What do you think about the auctions? Do you think any are fairly priced? Will any be bid on? SNES Dev kit auction here: bid.vegalleries.com/Super-NES-Emulator-SE-Developer-Kit_i46346793

@XanthinZarda

Жыл бұрын

It is my only hope that Nintendo snaps the Devkit auction out of existence. One thing to _have_ a devkit though _atypical means,_ another to turn and sell their property.

@ashers9680

Жыл бұрын

Honestly the Spider-Man collection is probably in the ball park of reasonable with a AF 1 7.0 restored and an ASM 1 restored 6.5 for 200k. Seems a little on the high side, but not 4x overvalued like the consoles. If someone paid that price, I wouldn't call them a sucker at least. The other books pictured are much lower valued, to the point of why even include them. You could probably get CGC 9.8 grades of all the other books shown for a combined 1000.00 ish, and that's with most of the value being carried by Spectacular 1. (My big collections are comics, N64, and PS2 games, so that's why I'm always in your comments talking about comparisons to comics.)

@IkeFoxbrush

Жыл бұрын

I've seen overprized items on ebay and elsewhere and the reasoning behind that puzzled me for quite some time until I figured it out. It's typically from sellers who aren't sure what market value their listings have and try to approach that value from above by relisting them and gradually lowering the starting price each time. For buy-it-now items this is akin to a Dutch auction style. It's also an easy way to garner attention for rare items, especially on Ebay where you can add items to your watchlist and see when they are relisted. Of course there is also a chance that someone will buy it above market value, especially when your listing is the only one available. In short, overpricing rare and not so common items can be a reasonable strategy if you are in no hurry to sell and are not paying any auction fees.

@IkeFoxbrush

Жыл бұрын

@@XanthinZarda I am not a lawyer, but I would suspect that after such a long time that Nintendo didn't ask to get their property back it now belongs to however has it in their possession.

@TheCommanderTaco

Жыл бұрын

The prices seem outrageous, but then again I am not really into the retro game market as it has turned to expensive for me lol. I feel like as you'll stated it is either Tommy desperately needing cash ( maybe for all the Amico refunds lol) or it's the auction house not knowing what to set prices at since apparently all they really handle is "art". I mean just for some pieces of art ( not saying all) that really don't mean or say anything people are used to throwing around hundreds of thousands of dollars ( watch Critikal's videos on art if you don't believe me), so I am also leaning on them taking that approach with video games. Like you reported on before this is apart of the disaster that happens when you have people from another market enter into one they are unfamiliar with.

Tommy having the Odyssey 2 signed by Ralph Baer is an autographed picture of Sean Connery signed by Roger Moore level of hilarious

@JamesBond-vi2eh

9 ай бұрын

two great bonds please dont compare greatness to trash LOL

Hey Pat, I am a pong clone collector. I am here to confirm that they do indeed exist. 😁 When it comes to the auction price of $2K, I wouldn't bid. The most I would be willing to pay would be about $300 if I didn't already have the Nation Semiconductor Adversary, the boxed DMS Tele-Action Mini, and boxed Bentley Compu-Vision. I have never paid more than $50 for a pong (CIB by the way) and, in my experience, most stores don't even take them in because they can't sell them for much. You've actually met me at a couple of conventions this year but pongs never came up in the conversation.....The Amico did though. 😉

His overvaluation of those Pong consoles says everything about where he saw the value of the Intellivison brand

I will never tire of this stuff...Tommy is a cartoon character.

This is why you guys keep being the only one true reliable and relevant Amico coverage, because you don't make stuff up, you report on facts and in a very professional way, other imitate and envy your success and relevancy while you just do what you do best and what you do best is a joy to watch, keep it up.

Hey at least he's trying to sell an actual product now. Give him some credit

@trailersic

Жыл бұрын

I would say "Is he going to deliver any consoles though?" But I guess that's the auction house's job.

@jengelenm

Жыл бұрын

LMAO

@AnarchyDragon6

Жыл бұрын

I'll give him credit IF and ONLY IF he uses the money to give refunds to the Amico crowd; The poor schlubs who were promised they could get their money back at any time.

@trailersic

Жыл бұрын

@@AnarchyDragon6 Laughter Emoji

@tomgann9383

Жыл бұрын

OOOF!

In late 2020, the highest graded Amazing Fantasy #15 a cgc 9.8 restored sold for $42,200. That is what a 5.5 unrestored was worth at the time, while 9.2 unrestored was worth nearly $600,000. Restoring comics may improve their looks, but it does nothing to help their value .

