The most real / unbiased review I have seen so far... thank you for the indoor and outdoor examples... I love my X3, and while I was disappointed that they didn't upgrade the sensor AT ALL (even a 1/1.3 like in my tiny Mini 4 Pro) but I do absolutely see a nice increase in resolution. Thank you for the review!

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

Glad to help! Thanks for watching.

Great review, I liked that you did not label the videos so you would have to make your own decision totally based upon the videos. Since I was updating from a X1, I bought both the X3 & X4 cameras to do my own comparison and ended up returning the X3 and keeping the X4. A couple of things you did not mention was the X4 camera is significantly faster in operation/processing and 360 photos in my option are superior to the X3. Less noise, appear sharper, better color, and on camera processing for Pureshot and stitching (if you want ready to go pictures without external processing). I know most people will focus on videos, but I plan to use it for both and wanted to add my observations on still photos.

@Utoober-yp7mf

Ай бұрын

It's just right that you get the X4 if you're upgrading from the original one X. I on the other upgraded from one x to X3 and will be my last 360 cam. Video quality is my thing and 360 cams just can't beat other action cams like gopro, dji. I was even thinking of getting the invisible dive case but the video quality is just not there.

great work! thank you for your insight -- also great bambi shot !

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

Thank you - glad you enjoyed it.

Finally, A real review. Thank you.

Thanks for your honest review. I bought the X4 and hoped that the quality would be much better than the X3. It's NOT better at all. Not video, not photo - you can still not zoom at all. Same sensor - same noise. I'm sending it back. All the other reviews are just by people who got it for free.

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing

Thank you so much for your work and great review!

@gwebster65

14 күн бұрын

My pleasure! Thanks for watching.

Thanks for the great review!

@gwebster65

25 күн бұрын

My pleasure! Thanks for watching.

BRILLIANT REVIEW thankyou . have had x1, x2, rs... have ordered x4. and subscribed.

Great review, thank you! One question: In one of your previous videos, you had an issue with the DJI Mic 2 and the X3, with the receiver cold shoe showing in the clips. Wondering if this is still an issue with the X4?

@videolan

Ай бұрын

I wondered the same as the X4 is slightly thicker than the X3

Great review! I didn't know the sensor was the same as the X3.

@gwebster65

19 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching!

That review absolutely convinced me of the right decision to go with the X4 as my first Insta360 cam after ~ 4 years as a faithful GoPro Max user. I know the Max is way outdated and I was mildly tempted to switch to the X3, but the X4 really won me over. The resolution difference you showed is night and day! Easy to tell the difference immediately. And the bigger battery makes perfect sense to handle the power draw of 8k. Every decision that goes into a 360cam design is a trade off. FWIW I still think the Max is a bit more robust than the X4 and GoPro has always maintained a great subscription service to replace a Max that I pushed too far. That said, I’m excited to get to work with my X4.

@gwebster65

15 күн бұрын

Thanks for the great feedback. Enjoy your new X4.

true reviews like this dent require chapters as they will be detailed & suspense thrillers :D... love from India

Thanks for the great review, i currently own the one x2 and am considering upgrading to the x4.

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

Glad I could help

I appreciate your review, my X3 flew into the rive from my bag while jet skiing so considering the X4.

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

Sorry to hear that. Thanks for watching.

Great review very factual and unbiased 💯

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed

Is there any way you could maybe upload some raw 8k 360video files and photos? It's amazingly hard finding them for the X3 let alone just released X4. Really appreciate the honest review, keep it up!

Loving my X4

So I'm assuming that when you take the X4 360 footage into Insta360 Studio, you can still only reframe and export a (slightly cleaner) native 1080p video? Or can you export a native 4K video? Changing the export settings to 4K on the X3 always seemed to give poor results. Hoping 8K 360 provides a reasonable 4K video image once it's framed. Yay or Nay?

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

I have generally only exported in 4K, for the X3 and X4.

If i relember correctly x2 had h265, x3 did not, so x4 brought h265 back ? What is the maximum bitrate in h265 8k ? Only 8 bit color ?

A review how it should be. Very good work. Thanks! 👍

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Honest review👏 X3❤

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching.

Great review! One question: how many GB for 1min of 8K? Gonna get this camera for my long motorcycle travels and need to know what external SSD to get! Thank you!

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

I am currently working on another video about this, but initial testing shows about 1.6GB per minute of 8K/30

@shogun9x1

Ай бұрын

some reviews said 1gb for one minute if shooting in h256

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

My tests show 1.6 GB. See my latest video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZqdrmbSMo5jVfbg.html

@builderphill1361

Ай бұрын

​@@shogun9x1I saw a post where an employee said about 1GB a minute but there could be 2-3 in total from cacheing?(I don't remember the exact words)

I like the A, B blind tests

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

Glad you liked it.

