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@stanb1455

3 ай бұрын

naah

@jakeparkinson8929

3 ай бұрын

Minecraft 1.2.5 is the last version of minecraft without demo mode, you can play minecraft for free without hax by changing the version of minecraft to 1.2.5 . Runs pretty well too.

@musgawp

3 ай бұрын

Not in UK, thanks! I got as far as typing in my phone number and it said US numbers only. Why the hell didn’t;t it tell me that at the beginning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@musgawp

3 ай бұрын

Bought my wife a new MacBook Air. Shall I put Haiku on our 2009mmacbook pro? I worry about downloads but trust you 😊. Why don’t you post the best, safest place to download a Haiku for usb stick?

@asystole_

3 ай бұрын

@@musgawp I don't understand what you mean. "worry about downloads"? Just get it from their official website.

I bought 5 of these to give to some kids to learn Scratch and other programming and use one on my CNC. Anyways, Go into the BIOS and disable the power limits. The CPU is only using 6 watts, Once disabled it uses 12 watts and is nearly twice as fast, According to the CPU benchmarks I ran on it.

@egbront1506

3 ай бұрын

Is the foil heatsink up to the added toastiness that might cause?

@fc3sbob

3 ай бұрын

@@egbront1506 it gets warmer for sure but it can handle it. I ran the CPUID benchmark for a while with no issues. I forget the exact temps it got to.. maybe 80 degrees after a while during the benchmark/CPU stress, but under regular use I don't think there's much difference. It's been a while since I tested this.

@Errcyco

3 ай бұрын

I bet it’s t-junction is like 60*C 😮😅

@fc3sbob

3 ай бұрын

@@Errcyco I believe it is actually! I set it much higher.

@SuperDavidEF

3 ай бұрын

Hoping he sees this comment and tries disabling the power limit.

“Even though it doesn’t look like it, but I like being outside!” **puts a picture of him being outside as a proof**

@SuperDavidEF

3 ай бұрын

Looks 'shopped to me. But who am I to judge?

having a modem for 79 bucks laptop is really nice

@evefavretto

3 ай бұрын

I would expect just the LTE card to cost more than that. Probably a crappy LTE cat 4 one, but still...

@resneptacle

3 ай бұрын

​@@evefavrettoSeems to be supported OOB under Ubuntu, which for a 4G Modem is really not bad and would be worth like 30 bucks for me honestly

@joe--cool

3 ай бұрын

It'd probably be $55 without Windows.

@kreuner11

3 ай бұрын

​@@evefavretto isn't cat stuff ethernet?

@colinstu

3 ай бұрын

@@joe--cool china OEMs aren't payin that much

"And it works...." yeah, we don't have the same notion of what working is.

@halfsourlizard9319

3 ай бұрын

... shenanigans!

@jonathanschober1032

3 ай бұрын

I came here to comment the exact same thing

@michaelwright2986

3 ай бұрын

Everyone who has lived with old cars knows that there are two, quite distinct, status reports. Works, which is distinguished from Everything Works. Mind you, I would also be disappointed to be without trackpad, sound, AND internal WiFi.

@halfsourlizard9319

3 ай бұрын

@@michaelwright2986 It's a feature, not a bug ... Call it 'distraction-free computing' 🤔🤷‍♀️

@awa0927

3 ай бұрын

Haiku is so far behind Linux. I have no idea why this guy doesn’t just install Tinycore Linux on this old machine, would have run much better.

I loved BeOS back in the time, but as long as Haiku doesn't support video acceleration (3d and decoding) there is not much point in using it for daily driving.

@igorperuchi2114

3 ай бұрын

Who needs this?

@Rice7th

3 ай бұрын

Haiku does have video accelleration, but it's only supported on a couple GPUs

@awa0927

3 ай бұрын

How about Haiku getting out of beta form first? 😂😂😂

@paulie-g

3 ай бұрын

There are few applications that need hardware acceleration at smaller resolutions/normal refresh rates, cf QNX, so that's not a big problem. There is nothing Haiku does that couldn't be done on top of Linux with better performance and more hardware support. You could do emulate the user interface in an X11 window manager or a Wayland compositor, BeFS could be done in FUSE to start with and then in kernelspace as it matures, and so on. Fundamentally, Haiku is always going to suffer from the same things as BSD - not enough dev time, therefore forever catching up on hardware compatibility. It *is* impressive how far they've come with so few resources though and some of the porting work is particularly impressive. It's fun, and that's what it is meant to be. Don't overanalyse it. Incidentally, it could probably run with everything working in a VM on a Linux host.