In a video called "Tommy Tallarico’s INSANE Video Game MANSION..." you can see him showing off some boxed Famicom hardware, and at 1:28 you can see a ROB with a long ding in the upper left, and the lower left corner folded up a bit, and it exactly matches the one in the Famicom lot listing. He also has an Atari 2600 4 Switcher with the On/Off switch missing visible in that video, and the Atari lot has a 4 Switcher with the On/Off switch missing. So yeah, this is his stuff lol.

That's probably the refurbished Twin Famicom AN505-BK I sold to Tommy a few years ago on eBay. I was shocked to see his name and had a nice little chat with him about the Amico. This was while things were still looking positive for the Amico....

@trailersic

Жыл бұрын

so 2018?

@CollectingRetro

Жыл бұрын

@@trailersic Yeah, somewhere around there. Late 2018 or early 2019. eBay doesn't archive too far back unfortunately. Cheap "junk" Twin Famicom were abundant at the time through Yahoo Japan and I would import them through a proxy service. All systems were cleaned up, had a new belt installed, and carefully aligned. Occasionally had to pull out the soldering iron, but not too often. I added up my belt purchases one time and I installed somewhere around 100 of them! It was a nice little side business for a while.

Just waiting for the “rare” Intellivision Amico prototypes to show up. 😂😂😂

Why doesn't Mad Dog buy this collection up? According to his KZread video, he is the definitive source on video game collecting.

@bluedistortions

Жыл бұрын

Funniest of all is he appears to have abandoned video games altogether and now he's hocking movie posters

But Tommy touched those boxes! Surely that has to be worth something!

@retrogamestudios6688

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure he's being hunted by a mob of debtors

@gogoarcade

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@MasterZebulin

Жыл бұрын

@@retrogamestudios6688 Shoot him!

@TheCommanderTaco

Жыл бұрын

Was thinking the same. As Pat said he would be shocked if anyone put a bid on the Pong consoles. I thought sadly since you have reported it is most likely Tommy's you know one of his cultists with more money then they know what to do with ( or not know how to properly manage) will place a bid at the premium.

@DarkLiger

Жыл бұрын

Some disinfectant maybe.

hey man, I used to watch you two in 2013 when I was 13, and now that I'm 22 I'm glad you're still around. I've gotten back into the old video games hobby and it does me a lot of nostalgia that you're still kicking it. Wish you very well, and hope you keep making content. Thank you for all the years of nostalgia.

Tommy should put his signature on these items and sell it to the Amico shills.

@XanthinZarda

Жыл бұрын

I don't think most of the shills have two dollars, much less two 2000$ to rub together at this point.

So what does the Intellivision Amico and Coleco Chameleon had in common now? They both got supported by Phil Adam, both never got released, and both ended with the Super NES in some way. In this case with the Amico it ends with Tommy selling his Super NES dev kit whereas the Coleco Chameleon ended becoming a Super NES Jr. in a Jaguar shell.

Tommy ruined his reputation to the point that he can no longer openly walk around on the floor of a gaming convention to buy/sell/trade, in the same way that you could run into him before the whole amico fiasco... His collecting ability has been vastly limited now, so he is divesting instead.

Is anyone surprised Tommy is overvaluing this stuff? That sounds very in character tbh!

@MasterZebulin

Жыл бұрын

He's overvaluing his life, IMO.

@midimusicforever

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly.

@mrdownboy

Жыл бұрын

@@MasterZebulin What do you mean?, he was a boy scout, lol! PS I was one too, but I don't include that on my resume, ffs.

@lasskinn474

Жыл бұрын

@@mrdownboy fantasy baseball hall of famer. and fantasy football doesn't refer to some sort of a game of speculating on baseball teams or something in that.

@mrdownboy

Жыл бұрын

@@lasskinn474 Agreed, Tommy Tallarico is a joke.

I’m so glad I got out of collecting & sold everything. The drama, scamming & artificial game prices, I don’t miss any of it. Go go raspberry Pi!

@shawnwax9576

Жыл бұрын

Same. I walked into a shop one day..picked up castlevania sotn on ps greatest hita version mind you...when i asked how much and buddy said $135 ....I stood there for a second motionless. Then went home and sold every piece of retro shit i had and downloaded sotn on my ps classic i paid $30 for.. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️😏😏😏 never looked back.