Excellent review! I have the X3 and I won't upgrade to the X4, I'll wait for an updated Insta360 ONE RS 1-Inch 360 instead (hopefully later this year...)

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

If it wasn’t for my channel, I don’t think I would have purchased the X4 either. Pretty disappointed.

Interesting. But a key question is, what did you have the X4 sharpening set to? Elsewhere it has been shown that setting it to 'low' loses significant amounts of detail. And with its 2.7k typical reframed output in this 4k world, it needs all the help it can get.

@gwebster65

27 күн бұрын

Good points. Both cameras were set to the low sharpness setting for these tests.

has the 360 spherical photo quality improved much?

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

I will try to get round to doing some still photo comparisons. Thanks for watching.

I just bought the insta360 One RS 1” a few weeks ago… what should I do? 😅 is this an upgrade?

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

Hmmm, tough one. Unfortunately I don’t have any personal experience with the RS. I would guess that the newer tech in the X4 will give it similar quality to the RS, but the RS should be better in low light. Also, the RS is quite large and not weather/waterproof. Hope that helps.

@info379

Ай бұрын

Rs for photo, x4 for video.

Great comparison. I own the x3 since 13 months and will not upgrade. I was even wrong with your indoor blind test. Ok, outdoor was clear, but still ok for me. Next update will be the X5... should be in approx 12 months😅 It would be great if you could proof your guess with the disadvantage of X4 and weight/size on an 3m selfie stick.

@gwebster65

15 күн бұрын

Thanks - may have to do that 3m selfie stick test!

thanks, great comparison! :) Exactly what I was looking for. I really do prefer the way better image quality and gonna sell my x3 for x4.

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Great video. You need to be more carefull of the audio quality... very annoying loud hiss and high frequency pitch on this one...

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

Got it. Thanks for the feedback.

The X4 looks better for sure but still the leaves and fine details seem muddy to me and even worse on the edges. Thanks for this video!

@scrollop

Ай бұрын

I agree - before he zoomed in on the deer I thought the X3 was the better.

Is it only me or it seems that in the center of the lenses x3 has sharper view but closer to the edges i can see more detail already in x4. I think i'll keep both cameras and will film on both and then will decide wich is better and when. not a significant upgrade to me, but still, quality of life on x4 are enough to buy it.

very good un-biased review. I was looking forward to 1" sensor, and the accessories are not backward compatible. and for night mode, with still the 1/2" sensor, not much improvement from X3. my opinions to getting X4 - new 360 users, X1/X2 upgraders. - upgrade from X3 if want to get higher frame rate for good and sharp image and night capability. - get 1" One RS (but it overheats very fast, and not waterproof) - or get AcePro for that night mode.

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

Good input - thanks for watching.

Great work, but here is some advices to get better results: 1st: There's a high-pitched whistle at the start of your video, at the end of the intro, and another at the end of "what gets worse", kind of ultrasound... Not good to hear. 2nd: You forgot some points, about what does not change: the resolution output, the all 360 resolution is maybe 8K, but the output resolution is still 2.7k, 4k is only for single lens mod, and that, no one seems to point it out... 8k Is for the all 360 sphere, 4k for each lens... Exactly the same as the X2 and the X3...

What makes me upgrade fro x3 to x4 the screw on lens protector. The constant fear of scratch the lens on this cameras made me just not using enough.

@shogun9x1

Ай бұрын

well if that is the only thing that you can buy those lens protectors from insta for your x3 but with stickers, less convenient I know but save you 500$

I think there is another enhancement regarding the me mode resolution, from 1080 to 4k. That is quite significant

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

Good point - thanks.

Thanks for a good review 👍 As an owner of X1, X2 and X3 I am pretty sure that I am going to purchase this one also. One confirm to my decision came from you review, especially when I saw your surprise guests, particularly in the zoomed section in 17:00. Wow, the difference in image quality compared to X3 is bigger than I expected! So even if the physical sensor size is the same with those cameras, they have definitely made some big improvements there besides just the resolution. Yes the sensor size could have been upped a little but I myself would have not want "1 inch" sensors to this thing, it would have been made to camera way too big. This size increase now I can understand and it is ok. Of course if I look that old X1 now it is soo small and nicely rounded shape without all of that weather sealing, have to love it. Removable lens guards & bigger battery in X4 are also a big plus. And many other small improvements also. Btw did you mention that there is no more that 30 minute file limitation, again a big thumbs up for me about the X4, that has always been a big no to me with those long 17 second gaps. In a nutshell, yes there are some things that could have been updated even more, for example USB-C could have supported audio straight away but even as a current X3 owner I think that this new cam is really worth consideration, of course also depending what type of shoothing you will use it for.