A Core 2 Duo MacBook is faster and cheaper than this laptop, but the fact that a laptop with Windows is cheaper than Windows is impressive.

@tf6437

3 ай бұрын

hmm, idk I think the quad core Celeron is faster than the core 2 duo mobile

@bibasik7

3 ай бұрын

@@tf6437 A Core 2 Duo MacBook can run Minecraft much better, I'll tell ya that!

@bibasik7

3 ай бұрын

@@tf6437 I checked the Geekbench benchmark charts, and the Celeron N3450 beats Core 2 Duos in multi core, but most mobile Core 2 Duos handily beat it in single core performance.

@TheCustomFHD

3 ай бұрын

​@@bibasik7 this has to do with drivers, and bloat of ubuntu. Not to mention, as soon as you use Sodium, its gonna blow it out of the water. Also, the Macbook likely has a GPU, meanwhile this uses the laughable iGPU of the intel cpu. On CPU based tasks, this is gonna blow the macbook away in both efficiency and speed, although to be fair, only barely in speed.

@bibasik7

3 ай бұрын

@@TheCustomFHD According to Geekbench, the Celeron is faster in multi-core performance, but the Core 2 Duo is faster in single core performance. Minecraft has very poor multithreading, so it makes sense that it runs better on the Core 2 Duo. Minecraft is usually CPU-bound unless you add shaders, so GPU isn't an issue.

Onboard speakers work in Ubuntu Mate 23.10 once you run AlsaMixer in terminal to unmute and adjust up levels on inputs. Also M.2 SSD must be SATA, not NVME. I have owned this exact computer for 1.5 years.

@paulie-g

3 ай бұрын

Not unmuting the main channel in alsa is a rookie mistake everyone has made at least once on Linux. Not remembering that this is required is a cluetard move though. Cheers for the info on the M.2 slot. Most people don't realise you never have NVME on an M.2 A+E slot.

@tomaszgasior772

3 ай бұрын

@@paulie-g Interesting. I use Linux for 10 years and I never had to think about alsamixer, using various hardware. Is this really required when all desktop distros use PulseAudio or Pipewire to control audio hardware?

@D0Samp

3 ай бұрын

@@tomaszgasior772 Don't worry, it's mostly just a meme which originated in the fact that ALSA always defaults to bring up sound hardware muted (so something has to unmute and set the appropriate volume levels in userspace, which often was just a small init script calling alsactl before PA/Pipewire came along), while OSS did not and, depending on the sound chip, often set volume TO FULL BLAST.

@paulie-g

3 ай бұрын

@@tomaszgasior772 Take a wild guess as to what PulseAudio uses as an output.. ;)

@tomaszgasior772

3 ай бұрын

@@paulie-g Since PulseAudio is designed for user experience, I don't have to care about that. PulseAudio is intended to be user friendly so it should take care about this for me. And it does, at least in my case.

That might be as little computer as is possible to still call a laptop.

@SJ-co6nk

3 ай бұрын

I'm kinda glad to see netbooks coming back.

@one_step_sideways

3 ай бұрын

Unless you go with a $10 15 year old potatobook that holds charge for 20 minutes

@one_step_sideways

3 ай бұрын

@@SJ-co6nk Are you really?

@SJ-co6nk

3 ай бұрын

@@one_step_sideways I've always thought a low end inexpensive laptop like a netbook has a place in my computing ecosystem. I have a powerful gaming laptop with an RTX video card but it never leaves my desk. I've got a little chromebook with an ARM processor that I use for when I just want to putt around the house or in the back yard. I gave away my acer aspire one back in the day to a friend of ours who needed a laptop and I always regretted it because it was perfect for that sort of thing -- and if I broke it it was 200 bucks so I could just get another one.