@mccarseat

Жыл бұрын

I’m slowing going that route. Keeping the stuff I got as a kid, but selling off everything i started collecting in the early 2000’s up until a few years ago. The MiSTer has slowly replaced each system and game. I always “collected to play” so now I don’t need the systems or physical games to play anymore.

@Letstalkabouthorrormovies

Жыл бұрын

Same

Tommy: "I love gaming. I'm for gaming. I'm not a gaming racist like Pat & Ian." Also Tommy: "Nobody wants my fake console so screw you all I'm selling all my videos games."

I heard RetroBro is selling his hypodermic needle collection too.

First thing for sale should be the Ferrari

GameStop; we'll give you $30 for everything Tommy!

@shenanitims4006

Жыл бұрын

Hey, $35 store credit!

@adam8coles2008

Жыл бұрын

🤣

How much is the current bid for Broken Promises? Also looking to pick up a few extra lies and falsehoods.

@MasterZebulin

Жыл бұрын

Bid for a totally legal assassination?

Don't worry, it will just take two years for Tommy to have everything back!

@dracovania

Жыл бұрын

Underrated comment xD

Nah this sounds like insurance fraud, Next week everything listed is gonna be lost in a house fire

Smoke is coming out of Tommy's ears as he watches this. 👂 💨

Should’ve just sold an Intellivision mini with built in games. I would’ve bought it.

From my investigating it looks like in the past that this auction house has sold many extremely over priced Disney props to people with way too much money. I think Tommy is hoping to con... I mean bless these same folks for an opportunity to over spend on his video game collection. Tommy knows full well that his stuff isn't worth that much, he's just hoping that he can trick more gullible people into buying his j unk. I also suspect that this is the same place where Tommy has blown a large amount of money on buying all of his "treasures" that he keeps in his hoarded house.

@thingsyoudontseeeverydaywi3471

Жыл бұрын

you were ALL over this lol

@MTG69

Жыл бұрын

Tell us how you really feel.....

@JetScreamer_YT

Жыл бұрын

For a guy that is in the video game business, it is flagrantly overpriced. I expect people to try to get too much money from an old Atari because they don't know any better. They overestimate the rarity. Even if this stuff were a little more affordable, I don't believe in the integrity of the seller.

@lasskinn474

Жыл бұрын

the choice of auction house would make sense if it's the same tommy bought stuff from

@therealavolpe

Жыл бұрын

Ninja Píggy the Cop, doing his investigations..!! 👮🚨🐷👮🚨🐷👮🚨🐷

Having come to know about this Tommy Tallarico character through the whole Intellivision Amico saga, if he had some influence over the starting bid prices of these items, I would absolutely not put it past him to have placed a premium on these items on the basis of *his* ownership of them. The only item I really see his ownership having any kinda effect with is the SNES Devkit, given his work, but I fail to see how it's relevant at all for most of the other stuff.

I'm not a collector anymore, but even I know that these prices are ludicrous. I'd be astonished if any of these lots/items get anybody to meet the opening bid. That said, as somebody who has had to sell treasured collectibles to make ends meet, this sucks. Tommy must be hurting pretty bad.

‘Amico’ is Californian for ‘Broke’ 💸

my guess is he's getting divorced & this stuff is being sold at auction as part of the proceedings

I can't wait for the victory lap lol. When you guys review that video Tommy made about you I'm going to sit down with a snack and a beverage and savor that shit 😅

@jengelenm

Жыл бұрын

LOL that is a great video!

Gotta admit he had some restraint when posting the listings. Surprised he didn't write his name on all the stuff and charge even more because he signed it.

I am not surprised Tommy over valued these items and tbh it follows the established lunacy associated with Tommy Tallarico. What I want to know is if he's doing this to pay off loans or to gear up for a huge legal battles that could hit in the near future.

Methinks someone is using those skewed auction prices to commit fraud...

I’ll give ya bout tree fiddy.

But Pat! I'ts not just any person's collection, I'ts "Tommy Tallarico - Video game composer, worked on over 300 games, Guinness World Record holder, creator & producer of the 11 year world touring Video Games Live show, hosted & co-produced 3 video game TV shows, founder of the non-profit Game Audio Network Guild and cousin of Steven Tyler - AMA!" Collection! 🤣😂

@brendanroberts1310

Жыл бұрын

Joking aside if a item is owned by some one famous it can dramatically increase the value but I don't think Tommy would fit into that category, his cousin Steven would.