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

Great input - thanks

Audio quality on X4 is much better. I could tell which is which just by listening to your voice.

I have the X3, maybe it's my fault, or it's due to the youtube compression, of course there is a difference, but I can't see that much of a difference that's worth the extra money for the X4... 🤔🤔🤔

@gwebster65

20 күн бұрын

Perhaps you were streaming in a lower resolution, but there is definitely a difference. Check out this comparison to the RS 1-inch, particularly the Timelapse test: kzread.info/dash/bejne/l3agsclpqrCwh9Y.html

One more down side to the X4 to add is insta360’s removal of the Apple Watch as a means to control and send GPS data to the X4 in favour of their new preview remove.

@gwebster65

13 күн бұрын

Did not know that - thanks for sharing.

Im considering the x4. Also because it would be my first attempt in using a 360 camera. I see a lot of pro’s when shooting in 5.6- and 8K because I will most likely crop a lot. I would use it as a second travel camera and get the easy selfie shots with it. I also like the pocket 3 but I’m not that familiar with the specs. I mostly use a mirrorless and a gopro for my travel vids and I’m comfortable with that except the gopro (7) needs an upgrade because I no longer want to use the gopro gimbal. A 360 camera seems very manageable for my wife so I could have her film a bit more as well with the 360 cam. 😃

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

I shoot most of my videos with a DJI Pocket 3. It shoots incredible 4K video - far better quality than you will get from a 360 camera. That said, a 360 camera is perfect for when you don't want to worry about where to point your camera - you capture everything in all directions, and can select your view(s) later on in processing. Obviously, that means you have to put in more work to process, but it can be really worth it to get a perspective that you otherwise may not have captured (or even been able to capture).

@creativepicnl

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the reply. You pointed out both strong points with both cameras. Unfortunately the point and shoot is where the difficulty lies in a way for my wife. She’s not the traveler type that likes to film. The 360 camera takes away that difficulty and focus for her. I’d probably prefer the 1 inch sensor but I can easily compensate by shooting more with my mirrorless. There’s a lot to think over since the pocket 3 is a lot smaller than my current (outdated) GoPro setup which is another pro. Oof..choices..😅

As "cool" as the x4 might seem. Still sticking to the same sensor size was a deal breaker for me. Yes theres more pixels now but noise will still be bad during low light scenes. Ill just wait for the more expensive but larger sensor 1 inch version with 8k.

Danke, gutes Video! Habe meine gestern bekommen und bin doch sehr ernüchtert. Wie man auch bei deinen Aufnahmen sieht, entspricht die Bildqualität leider nicht dem, was "8K" suggeriert. Schon beim schauen auf dem Ipad finde ich die Qualität grenzwertig. Aber auf meinem 77" Zoll Oled sieht der Content wirklich extrem schlecht aus. Wirkt wie das Bild einer 20 Euro webcam.

@gwebster65

14 күн бұрын

Nicht vergessen, 8K gilt fuer die ganze 360º Aufnahme. Nach "reframing" hat man meistens zw. 1080P und 2.7K.

It was a panic release GoPro have their new 360 coming September or their about. So insta wanted to get in first and relinquish folks of funds beforehand. Being someone who would use it for bike riding I’m always sceptical on the waterproofing as in the uk you’ll be riding along in nice sunny weather then the next it will be raining 😂. No one ever seems to shot footage in cloudy rainy days and lets be honest not everyday your out is great weather

@gwebster65

11 күн бұрын

Interesting points. As far as the waterproofing is concerned, I have taken my X3 (and before that my X2) underwater and never had an issue.

You mention GoPro, but.... with GoPro, I do feel they don't 'gain' much with every new model... so... With action camera's, there is not much to gain anyway.... the formfactor makes it impossible to use bigger sensors, and... with 4K or 8K, processing it, you always get a lot of heat. I stopped using 5.4K on my GoPro/Insta camera's, since... in a studio, you run the risk of overheating, and even on 4K , it's getting bloody hot. I do agree that the price raise is stupid... but that also was the case with GoPro for a while. What I find bit weird is that this X is 'seen' and also 'compared' as a 'normal' actioncamera, but... it's a 360 camera! So, bit weird to compare it and say that the quality is less then a gopro (you are not saying that, but I noticed some yt'ers telling that). They seem to forget that 360 camera's use 180 degree lenses, which are always softer at the edges. It's weird that almost nobody reviews it for where it initial was designed for: in a VR headset. Most use it now for a 'camera with all angles' but, most then 'think' it's a normal camera, but that isn't the case.

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

Great input - thanks.

So you want a sensor that's already available in the RS and are complaining about a longer lasting battery that certainly was need to support the processing necessary for 8k.265. seems like you didn't like this camera before you bought it.