@CajunReaper95

3 ай бұрын

@@one_step_sidewaysa lot of people are I’ll be honest I loved my little acer spire one.

SPF - "Seconds per Frame"

@proCaylak

3 ай бұрын

let me tell you a secret: frametime IS the "seconds per frame" people are looking for.

It's also popular in the ham community because we can charge it straight from a 12v source, perfect for field use.

The cheap computers that have been coming out lately remind me of the netbook days.

@halfsourlizard9319

3 ай бұрын

Well, except that the new ones are way bigger. The whole benefit of netbooks was that they were literally or close-to pocket-sized and could run Linux pretty easily.

@bryans8656

3 ай бұрын

@@halfsourlizard9319 The Acer I had was my first computer to get an upgrade to an SSD, which made it truly portable.

@johnmichalek9802

3 ай бұрын

@@halfsourlizard9319 Yep! Still have one running MX Linux for a little Python machine. 😂

@LeftoverBeefcake

3 ай бұрын

This OS might be perfect for old netbooks that are stuck with 32-bit Atom processors and 1 or 2 gigs of RAM. I'm thinking of installing Haiku on my Sony VAIO netbook that runs (horribly) a very old 32 bit version of Linux Mint.

@halfsourlizard9319

3 ай бұрын

@@LeftoverBeefcake Or just run a modern Linux distro (Debian supports 32bit) and skip the GUI and other frivolous bloat ...

If we don't have an Action Retro video without installing some obscure OS to anyone but Action Retro fans, is it REALLY one of his videos?

I think the real shocker is that it has a cellular modem. (I liked this video 99,999 times)

Fun thing to try: Boot Alpine on the thing. Bet it'll run fast as a Ferrari.

@pdoherty926

3 ай бұрын

Is it possible to run i3 on top of Alpine? Presumably, that'd rip.

@halfsourlizard9319

3 ай бұрын

@@pdoherty926 I'd assume so? But a good ol' TTY is even faster!

My store has them open box for $63... this is perfect to keep in a garage for reading service manuals and consuming pirated media.

this is some chromebook like hardware, with less difficult drivers on any os thats not chromeOS

@pinksnowbirdie2938

3 ай бұрын

I tried to make one into a chromebook but the audio drivers and wifi drivers were just non existent

@aarongamingdev

3 ай бұрын

@@pinksnowbirdie2938 this is why you never use chromeOS, linux is far better and less resource intensive, debian with xfce will bring new life into any low end modern netbook

@AcridWhistle

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, that might possibly be the supply chain horrors he is talking about. Maybe repurposed recycled / bulk purchase and new (cheapo) screen, although the specs are still a bit too new to be EOL from Google.

Please keep making videos about Haiku OS.

@NickNembus

3 ай бұрын

I use Arch, but is interesting seeing Haiku OS being used since it's a much smaller community. Appears like a very retro throwback one which is fitting with Action Retro channels name.

@johncate9541

3 ай бұрын

@@NickNembus Haiku is an open-source reimplementation of BeOS, which came out in the 1990s and was once in the running to be the new Mac OS before NeXT beat them to the punch and became Mac OS X. When Be failed, its enthusiasts rebuilt the entire system from the ground up using Be's own API documentation. And that is Haiku. The 32-bit version can even run the original BeOS applications.

Factory fresh e-waste.

@gnulinuxdebian

3 ай бұрын

Ben atık gibi görmüyorum, güzel cihaz kuzen.

@Fhwgads11

3 ай бұрын

How fast is the celeron in this laptop relative to a raspberry pi? Might be worth it for that

@Bc232klm

3 ай бұрын

Used thinkpads are cheaper. You can get a t460 for less than 80

@sluxi

3 ай бұрын

@@Bc232klm still pretty cool to have this with ubuntu preinstalled but yeah buying used saves on future e-waste even if I disagree on this being e-waste.

This thing actually has slightly better specs than the computer I used from high school all the way to third year of university. I used to use a cheap acer chromebook with GalliumOS and it worked beautifully for everything, even with only 2GB of ram. It was just a browsing and doc editing machine, so it hardly needed anything.