Maybe he's going to use the money to buy the Coleco trademark

Regarding the AF 15 restored 7.0: It depends on the amount of and quality of the restoration as to how much the value is diminished. I do know that many dealers will knock off up to 90% of the value of the comic if it was unrestored. I once had a 9.0 graded Showcase 23 (second Hal Jordan) with just color touch as the only restoration and it took me forever to sell it and when I did, I only got $700 for it. This is a book that at the time was worth almost $10,000 in that same grade unrestored.I would think that an AF15 7.0 with restoration (again, depending on the amount and quality) would fetch maybe $20,000. Personally, I now try to stay away from a restored comic (unless its Golden Age, as many of those tend to have some level of restoration). I would rather have an unrestored 1.8 than a restored 7.0.

You guys aren't figuring in the premium they are owned by Tommy!

After looking at his collection he has some cool historic stuff. I wouldn’t consider it a true games collection, more so an antique collection. Great video game history stuff. But i don’t know why he’s selling it. Perhaps he really needs the money. Or it reminds him of the Amico. I guess maybe he wants to part ways with his Amico dream.

So the auctions have since largely been won by a suspicious amount of pre-bids at extremely high prices by a single bidder who either was or knew Tommy. Anyone who had money laundering on their bingo sheet feel free to tick it off.

Tommy might have to call back in to school the boys on auctions! BOOM!

200k for those Spiderman comics if most are upgraded is way more than I would want to pay.

The odyssey 2 had the coolest box out of all of the odysseys and he doesn't even have that!!

Why are you two so shocked Tommy can't price anything properly? Isn't that the same dude who is trying to sell a 2016 cellphone shoved inside a footbath for like $300.00?

@XanthinZarda

Жыл бұрын

Closer to 500, but yes.

DJC will buy several of these and go into debt to do it. Like a choad.

I got a complete in box Famicom and a Disk system for $150 last year. And I got a Sharp twin Famicom in the box for $120.

@fakeshemp9599

Жыл бұрын

Holy shit. Good job on that one! 😵👍

@juliedunken1150

Жыл бұрын

@@fakeshemp9599 uhh that is just what they are worth

It's funny every odyssey I have ever come across has been in the box because of the things you put on the cart television.

@Clay3613

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I had a chance to buy one for $90 back in 2018...wish I pulled the trigger.

20k for something which normally sells for under 5k? He's full of unfossilized coprolite, I'll put it that way. There's maybe one nugget out in his collection and unfortunately, I think Tommy's too late to cash out his Spidey comics. The speculator boom ended years ago. Tommy's not Nic Cage, and I feel "celebrity" is at an all time low.

I can't imagine buying a pong console because of the devil pitchforks connectors lol

@Channel9001

Жыл бұрын

you can get a devil's pitchfork to coaxial adaptor, but it's still gonna be hard to get something like that working on TV from the last 20 years.

@linuxrobotgeek

Жыл бұрын

@@Channel9001 Yep and all my TVs are new so no chance of those consoles working on them

One reason Pong consoles don't sell at conventions is because of the hassle bringing them home if you're flying. Especially boxed.

@juliedunken1150

Жыл бұрын

Locals… so your theory is like a fly on poop

@XanthinZarda

Жыл бұрын

Plus, these are unboxed, _used_ pong consoles. They don't have a shred of collectability and most people can't even hook them up to TVs anyway. At least the Famicom/NES can connect to AV.

A game developer actually gave me a free SNES dev kit that they used, along with a prototype cart and some dev disks. I've done my best to preserve what I can.

@juliedunken1150

Жыл бұрын

Bullshyt

@Doommaster1994

Жыл бұрын

@@juliedunken1150 It's on my channel if you don't believe me. Look up the Bart's Nightmare prototype.

@retrogamestudios6688

Жыл бұрын

U tell em.....

@jbfarley

5 ай бұрын

​@@juliedunken1150idiot

Tommy set the price hi so DJC can fork over the extra money

@ezg2000

Жыл бұрын

But DJC gave all his money to the fig/republic campaign just like smash. 😂 Guess tommy can't win this one.

Dev kits have drastically increased in price and SNES dev hardware is super rare, but asking 20k is still insane.

Atari XEGS is hard to come by but but is about ~$150, 7800 is 2nd gen, worth about $150 too, the rest is very common. The whole thing is worth about $500

@juliedunken1150

Жыл бұрын

XEGS are in EBay all the time

@steveafulton

Жыл бұрын

They are, they are not super rare or anything, but also very hard to win in an auction as Atari fans like them. I've tried to get one several times, and always outbid at the last moment and "buy it nows" run about $250.

