwing around the r word at Pat and Ian at a highly sensitive time, when if taken out of context, could have got Pat and Ian into some serious trouble via false accusation. He then left a sinking ship early with others attempting to pick up his mess, a bad captain from day one.

@TheCommanderTaco

2 жыл бұрын

@Marc Carran don't remember about that if that was why he quit. Do remember his initial release date for the console was because he wanted to release it on the anniversary of his sister's birthday ( something like that) who had passed away. I always state this, but as much of a jerk as it makes me feel to say that was a mistake he made right there as there was no business reason for that date. Would have made more sense to push it back a bit seeing as December was pretty close or summer when families would get together. The day he originally planned would have no reason to boost his sales.

It has been fascinating watching this unfold. I still remember people calling Tommy a legend. When I looked up his work, all I saw were games I don't remember for their music. I know he did some memorable soundtracks, but I didn't play those games back in the 90s.

@weirdotzero7065

2 жыл бұрын

The only game in my catelog he did the score for that I remember from my childhood was Scooby-Doo: Night of a 100 Frights. Were all the memorable music was either taken from the shows... OR ripped off from The Monkees.

@Gamesta100

2 жыл бұрын

I love his music on a PS1 game called Wild 9.

@devilmikey00

2 жыл бұрын

Tommy's just good at marketing himself. He's not a "legend". The only games he worked on that were anything close to classics are the two earthworm jim games. Everything else is just a random assortment, the type of back catalog a workmen like composer/musician would have. There are tons of guys like tommy who have a prolific back catalog who more or less anonymous because they showed up, did their jobs and moved on to the next gig. If working within your field regularly makes you a legend then god damn, we are all legends.

@XanthinZarda

2 жыл бұрын

Tommy coasted a lot on his personality as a 90s bad boy. Which meant he was an echo of a long dead cultural relic, the 70s bad boy, which was nothing but a knockoff of the 50s Cool Guy. The thing is, personality means nothing when nobody can remember who you are. I can name actual composers from the era, and there's a good chance a song starts playing: David Wise, Tim Follin, Alexander "Siren" Brandon, Allister Brimble, Rob Hubbard, Soyo Oka, Nobuo Uematsu, and so on. I think of Tommy, I think of _Color a Dinosaur,_ a Z grade game that _came out after Mario Paint, and had less features than a box of physical crayons._

No offices, money or workers left, tommy is submerged in the web BUT you can still preorder the amico on the amazon germany page.... hope never dies

AtariAge’s unwritten forum policy regarding the Amico reminds of another forum, AVSForum, that got real cozy with a certain group during the HD-DVD and Blu-ray format war. A little context first, prior to either formats’ release they tried to avoid a format war. Sony had locked up a lot of licensing deals and studio support for software. The war was basically over before either launched then Microsoft decided to try to kill both formats so HD content would only be available over the net. So they backed the underdog Toshiba HD DVD format to create confusion and hopefully cause a DVD-Audio/Super Audio CD situation where neither format established a foothold and both languished for a few years before dying. AVSForum was pretty neutral prior to MS entering the picture and it was assumed that it was Blu-ray’s fight to lose. It was announced the PS3 would support Blu-ray playback. Once MS entered the fray, and helped HD-DVD get some additional studio support Blu-ray’s win wasn’t so certain. About the time of HD-DVD’s launch in April ‘06, AVSForum welcomed a user named Amir, a Microsoft employee with the title of HD DVD Evangelist (seriously). He was given administrative rights that most users didn’t have. I was treated fairly until I said I went with a PS3 and I justified my reasons. Amir and his minions on that site basically attacked anyone that questioned HD DVD’s abilities or decided to go with the format that had more long term potential for delivering more. The owners of the Forum at the time got real cozy with him. HD DVD fans could blatantly attack Blu-Ray supporters. Posts that pointed out HD-DVD’s shortcomings would disappear as quickly as they were posted all while the forum admins claimed they were format neutral. Finally on the eve of CES 2008 Toshiba pulled the plug on the format, Amir slipped away quietly while the minions that fell for Amir and his teams BS were trying to justify why HD-DVD could still succeed over the next few months. They finally gave up the ghost when the last HD-DVD studio announced they would release on Blu-ray. Funnily enough all those archives from AVSForum during the format war disappeared shortly after it ended. I think the forum owners were embarrassed by the whole incident and they couldn’t handle the people that were happy to see HD-DVD fail after the way they had been treated by Amir and his cronies.

