Inside Orania, 30 years into democracy
Despite the existence of the controversy-laden Northern Cape town flying in the face of the founding values of the new South Africa, Orania's leaders say their self-sustaining population continues to grow. Eyewitness News visited the area to find out more.
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I wish the rest of South Africa can learn from Orania Because they are doing it without the government
@adrianwillis66
23 күн бұрын
Doing what? South Africa has become a multicultural city but once again racism. Once again the same group.
@joycenthoba8541
21 күн бұрын
So there's no government services in Orania?
@StoepZulu
20 күн бұрын
@@joycenthoba8541 Yes NONE nothing
@user-ol2yh6ob6j
20 күн бұрын
They are their own government.
@globalinsightuk
15 күн бұрын
@@joycenthoba8541 No government services whatsoever. They build and maintain their own roads, water, power, sanitation, refuse collection. They’ve even created their own bank, power generation company, civic institutions, schools, technical college, medical centre. All with their own money and labour. They’re the only municipality which receives no government funding and yet the residents still pay tax to the national government.
South African is easy to define. It's a person from South Africa. I am a proud South African.
You are doing just great on your own,they must leave you alone,keep up doing good for yourself ❤
I dont believe that cultures religions and races must mix Treasure your culture ! Well done Orania ! You have achieved tremendous success without a cent of this clown government!
@famousmwofficial8046
20 күн бұрын
Shouldn't orania leave?
@Karl3Lang
19 күн бұрын
If that's what they believe or you believe then what do they want in Africa?????
@mp5284
2 күн бұрын
@@Karl3Lang Dude learn your history, the afrikaners were literally there long before the current majority african population. The native people of South Africa are called the Koi San people, the current majority population came later, a mix of the pre existing Bantu expansion and later importation from further north in Africa by the British empire.
Very very good
The truth did pop up even under the force of ANC, EFF & BEE-kak. Viva Orania for setting the pace in South Africa. The truth is powerful 💪
Where everything works 😂😂😂😂😂
Keep it this way it works!!
What are all the kings with land in south africa doing for their followers ? Nothing ! Nkonyana trust for Zulus ? And all the others !
As black South African i understand you and i support you viva Orania 🇿🇦
@user-ll4mj8rl9i
21 күн бұрын
Really
@igame6823
21 күн бұрын
You understand nothing sit down
@sircamelot-420
21 күн бұрын
@@igame6823people with your mindset are a part of the problem. If a black South African is giving you support, why be nasty?
@melikhayambali6264
19 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 krrr haa aha 🤣 ooopsie I didn't mean to 🤣🤣🤣
@maine-kw6wfy
14 күн бұрын
@@igame6823They are willing to give you their “ blueprints” and help your people create something similar. But you won’t/ can’t. Never have! ( Can only leech and destroy.)
Keep it that way. Ek is trots op julle oraniers, hou dit so
@mjkluyyqakysaqqvvyar2028
26 күн бұрын
amen
How about we do it for all town's and run our own towns with all people
@TheOpenSociety777
5 күн бұрын
Some towns would succeed, most would turn tribal
ʼn Pragtige plek,sonder misdaad . Almal werk hard om die plek netjies en skoon te hou! Het heerlik daar gaan vakansie hou,langs die Oranjerivier!🌹🌹🌹🌹❤❤❤
@juvitapereira6230
22 күн бұрын
Stellen dieven, maar binnenkort is het klaar met jullie in heel afrika.
@user-xn9tt4tw1s
21 күн бұрын
Mxm 😏
The place is beautiful ❤
The people of Orania have every right to live peacefully.God Bless you Orania.👍👍
Best place in the world
Republiek van Oranje. Communities naturally cluster in groups. Integration can cause the destruction of heritage. I don't see anything wrong with Oranje in principle. People are free to do what they want as long as no harm is done.
💪💪💪💪💪💪Orania ❤❤❤❤❤
It's looks very interesting and peaceful place weldone Orania
Not "white only", "Afrikaner Only"
@Spillers72
6 күн бұрын
Right, I'm white but not Afrikaner so they would not take me.
@Antloo2009
6 күн бұрын
@@Spillers72 Exactly
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Good job keep the good work
Ons Afrikaners kan dinge reg doen .