@juliedunken1150

Жыл бұрын

@@steveafulton to rich for my blood

I'm waiting to buy his 5th Element lovedoll when it goes up for auction.

@ezg2000

Жыл бұрын

Do you really want that? You know tommy had a lot of lonely nights before he was married so...😁

@poboxchristmas380

Жыл бұрын

@@ezg2000 he's probably got more lonely nights to come.

@poboxchristmas380

Жыл бұрын

@@jettesides420 to the victor, go the spoils! #multipass

Correct. Bidders in a physical auction environment who are possibly out of their element could think this looks like a box of treasures. I've seen a lot of bored eager people buy a lot of absolute junk at auctions sometimes just so they don't go home empty handed. And some of them get that hit of dopamine and don't want to know the truth and suffer buyer's remorse. There most definitely IS a sucker born every minute.

The money these auctions would make seems peanuts compared to the debt Amico made… there could be many reasons why Tommy would sell this. Maybe he wants to emotionally disconnect from retro- or even videogames in his life after the Amico fiasco, could be a divorce and his house gets sold/ no more space to store all that/ it’s collecting dust….

Trying to find the follow up to this where you look at what did and didn't sell.

The prices might be the auction house, took one look around, I found a "The Beatles Yellow Submarine Corgi" little replica thing on the site for $200+, and you can find them on eBay for $35.

I see alot of these electronics at Game Exchange for far cheaper than what Tallarico is trying to sell them for.

Personally, I'm looking forward to getting my Intellivision Amico after this latest round of funding. Look, I know they have no office and no staff, but Phil Adam said they're still working on it, so I believe in it, just like how I believe in unicorns and little green men. They're all definitely real!

I saw these items over the weekend when they were first listed (I've bid on other eaton auctions, so I'm on their mailing list) and the first thing that I thought was "how much weed was being smoked to get these prices?!?". the fact that the snes dev unit is missing everything (unless it's included but those details aren't listed) and that most of the famicom stuff isn't even new in box just blew my mind.

*Things that make you go "Hmmmm..." 🤔

It's simple, now Tommy has tráshed his reputation, he's getting out of retro gaming and cashing in..

So Pat will you help tommy and buy some of his amazing retro consoles. 😂

Hope your laptop is water proof Pat 9:53 😆

I collect on clone consoles and knock-off consoles and yes there is actually a collector's community for this. Ask for Price what I'm about to say may sound a little bit weird but I swear it's the best way I can put it. Okay so clone consoles and knockoff consoles are basically worth whatever someone's willing to pay for them however some are on the higher end of what people would be willing to pay for them. I know that makes no sense but it's the best way I could put it. For example one of the most desired pong clone consoles is one of the consoles Nintendo made and yes there were multiple everyone thinks there was just one but I have seen at least two separate councils and I guarantee you there was probably a few different variants made. And for knockoff consoles the rule is the more of a knockoff system they are the more desired they are. I know it's a weird collection but there are people like me who collect them just because it's fun. Basically even the most expensive pong clone console is not even worth close to what he's trying to sell it

Love the podcast. Since there aren't any new NES Punk vids or much FMM, can Ian get a promotion since you two have been co-hosting the podcast for about 10 years? I think he deserves to have the channel called CU Podcast or Pat and Ian. Make him a full partner!

Tommy "Games Salesman" Tallarico at it again... It's the gift that keeps on giving. How long until we see a video of "Where are they now" where we learn that Tommy ends up like the McAfee virus guy?

Tommy wasn’t making enough money after trying to monetize the Oof sound from Roblox that he, most likely, didn’t even create. Supposedly his partner on the End of Messiah project was the person who did.

I'm surprised there isn't a shitty non-functioning Amico prototype in there for $50,000

There are certain people in the game industry that easily get a 5-10x premium when they auction things. I guess Tommy is hoping for the same?

@juliedunken1150

Жыл бұрын

Nope stu, go back to your indie crap games

@XanthinZarda

Жыл бұрын

He'll be lucky to get 60% under value.

so i know Tommy didn't get that SNES kit for free, he paid 10k for it. just an FYI, kits were never loaned out for free, all publishers / 1st party make you pay for them. I have all those famicom pcs in stock all the time boxed and the stack at Retronation would be 850.00 shipped inside the US. AND the twin famicoms would work...

So is the 20k basically 4-5k for the dev kit and the other 15k for Tommy's recognition?