This has been such a rollercoaster hahahahaha! I am so happy I was here from the beginning of this journey hahahhaa!

"I'm suprised!!!" *-said no one.*

Cmon Pat, Victory lap. Its time to start the victory lap

im so glad you guys informed us!!! I was able to cancel mine months ago and actually get my money back

Pat's quote about "Amico = Coleco Chameleon --> Rating!" is remembered by multiple people. The problem is that it actually comes from a SmashJT video that twisted the real words. The video got dug up and the AtariAge folks who thought Pat said the 'quote' finally realized and admitted their mistake. (see comment #169 on the AtariAge thread).

@davidlevy706

2 жыл бұрын

And now the video has been privated.

Pats looking like a disappointed parent

It's about damn time Pat and Ian got their due. They were reasonable and criticized the Amico when it earned it. Frankly I am surprised they got defended. I honestly never thought Atari age would wake up and give Pat and Ian kudos for calling out a fraud when far too many didn't want to see it. I think that victory lap video needs to come out soon. These bad actors who did end up helping Intellivision and Tommy Tallarico scam millions of dollars out of folks need to have their collective feet held to the fire for all of the BS they pulled on people and for being blatant marks. Both Pat and Ian were incredibly lenient, at the beginning of this whole fiasco. The closure of that stupidly expensive office for a startup demonstrates how far they had put the cart in front of the proverbial horse. After seeing the pathetic way Gaming's Fyre Fest/Theranos/WeWork is ending I think everyone involved in this must be called on the carpet. They all need to be put on blast. Keep up the great work Pat and Ian, as far as I'm concerned you two have proven to have impeccable judgment when it comes to topics like this.

I really wanted to own one of these having one as a child. Loved Night Stalker and Tron games. Shame really for the name to go out like that. Especially with the previous owner being so attached to it and trying to make something of it until his passing.

Hey thanks for the call out. I tried reporting how some of the behavior was but no one really wanted to listen. In fact they just bought into Tommy's BS. It's sad that I pointed out on AA how his behavior was making AA look bad. Unfortunately, I was right, as many do look at this as a mark against AA. I do think there are a bunch of cool things going on there and the homebrewers are making some great things for old consoles. So it's not all bad.

@teletrong1

2 жыл бұрын

I felt bad watching you get piled on in Atari Age MrBeefy

@BeefyBites

2 жыл бұрын

@@teletrong1 What is funny is I wanted it to be successful too. I knew given time most of my concerns would prove to probably be accurate. If not then it would be cool for there to be another successful console out there. I like how the mod thought my wife thinking the $220 price being too high was made up. 😂

@lasskinn474

2 жыл бұрын

tommy started with his obvious lies with his 1 mil sprites custom chip bs. whats worse as the thing went on the earlier bs was just proven to have been bs and the faithful were just like "that's just how a business works". the biggest things early things which proved tommy was a bs artist: the hw talk about a chip that never existed and saying not going crowdfunding and then going for multiple types of crowdfunding.

@BeefyBites

2 жыл бұрын

@@lasskinn474 There are two many red flags to count for sure.

@XanthinZarda

2 жыл бұрын

Atariage is going to have to bleach their underpants or give a massive mea culpa on the front page to earn their reputation back the hard way.

"stop...stop... He's already ded!" -Ralph Wiggam

I looked at the listing and did the math. If they rented all 28,000 sq feet, they were paying $600,000+ in rent every year.

Only thing I gotta point out on this is Uline sends multiple copies of the same catalogue to my office on the monthly! (I usually get 2 - 3 delivered at a time). So it's possible the multiples were just par for the course as they will hunt you down past death with their catalogues. Otherwise, 1000% spot on!

9:25 Wow! they clearly spend their money on a huge office that's like a big mistake to start up a small company on Intellivision Amico. Just wow that's really pathetic the whole office is empty out.🤦‍♂️

I’ve priced office space in OC off-and-on since 2010 and unless this place is on top off a toxic waste pit, 220K/yr for a luxury studio of that size with a crazy number of parking spots/bays is mighty low… not to mention the other never-ending costs that come with occupying a business suite. These guys were done before they started. Edit: The listing for this space shows it at 28,550 sq-ft for $22/yr per sq-ft. That’s just over $628K/yr (not 220K/yr). Yikes.

@teletrong1

2 жыл бұрын

Are utilities usually included?