Why is the media so obsessed with this place??? There are less people staying there than your average newly-built Balwin lifestyle centre among many in any SA city and it has less infrastructure than one. This is ridiculous empty hype.
@Tshepo10111
25 күн бұрын
True, But media is not obsessed, Only content creators.
@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
24 күн бұрын
Happens everytime elections draw close.
@ivanbasson982
19 күн бұрын
Happy that other communities can learn from Orania... pse create more content....
The creator of Orania was aware of what would happen in 2020. To preserve his culture, he created Orania.
One day it will be history
@jenskriek4280
21 күн бұрын
No, one day they'll look back on centuries of prosperity!
@craigclifton7254
19 күн бұрын
Orania is only prospering while South Africa is burning.they bought that land that nobody wanted and made something of it. You wouldn't want to stay there too much hard work
@dineothwane8394
18 күн бұрын
You will be history
@shoorakhamis3904
21 сағат бұрын
One day it will make history.and they wiil all realize what a great place it is .
Considering that this is EWN, this article has been surprisingly unbiased. There are one or two non-verbal queues in the video that subtly suggests that they do not like what Orania is doing, but I expected a lot worse.
@pokawolf24
21 күн бұрын
Read the article about this on EWN website. fully loaded with the usual bias.
Good Town. I wanna live there
If I may ask Bruce, Are the Kings in South Africa really in control of their affairs or they are just like during the apartheid where they were being controlled by the apartheid government as to how they should run their Spaces. Did they have money to run or the apartheid government gave them the minimum to run their affairs? Those kings had nothing everything belonged to the apartheid government, Truth be told. UNLIKE ORANGE, THESE Afrikaners Folks run their affairs without anybody telling them what to do. They work hard, Yes, which is commendable. Who gave them money for start up? We have to Tell truths here. They had money some accumulated a lot of money during the apartheid rule. What do these kings have? Handouts. The truth is South Africa is a very complicated Country for sure. We pray too that One Day God will remove THESE SHACKLES Around our FEET as South Africans especially black majority,So that we become like ORANGE. You are very much BLESSED Orange Folks. More good LIFE For You All There.✌️🇿🇦
Eventually the government of SA will say, "OK, that's enough, it's over" -- and over Orania will be, in one or two days.
South Africa was a Republic way before 30 years ago.
My boss has a house in Orania
Price of fuel is dictated by South Africa, the Oranian currency is dependent on ZAR strength, imports come through SA ports, when SA had lockdown it also applied to Orania, no recognised Police Force, no recognised Judiciary…so it is independent only in name!! When you actually are self sufficient, come and talk. For now you are a prodigal son that keeps coming home to eat.
@JSepa
20 күн бұрын
That is why they clearly say "they are building towards freedom" its an idea still in progress
*Ya Nhe!*
And how "democracy" work for SA? Everything is falling apart.
Which country is this?
@ivanbasson982
19 күн бұрын
Orania, go Google
@dyawr
4 күн бұрын
South Africa
the mind senior / she boggles
my mense
Iranian is doing fine. Preserving their economy, moral and discipline. Forget apartheid. That song of apartheid has expired. Don't allow the government to touch your city. They will destroy it and steal the money. Protect your children future. In fact each province for itself, viva💪
Wait, was there no Suthu occupying this land before it was sold to the Afrikaans people back in 1991 by the National Party? And that was before the elimination of Apartheid too. And If so, what If someday, the original occupants of that land decide to come back to their land, what then happens?
@darkgalaxy5548
Күн бұрын
Being in the middle of the karoo, very likely nobody laid claim to the land before the expansion of the Dutch settlers. The Sotho's historical territories never included the Karoo. South Africa has pretty much completed it's land restitution process under the Land Restitution Act of 1994.
Dam well said
The surname le cornu is VERY FRENCH
@kobusswanepoel523
5 күн бұрын
True... the Afrikaner came from Europe.
Ek het sopas iets vandag geleer. Ek het nooit geweet Orania is in die Karoo.
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There are millions of pairs of eyes IN THE BUSH over the river, eyeing Orania.s destruction, YOUJUSTWAITANDSEE
@FaizelMoosa-og3yl
19 күн бұрын
Sounds like you would like that.
400 years?......