Noone is buying 99% of that collection of video game consoles

The Tommy Tallarico collection, booom!

@midimusicforever

Жыл бұрын

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Why didn't he have WATA auction it as The Tallarico Collection?

Florida just got devastated by Hurricane Ian and we lost a great game store called 8-Bit Hall of Fame.

I’m sure Tommy is raising cash to further invest in the Anico.

Maybe Tommy figures the people who browse that auction site are rich and usually don't care about overpaying for stuff.

@BainesMkII

Жыл бұрын

Rather than not caring about overpaying, it is much more likely targeting people that don't know anything about game prices. He picked an auction house that doesn't deal in video games, and set minimum bids that are 5x the price of the combined items. He only needs to luck his way into a single sucker bidding on a single set to see massive returns.

@lo1bo2

Жыл бұрын

@@BainesMkII Good point. Rich person who sees something interesting and just wants it.

"Once owned by Tommy Tallarico" could have been a multiplier if he hadn't yet tarnished his name down under the frog's ass.

Channel F tends to be worth something. It's Pong but with cartridges. I got one cheap that was "faulty" but it works.

I'll offer 'em like $300 for the pong consoles. I think that's a half decent offer.

@MikeStavola

Жыл бұрын

Oh, that includes shipping.

@XanthinZarda

Жыл бұрын

I'll offer him 200. Unless he includes conversion cables since who the heck owns RF connectable TVs anymore?

You'll get at least one bid from one of his crazy groupees.

the main issue with this is if these do some how sell they will set a value precedent. It will then artificially boost prices else were.

9:35 I would not be too terribly surprised if at least one person out there would place a bid on that pong collection solely for the name of the person who owned it.

Quick! Wata are getting into boxed Consoles. !!

I've found some way overpriced Twin FamiComs on some auction sites going for over 800 usd

Look, the initial bid SEEMS high, but Tommy has to look out for #1. He had to take quite a pay cut now that the Amico is pretty publicly DOA.

All that grading stuff is stupid. Leave that graded game in a hot car for a while. Or in the window of your shop until the color fades out.

@XanthinZarda

Жыл бұрын

Plus, none of this stuff is worth grading. None of it is _anywhere_ near mint. It's been sitting in the open, in uncontrolled environs.

Glad to see you're wear ing it

4:22 Does this fact technically make this a "Scumbag Seller of the Week"? Because if the Amico is of any indication, the person selling the devkit is certainly a scumbag.

Anyone have an update to this story? Did he ever get 20k for the dev kit?

I saw a red twin Famicom at a pawn shop once it came with an extra controller and some games it was being sold for around 300 CAD. Wasn't bad of a price but I couldn't spend that much money at the time

Shout out to youtuber Ninja Kitty who did lots of deep diving on this ++

@azure1259

Жыл бұрын

Nice recommendation, I didn't even know this channel existed, their videos offer some great analysis of the whole Pat and Ian vs Tommy Amico wars.

I wouldn't call this devkit "his". This devkit is in his possession, but it's not his. Devkits like this one are provided to developers basically on a rental basis - the devs would pay a fee and they would keep the devkits for as long as they needed them. But once they were no longer required, they were to be returned. Sony and MS also do this. So this devkit that Tommy has is not his, it remains the property of Nintendo, and should have been returned to them long ago. That's why they are generally not seen very often, it's because they are supposed to be sent back to the console maker.

@lasskinn474

Жыл бұрын

posssession is 99% of ownership, they were supposed to be sent back to the console maker but that's in past tense. there are ways for property to legally become yours/mine/tommys even if nintendo wants it back.

@WhitePointerGaming

Жыл бұрын

@@lasskinn474 Tommy or the studio Tommy was working for at the time would have signed a contract that would have stated it needed to be returned. That's legally binding, regardless of how much time has passed.

@lasskinn474

Жыл бұрын

@@WhitePointerGaming it's actually not as legally binding as you think, also after someone purchases it in good faith depending on state it's legally theirs even if it was straight up stolen and the person who sold it knew it was stolen and/or kept as breach of contract. property is more flexible in ways like that than what you think. tommy didn't probably "steal" it in the legal definition of theft(it was given to him) anyway, he kinda just kept it and nintendo had a contract with a different entity. statue of limitations etc come into play too(nintendo being aware that they don't have the thing back and not trying to get it back, they can't just wait 99 years and then decide that oh yeah we'd like it back now that it has some value)