@TheLadsBandLive

2 жыл бұрын

@@teletrong1 Usually but Orange County has "after core-hours and weekend" utility costs, cleaning crew, office supplies, stocked food/beverages and team meals, just to name a few additional costs.

@XanthinZarda

2 жыл бұрын

Over half a million dollars, per year for an industrial space, for _this._ Plus the _plethora of rented/leased equipment_ [Including an industrial testing machine], boatloads of absurdly worthless decoration, paint, costs to move some of Tommy's Tchotchke's into the facility, and you wonder how he didn't get a probe from the local banks asking him what the hell he was doing with that kind of cash.

@teletrong1

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheLadsBandLive thank you for your expert opinion on this aspect

@teletrong1

2 жыл бұрын

@@XanthinZarda are you saying the amount everyone is guessing at 50k USD a month to be under or over estimating?

Carrying a lot of anger on this lads. You were right the whole time about the whole thing. Sleep well on that fact.

@dennett316

2 жыл бұрын

I'd be angry too if people were still spouting nonsense about shit I didn't say.

@richterbelmont2

2 жыл бұрын

Tommy and co got personal with Pat and Ian. They have every right to be angry at the situation.

@mikewhoelse

2 жыл бұрын

The guy saying all this stuff has zero credibility though. He's a crank with a failed business. Pat's pins that he sells on his website is a more successful business that actually functions.

I wish we could get Amico closure. I’m ready for this to finally end. Thank you for all the coverage guys!

when pat looks at the screen nodding about people giving them sh*t for amico. i choked on my drink!

This is one of my favorite amico segments in a while.

Not sure if i'm in the right place. I was told to come here. Will someone here refund my Amico pre-order money?

@DiscoScottie

2 жыл бұрын

Sure. I'll get right on that for you.

@TheCommanderTaco

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry we just let go of the last customer service employee. Please feel free to send regards to...

@ThePerspectionist

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheCommanderTaco you let DiscoScottie go? I'm sorry to hear that. He was just about to refund my Amico Pre-Order money. Who should I talk to now?

It all would have worked perfectly if they just added a few more LED lights to the console.

The worst part about this journey is the friends we lost along the way. I used to like both RTU and Tommy Tallerico (as a composer), but this left a bad taste in my mouth.

My god I love Pat and Ian. I made an audible 'gasp!' When I read this video title hahaha

Just imagine how much fun they had sitting in their offices surfing the net and shopping, waiting to all get together to go to lunch on the company time, so they could get back and catch a little nap before heading home. lololol

@XanthinZarda

2 жыл бұрын

Or gathering around Mr. Alvarado's computer and watching what hateful thing he'll post next to piss off "SJWs".

Surely this just means that the amiico is ready to launch yeah?? 🤣🤣🤣

@TheCommanderTaco

2 жыл бұрын

Announcing Intellivision Amico: Polium edition. Now your games are truly minted. Lol.

@paulrr5711

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they're moving to even bigger offices with 20 bays!

11:20 Actually I saw slopes gaming rooms documentary and they opened the total of four offices, one in Germany and one in Dubai as well which is ridiculous.

For me Ian’s double bird was interrupted by a comercial and it was awesome. Ian is the man!

Any links to the KZreadrs name that won't be mentioned?

Even if you said that, which you didn't, it ultimately doesn't matter. You didn't personally turn this into a scam. This is all Tommy Tallerico's fault. He didn't have to act the way he did.

I remember how the Amico stuff on AtariAge started with Tommy in the Atari VCS thread. It spiralled out of control so fast that he was asked to make his own Amico containment thread... and then it went south from there. I do think some people don't want to say "Pat and Ian were right about this" because they disagree on other things you two have to say. I don't agree on a lot of things you two say, especially Ian's political talk, and I'd frankly rather not hear that sort of stuff anyway, but I can acknowledge when you're right. Also, I was absolutely in the camp from the get-go where I didn't think it would succeed but still hoped it would and was keen to buy an Amico regardless because I thought it could be a bit of fun. That's just not how it turned out.

I'm just glad this farce is done and dusted. Sorry to anyone who got screwed on this. It's sad that the LEAST scammy of these things has been the fucking Atari "VCS", and that was a scam too. Pie in the sky "modern retro" consoles don't work, they just don't. You can't just start or restart a company and create a new game console out of nothing and expect the world to beat a path to your door-it's just not that simple. Hopefully everyone now realizes just how much that just does not work. Hopefully that can now just be understood and we can stop trying to reinvent the same square wheel over and over again.