@siyashilla6885
9 күн бұрын
Since 1652
@siyashilla6885
9 күн бұрын
372 years
Thumbs up for Joost!!!!!!!
THIS PEOPLE HAVE STRONG SUPPORT OF OTHER COUNTRIES.
@craigclifton7254
19 күн бұрын
Which countries?
Idk what to say, feels a bit weird, even though I'm happy it's prosperous. Are there other towns like this in SA, like only for the Zulu or any other group? It's a bit strange if it stands out as the only one...
Are we free of separateness? given that all our social systems and personal ideology or our social conduct, is by some measure fundamentally based on identification and association. My answe is no, were not free of it. When we observe societies, we are able to glean that separatism appears inherent in all societies. Moreover it is our selective reasoning that ultimately negates or strengthens it depending on the order we subscribe to. Undeniably the intrinsic nature of separatism, when threatened, it results in extrinsic contempt - as we experience here and now. Dissenters often express disgust against separatism by relying on their apposing views that are predicated on by ethical standards. Paradoxically this justification fails to observe that it too is an act of exclusion even when such resistance is democratically justified to achieve 'a' version of freedom. Evolving from stifling circumstances such as immorality, political injustices or religious dogma, that seemingly contradicts 'a' version freedom proved imperative throughout history. Exclusion validates a measure of moral subscription. Supporting any ideology that defines an "acceptable conduct" or 'a' version of freedom requires exclusion. Historically it was inclusion that failed because people continued to live unadjusted and as a result, war and perpetual rebellion ensued. The barriers between apposing ethical forces is the contention dividing the 'for' or 'against' supporters - two versions of freedom. Separatism can be found between two harmonious societies - it's still separatism and we are by some ideology 'guilty' of it. There are no societies free of separatism and this is equally true for individuals. Everything we do, from social appearances, to actions or moral subscription are essentially clusters of beliefs - separatism. Therein lies paradox. Since history does report social conduct, it is easy to predict that separatism will perpetuate and therefore compromise overall freedom because it recognises different versions of freedom. Since freedom is subjective, it will remain in contempt.
This SHOULD be an EMBARRASSMENT to South Africa.
@l.m90
20 күн бұрын
What's embarrassing is how disgusting town is and all the squatters.
@gunitkjkp470
19 күн бұрын
Crime rate is zero!
@ivanbasson982
19 күн бұрын
What, the fact that Orania is a CLEAN town ??
@FizzyPumpkin47
17 күн бұрын
Why?
These journalists are hyper focused on the race question. Can you be a Zulu of European Descent? Can you be a Xhosa of Zulu descent?
@darkgalaxy5548
21 күн бұрын
Unless you're Johnnie Kleg, no.
The Mormons are accepted in the USA ! Why cant Orania be accepted in SA ??
@HerculesMhlongo
19 күн бұрын
The USA is hardly the beacon of standards you are purporting it to be -that we are to measure South Africa up against.
@nevillem.l.oliphant7328
19 күн бұрын
@@HerculesMhlongoWhich standards pray tell would apply to sub Saharan Africa countries?
@vebrainlight
19 күн бұрын
That's an establishment based on religion.. not race. Mormons are white in a white country.
@HerculesMhlongo
19 күн бұрын
@@nevillem.l.oliphant7328 I did not advance nor present a county or region that we can, and should, measure ourselves up against. All you are doing is trying to corner me into swapping out the USA with Sub-Saharan Africa. No. I was pointing out the remission in the analogy of the comment -that because the Mormons are accepted in American society then Orania should be deemed acceptable in the South African dispensation. If we feel that Orania is unacceptable in the South African context then that’s that. Just because America is doing it doesn’t mean we have to.
ANC has 116 race LAWS
CHRIST JESUS: Jesus Christ is Lord.
Im quite lost what does the word Afrikaner mean.....or mybe im just dumb lol
@latoyarakubu6905
18 күн бұрын
White lol 😂
@globalinsightuk
15 күн бұрын
Afrikaners are Afrikaans speaking South Africans descended from the original Dutch, French, German etc settlers of the Cape. They’re about 60% of white South Africans but there are still hundreds of thousands who aren’t, mainly English speaking descendants of British settlers who came later.
@darkgalaxy5548
Күн бұрын
@@latoyarakubu6905 Wrong!