Huge thanks Sean for all the effort you put into your videos! Been following the channel for a long time and you really got me to diggin into my Retro Collection again. Planning on doing an Retro PC Un-Sleeper Build on my channel. But enough of me, really can´t wait for the next vid popping up since these are my go-to´s on the weekends whan i have some time off! Sidenote.. love Haiku been using it on-off since the really early days after Be wen´t under...

That's a lot of computer for 80 bucks. I remember buying an HP Stream 11, with half the cores, half the ram and half the storage for more than double! Also this comes with an LTE modem that could be swapped with more storage? What a deal.

By the way almost 100k subs, good job man!!

The Windows Logo Key has the pre-Windows-8 Windows logo on it.

Congrats for 100k subscribers!!! Great content!

Ayyyy! Congrats on 100K! Well deserved!

The Jeep is looking great btw! Need a nice row of Hellas on it now!

100K subs 🎉 great news! Congratulations!

Great video thanks for the tips for installing Haiku!

I've been considering one of these because im nervous taking my real laptop certain places, or even just using it on the couch with my dumb dogs. I will need sound in linux though

Man, you really go all the way. I love these videos.

I didn't know you were a fellow XJ enthusiast! Love your Jeep, and your channel! Was great meeting you back at VCF East!

Congratulations on 100K subs! You deserve it.

I'm new[ish] to the channel and just wanted to say I love what you're doing here and also nice jeep.

Love when my local micro center makes it into a video. Also yellow tortex just are the best picks

$79 plus cost of wifi dongke, plus cost of M.2 drive, plus cost of external mouse, and maybe USB soundcard to get sound. I know, WE all have that stuff hanging around in a bin, but if you're going to tally up the true cost - you have to add that in as well. So now you have other options inthe $120 range.

I love your shenanigans. Haiku isn't quite there yet but it's very promising. Keep up the good work.

These where sold in brazil under a national brand for R$ 1300, which would be 260 USD.

@igorperuchi2114

3 ай бұрын

O que é bem triste...

@sluxi

3 ай бұрын

sucks... I wonder if they're available in europe

@acronym.4328

3 ай бұрын

Yikes.

@apolloeosphoros4345

3 ай бұрын

doesn't BR have some insane computer import tax shit going on? Sad

What an interesting little laptop - I think this is the perfect "emergency PC" to buy if yours break but you need to complete a task or something and can't wait for a repair.

100k congrats 🎉

You have no idea how much I wait for Saturday to see what kind of shenanigans you are up to this week 😊

Congrats on the 100K subs!!!

Absolutely love your XJ!! I have an '03 WJ myself 😎🤙

Road to 100K! You're so close!!

I like that that thing still has the pre-8 Windows logo on the keyboard.

Wait that's not a vintage apple machine...

@MarcosCodas

3 ай бұрын

It’s about as fast

@terabyte100

3 ай бұрын

and so cheap.

@fnjesusfreak

3 ай бұрын

The OS has Apple roots, at least.

Ahoy, thanks for the fun video. I own 2 Maestro Evolve III notebooks. The 1st is this exact model. I got it openbox for $62+change in June 2022. Do watch as this is the V.1.0. Later versions don't have the SATA slot. I also have the Model 11G ($99+tax) which has a Celeron N4120 4 core Gemini Lake w/UHD Graphics 600. It can run Win11 and is much faster but also lalcks the SATA slot. I think the best thing about these notebooks is the battery life; I commonly run them for videos for over 8 hrs. and they still have battery left. Also, for an 11.6" TFT screen the display is quite bright and looks great at 720P. Thanks again and cheers, daveyb PS: I'm an OS/2 guy bu I ran BeOS for about 2 years on my 2nd system back in 2002-2003. I still have all my BeOS stuff in boxes on my bookshelf. db

Its shocking how good your videos have become and haiku is an underrated Operating System that may become more like Linux

Don't forget Emacs and gnuplot!!

I've done alot of this stuff. For the sound and track pad to work, just update the drivers. The update program will find the proper drivers and make it work.