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

Yes, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect an innovative company like Insta360 to migrate technology that they already have 2 years experience with to their "consumer" action camera series. Also, I fully understand why they had to change the battery (I even said as much) but it's still frustrating to those of us who have invested quite a bit of cash (the batteries are $45 each!) in the "old stuff". I actually do like the X4, but after 18 months wait, it could have (should have?) been so much more.

Nice review! I found one more downgrade in X4. Right now don't have a webcam mode. Probably they add this in the future bo right now X3 have but X4 not.

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

Good to know - thanks for sharing.

5.7k 60fps makes it a much better camera than the X3, and it has nothing to do with slow motion. 60 fps is a minimum for any camera or subject movement.

Is it me or does the tree branch above your head at 15.58 on Camera A look clearer and more detailed whereas the same branch on Camera B looks blurry and distorted ?? Also the facial hairs on Camera B make your face look somewhat weird as opposed to camera A where your facial skin looks clean ?? Pause the video at 15.58 and you'll see what I mean (I'm watching in 4K on my smart tv)

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

You are correct. There's no question that 8K on the X4 gives better detail.

@brianmagicman3556

Ай бұрын

@gwebster65 So camera A was the X4 ?? Immediately afterwards (when zooming in on the deer shot) he said the X4 was Camera B (which I think looked worse when he was doing the mic test and walking test) ?? Camera B was the X4 then yes ?? If so, I thought it looked worse during the walking shot at 15.50

and the livestreaming / webcam ability not bein gthere is the worst!

The video quality comparison needs to show a more realistic scenario ie. Action. A talking head is wildly easier to compress than say, skateboarding.

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

It’s a good point, but I think my skateboarding days are way behind me!

Best review I've seen so far. I am sticking with my X3, couldn't tell much difference in video quality until you zoomed in. Totally disappointed they kept same sensor, seems to me its all software upgrade (AI upscale/noise removal) and not much else. I wish you also did a still photo comparison, I'm assuming there would not be much difference.

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

I will try to get round to doing some still photo comparisons. Thanks for the feedback and for watching.

TimeToLiveTimeToLiveTimeToLiveTimeToLiveTimeToLiveTimeToLive .... OHHHH Tech Travel Leisure!! Got it.

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

the inspiration was actually “through the lense”

The video quality is still so grainy and blurry compared to DJU Action 4 and pocket 3....

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

That’s to be expected because you are cropping in quite a lot when reframing, plus both the Action 4 and Pocket 3 have larger sensors.

@samer820

Ай бұрын

@@gwebster65 but if you are using single lens without any reframing, is the image quality better and sharper?

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

I doubt it (but good idea for another test!). I think the main purpose of the single lens mode is so the X4 can do “double duty” as a basic action camera also.

Here in Sweden the X4 is 200 dollars MORE than what you pay in the USA. Here it costs 700 dollars.

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

Wow! That’s very expensive for a “consumer” camera.

@niclaslinden5960

Ай бұрын

@@gwebster65 Yes, it is unfortunately insane.

@ilovebohol

Ай бұрын

Im thinking of buying from US and ship it to the Philippines, but the import fee would end up costing 720 total… if bought from a local retailer, its 560usd here.

There’s humming in your background

so 8k over 360 degrees. if you use a portion of the video, you are probably looking at 2.5k

@gwebster65

26 күн бұрын

Correct.

Fix the audio noise

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

Working on it. Still need to figure out the cause.

The guy complaining about features talking through a potato mic is kinda funny 😂

@sanjaymrzn

Ай бұрын

May be you are commenting from a potato phone

ne minute recording over 1GB after edit it 100MB you cant let in your computer UN edit it there you need huge har disc your computer never gonna edit quick with insta360 software because cant use all your prosesor capacite 30 minutes 8K recording shuting down because of heating so not use summer... one lens schrach camera is useless unless you send them insta360 to hongkong x4 220 dollars x3 120 dollar cost a repair your garantie is useless for this you know why they send them with lensguard because you need it

Seriously, if you compare the video quality with photo or video from a traditional camera in the same price range, the X4 is one of the most unnatural I've seen in terms of colours etc, and at vivid it goes completely wrong, pastel Disney look, it's not possible to get anything resembling reality out of this camera, the X4 is actually worse than the X3 in my opinion, the X4 is like a glittering bad commercial, is it all that AI? You show a clip with a deer and say the X4 is more natural, you can't be serious, it's redseosfull 8K or not.

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

For me, the colors in standard mode are actually quite true-to-life. Plus, you can always use the standard or flat color profile.

Not totally unbiased since you've been an Insta360 camera fanboy for awhile now

a real review where @insta360 wont even comment

@gwebster65

Ай бұрын

Glad you liked it - thanks for watching.