You don't see Israel occupation of palastain on this orania one day?
@nevillem.l.oliphant7328
19 күн бұрын
Definitely True.....! Why? Because the ethnic group you hail from has ABSOLUTELY Z E R O capacity to build, create and add value to ANYTHING! Remember June/July 2021 KZN and Gauteng!
I will never ever visit orania again, I'm white, I speak Afrikaans as for it's my mother tongue, I married a Norwegian girl, went to orania, nice at first speaking Afrikaans, I turned around translating to my wife what I've said, as for I respect my wife, not long after I translated the bloke told me eks n landsveraaier, n veraaier van jou eie taal, just because I'm married to a Norwegian girl?
@claypotts2334
19 күн бұрын
You will find people there who don't have that belief. The same way you will find racists in the rest of South Africa. Don't blame Orania, blame the individual.
What is the difference between the Mormons in the USA and the Whites in Orania in SA
@kobusswanepoel523
5 күн бұрын
Everything
Very poor this town.
As a white man pretending to be black, I support them, so viva Orania!
Whuz doing labour jobs there
@NatasjaHarrison
15 күн бұрын
The people staying there do everything themselves.
What the used of a government other thank isolating us from one another
What do you say male a they are in your backyard kuno akati pasi. Navo
Orania is in no way an apartheid town for the simple fact there arent any non whites who alface legal second class citizenship. The video is just trying to lie
The irony of this place. I mean, the Netherlands still exist
They can go to Europe
@jenskriek4280
21 күн бұрын
Orania is their home, they're going nowhere. They're growing and prospering!
@tchamola7572
21 күн бұрын
There is a question mark on the land in future the government will take back the land
@jenskriek4280
21 күн бұрын
@@tchamola7572 No they won't. Orania is here to stay forever, like it or not.
@tchamola7572
21 күн бұрын
Let's the time come we are ready for everything to take back our land
@andriesbritz6061
21 күн бұрын
@@tchamola7572🤡
And he said they not racists
@latoyarakubu6905
18 күн бұрын
Hilarious 😂
Can somebody pls educate me, who are the maids & gardiners in orania? Is it white people?
@dn822
21 күн бұрын
Same as in my house. Myself and my wife
@Robin-su4fn
21 күн бұрын
They do all their work themselves
@jabusikhakhane1465
21 күн бұрын
@@dn822 owk, I hear you...
Yes it was created for cultural purposes indeed, which is non other than apartheid and racism for such is are the main elements in Caucasian culture
@dyawr
4 күн бұрын
Caucasian culture, means the culture of the peoples in the Caucasus mountain region... countries like Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan & Southwest Russia. Who would be very offended by this statement, especially since they never participated in Western European colonization...
Why everyone brings in race ,so immature,this is an Afrikaner town.leave them alone they're successful and doing well. I know white Afrikaners that have not got in, it's a plain as that. Let them live in their own success. If you have a problem then start your own place with your own culture.
@HerculesMhlongo
19 күн бұрын
🤦🏽♂️ Policy 101. Just because something may not be promulgated as a racist policy does not necessarily mean that it’s not racist. When you study policy you are taught that some policies appear to not have anything to do with race, gender, sexual orientation, etc on their face (Prima Facie) but all the trappings, assessments, effects, employs, wherewithal, etc point to the policy only favouring or prejudicing certain peoples. So, no, it’s not immature that the race question keeps popping up…it is because people have correctly discerned what Orania is actually about -particularly after the surface is scratched.
@ReformedVicar
19 күн бұрын
@@HerculesMhlongo very succinctly put, the point is the more we drum on about it the longer the problem will last, it's time every South African puts the past in the past and focusses on what can be and not was,even though the despicable things that transpired in the past have an influence on the current,the fact is that the more focus on that in all ways brings that into the forefront and gives it more credence ,I'm not saying play that the past doesn't exist,but to focus on giving less credence to what is evil and more to what is right in our country, my personal feeling is whatever their conviction is they're there far from anywhere, as our Khoi brothers are further west , it's like the typical political agenda pointing out others so your own faults aren't seen. I like the way you make your point respect to you,and thank you for the though provoking answer.