Ah, the wonders of the bargain bin at Microcenter! I'm like a kid in a candy store every time I go to the local one near me.

i do like that it can be overclocked and has upgradable storage

gratz for 100k subs!

Small world, we go to the same "local Micro Center!" Great content as always!

i have an old Dell Inspiron like this and i used a shaved down version of Win10 i made in MXML tools and yeah, i thought about nixxing the wifi/bluetooth but i didnt wanna be down to one USB port after adding a stick, so i instead used the MicroSD card for storage as it is plenty fast for my needs, and can even run older games with ease. these things are great if you need a spare machine running linux or another OS or other hobbyist stuff.

Fellow Pennsylvanian Microcenter haha!? Love the videos man keep up the great content

Maybe see how this thing handles Diet Pi, a light linux distro based on Raspberry Pi OS optimized for running from flash storage

This is a cool exercise. Thank you for doing it and showing us! I'm sort of amused that my ancient HP ProBook 6470B and 6570Bs are apparently quite a bit faster, but as you say this is a new unit.

"hardly any fuss" * *required a lot of fuss :) Love it :)

The CPU in these things were manufactured in 2016, so I think that gives some hints as to how they got the hardware so cheaply. I bet a lot of it is outdated, but still usable tech that someone had piling up in a warehouse. Evolve probably got the components in a bulk purchase for a song. The fact that they also got a new battery, display, and (perhaps the most surprising) windows license on it while keeping the price at $79 is... Insane.

@metatechnologist

3 ай бұрын

Actually this looks like a recycled Chromebook.

Haiku is getting better with time, to get it's spot in the old/low powered range of computers, and there are so many of them! I'm impressed with how it works so well in my venerable Asus EeePc 701. Only the camera didn't work out of the box.

@awa0927

3 ай бұрын

People keep say that but development wise it’s been waay too long. The project started over 20 years ago (from 2001) and it’s still in beta form, ridiculous.

@JorgeMendes75

3 ай бұрын

@@awa0927 As far as I'm not contributing myself, I don't complain about the generous effort that other people are doing at their rhytm. If they had corporate support like Linux had, the story would be different. The recent addition of falkon added to it's practical usability. I hope it gets more traction and more users so it can attract more contributors also. Cheers.

It has a cellular modem? That thing is probably worth more then the computer! I've always wanted to have a laptop with a cellular modem, so that I could work from anywhere*!

Is that your Cherokee XJ in the intro? If so, super clean. edit* Just saw the b-roll of you getting out of it. Very nice.

When replacing the 4G modem card with the SSD, make sure to put some electrical tape on the two antenna connectors so it doesn't make contact with the other components. I have fried a motherboard on an old laptop including sparks and smoke - I've learned my lesson 😅

I really love the color of the laptop!

You could run PiMiga 4 on it which just came out with x86 support. It runs shapeshifter to be a Mac.

Which TP-Link adapter model were you using to get WiFi working? I've tried Haiku on my MBP Mid-2012 & Thinkpad X1 Yoga 3rd Gen, and WiFi doesn't work out of the box on either of those in Haiku. I'd love to get them online!

Neat 😊 Shame the sound and wifi didn't work. I've been looking for a small and cheap laptop or netbook just for Haiku.

haiku is basically a blessing for oldies and generally low end pcs, even compared to some linux distros (cough cough, most)

i've been a fan of BeOS since the 90s i've been lucky enough to be able to try it on my friends' PPC as a child then I installed the official version on my IBM Aptiva probably w 133mhz pentium 1 w a bus overclock.... I also tried Zeta OS ! Zeta was the best experience for the time but Haiku is the best now has come a long way and apparently 1000s of Radio stations run on BeOS or Haiku etc

congrats on 100k subs

It's great to see that all the work put into the Linux kernel does pay off and the laptop worked almost perfectly with it.

@johncate9541

3 ай бұрын

Haiku is not Linux. Not at all. It's BeOS reborn.

these tiny laptops are kind of a champ once you swap out the cellular modem for a ngff sata ssd, during my performance testing it ran elder scrolls 4 consistently well on medium settings, not too shabby!