@MicklowFilms

2 жыл бұрын

The VCS actually released and turned out decent so how is it a scam? Atari continues to support it with new games and content. The Recharged games are phenomenal. Just shut up already.

Dont ever stop guys the retro gaming world needs you, keep calling these scammers out

"Cosplaying as a CEO"... Love that line!!!

So 2/5 offices are closed now. I wonder when the other 3 will be confirmed to be closed

How can we see this unedited BombSquad video???

The only people who actually even insinuated Pat and Ian "hoped it's like the chameleon" were the amico cult themselves. When people have to lie to detract from what you are saying, chances are you have a point lol.

The assembly line actors pretending to box the games were the only people hired, who actually came closest to doing anything resembling work in the company

@F1JV

2 жыл бұрын

Even I will give Todd & Slade their due…they were the Design & System Engineers for the project. They did give us the shell & “something” maybe inside that “might” have worked “if” actually manufactured…maybe.

@F1JV

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah and those godawful nostalgia controllers based on arguably the worst controller ever produced…Mattel’s Intellivision controller. 🙄🤢🤮🤢🙄

@lasskinn474

2 жыл бұрын

they did box the games though didn't they? it wasn't intellivision employees though? the making of the boxes and stuff was bought from some german company. you can just buy production like that for pretty cheap.

Pat, your shirt is freaking awsome, where did you get it from?

Wait that physical product that will never be released isn't a stake in the company?! I can't astroblast my way to profits?!

I actually thought this would be better than the VCS now I don't want it to come out anymore. What's the point of releasing a console that looks like a cordless phone charging station?

@uneducatedgamer8881

2 жыл бұрын

This will be even better than the VCS.

@VOAN

2 жыл бұрын

@@uneducatedgamer8881 But the VCS had Tempest 4000 and over 200 free games.

@lasskinn474

2 жыл бұрын

@@VOAN vcs has better hardware and an open os, making it infinitely more usable to play decent games.

So, any guesses on when the rights to the name and old IP go on sale and for how much?

As much as I'm happy this is finally coming to an end, I still feel really terrible for all the people who got scammed. I especially sympathize for the people who noticed months ago but still haven't been able to get refunded.

@TheCommanderTaco

2 жыл бұрын

I mean live and let learn sadly. Time to see if anyone is desperate enough to fund the Polium one next.

@Tetrodome

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheCommanderTaco its NFT. It'll get more than enough suckers

@zimmy4868

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t really feel bad for anybody at this point. There was more than enough evidence that this was a scam. At this point if you were still out of money, it’s your fault.

@TheCommanderTaco

2 жыл бұрын

@@zimmy4868 not so much the diehard fans, but more the old people who don't know the market but are knowledgeable enough to know how to use investing sites and only invested because they recognized a name from their childhood. I Feel just a little bad for them lol.

@zimmy4868

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheCommanderTaco Sure, but anyone “investing” in anything should do their do diligence and make an educated decision to put down money on something. Investigate the backgrounds on the companies and individuals that are developing the product. With investing there are always winners and losers…

Would like for Ian to have more time to give his thoughts on the amico. I feel Pat tries to takeover this topic, even talking over Ian. I also think that Tallarico and the top brass had some money exchange so that Tallarico can do whatever he wants there.

Wow, talk about the epitome of the emperor having no clothes! This whole Amico thing was a farce!

You talking about SmashJT as the person who lives a half hour north?

I’ve been defending you guys on AA all along. I even brought up the fact Tommy was lying through this teeth and had my post locked from further comment. In the end the Amico section was deleted and I felt VERY vindicated.

That empty intelivision office picture is a meme. 🤣

I'm starting to think that Tallarico didn't realize he was being made fun of his ego on Mega 64's Gamer Warz series despite him basically starring on it and them blatantly joking about Tommy's ego on it

"Wouldn't that be something" -- a fitting title for the victory lap video.

@XanthinZarda

2 жыл бұрын

A detailed two hour breakdown of every statement/thing Tommy promised and the resultant fate.

“Wouldn’t that be something” will go down in history along side Todd Howard’s “It just works”

Here's to the Qualifying Lap. Almost there, everyone.

Kind of sad to see to retro properties like coleco and intellivision fail so spectacularly.

9:12 Ian impression #1

@Aeonova

2 жыл бұрын

15:20 Ian impression #2

The Intellivision office reminds me of the second to last and final season of Silicon Valley. I BET that's what it was like there, except without all the productivity. LOL