@HerculesMhlongo
19 күн бұрын
@@ReformedVicar I want to first say, from the first sentence I read in your reply I felt a tone of understanding and genuine interaction (exchange of ideas). Now I completely understand what it is that you were saying in the principal comment. I find myself somewhat agreeing with you; if we leave them to live in their own utopia that they righteously ~or unrighteously~ have created for themselves and we instead focus our energies on building a broader South Africa that has dealt with the undertones that were prevalent in the past then we may have an actual hope to have a thriving society…yes. I also want to acknowledge the point you made about some Afrikaners that have not gotten in, but I would like to extend your point to “most Afrikaners have no intention of being ‘citizens’ of Orania for whatever reasons. This points to priorities, beliefs, cultural practices and maybe even pure freedom of security (Job, Family, Social, etc…). I guess we are just traumatized and Orania triggers PTSD.😂
@ReformedVicar
19 күн бұрын
@@HerculesMhlongo very well put. Bless you my brother and thank you
I never knew you have people supporting this : go where yur from with it. Ramaphosa this is apartheid starting up again please to stop it b 4 it goes any further.
@Hannodb1961
22 күн бұрын
You've got your head screwed on wrong. It is the ANC that is promoting Apartheid with their Bee laws. Orania is the natural reaction to it. If you want Orania to go away, stop voting vor r@cist and socialist parties that is destroying this country.
@peace6325
22 күн бұрын
People supporting their own culture. What a sick world we live in.
@christianKing101
21 күн бұрын
Mxm you are jealous because your EFF and ANC are too useless, and they are destroying everything they touch.
@janrdoh
21 күн бұрын
They are harming no one, leave them alone instead of being a racist.
@bethuelmakhwenkwe8210
21 күн бұрын
It has long agi mushroomed becoz they keep themselfs busy training with guns while we busy boozing aĺ weekend
Orania se gat
But oeinia is insouth afrika get the land and share these are racists big time malema weathered hemust dismantle this nonsense 😂❤😂😂🎉😢
@l.m90
20 күн бұрын
Chest pains take panados.
I'll be the first black to reside in orania thanks for accepting me
@darkgalaxy5548
Күн бұрын
I'm sure you'll find your new neighbours charming.
Why can’t Coloureds join? When they speak the same language as Afrikaners.
@maureenjackson2041
20 күн бұрын
Because they're closed minded look how the Afrikaners treated coloureds during apartheid.
@temporarymonk4022
19 күн бұрын
Because it's about the CULTURE. What is hard for you to understand?? The entire video was about that. Just because you speak a language, doesn't mean the culture is the same.
@trollingizlife2298
19 күн бұрын
@@temporarymonk4022 It’s close enough to speak the same language and have similar bloodlines.
@temporarymonk4022
19 күн бұрын
@@trollingizlife2298 Dude. No way you think couloreds have Afrikaner culture.
@trollingizlife2298
19 күн бұрын
@@temporarymonk4022 They eat the same foods as you. After all, it’s your culture that fathered them.
400yrs keep on robbing as but oneday is oneday
@orajoubert1242
22 күн бұрын
Yipp and sommer give back the combustion engine the formely tarred roads the piped water the flushing toilets the boeing the cell phone and all over coveted aspiration gadgets
@jenskriek4280
21 күн бұрын
What are they robbing? They're CREATING!
@andriesbritz6061
21 күн бұрын
Robbing what exactly and with wat proof
@darkgalaxy5548
21 күн бұрын
Would you rather they moved in next door to you?
@l.m90
20 күн бұрын
😂😂 The chest pains.
Julius Malema if you win Orania town must fall it should not be allow to excite in Africa
@l.m90
20 күн бұрын
😂😂 Sorry neh chest pains take panados
@zzzz-oi9go
20 күн бұрын
Bra thats a dessert even if juju takes it it's worth nithing even my village in KZN is better because the land is fertile we have WiFi and the cellphone signal is good we have malls hospitals and the beach to swim and have sea food
One day is one day we will take back that place oriana yamasimba
@darkgalaxy5548
21 күн бұрын
Why would you want it? It's a worthless track of land in the desert, leave them to it.
@awakenedsystems
Күн бұрын
And you'll turn it into thriving oasis of peace and prosperity like the rest of South Africa?
I hate orania
@l.m90
20 күн бұрын
Chest pains take panados