This is the second video I see of this exact laptop this week and both of them had nonfunctional audio. The last one was still running Windows and it didn't even work under that, not sure what its missing to get that working but it might as well not even have speakers because they don't work

this might get lost in a sea of comments but, ive had this exact laptop for a while now, got it back when it was 90 bucks instead of the sale price of 80, and running AntiX Linux on it, minecraft beta gets a solid 40 or so fps, perfectly playable. i cant speak to having used Haiku, but when i want lightweight, Void linux or AntiX are the best imo, and they both ran really good on this laptops.. constrained hardware. never been able to get sound working though, and the only time i got the internal wifi card to work was on void linux, which somehow recognized it out of the box as opposed to every other distro ive tried on it (which is quite a few, including ubuntu and stock debian 10) The eMMC is KILLER slow, i think i might get one of those "dogfish" ssds for it. great video!

Did you check if there were any BIOS updates before trying to install Haiku? Perhaps there's a newer BIOS that allows Haiku installer to see built-in drive (or fixes trackpad, sound or WiFi)

Nice review, may pick one up just for fun tinkering

I am very sure somebody smarter than you can get the sound working. They just need to write a device driver from scratch, no big deal.

I would definitely not try the overclocking, we have a cheap walmart gateway laptop with the same bios options and I tried messing with the bios options for fun, almost bricked the thing lol since the options were not supported by the hardware

Please, post more shenanigans like this.

love the content!

That’s the same MicroCenter I used to work at.

you can buy some cheap wlan to lan adapter and with lil bit of soldering i think you can get it to work

So, will this do better with hardware compatibility on older pc? I have a 32 bit Acer netbook, will try Haiku on that - even the lightest linux is too slow on it. And Kolibri OS, but maybe hardware compatibility is even worse on that

Is that the St David’s Microcenter? I used to have so much fun there as a kid. Also lol @ “supply chain horrors”

@ActionRetro

3 ай бұрын

oh yes hah

this $80 laptop is great for giving a kid for routine schoolwork and basic youtube watching (guessing that headphones plugged in gives sound). The power of Linux strikes again

omg I demand you tell me where I can get that hamster mouse I love it lol

Is that Jeep Cherokee at 0:01 yours? Also, congrats on your 100k sub milestone!! (Long time viewer, first time commenter)

@TruckCentral

3 ай бұрын

Answered my own question at 0:58 🤦‍♂️ Collab?

It's a good little laptop for the money. Runs a lot of ham radio software really well and runs on 12 volts.

Being able to overclock on a laptop bios is pretty rare, at least, in my experience. Out of all of the semi recent laptops I have and old laptops I've had none of them allowed me to overclock😭

Its a pretty cool little laptop. I've got a video on my channel about fixing the audio and using it for a bunch of ham radio related things. Hard to beat for the price/included "kit" and performance!

I use to fix these.... Haiku is definitely an upgrade without a doubt over windows. Since some of these barely have the specs to run windows....on paper.

I literally just bought one of these a month or two ago, for a lightweight ham radio laptop. Slow as heck, but it doesn't need to be fast, and it's hard to beat the price.

@asystole_

3 ай бұрын

wsjt-x will run on just about anything :)

Haiku OS always brings me so much joy

Congratulations on getting a different sponsor than the usual gang! I don't think I even hate this one!

yep cant complain for that price, i got the same one as a 69$ openbox discount but it had not been used yet, through Arch on it with the Falkon browser. It still chugs on loading pages but once loaded it is fine. im guessing its the eMMC storage being slow on writes (have not tweaked it to get better performance, like using a ramdisk) So now i got a $70 backup laptop for travel when i dont want to take my $1,000 laptop

@ActionRetro Is the RAM soldered on the board? I think the performance issues are due to it only having 4Gigs of ram. Up that puppy to 8 or more and it would be an amazing little machine.

I don't know if this would apply to Haiku or not, but in Ubuntu, sometimes on a fresh install you have to enable sound manually using the alsamixer command in the terminal. It's a bit obnoxious, but it usually works.

Haiku is great but no Video drivers is really sad. Anyway I love it also ❤

Some people have luck installing the open sound driver off haikudepot.